Wll there be a Golf GTI wagon????

[Tigger]

So, in line with Skoda's RS wagon, what are the thoughts re VW designing a GTI wagon?

Now that Ford have the Focus ST Wagon (sadly not for Aust according to the latest Wheels mag), it would seem a suitable choice...

I chose the Octavia RS for the load carrying features, as well asd the "sportyness", so I reckon there are many who would like a GTI in a wagon...

Thoughts?

[team_v]

I don't think there would be a need considering the Skoda vRS fills this niche market well.

[illusnz]

But the skoda resale value isn't all that great.

[Jake02]

But the Skoda resale value isn't all that great.

Not that that is really that relevant, but to be honest I don't think VW nor Skoda really care that much about resale value, nor their customers (especially in Australia). A lack of a Golf GTI wagon is probably the only example where VW isn't shooting Skoda in the foot. That the Golf GTI (let alone a wagon version) is more expensive than the bigger and better equipped RS is probably even more reason why they don't do a wagon.

[alebonau]

not sure on gti wagon, but they used to have a R wagon that was pretty popular. if they had one now again I reckon would sell quite a few !

[JustCruisn]

The GTI is the original hot hatch, not hot wagon. It is a classic proven formula with cult following. Why would VW want to risk it with a wagon? They may make a hot wagon but I doubt it would carry a GTI badge. I think an R wagon may be more likely.

[Deadpool]

They'll most likely stick with the Golf Wagon if we even get it. Those things are rarer than Viper Green Scirocco R's.

[LunchboxVRS]

The GTI is the original hot hatch, not hot wagon. It is a classic proven formula with cult following. Why would VW want to risk it with a wagon? They may make a hot wagon but I doubt it would carry a GTI badge. I think an R wagon may be more likely.

If there going to do a cabriolet gti then why not a wagon. Just from that they have already gone away from it just being a hot hatch People want more versatility in there car while still being the brand/spec they like. Even supercar manufactures are heading this way. Most
Make a four door. And the ferrari FF Is designed to take lots of luggage and be drivable in all conditions.
I would buy one over the skoda even if it was $5k more for the simple fact it would be all golf not half one car at Front. And a different car at the rear. Until the new one comes out which knowing them will be the same anyway.

[AdamD]

not sure on gti wagon, but they used to have a R wagon that was pretty popular. if they had one now again I reckon would sell quite a few !

There's never been an R wagon. The closest there's ever been was a VR6 in the Mk4, but that didn't really have sporting pretensions.

In fact since the Mk4 they've never even fitted a 2.0 petrol engine to a Golf wagon. Clearly they haven't seen a need for it thus far.

[Bflat]

There's never been an R wagon. The closest there's ever been was a VR6 in the Mk4, but that didn't really have sporting pretensions.

In fact since the Mk4 they've never even fitted a 2.0 petrol engine to a Golf wagon. Clearly they haven't seen a need for it thus far.

Probably a reference to the R36 Passat.

[AdamD]

Probably a reference to the R36 Passat.

Good point. The R36 is in an entirely different market segment to the Golf wagon though. But they are awesome. :cool:

[Tigger]

not sure on gti wagon, but they used to have a R wagon that was pretty popular. if they had one now again I reckon would sell quite a few !

really??...a golf R wagon?
did I miss that one?

[LunchboxVRS]

Read the post above and track back tigger he ment the passat R36.

[phaeton]

2007 RaVe 270 Concept

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/11/vwgolfrave2701big-1.jpg
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Volkswagen Golf RaVe 270 Concept : News & Reports : Motoring : Web Wombat (http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/volkswagen-golf-rave-270-concept.htm)

[Deadpool]

I've always hated the Thunder Bunny kit. It looked terrible before (barring the .:R GTI Customised one) and still does on that.

[jessv3]

The Golf Wagon looks a little too Hyundai i30 for me..

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[Captain Courteous]

The GTI is the original hot hatch, not hot wagon. It is a classic proven formula with cult following. Why would VW want to risk it with a wagon? They may make a hot wagon but I doubt it would carry a GTI badge.

I agree.. If they want to do so such a wagon badge it as a 'Sportline'..

[GippsCC]

Golf GTI in wagon body? Just thinking about it makes my brain hurt :facepalm: lol

[Tigger]

Golf GTI in wagon body? Just thinking about it makes my brain hurt :facepalm: lol

Why??

There is a hot Skoda RS Octavia version, so why not a VW Golf GTI version???

[JustCruisn]

Remember the "Un Pimp the Auto" campaign VW ran at the release of the MK5 GTI? I guess VW they felt the need for a Factory Pimp option.
The raVe could be a nice car if they get rid of the subwoofers and massive screens.

[GippsCC]

Why??

There is a hot Skoda RS Octavia version, so why not a VW Golf GTI version???

R-line perfectly logical, but R-line and GTI are two *very* different things. Taking it just slightly further - does a "GTI" Multivan sound a good idea. GTI and wagon - One of these things ain't like the other one.

[stormshark]

Would be happy with a GTI wagon choice, VRS looks good but Skodas backup just to risky for non city dwellers

[brad]

But the skoda resale value isn't all that great.
no worse than VW. better than Audi

[brad]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/11/vwgolfrave2702big-1.jpg
Jeebuzz. That hair looks like my missus in 1987!!! WTF?

[AdamD]

No GTI, but the wagon has been spied:

2014 Volkswagen Golf VII Estate spied testing [video] (http://www.worldcarfans.com/112121851804/2014-volkswagen-golf-vii-estate-spied-testing-video)

[zoomda]

No GTI, but the wagon has been spied:

2014 Volkswagen Golf VII Estate spied testing [video] (http://www.worldcarfans.com/112121851804/2014-volkswagen-golf-vii-estate-spied-testing-video)

My local dealer claims they have dropped the wagon from the local lineup. I hope they are wrong as I like my 118TSI wagon and would probably look at a VII if it was available.

[Tobes_WIR35]

If I was after a wagon I'd prefer a passat 4motion V6 wagon. 220kW, 0-100kmh in like 5.6 seconds or something. Similar money to a fully optioned Golf GTI.

[AdamD]

If I was after a wagon I'd prefer a passat 4motion V6 wagon. 220kW, 0-100kmh in like 5.6 seconds or something. Similar money to a fully optioned Golf GTI.

Big difference in price between a current GTI DSG and a Passat V6 4Motion. I like the Passat too, but it's currently over $16,000 more expensive than a 4-door GTI DSG (going by RRP), and there's no way a Golf wagon would carry anything like that premium.

This question has an easy answer: Skoda Octavia RS wagon. It's cheaper than a 4-door GTI (like for like transmission), and is better equipped too. Great car. There's likely to be excellent runout prices on them too, now that the new Octavia has been revealed in Europe.

[Tobes_WIR35]

The V6 passat 4motion wagons are advertised on Carsales (new) for between $55k - $60k. A fully optioned golf GTI dsg would go for around $55k. If there was a GTI wagon I'd assume it'd carry a small premium over the hatch which would place it in that price bracket.

[AdamD]

The V6 passat 4motion wagons are advertised on Carsales (new) for between $55k - $60k. A fully optioned golf GTI dsg would go for around $55k. If there was a GTI wagon I'd assume it'd carry a small premium over the hatch which would place it in that price bracket.

Only if optioned to wazoo. Presumably you could also option up a Passat wagon to the tune of $15k+ if you wanted. Either way, they're substantially different sized and priced cars that compete in different markets.

[Tobes_WIR35]

Yes agreed, but I'm only talking about my own personal preferences here.

All I'm saying is a Passat Highline V6 has comparable spec level, price and performance as a fully optioned up GTI. Both options appeal to me.

The Skoda Octavia RS wagon doesn't do it for me unfortunately, but yes it is a good car and good value.

[AdamD]

All I'm saying is a Passat Highline V6 has comparable spec level, price and performance as a fully optioned up GTI. Both options appeal to me.

Yes, me too. If I was in the market for a stealthy performance wagon I'd definitely look at a Passat V6 (and the Skoda too).

[brad]

Yes, me too. If I was in the market for a stealthy performance wagon I'd definitely look at a Passat V6 (and the Skoda too).

Passat is 220kw? Skoda still stuck at 191kw?

[Tobes_WIR35]

I think the Skoda is 147kW

[AdamD]

I think the Skoda is 147kW

Yep. And it's not all about power... if it were, we'd all be driving V8 Commodores. *shudders*

[Lemonskin]

Agree that it would be too close in price to a Passat wagon. I do with the Passat looked a little meaner though. Great sleeper I guess.

Has anyone on here got a Golf wagon and done it up to look/go like a GTI?

[brad]

I think the Skoda is 147kW The 2L turbo probably is but I was talking about the comparable V6s in the Passat/Superb. Passat got a power boost with the new model.

[tigger73]

How about something like this?

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/tig-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/tig2-1.jpg

Just dump a 155TSI Tig and you're done.

[Lemonskin]

How about something like this?

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/tig-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/tig2-1.jpg

Just dump a 155TSI Tig and you're done.

:o yikes that looks awesome! Is that yours? Didn't know the Tig would drop so low

[tigger73]

:o yikes that looks awesome! Is that yours? Didn't know the Tig would drop so low

Nah - I've still got stock springs (and no bags). I may look at dropping it a bit but my wife doesn't like station wagons, however SUV's are apparently OK :confused:?

This ones from over on VWVortex: VWVortex.com - Tiguan (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5560419-Tiguan)

[Tobes_WIR35]

The Tig looks pretty wild, but I don't think I'd ever buy an SUV for the purposes of lowering it. I'd either buy an SUV to take off-road, or buy a sedan/wagon/hatch. Even though it's lowered, the actual body itself is still quite tall, which doesn't look in proportion, and the handling characteristics would be all kinds of messed up...

I would consider a Tiguan 155TSI that's dressed up to look like a smaller R50 Touareg though. That would be a neat vehicle.

[Lemonskin]

The Tig looks pretty wild, but I don't think I'd ever buy an SUV for the purposes of lowering it. I'd either buy an SUV to take off-road, or buy a sedan/wagon/hatch. Even though it's lowered, the actual body itself is still quite tall, which doesn't look in proportion, and the handling characteristics would be all kinds of messed up...

I would consider a Tiguan 155TSI that's dressed up to look like a smaller R50 Touareg though. That would be a neat vehicle.

It does look a little upright. My first thought was " it looks like a Chrysler PT Cruiser" :P

[Tobes_WIR35]

" it looks like a Chrysler PT Cruiser" :P

:eek:It's not that bad!!! Lol

[tigger73]

OK so maybe if you Golf boys don't like the bagged Tig then perhaps you would like this Jetta wagon if they brought it out in a 147 or maybe a GTD...

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/004__scaled_600-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/010__scaled_600-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/009__scaled_600-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/008__scaled_600-1.jpg

[Lemonskin]

I like that better ;)

They should axe the Golf wagon and go with a Jetta wagon. Makes more sense IMO...

[brad]

I like that better ;)

They should axe the Golf wagon and go with a Jetta wagon. Makes more sense IMO...
maybe I'm missing something.

A jetta is just a Golf with a boot isn't it? Therefore Jetta wagon = Gold Wagon? Or are they two different models lines?

[tigger73]

maybe I'm missing something.

A jetta is just a Golf with a boot isn't it? Therefore Jetta wagon = Gold Wagon? Or are they two different models lines?

Yes you're right they both come off the same platform. Though there's a bit more overhang each end on a Jetta than a Golf.

Here's the list of all the models build off the A5 (Golf5/6) platform from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_A_platform):

Audi A3 Mk2 (8P)
Audi TT Mk2 (8J)[1]
Volkswagen Touran (1T)
Volkswagen Caddy (2K)
SEAT Altea (5P)
Volkswagen Golf Mk5 / GTI / R32 / Rabbit Mk5 (1K)
Škoda Octavia Mk2 (1Z)
Volkswagen Golf Plus (5M)
SEAT Toledo Mk3 (5P)
Volkswagen Jetta Mk5 (1K)
SEAT León Mk2 (1P)
Volkswagen Eos (1F)
Volkswagen Tiguan (5N)
Volkswagen Scirocco (13)
Volkswagen Golf Mk6 (5K)
Škoda Yeti (5L)
Audi Q3 (8U)
Volkswagen Jetta Mk6 (1K), (16)
Volkswagen Beetle (16)

In other words there's lots of Golf derivatives around the place in slightly different guises.

Actually as far a station wagon goes I think the Jetta is a much better option as most people buy a station wagon for the luggage space.

[pologti18t]

The Jetta Sportswagon (USA) is the same as the Golf Wagon we get. Mixture of MK5 and MK6 styling elements.

This is the new Golf Wagon

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/028A000005622262photoscoopvolkswagengolf-1.jpg

[Lemonskin]

I'm sure the new Golf wagon will look good, kinda like a mini-Passat.

I was never a huge fan of the mk6 wagon.

[Lemonskin]

OK so maybe if you Golf boys don't like the bagged Tig then perhaps you would like this Jetta wagon if they brought it out in a 147 or maybe a GTD...

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/004__scaled_600-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/010__scaled_600-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/009__scaled_600-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/01/008__scaled_600-1.jpg

That actually looks sick! Nice