T5 Auto 128kw problems?

[95vr6]

I currently have T5 6sp manual 128kw and looking at buying a new T5 with the 6sp tiptronic, just want to know if there are any problems as well average fuel consumption, thanks.

[phaeton]

Welcome to VWwA 95vr6 j:

According to the VW Multivan Spec brochure combined cycle is 8.9L per 100km.

[BobD]

I have a new 2007 Multivan 128kw 6 speed auto that I have had for a couple of months. I have been a bit disappointed with the fuel consumption which has been around 11.1l/100km. In the same type of driving I was getting less than 8l/100km in my T4 diesel 5 speed manual van.

One of the reasons it uses more fuel, especially around town, is because of the particulate filter I think, but the climate control and all the electronic gizmos don't help either.

The power and the transmission is fantastic but you pay for it at the bowser.

[phaeton]

Welcome to VWwA BobD j:

[BobD]

Thanks Ben.

I only found the site recently but I had a 1978 combi for many years and then a 2003 T4 that I traded on a new Multivan a month or two ago, so I am no stranger to VW vans.

The Multivan is certainly the best of my many cars by far but also the most expensive by far! I love driving it in any type of driving from country trips to city commuting but my wife is the main driver because my daily transport is 2006 BMW K1200GT motor bike.

[phaeton]

Cool, its great to have a member that has a history with VWs humble van :D

[95vr6]

With my 6sp man i am getting 8.6-9L/100k using DP tuning module. All up it weighs 2490kg,

[BobD]

With my 6sp man i am getting 8.6-9L/100k using DP tuning module. All up it weighs 2490kg,

What is a DP tuning module?

I assume you are not talking about a Multivan with that consumption as they only come in manual with 4 motion. What model is it?

Bob

[95vr6]

It is a double door swb transporter, DP module comes from Berrima Diesel. It improves power and torque from 128kw-400nm to 155kw-455nm.

[BobD]

It is a double door swb transporter, DP module comes from Berrima Diesel. It improves power and torque from 128kw-400nm to 155kw-455nm.

Does yours have the particulate filter like mine has? I would rather it didn't as it seems to increase fuel consumption and the manual also says you can't use bio diesel.

[shogun2]

My 6 speed manual 4-Motion TDI gets around 10.5 l/100 Km's around town. This appears to go down significantly on highway driving. Recently did Adelaide/Alice Springs return, and got around 8.5 l/100 Kms.
2005 Multivan Highline, 128 Kw 4-Motion with DieselPower chip.:cool:

[Tornado T5]

I have a new 2007 Multivan 128kw 6 speed auto that I have had for a couple of months. I have been a bit disappointed with the fuel consumption which has been around 11.1l/100km. In the same type of driving I was getting less than 8l/100km in my T4 diesel 5 speed manual van.

One of the reasons it uses more fuel, especially around town, is because of the particulate filter I think, but the climate control and all the electronic gizmos don't help either.

The power and the transmission is fantastic but you pay for it at the bowser.Don't forget a T5 weighs upto 300kg more then a T4.

[Tornado T5]

I currently have T5 6sp manual 128kw and looking at buying a new T5 with the 6sp tiptronic, just want to know if there are any problems as well average fuel consumption, thanks.I've only done 4500Km since 10 July in my T5 LWB van having come from a '97 T4 manual and simply put I love the T5. I have the trip computer option which has 2 trip meters in one. The 2nd needs to be manually reset (1st one can reset by itself and I have to check the parameters for doing this) and it's showing an average of 9.8L/100km over 3500km. In this period I've actually done some heavy load work, eg 300km with 1000kg in the rear and towing 1200kg. It didn't even notice it. The gearbox itself is brilliant, in full auto mode it downshifts when slowing down providing some engine braking and is very smooth on the upshift while the tip-tronic manual mode is fun. At 100km/hr it sits on a little over 1900rpm in sixth not sure about how that compares to a manual T5. I guess the simple point I could make would be given a second buying decision what would I do...order another one as is without a thought. The manual will naturally be more economical however is CBD/suburban stop-start I thought the auto would be more relaxed and I wanted a more "cruisy" ride this time.. I fold the armrests down, turn up the mp3 radio, settle back and forget I'm driving a "van"..its that satisfying.

[shogun2]

Hey Tornado,
The manual sits about the same as the auto. I'm doing about 2000 rpm at 110 kph.

[Tornado T5]

Hey Tornado,
The manual sits about the same as the auto. I'm doing about 2000 rpm at 110 kph.Luckily that's a bit different to my old T4 5sp that sat at about 3000rpm/100km/hr.

[BobD]

Luckily that's a bit different to my old T4 5sp that sat at about 3000rpm/100km/hr.

My 2003 T4 TDI 5 speed was around 2400 or 2600 at 100 if I remember correctly. I think the 2.5 petrol was doing 3000 at 100 when I test drove one.

The TDI didn't seem to rev too much and was perfectly geared for any sort of driving. I tow a caravan and the T4 was great, getting around 13l/100km towing at 100kph or a bit higher, even with my 6 adult to teenager kids on board. Most hills could be taken in fourth at over 80kph without much effort.

I haven't yet towed the caravan with the Multivan but it pulled a very heavily loaded trailor up Lesmurdie hill on Welshpool road (a long steep hill for those outside WA) at over 120kph so it is no slouch. I am looking forward to towing with it, although I will have to be careful not to put the foot down too much to keep the fuel consumption reasonable, I think.

[95vr6]

Hey Tornado T5, did you order the trip meter, if so how much. I am looking at a new T5 auto in a month or so. I have noticed the speedo is 5km out. 115 indicated is 110 on my gps at 2100rpm.

[Tornado T5]

Hey Tornado T5, did you order the trip meter, if so how much. I am looking at a new T5 auto in a month or so. I have noticed the speedo is 5km out. 115 indicated is 110 on my gps at 2100rpm.
Looking at the Burwin VW price list dated 11/1/2007 the multi-function trip comp was $325 and really worth it. I especially like the way you move through the different features using 2 small buttons on the end of right stalk and have 2 seperate trip meters plus the normal "standard" trip odometer in the dash. Only thing better would be steering wheel mounted controls imo. I reset the dash trip odometer every new tank of fuel, trip meter "2" is left untouched for long term values and trip meter "1" I reset occassionally or it resets itself on start-up in the morning (still haven't read the manual fully).

[95vr6]

was it a dealer fit or factory? Any other options you have.

[Tornado T5]

was it a dealer fit or factory? Any other options you have.Factory order..and as for options well you did ask.....

Factory order:
colour-coded bumpers (smooth finish)
esp
height adjust seat, lumbar, armrest - driver's seat
front side & curtain airbags
multi-function trip computer
miyato 16" alloy wheels
park distance control - rear only
wooden floor - factory fitted
fog lamps - front integrated
wing doors
3 rear fixed windows - factory fitted
1 sliding c/right front window - factory fit
Dealer fit:
h/duty rear springs - local fit
window tint - ambulance shade - local fit

Veh-Quip fitted options:
cargo barrier - dual position
air-cond screen
front protection loop bar
velour wall lining
rear -h/d hitch 2500kg & protect bar & step & wiring box
vq bucket seats x 2 units
quick release option 1 x pair
engineer's report
rubber mat
carpet wheel arches......

I know I'm very lucky.....but I thought I can't fit 3 cars at home so my "van" will be the second car......next wash i'll post pics in the photo's thread.

[95vr6]

Must have cost you a fair bit, dealer must be happy.

[Tornado T5]

Must have cost you a fair bit, dealer must be happy.I managed to get it for around $58K drive away after trading in the T4....dealer was happy and so was I... and the Veh quip seats are quick release, individual buckets with their own frame mounted seat belts & child seat anchor points so on the weekends it's a very big wagon...

ps. should add the full retail price of the total options list was $16K on top of base LWB/2.5L/auto price..

[Multiboarder]

I have a 95 t5 multivan tdi auto with 90000klms. I have averaged 8.4l/100 since new.. On trips i can get as low as 7.3l/100.
AC costs around 0.5l/100 in my experience.
I can't understand how your economy can be so bad unless in traffic jam.
Towing a large fiberglass boat I get about 11l/100ks
The AS rating of 8.9 is very good indication of expected economy with mixed city and country.
Regards bert.

[Tornado T5]

I've only done 4500Km since 10 July in my T5 LWB van having come from a '97 T4 manual and simply put I love the T5. I have the trip computer option which has 2 trip meters in one. The 2nd needs to be manually reset (1st one can reset by itself and I have to check the parameters for doing this) and it's showing an average of 9.8L/100km over 3500km. In this period I've actually done some heavy load work, eg 300km with 1000kg in the rear and towing 1200kg. It didn't even notice it. The gearbox itself is brilliant, in full auto mode it downshifts when slowing down providing some engine braking and is very smooth on the upshift while the tip-tronic manual mode is fun. At 100km/hr it sits on a little over 1900rpm in sixth not sure about how that compares to a manual T5. I guess the simple point I could make would be given a second buying decision what would I do...order another one as is without a thought. The manual will naturally be more economical however is CBD/suburban stop-start I thought the auto would be more relaxed and I wanted a more "cruisy" ride this time.. I fold the armrests down, turn up the mp3 radio, settle back and forget I'm driving a "van"..its that satisfying.
I need to correct my own post, @100km/hr my T5 sits at just over 1800rpm and not 1900 as I first thought and the avg fuel use is 9.7km/100km @38km/hr avg speed.

[BobD]

I have a 95 t5 multivan tdi auto with 90000klms. I have averaged 8.4l/100 since new.. On trips i can get as low as 7.3l/100.
AC costs around 0.5l/100 in my experience.
I can't understand how your economy can be so bad unless in traffic jam.
Towing a large fiberglass boat I get about 11l/100ks
The AS rating of 8.9 is very good indication of expected economy with mixed city and country.
Regards bert.

I assume you mean 2005 Multivan as the T5's didn't come out until late 2004.

I was expecting 8.9l/100km at worst as I was getting great fuel economy from the T4 TDI. My computer tells me it is getting about 10.9 but the fuel pump is telling me over 11, consistently since I got it. Most of the driving is around town but it doesn't seem to change much on the couple of long runs I have done.

As I said my Multivan has the diesel particulate filter, climate control, all the electronic gizmos under the sun and other strange things in the engine bay that I have never seen before. Does yours have the particulate filter, Bert? I notice that the specs in the manual show significantly higher fuel consumption with a particulate filter versus without.

Anyone else getting similar fuel consumption to me in the 128kW auto Multivan?

[Multiboarder]

Yes Bobd your right my 128kw multivan is a 2005 model. And mine has all the electronic gizmos like your which make little difference to economy except for the climate control. All autralian multi's were the same spec. We don't use climate control unless in summer. Can't understand why you would use it otherwise. I also have a friend with a 3 month old multivan reporting the same economy as mine. The AS rating is easily achievable and a very conservative indication of economy.
An observation worth mentioning is when the vehicle is cold the economy is bad. If a large percentage of your trip is prior to the engine reaching temperature then that would impact severly on your economy. Also keep your foot light on the gas until the engine is at full temperature as you would be surprised how bad this can impact economy.
Maybe take it out on teh open road and test with warm engine to see if something is really wrong.

Regards Bert

[Tornado T5]

An observation worth mentioning is when the vehicle is cold the economy is bad. If a large percentage of your trip is prior to the engine reaching temperature then that would impact severly on your economy. Also keep your foot light on the gas until the engine is at full temperature as you would be surprised how bad this can impact economy.
Maybe take it out on teh open road and test with warm engine to see if something is really wrong.

Regards BertYou raise a point that I only realised about 2 weeks into new ownership, I drive a lot further after an overnight stay/cold start before the engine is fully warmed compared to my previous T4 dual fuel van......it takes alot longer before full warm up.