R32 Wheel Fitment

[macri32r]

Hey guys I'm looking at putting a set of BMW X5 Yspoke rims on my mk4 r32. I realise it's going to be a big job however I was wondering if I will be able to fit 20x10.5 under the rear? And 20x9.5 on the front? Has any one done this before?
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[noone]

R32 is a 5 x 100?

What PCD and Offset are these rims? Are you planing to use adaptors?

[leighaus]

I love these wheels.. if theres a will, there's a way. awesome idea. they also look evil as in satin black

[macri32r]

I can't seem to find the offset but I'm positive the stud pattern is 5x100 so I'll have to go with billet spacers/adapters

[macri32r]

Sorry I meant 5x120

[macri32r]

I love these wheels.. if theres a will, there's a way. awesome idea. they also look evil as in satin black

You read my mind! Satin black

[curtis715]

Pretty sure the offset for those are +45 front +40 rear.

[macri32r]

Ahh that could raise some issues as I was thinking of putting four fronts on my car as they are only 9.5 as opposed to the rears which are 10.5. There for it would be impossible to get adapters that will not exceed 7mm

[waxgti]

if you are getting rid of your aristos id be interested ;)

[macri32r]

Haha sorry mate might want to swap it back to original some day! But if I flog em I'll pm you

[Manaz]

You're going to have a real bitch of a job getting these on.

And you need (unless you want to kill your Haldex diff) to ensure that front and rear rolling diameters are identical - not something I think you'll manage with the fitments you've mentioned.

20" wheels will also need licquorice strap tyres in order to stay anywhere close to the stock rolling diameter (stock tyres are 225/40R18, if you're adding another 2" to the wheels, that means you need to drop 2.5" from the sidewalls - so you'll end up with 6.5cm sidewalls as opposed to the stock 9cm ones - that's significant (and the tyres, assuming you can even get them, will be stupid expensive, even in **** brands).

[kapowww]

You're going to have a real bitch of a job getting these on.

And you need (unless you want to kill your Haldex diff) to ensure that front and rear rolling diameters are identical - not something I think you'll manage with the fitments you've mentioned.

I agree with it being a bitch to get those wheels on but disagree with the Haldex needing identical rolling diameters. There's a built in tolerance with the Haldex up to a certain variance (4% IIRC). I ran 1.35% difference with no problems.

The only way I see these wheels fitting is if they can be redrilled which you probably wouldn't want to/should do anyway.

In the official Mk4 wheel thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f14/vww-official-mkiv-wheel-q-76233-2.html) gringo_54_oval has 20s on his 4mo Bora for an idea although not as fat.

[Manaz]

There's a built in tolerance with the Haldex up to a certain variance (4% IIRC). I ran 1.35% difference with no problems.

I had 225/45R17 tyres on the rear and 235/45R17s on the front (very close to your own variance) and the rear diff was very much upset...

[Manaz]

9.5" width will also potentially foul suspension and/or cause steering grief, for what it's worth.

[kapowww]

I had 225/45R17 tyres on the rear and 235/45R17s on the front (very close to your own variance) and the rear diff was very much upset...

Maybe it was just a bit of bad luck! Many people have run staggered without any dramas, although my new setup will be 8.5" all around mainly so I can rotate tyres.

[macri32r]

Well there is always the option of machining the hub in order to get some adapter/spacers behind it.

[Manaz]

Well there is always the option of machining the hub in order to get some adapter/spacers behind it.

Which would actually move wheels closer to suspension...

[macri32r]

By machining the rim I will be able to get spacers as you you know it's hard to get 7mm adapters/spacers by machining the rim I could get at least 15 to 20 mm spacers

[team_v]

By machining the rim I will be able to get spacers as you you know it's hard to get 7mm adapters/spacers by machining the rim I could get at least 15 to 20 mm spacers

If you are going to all that effort why not just buy a good set of wheels that will fit in the first place?

[macri32r]

Why not? It's never been done before. If this isn't do able I have already quoted up a set of rotiform blq's

[leighaus]

dont let a challenge stop you. will look amazing and be one of a kind if you can pull it off. ignore nay-sayers until its dead in the water

[Manaz]

Why not? It's never been done before. If this isn't do able I have already quoted up a set of rotiform blq's

There's often (not always, I grant, and not necessarily this time) a reason why nobody's done something before...

[macri32r]

Haha fair enough mate but it won't hurt to try. If my calculations don't even out I'll give it a miss!

[trickysimon]

Would need 15mm adapters all round. (10mm would be more ideal on the rear, although I believe 15mm is the minimum.)
Going to poke a fair bit, so your height and rear camber will determine if you can pull it off or not.
Will need crazy stretch tyres (225/30/20 on front, 235/30/20 rear)
Would be awesome if you pulled it off though.

Could you please post these sort of questions here in the future:
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f14/vww-official-mkiv-wheel-q-76233.html

[dylan8]

good luck...
the above comments pretty much sum it up.
20s are often hard to pull off.
20x10.5s wont work without worked guards or lame suspension height.
wheels are 5x120, so will need adapters.

if you are asking the question and are new to the fitment game your trying something big, so id start else where

[macri32r]

Had five years in experience as a tyre fitter I know fitment just trying to get some ideas and specs.

[YellowDieselGolf]

Why not? It's never been done before. If this isn't do able I have already quoted up a set of rotiform blq's

not exactly, but near enough. . . .

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/5940076129_b1e73cc125_o-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2012/09/5686041627_4927e3b294_b-1.jpg

I love your proposed wheels, but the best part about them is that the rears are concave. However, you'll lose the effect if you run 4 fronts. It seems a bit pointless.

In addition, you'll have legal/engineering/insurance issues to overcome.

[Golf4Mikey]

Those 2 examples are on 19s I believe.

Http://vimeo.com/m/39567894

Video of a test fit with 19" x5s. Personally I think its not going to look great unless your stupid low.

Best of luck though

[eltonking]

i'm running 15mm 5x100 => 5x120 adapters at the moment with some BMW spec racing hart splits, running 18x9/18x8 with ET 2 up back and ET 5 (i think?) up front. not quite the same, but it can be done. kinda.

:cookie:

[dylan8]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380368_10150831424560965_1878090561_n.jpg
Thats a 19x10et32 with 2.5deg of camber and a 235/35 tyre
you may or not have more room due to camber/4mo suspension setup, and may or may not have a variation in offset due to wide track/different brakes.
from what iv noticed there is a difference in 4mo and FWD mk4s in relation to the wheel track. so most of the info/photos above are invalid as they are FWD cars...

plus your dealing with serious wheels, so at the end of the day, each car is different by enough to make or break the fitment.

Have a look through this thread, there are some 4mo setups on both big and wide wheels.
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f14/vww-official-mkiv-wheel-q-76233.html