Golf Mk7 Officially Revealed !! (Now with First Drive Reviews on page 8)

[phaeton]

The New Golf: In Depth - VWwatercooled News (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/2012/09/seventh-generation-golf-breaks-cover-in-berlin/)

Live photos from Berlin - UnitedPictures (http://www.unitedpictures.eu/2623/3_2623_131_48935_2.php)

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[phaeton]

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[team_v]

To be honest I was expecting a bigger change in style since the odd number Mk (1/3/5 etc) were a big change from the previous generation.
Very noticible on the whole mk1-7 generation photo.

This seems like just a facelift and some extra tech that we likely won't see anyway (folding mirrors or keyless entry etc)

[cktsi]

The only news article i could find this morning was this one

2013 Volkswagen Golf Mk7 – first images and details! (http://paultan.org/2012/09/05/2013-volkswagen-golf-mk7-first-images-and-details/)

Any others let us know!

Twincharger has been dropped!

[jamie88]

i agree, a few more " edges" but nothing revolutionary.
kinda like an iphone update, throw a few gadgets, and call it a new model.
not so different to the 5-6 update too

[team_v]

i agree, a few more " edges" but nothing revolutionary.
kinda like an iphone update, throw a few gadgets, and call it a new model.
not so different to the 5-6 update too

Really the only update is the MQB platform underneath but you would think they would change the design a little more to show that.

[Lima]

I have 20 x pics available at 2000px sizing as well as a downloadable 44pg press kit waiting for you on AUSmotive...

http://ausm.tv/1ww

[Ryan_R]

Looking at the interior, notice the DSG it has D/S together, not on separate rows

Then on the nav system the buttons say Radio, Media, Phone, *Voice*, Nav, Traffic, *Car*, Setup. Perhaps Car replaces some older MFD settings, surely it's not an OBD2 tool.

Also don't like the side mirror controls facing that way similar to the current Jetta, found it harder to move the mirrors precisely compared to it's current orientation on the Mk6 Golf.

Hard to tell but is the accelerator pedal not coming up from the floor this time?

Climatronic buttons in a row along the top as before, hard to get the one you want sometimes. Below in the middle dial they also have a Setup button???

(copied from closed thread)

[calaleu]

I may get flamed for this but Front and Side views have hints of the POLO 6R!!!

[Molotov]

From a side angle, the rear quarter actually reminds of the MK IV. Is it just me?

It looks fine without being 'exciting'. I'm sure the hot-hatch versions will looks good.

[Lima]

i agree, a few more " edges" but nothing revolutionary.
kinda like an iphone update, throw a few gadgets, and call it a new model.
not so different to the 5-6 update too

If you expect any different you're fooling yourself. No new Golf has ever been revolutionary compared to its previous generation. The closest Volkswagen has ever come to revolution was the step from Mk4 GTI to Mk5 GTI. Which made up for the devolution from Mk2 GTI to Mk3 GTI, haha.

Anyway, I have added a couple of new PDFs to the Golf VII article on AUSmotive (http://ausm.tv/1ww). If you'd like to bore yourself silly on the details I recommend you check them out.

[phaeton]

The big reveal in Berlin - Golf 7 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-rRgQyvs2g)

Golf 7 Exterior & Interior Video - Golf 7 Exterior & Interior - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV8DyOFGPGA)

[geeza]

I may get flamed for this but Front and Side views have hints of the POLO 6R!!!

Definetly, maybe no bad thing but with the look of the Passat and now this, they'll basically all look the same pretty soon!

Front seems high - might be good with a deep front spoiler, i don't really care as i expect the GTI to be great

[team_v]

Also interesting to note the electric parking brake as per the Tiguan which from memory was not available in the Mk6 model.

[AdamD]

I must say, overall, the look is growing on me. It's by no means exciting, but there are nice design touches. I think it bodes well for the GTI and R down the track - they should be able to take the more angular cues quite a bit further.

As much as I love the Mk6 interior (and consider it a huge step over the Mk5), the Mk7 is looking better again. That wide centre stack, angled toward the driver, gives it a much more prestigious feel. There may be a handful of changes for the worse, but consider its competitors - like the new Focus - and it's leagues in front.

[Ryan_R]

Was happy to read this:

A note on the DSG, which is now programmed to disconnect the engine on a trailing throttle to aid fuel economy. There’s also an optional system that offers selectable Eco, Sport, Normal and Individual driving modes.

Hopefully that means no more horrible eco upshifting in normal D mode

[phaeton]

Live photos from Berlin UnitedPictures.COM (http://www.unitedpictures.eu/2623/3_2623_131_48935_2.php)

[Jamesgrr]

I think it looks fantastic, new but still has a golf look.
Can't wait to see the GTI and R variants.

Curious to know abit more about the touchscreen radio's. Hopefully B/tooth will be standard across the range.

For those saying it's just an upgrade.
Volkswagen has said several different times that every piece of the car is either new or modified.

[pologti18t]

Was happy to read this:

A note on the DSG, which is now programmed to disconnect the engine on a trailing throttle to aid fuel economy.Th

Is this something they borrowed from Porsche?

[Kwoka]

Think it'll be hard to put that headunit onto a MK6 Golf?

[Ryan_R]

Was previously discussed somewhere as being impossible. Even retrofitting HU's in the Mk7 will require a dealer key of some kind. Same goes for map upgrades.

[Lima]

Just got this confirmation from VW Aus: "We are planning to launch the Golf VII in the 2nd qtr 2013."

[team_v]

Just got this confirmation from VW Aus: "We are planning to launch the Golf VII in the 2nd qtr 2013."

Read: June.

GTI December 2013.

[elephino]

Interesting, the cruise control controls have moved onto the steering wheel.

[pologti18t]

The "longer nose" must be the latest design trend. Even the new Corolla seems to have moved in that direction.
In fact the whole "longer and lower" seems to be a trend. Both the Golf7 and new Corolla are lower than the outgoing models.

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[Lima]

Well Mk5/Mk6 are ridiculously tall, so making the Mk7 lower makes sense to me.

Perhaps the longer nose is a result of pedestrian safety design techniques?

[MkVIGTI]

I may get flamed for this but Front and Side views have hints of the POLO 6R!!!

And the tail lights, but then again this seems to be the new VW design language.

[magellan]

Notice the little window above the door mirror between the A-pillar and front door? Not sure if I like that.

[alebonau]

Notice the little window above the door mirror between the A-pillar and front door? Not sure if I like that.

good pick up, I had a peugeot that had that, and its a pita to keep clean. serves no real purpose either !

[backdoc]

I may be going out on a limb here, but I just don't like it externally. I think the interior looks very nice, but outside, I find it kind of boring. I always want to upgrade to the latest, but I can see myself keeping my MK6 a little longer or moving to a different brand.

[The_Hawk]

First impressions are that I like the overall shape but the headlights looks like half a step back and are a cross between the MK5 and MK6 headlights. The tail lights also look a little off... then I'm sure it will grow on me.

As for the interior, loving it. That new RNS looks sweet and the fancy coloured MFD looks awesome too! (Would install one in my MK6 if anyone could confirm it actually works! (http://www.carsystems.pl/golf,c62.html)). So yeah, overall good :D

[raygti]

Agreed with the headlights I can see mk5 ....

[DkN]

Definitely not feeling the exterior.

Maybe it will grow on me like the mk6 did eventually but honestly I'll stick to my mk5.

By the way, my girlfriend consistently gets confused and mistakes the mk6 for the older generation from the rear, lol. mk5 + colour coded rear bar & OEM LED still looking the best IMO :thumb:

Oh and I think I will also take the new Seat Leon over the Golf 7

[brisgtimkv]

that weight saving is the duck's nuts. 100+ kg? awesome. if they do the same with the GTI and it gets +-170kw that puts it in the same power/weight territory as a lotus exige s. The R will be pushing around 200kw/tonne. For around $60k! i don't even care what it looks like, this diet has been a long time coming.

[Lima]

Not sure we'll ever see the 3dr Golf VII in Australia, but if we do...

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[Deadly_headmen]

Car sales only mentioned 3 engines. I wonder what will replace the 118tsi?

[ziggyboy]

Car sales only mentioned 3 engines. I wonder what will replace the 118tsi?
Good question. I think there is a huge gap between the 103kw petrol to the GTI, though the GTD will be 138kw. Won't be upgrading for at least 3 years but I'll probably get the MK7 GTD if I were to upgrade now.

I found the 118TSI to be good in terms of value for power, and (I'll probably get flamed for this) find the GTI to be a bit overpriced for what you get. That said, the 118TSI engine is still an unreliable POS. Haha!

[Ryan_R]

There was an article a few months ago saying the Mk7 would later include a Hybrid option with power figures in the ballpark of the outgoing 118TSI. There was a thread about it here.

[Deadly_headmen]

Good question. I think there is a huge gap between the 103kw petrol to the GTI, though the GTD will be 138kw. Won't be upgrading for at least 3 years but I'll probably get the MK7 GTD if I were to upgrade now.

I found the 118TSI to be good in terms of value for power, and (I'll probably get flamed for this) find the GTI to be a bit overpriced for what you get. That said, the 118TSI engine is still an unreliable POS. Haha!

My mum had one. It was good fun to drive. They need something to fill the sub 8 second gap

[GTI4fun]

The back somewhat does have a hint of MkIV golf i swear.

Has it been mantioned about pricing at all?? All i see is dimensions, outputs, improvements, mods, versions but no price...

[team_v]

The back somewhat does have a hint of MkIV golf i swear.

Has it been mantioned about pricing at all?? All i see is dimensions, outputs, improvements, mods, versions but no price...

Pricing won't be available until Q2 next year as this was the worldwide release of the model/design not so much the sale.

[PassatB6]

Pricing won't be available until Q2 next year as this was the worldwide release of the model/design not so much the sale.

The initial info coming from the German mags was that it would be cheaper but it looks like the pricing is similar to the last Golf (at least in Germany) but with more standard equipment. Touchscreens are standard on all models for example. Optional extras are reported as being expensive. You can upgrade the media centre with the top line ones also acting as a wireless hotspot.

[hentaiboy]

Exterior: Meh
Interior: Yum

[WEDEL.1]

One of the strengths of the Golf is that the styling doesn't drastically alter from model to model. I like it as it doesn't obsolete my Golf as quickly.



Really the only update is the MQB platform underneath but you would think they would change the design a little more to show that.

[phaeton]

German site
Der neue Golf < Modelle < Volkswagen Deutschland (http://www.volkswagen.de/de/models/golf_7.html)

Configurator with 3dr preview
Konfigurator < Der neue Golf < Modelle < Volkswagen Deutschland (http://www.volkswagen.de/de/models/golf_7/konfigurator.html)

German spec Brochures
Infomaterial < Der neue Golf < Modelle < Volkswagen Deutschland (http://www.volkswagen.de/de/models/golf_7/brochure.html)

[Deadly_headmen]

German price remains the same for entry 16,500 euro

[DkN]

Exterior: Meh
Interior: Yum

That about sums it up.


One of the strengths of the Golf is that the styling doesn't drastically alter from model to model. I like it as it doesn't obsolete my Golf as quickly.

I'd say mk4 to mk5 was a pretty big change, and even mk5 to mk6 feels like a bigger change than 6 to 7. Unexpected since mk6 was considered a mk5.5 externally, and mk7 is supposed to be using the brand new MQB platform and all..

[brisgtimkv]

looks great in video. look at the rear 3/4 view in particular at the end of the vid. the rear of the car is perfect. those creases are so sharp, and the lines...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISNMQXJW4Y0&feature=share&list=UUzToShYR6Sw_k1i6FsdEr6g

[ralp2dam]

looks great in video. look at the rear 3/4 view in particular at the end of the vid. the rear of the car is perfect. those creases are so sharp, and the lines...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISNMQXJW4Y0&feature=share&list=UUzToShYR6Sw_k1i6FsdEr6g

Looks like a good detailed review shame I don't speak German or wasn't in English.

[MkVIGTI]

if they do the same with the GTI and it gets +-170kw that puts it in the same power/weight territory as a lotus exige s. The R will be pushing around 200kw/tonne.

Not really, the old Exige S has 163kw but weighs less than a tonne. The GTI even with 100kgs weight reduction will still come in at about 1.3tonnes and is rumored to get 169kw (130kw/tonne) so still quite a bit off. The Golf R with its AWD will be about 1.4 tonnes and with its rumored 209kw, will come down to about 150kw/tonne. Having said that it is still a healthy increase compared to the Mk VI (GTI - 112kw/tonne, R - 127kw/tonne)!

[ziggyboy]

I didn't know the Golf was that heavy. My Jetta MK6 is 1.34 tonnes.

[Lima]

Manual Mk7s are 1270kg, so you'd expect a Mk7 GTI to be at least that, possibly more with extra equipment maybe???

A DSG box weighs around 20kg more than a manual.

Mk6 GTIs weigh 1360kg (1380Kg DSG).

[MkVIGTI]

Don't forget the Mk VII is 'up to' 100kgs lighter, so it won't be 100kgs for every model. But I sure hope that the rumoured aluminium panels will make it to the GTI/R!

[Ryan_R]

I heard the GTI lost the most amount of weight. How much does XDL weigh (if anything), since this is being added to all Golf's but the GTI already had it, so that affects weight loss comparison.

[MkVIGTI]

I heard the GTI lost the most amount of weight. How much does XDL weigh (if anything), since this is being added to all Golf's but the GTI already had it, so that affects weight loss comparison.

Not sure how much the XDL weighs (if anything) but the new GTI will come with a mechanical diff. This will be heavier than the XDL for sure! But then again it also improves cornering grip.

[gt_eye]

Wake me up when the GTI and R are announced...

[Ryan_R]

... when September ends? ;)



Sorry couldn't help myself :D

[AdamD]

Not sure how much the XDL weighs (if anything) but the new GTI will come with a mechanical diff.

Do you have a source for this? I've not seen any reference to a mechanical LSD being fitted to the MkVII GTI.

[jrgti]

Not sure about the GTI but pretty sure all the golfs have an electronic controlled mechanical lock diff.

Really tempted to get the 2.0 GTD mk7 for my next car given the fuel consumption ratings. A theoretical range of ~1300km is equivalent to only having to refuel once a month at least for the distances that I cover on average each week. Hope all the speculation in the press turns out to be more or less accurate.

[AdamD]

Not sure about the GTI but pretty sure all the golfs have an electronic controlled mechanical lock diff.

So, all cars (excluding electric cars with one motor per wheel and no common axle) have a mechanical differential. The Mk6 GTI and all MkVII Golfs will have XDL, eXtended Differential Lock, which despite the name actually has nothing to do with the differential, and is not a mechanical limited slip diff (although it's often compared to one), or a differential lock. It uses the ABS sensors (and possibly others) to detect wheel slip when exiting corners under power, and applies the brakes to the inner driving wheel to send more torque to the outer wheel, with more grip.

AFAIK, there's no plan to introduce a mechanical LSD (ala RenaultSport Megane RS, etc etc) to any of the MkVII Golfs.

[MkVIGTI]

Do you have a source for this? I've not seen any reference to a mechanical LSD being fitted to the MkVII GTI.

I've read articles on the GTI stating that it'll come with the new VAQ electronically-controlled front differential lock, not really a LSD I guess

2014 Volkswagen Golf GTI (MkVII) Spy Shots | Car Spy Photos (http://carsspyphotos.net/2014-volkswagen-golf-gti-mkvii-spy-shots/)

[labrys]

Tail Lights look a tad too 'Alfa'ish to me. I prefer my Mk6 interior too. I too look forward to seeing what the R/GTI/GTD look like....

[jazd]

I need some info about the GTD's new donk.

[team_v]

There are pictures up on topspeed today about the Mk7 R prototype but i would hazard a guess at it actually being the GTI since the front bumper is a lot more conservative and the exhaust is split to either side instead of the middle.

Spy Shots: 2014 Volkswagen Golf R Drops Some Cammo - Top Speed (http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/spy-shots-2014-volkswagen-golf-r-drops-some-cammo-ar134781.html)

[Lima]

It's been reported/speculated previously (http://www.ausmotive.com/2012/08/24/mk7-golf-r-says-dont-you-forget-about-me.html) that the next R will have quad exhaust tips, a pair at either side of the car.

[snerlo]

I reckon they have gone a bit limp since the MkV R. I thought it had presence. Mk6 was a little bit of a let down, but if that IS the R, then I think they have lost the plot. Let's hope not hey!

[phaeton]

Tail Lights look a tad too 'Alfa'ish to me. I prefer my Mk6 interior too. I too look forward to seeing what the R/GTI/GTD look like....

Walter De Silva was at Alfa Romeo before then VW CEO Ferdinand Piech (now Chairman of Supervisory Board) hired him after he saw the 156.

[Speed]

I reckon they have gone a bit limp since the MkV R. I thought it had presence. Mk6 was a little bit of a let down, but if that IS the R, then I think they have lost the plot. Let's hope not hey!

I also believe that they have gone a bit limp since the Mk V.
For starters the R32 lost it's 6 and became a glorified gti.

The Mk VI, although not completely hideous, is a bit too slabby for my liking.
How hard is it to keep pumped guards?! Simple recipe: Pumped guards + 2.0 turbo engine, 6 speed manual & LSD.
The "R" should be a quattro 6. Anything less is an insult.

[DoggieHowser]

I think the 5 pot used in the RS3 would have been perfect. The 6 was too front heavy.

[elephino]

I also believe that they have gone a bit limp since the Mk V.
For starters the R32 lost it's 6 and became a glorified gti.

The Mk VI, although not completely hideous, is a bit too slabby for my liking.
How hard is it to keep pumped guards?! Simple recipe: Pumped guards + 2.0 turbo engine, 6 speed manual & LSD.
The "R" should be a quattro 6. Anything less is an insult.

I've been insulted ever since BMW went away from a 4 cylinder engine in the M3!

Performance of the R is more important than the number of cylinders or driven wheels (though losing the sound of the 6 was a bit disappointing).

[julesski]

I am on my third Golf now and was really looking forward to the release of the MK7. Whilst I understand it is different underneath, surely they could have done a little more to entice buyers to upgrade. I did not expect radical change in design (this is VW after all) but this is Conservative with a capital, italicised and bold "C".

From the front, it really is difficult to pick the new model over the old.

[Deadly_headmen]

I also believe that they have gone a bit limp since the Mk V.
For starters the R32 lost it's 6 and became a glorified gti.

The Mk VI, although not completely hideous, is a bit too slabby for my liking.
How hard is it to keep pumped guards?! Simple recipe: Pumped guards + 2.0 turbo engine, 6 speed manual & LSD.
The "R" should be a quattro 6. Anything less is an insult.

And that glorified gti is better.

[phaeton]

First Drive Galleries
Volkswagen Golf (2013) (http://www.netcarshow.com/volkswagen/2013-golf/)
UnitedPictures.COM (http://www.unitedpictures.eu/2623/3_2623_131_49179_2.php)

First Drive Reviews
2013 VW Golf: first drive review | carsguide.com.au (http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/2013_vw_golf_first_drive_review/)
First drive review: Volkswagen Golf Mk7 Review | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf/first-drives/first-drive-review-volkswagen-golf-mk7)
Volkswagen Golf Mk7 review | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/60586/volkswagen-golf-mk7)
Volkswagen Golf Mk VII: Launch Review (http://www.carsales.com.au/reviews/2012/small-passenger/volkswagen/golf/volkswagen-golf-mk-vii-launch-review-32797)
Drive - 2013 Volkswagen Golf Review (http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/first-drive-new-vw-golf-20121002-26x7v.html)

[Lima]

Just read the Autocar review. Sounds good.

[phaeton]

Just read the Autocar review. Sounds good.

Drive's one is a good read to Lima.

[Paulc1964au]

When are the release dates for the GTI and R in Australia?

[AdamD]

When are the release dates for the GTI and R in Australia?

We don't know the release dates for these models in Europe, so it's speculative at best as to when they'll be launched here.

If the GTI follows the approximate schedule of the Mk6, it could be launched here in the 4th quarter 2013. The R, possibly second quarter 2014.

[Captain Courteous]

it could be launched here in the 4th quarter 2013.

I was told the same thing at the dealership.. Makes sense seeing as the non-GTI is due out for April..

[ziggyboy]

Here's a review of the MK7:

Volkswagen Golf MK7 review - CarBuyer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxXnm0gfB1A)

[THE_EGG]

Here's a review of the MK7:

Volkswagen Golf MK7 review - CarBuyer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxXnm0gfB1A)

Although I like the reviewers and reviews on Carbuyer, they have a tendency to be bias towards German cars from what I've seen and read. Something to do with Matt being involved with Auto Express as well. Autocar also sometimes making biased reviews.

Good find though.

[Tobes_WIR35]

Although I like the reviewers and reviews on Carbuyer, they have a tendency to be bias towards German cars from what I've seen and read. Something to do with Matt being involved with Auto Express as well. Autocar also sometimes making biased reviews.

Good find though.

I think it's probably fair to say most people who've had the pleasure of driving and owning a German car (or pretty much anything German engineered) tend to have a predisposition towards them, but mostly because they're just simply better. Even German beer!

[Candyman]

So, tiny improvements in some items but the same bland interior and exterior, not a winner in any particular class, still the same flakey DSG and in our case, likely to be deficient in items that much cheaper cars get standard.

Oh well, VW still sell the Golf in numbers so why change the format.

[Tobes_WIR35]

That's the great thing about aesthetics, they're mostly subjective. For example, I really like things that are designed subtly, whereas others like things that are a bit more outlandish. For instance, I really like mid 20th century Scandanavian furniture and architecture because it is so minimalist and geometric. A lot of people cannot understand why I like it because in their eyes it's boring - they would rather the latest funky trend from Freedom. On the other side of the coin I have seen quite a few cars (usually Commodores or Jap coffins) getting around with big bodykits and neon-coloured rims, which I think is the most ridiculous looking thing I have ever seen, but obviously the owners love it.

One man's meat is another man's poison.

RE standard features, yes there are cheaper cars that have all the bells and whistles. The features list in some Hyundai's/Kia's etc is unbelievable for the money. But having the features on paper, and having features that are well engineered, made from quality materials in an ethical and sustainable manner, and that actually work well, is a different ball game. Right down to small details; I was having an up-close look at the headlights of my Golf compared to a Hyundai i45 the other day. The VW's headlight reflectors and plastic castings are almost perfect. The integrity and shape of the reflectors is a mirror finish, with no casting marks/dags whatsoever. The LED modules are so much higher quality you cannot even compare them. The PMMA headlight lense on the Golf, like the reflector, has no casting imperfections at all. The i45 had casting marks, dags and surface imperfections all over it. I don't know what material the lense is made from but I would hazard a guess that it's not as impact resistant as the VW. Most people would say "I don't give a rats about the plastic in the headlights - it's not important" and they are possibly correct. But this same level of quality and engineering goes across the board, the headlight is just an example of something readily visible.

I'm not just talking about VW cars here, but any product in the market place. It's not 100% true that you get what you pay for, but it's probably 95% true.

[Candyman]

This is my second Golf (GTI and now an R)

Overall, they were and are both, great all rounders. I don't mind the styling, I like the subdued look.

However, the design is stagnant. Has been in use for many years across many models.

I am also under no illusion that the actual mechanics and electrics of the Golf are not the best, in fact, sub par in many cases. Again, I accept those issues.

LCA bushes, DSG, PCV, actuator, air filter design, head units, Haldex, list goes on.

Still, the MKVII will sell but it is becoming a less attractive and valid offering.

[alebonau]

Here's a review of the MK7:

Volkswagen Golf MK7 review - CarBuyer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxXnm0gfB1A)

good find. golf no doubt building on its previous success. if it aint broke as they say. and heck they probably sell enough of them so why do anything drastic.

strange though it is after 3 years of golf gti ownership am definitely looking for that something extra. maybe am not one of those who update a car to step into the next model that isnt greatly different than the one previous. for me its a bit too much of same old same old ... just wouldnt feel like a new car. perhaps I need something else for a while, skip a generation or two and then come back. the more and more am seeing of the new model the more its confirming my thinking :)

[alebonau]

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One man's meat is another man's poison.

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agree with your totally. the sheeps clothing has always been the hall mark of the gti so cant see that changing and is probably no 1 attraction of it. also agree whole heartedly its not about features. like yourself checked out both i30 and the veloster chock full they are with stuff that costs a lot on german cars...but yeah didnt grab me. drive the cars, get to use them and soon can sense the difference :)

[Tobes_WIR35]

The design language is definitely in keeping with previous models and is more of an evolution than revolution, but it's also on an entirely new platform, which is a pretty big step from a design and manufacturing viewpoint.

Being the cautious buyer that I am, I would be more inclined to buy a car that's an evolution of several previous models rather than a totally new car. Even the best designers and engineers can't get everything right the first time... let's hope the niggles and known failures of the mk6 are addressed in the mk7. I would like to see refinement in the DSG operation and some general improvements to NVH.

[GippsCC]

Part of the Golf's success is that it appeals to the broadest number of people possible. If that leads some to call it bland, etc, etc I reckon let them buy some bank for buck special that has no resale value, or else spend a king ransom's on some custom hand crafted vehicle put together by Belgian monks on blue moon nights only, just to stroke their ego about being "different". To each their own.

Me, I'm happy to be just one in the many VW owners who've never looked back.

[Tobes_WIR35]

There's always the Scirrocco R if you want something a bit more eye catching too....

[Candyman]

There's always the Scirrocco R if you want something a bit more eye catching too....

Many would suggest, eye catching for the wrong reasons .....

[Tobes_WIR35]

Yeah, I'm still undecided about the 'Rocco. Sometimes I see one and think "DAMN!!!" and other times I think "damn...."

I don't like the green at all, blue is a bit meh, Black, White and Grey look okay, especially with the black Talledegas.

I'd probably consider a white one with black wheels, sunroof and dark tinted windows...

[alebonau]

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/735630_10151257610884003_1070739802_o.jpg

also the latest beetle I suppose which is apprently just landed in the country. not sure we're getting the hot gti version that they originally touted.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Volkwagen-Beetle-2012-gets-GTI-spec-engines/

looked pretty mean with the big wheels and chopped roof :)

but no not for me I dont think hehehe

[Ryan_R]

At least not a yellow or red one. There were a couple of darker meaner looking colours with vinyls iirc.

[Tobes_WIR35]

I would be up for one of these (as long as it's got the 155TSI or 188TFSI engine)

http://motorimpress.com/images/news/03.2012/2012-geneva-motor-show/abt-beetle/abt-beetle-00.jpg

http://www.ausmotive.com/images2011/VW-Beetle-R-concept-01.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SzHUWFvGi5M/TfI1HLAtFzI/AAAAAAAEjGc/_q8aFnBXmQE/s1600/VWvortex-2012-Beetle-RS-Stage-1_02.jpg

http://www.car61.com/wp-content/uploads/ABT-Volkswagen-Beetle-2.0-TDI.jpg

[phaeton]

I think we're only getting the 118TSI with packages ala up!

[Tobes_WIR35]

Sometimes I wonder what kind of spuds run the marketing department at VWA. Our portion of golf GTIs sold compared to basic models is so high compared to the rest of the world. It's clear we like the performance models. Just bloody give them to us!

[DoggieHowser]

Damn. Friends in FB just posted pics of the VII that's already launched in Singapore where it's also the same side of the road as here. What's taking so long for us?

[Tobes_WIR35]

I honestly think that VWA are a bit simple. That could be why. Their customers know more about the cars they'll be importing than they do. When we were wanting to buy an Up! VWA had virtually no information whatsoever until the day the car was released in showrooms, and even then it was very sketchy. They don't pass on information to their dealers, and their dealers don't seem to be too interested in finding out. They are lucky they're backed by such a global powerhouse and a great product, otherwise they would be up the creek.

[Frankenstrat]

Sometimes I wonder what kind of spuds run the marketing department at VWA.

I feel like making a decision today. I know, let's decide that the Golf 103TDI is no longer available with manual transmission. Another glass of Chardonnay anyone?

[Lemonskin]

Sometimes I wonder what kind of spuds run the marketing department at VWA. Our portion of golf GTIs sold compared to basic models is so high compared to the rest of the world. It's clear we like the performance models. Just bloody give them to us!

I''ve heard this many times... Does anyone know if there are figures?

[Tobes_WIR35]

I have read in several motoring journalist's articles that the global average is about 5%. Ours is 25%. I cannot provide source references unfortunately.

[Dutch77]

I have read in several motoring journalist's articles that the global average is about 5%. Ours is 25%. I cannot provide source references unfortunately.

There's a reference here confirming your percentage.

Drive - Volkswagen Golf GTI Supply Running Out (http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/vw-running-out-of-golf-gtis-20121003-26yam.html)