phaeton's Trip to the Dealer: CC 2012MY Edition

[phaeton]

Thanks to Solitaire Volkswagen Hawthorn

CC V6 4Motion
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[phaeton]

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[phaeton]

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CC TDI with BlueMotion Technology
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[phaeton]

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[team_v]

Looks like a catfish now with the revised front end.
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Good to see they have 5 seats in the back and a full size spare.

[tigger73]

Good to see they have 5 seats in the back and a full size spare.

Yes good news that they've realised that they don't need to copy the Mercedes CLS anymore.

But did notice that on the sticker it still only says 4 seats.

[CaptainKydd]

I've seen enough. I'm replacing my 2009 CC TDI with Audi a5 Sportback TDI or Audi A6 TDI.

[tessie]

I've seen enough. I'm replacing my 2009 CC TDI with Audi a5 Sportback TDI or Audi A6 TDI.
....interesting. I have a 2010 CC TDI, mocha/anthracite with bone colour interior, 50,000 on clock, no issues whatever so far...touch wood. 2 and a half years of driving it and I'm pretty happy with the car. I actually prefer mine over the new one, I don't much like the new grill/front-end treatment, the tail-lights make it more Audi-ish but the original ones are more unique and different, which I prefer. Mind you, it would be an improved car and a better drive, but its now lost some of its originality. I also prefer the 4 seat configuration, another more unique touch, that fifth seat looks pretty ordinary to me, a real short distance thing for someone with a skinny bum. My 2c worth.

[tigger73]

Agree 5th seat looks small and a bit of an afterthought. Plus styling has gone boring probably aimed at US market. Likely a very nice car to drive but a bit ho hum.

[tessie]

Another couple of things, my 2010 does'nt have the stumpy aerial, it has a wire in the rear glass, and those badges, too common, lose them. Mine came badgeless, much cleaner. They really have decided to join the madding crowd have'nt they?

[AdamD]

Another couple of things, my 2010 does'nt have the stumpy aerial, it has a wire in the rear glass, and those badges, too common, lose them. Mine came badgeless, much cleaner.

The sharkfin antenna is for the satnav fitted to these cars. It's always been that way:

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My father has a 2010 CC and I too have to say I think this is a retrograde step. Agree 100% on the badges too - the car looks so much better with a clean, badgeless boot. About the only change that I like are the tail lights (I found them a bit too Hyundai-curvy on the previous model).

[tessie]

The sharkfin antenna is for the satnav fitted to these cars. It's always been that way:

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My father has a 2010 CC and I too have to say I think this is a retrograde step. Agree 100% on the badges too - the car looks so much better with a clean, badgeless boot. About the only change that I like are the tail lights (I found them a bit too Hyundai-curvy on the previous model).

oops, my bad. Did'nt realise that aerial was sat-nav. Good to see some opinions on this up-grade.

[seppo]

Another couple of things, my 2010 does'nt have the stumpy aerial, it has a wire in the rear glass, and those badges, too common, lose them. Mine came badgeless, much cleaner. They really have decided to join the madding crowd have'nt they?

How did you debadge your CC and could you possibly post photos? Looking to do same. Thanks

[tessie]

How did you debadge your CC and could you possibly post photos? Looking to do same. Thanks

It was bought without badges Seppo, I'm sure they all were prior to this upgrade.

[GippsCC]

Thanks Phaeton for the great pics of new CC - were very useful in helping Philip from Lakin Plates get idea of number plate mounts. He's putting together some mini Euro number plate custom frames for me to mount onto my new CC, when it arrives from Germany. Can't wait!

[GippsCC]

And don't those Interlagos wheels look sexy! Sadly, not on 125TDI although Lakeville wheels look better (IMHO) than the shoes the Passat CC diesel used to wear.

[Alister]

Always been a fan of the CC - previous model had a bit more 'style' than this updated model though IMO.

They are (and have always been) a great bang for buck model compared to much of the other Euro competion. Come very well specced with all the fruit (much of which is standard-fare).

[GippsCC]

Always been a fan of the CC - previous model had a bit more 'style' than this updated model though IMO.

They are (and have always been) a great bang for buck model compared to much of the other Euro competion. Come very well specced with all the fruit (much of which is standard-fare).

I considered changing over when the previous model Passat CC was released, but held off. Given the value offering was improved with a lot of options being thrown in as standard with this new model, I'm sort of glad I did. Definitely hard to turn down now - I looked at MB CDI 250, BMW 320i, Landrover Sport and even Toureg in comparison and the new Volkswagen CC just came out ahead on bang for buck every time (I don't mind paying more than CC's price tag, but as an overall package it's hard to justify the gaps with the others - they might be a little better in some areas, but not enough to justify the premium).

[Eaglen00b]

And don't those Interlagos wheels look sexy! Sadly, not on 125TDI although Lakeville wheels look better (IMHO) than the shoes the Passat CC diesel used to wear.

I wonder if it'd be possible to specify all five wheels (including spare) to be Interlagos instead of Lakevilles when you put down an order for a new CC at the dealership?? I'd even consider laying down a little bit extra cash for the changeover, but most definitely not a silly figure like over $1,000 just for wheels, ESPECIALLY WHEN I don't get to keep the original wheels to sell on eBay or something to recover some of the cost!

Like GippsCC said, the Interlagos wheels are mighty fine lookin. However it's standard with the V6, which I'm not really a fan of.

The perfect combination for me would be a 125TDI with 4Motion and Interlagos wheels, which unfortunately can't be had (4motion at least) in Australia.

Personally I find the Lakevilles don't really complement the sleekness of the car. The previous wheels on the diesel were simply ghastly and had more than just a hint of "WTF were they thinking?!?!".

[GippsCC]

I wonder if it'd be possible to specify all five wheels (including spare) to be Interlagos instead of Lakevilles when you put down an order for a new CC at the dealership?? I'd even consider laying down a little bit extra cash for the changeover, but most definitely not a silly figure like over $1,000 just for wheels, ESPECIALLY WHEN I don't get to keep the original wheels to sell on eBay or something to recover some of the cost!

Like GippsCC said, the Interlagos wheels are mighty fine lookin. However it's standard with the V6, which I'm not really a fan of.

The perfect combination for me would be a 125TDI with 4Motion and Interlagos wheels, which unfortunately can't be had (4motion at least) in Australia.

Personally I find the Lakevilles don't really complement the sleekness of the car. The previous wheels on the diesel were simply ghastly and had more than just a hint of "WTF were they thinking?!?!".

It would be doable, but that $1K+ price would be in the wind I reckon (hell, just adding a tow bar was fifteen hundred!). There's no doubt I'd pause even at $1K plus asking, but really how much time do you spend looking at your mags - I'm crazy enough to consider it, not crazy enough to let myself say yes!

As for TDI with 4motion (and Interlagos rims) as an official option (or in perfect world, standard) I'd jump on that too - just crazy diesel misses out on that option (you'd have to think better suited right? If it was SUV, it'd be a forgone conclusion).

As you say, at least I can consol myself that I didn't have to put up with the previous butt-ugly Lakevilles. So glad I didn't buy the 1st edition CC (almost did), this 2nd edition CC far better for both value and looks.

Hopefully it won't be too much longer for me to fawn over my one soon. Will definately share my experiences with the forum.

[Eaglen00b]

It would be doable, but that $1K+ price would be in the wind I reckon (hell, just adding a tow bar was fifteen hundred!). There's no doubt I'd pause even at $1K plus asking, but really how much time do you spend looking at your mags - I'm crazy enough to consider it, not crazy enough to let myself say yes!

As for TDI with 4motion (and Interlagos rims) as an official option (or in perfect world, standard) I'd jump on that too - just crazy diesel misses out on that option (you'd have to think better suited right? If it was SUV, it'd be a forgone conclusion).

As you say, at least I can consol myself that I didn't have to put up with the previous butt-ugly Lakevilles. So glad I didn't buy the 1st edition CC (almost did), this 2nd edition CC far better for both value and looks.

Hopefully it won't be too much longer for me to fawn over my one soon. Will definately share my experiences with the forum.

May I ask (if you don't mind sharing, that is) what was the driveaway price for your TDI (including the options you selected)?

Also, which dealer did you order it from and how long were you told it would take from signing on the dotted line to you physically driving your brand spanking new CC away from the dealership (no doubt with an enormous grin from ear to ear LOL)

I'm looking to purchase a similarly specced TDI as yours, less Dynaudio Premium Audio & towbar. Colorwise, I'm looking at Candy White, or perhaps Black Oak Brown.

As for $1,500 for the towbar option ..... I understand that it's an electronically extendable/retractable towbar but value for money wise..... I'd say the jury is out on that one.

[GippsCC]

May I ask (if you don't mind sharing, that is) what was the driveaway price for your TDI (including the options you selected)?

Also, which dealer did you order it from and how long were you told it would take from signing on the dotted line to you physically driving your brand spanking new CC away from the dealership (no doubt with an enormous grin from ear to ear LOL)

I'm looking to purchase a similarly specced TDI as yours, less Dynaudio Premium Audio & towbar. Colorwise, I'm looking at Candy White, or perhaps Black Oak Brown.

As for $1,500 for the towbar option ..... I understand that it's an electronically extendable/retractable towbar but value for money wise..... I'd say the jury is out on that one.

There will definitely be one hell of a grin on my face when I go to pick it up - probably so big I'll have trouble fitting my grin through the door when I get to sit in my new baby!

Because I'm a member of the Law Institute of Victoria I got a fleet discount well worth obtaining lol. Because it is fleet pricing, which is technically confidential, I won't disclose here but it made a good impact. At standard drive away, I understand it would have been in 70K region, whereas with fleet discount and my own bargaining I got somewhere in lowish 60K region - rounding to nearest 10K (sorry if that's a little to vague, but I think you get the idea without me giving anyway our trade secrets). My trade-in price was however lower than commercial price, but what with the combined discounts I still think got a fair deal.

My dealer was Massaro Volkswagen here in Gippsland, but I'd only recommend talking to Dale as one of his bosses didn't impress me at all (tried to renegotiate the deal after it was done, a big no no with me! You sign the contract, no backies after that - for either party).

My $1.5K tow bar goes well with my $500 mud flaps, but since Dale cut me some attractive numbers I wasn't going to sweat the small stuff (despite the obvious profit margin - but then he doesn't set the prices for these dealer fitted items, that from higher up).

I haven't followed up with Dale on hard delivery dates, as I figure it arrives when it arrives (until then I'm still driving my Golf TDI, which is still damn good to drive) but it was reckoned either Feb or Mar when we were doing the deal. As long as I get one, I'm happy.

White is the obvious choice in terms of value (metallic paint certainly doesn't cost the list price), but I like blue hence Night Blue for me, and I didn't want to have a hard time trying to find it in the car park (given White is the fleet car colour of choice). The Black Oak Brown would be better at hiding light dirt, but its such a personal choice that there is no better judge than yourself (just be happy with whatever you select, because you're stuck with it lol - my reason for going the Dynaudio despite my questionable hearing!).

[hadrami]

May I ask (if you don't mind sharing, that is) what was the driveaway price for your TDI (including the options you selected)?



I know that question wasn't directed at me but I recently put a deposit on:

125TDI MY13
White
Sunroof as only option
$55,900 driveaway from Barloworld in Moorabbin/Melbourne with no corporate/fleet discount.

The car should be at the docks on the 20th of January I'm told with 10-12 days for clearance work.

As for the rims on the diesel, I don't like at all and I actually couldn't option them up or pay extra to get the V6 wheels which is fine with me, as a friend of mine is a wheel and trye wholesaler who is happy to take my wheels and sort out the difference with whatever option I go for.

Overall, I believe I got a good deal considering that I had also put a deposit on a GTI and that price was supposed to be based on getting 2 cars. The finance for the GTI didn't get approved but the CC remained at that price so no complaints from me. :biggrin:

[GippsCC]

I know that question wasn't directed at me but I recently put a deposit on:

125TDI MY13
White
Sunroof as only option
$55,900 driveaway from Barloworld in Moorabbin/Melbourne with no corporate/fleet discount.

The car should be at the docks on the 20th of January I'm told with 10-12 days for clearance work.

As for the rims on the diesel, I don't like at all and I actually couldn't option them up or pay extra to get the V6 wheels which is fine with me, as a friend of mine is a wheel and trye wholesaler who is happy to take my wheels and sort out the difference with whatever option I go for.

Overall, I believe I got a good deal considering that I had also put a deposit on a GTI and that price was supposed to be based on getting 2 cars. The finance for the GTI didn't get approved but the CC remained at that price so no complaints from me. :biggrin:

Congrats hadrami. The new CC TDI is pretty well stocked even without adding from the small options list (and the more options, the more likely you'll hit the higher stamp duty - which definitely hurts!), and that price is pretty decent since list price is $62,873 drive away with those options (according to carsales.com.au).

You are far better off getting different rims aftermarket anyway - more choice, far better price (no stamp duty for starters) - so wise choice. I think dealers will only change rims that aren't on options list if he can find two buyers willing to swap (at least that was the case when I ordered my Golf and I was offered the GTI rims, because another guy was going to get his own rims put on, hence spare set for sale - although at $2K I declined). Guessing ordering them through spares not straightforward.

Love to hear you initial impressions after a week or two in your new CC, if you can post 'em.

[hadrami]

Congrats hadrami. The new CC TDI is pretty well stocked even without adding from the small options list (and the more options, the more likely you'll hit the higher stamp duty - which definitely hurts!), and that price is pretty decent since list price is $62,873 drive away with those options (according to carsales.com.au).

You are far better off getting different rims aftermarket anyway - more choice, far better price (no stamp duty for starters) - so wise choice. I think dealers will only change rims that aren't on options list if he can find two buyers willing to swap (at least that was the case when I ordered my Golf and I was offered the GTI rims, because another guy was going to get his own rims put on, hence spare set for sale - although at $2K I declined). Guessing ordering them through spares not straightforward.

Love to hear you initial impressions after a week or two in your new CC, if you can post 'em.

Don't really need the driver assistance package, and the only other option was self parking. I mean if you can't park with a reverse camera and parking sensors then perhaps you shouldn't be driving :facepalm:

The rims I can choose are here Products (http://www.wtw.net.au/products.asp?index=Audi)

Any opinion on which one would look better?

[GippsCC]

Don't really need the driver assistance package, and the only other option was self parking. I mean if you can't park with a reverse camera and parking sensors then perhaps you shouldn't be driving :facepalm:

The rims I can choose are here Products (http://www.wtw.net.au/products.asp?index=Audi)

Any opinion on which one would look better?

I like the BAYTON WHEELS
AUDI - VW - MERCEDES
19X8.5 MATT BLACK
5X112 42P, but it's always a highly personal choice. I do note that black rims with candy white paint tend to work well together, there is a thread here on this forum discussing this. You could go white rims but brake dust would be a pain in the arse.

19" rims would mean a firmer ride though (less rubber to cushion) but depends on how you like your feedback - would give a sportier feel.

As for the "driving Miss Daisy options" lol, the ones I must have were the climate seats (comfort) and the adaptive cruise (my right leg is weaker than my left due to spinal injury, so makes it easier for me in city traffic). Everything else was simply because it was there, and you can only factory option once (the only thing I excluded was the sun roof, because I just don't like 'em). Walnut trim aside (looks nice) I wouldn't really worry about their absence.

[Eaglen00b]

Don't really need the driver assistance package, and the only other option was self parking. I mean if you can't park with a reverse camera and parking sensors then perhaps you shouldn't be driving :facepalm:

The rims I can choose are here Products (http://www.wtw.net.au/products.asp?index=Audi)

Any opinion on which one would look better?

If I had to choose, I'd go for the AUDI RS8 SPY BLACK in 18X8. Anything bigger would mean a pretty rough ride over the kind of roads you're likely to drive on in Australia (well, at least the "loose filling finders" we have here in Perth that is :driver:). Oh, and I'd go for Matt Grey if available.

I haven't yet seen any rims in silver which look good with a Candy White CC, with the exception of Interlagos. They remind me of turbines which IMO goes well with a luxury/sport sort of feel to the car.

[Eaglen00b]

Heya Hadrami :)


I know that question wasn't directed at me but I recently put a deposit on:


Can you please clarify what you mean by "recent" :)?

One of the perks I get from work is provision of a fully maintained lease vehicle for my exclusive use. At the end of each lease period, I get to pick and choose a new vehicle from a company approved list. The lease on the vehicle I'm currently driving ends this year so I've been doing some forward planning.

For me this time around, my shortlist came down to Volkswagen CC TDI, Audi A5 Sportback 2.0 TDI, or BMW F30 320d Luxury Line. VW CC ticked all the boxes for me (especially with the 2013 update!!) and pipped the others bang-for-buck wise.

I really would like to avoid putting in my order for a CC too late because it would mean handing my current vehicle in and potentially spending months driving a company provided POS rental(which probably smells funny and has unexplainable stains :icon_puke: ) until the CC comes in.

I figured I'd try to time my order for the CC to minimise the wait in between cars.

[GippsCC]

If I had to choose, I'd go for the AUDI RS8 SPY BLACK in 18X8. Anything bigger would mean a pretty rough ride over the kind of roads you're likely to drive on in Australia (well, at least the "loose filling finders" we have here in Perth that is :driver:). Oh, and I'd go for Matt Grey if available.

I haven't yet seen any rims in silver which look good with a Candy White CC, with the exception of Interlagos. They remind me of turbines which IMO goes well with a luxury/sport sort of feel to the car.

That's why I love the Interlagos too lol - especially since I'm such a aviation geek :smile:

Agree that 19" rims come at a ride quality disadvantage, but then some actually like that firm feedback. To each their own.

[hadrami]

Heya Hadrami :)



Can you please clarify what you mean by "recent" :)?

One of the perks I get from work is provision of a fully maintained lease vehicle for my exclusive use. At the end of each lease period, I get to pick and choose a new vehicle from a company approved list. The lease on the vehicle I'm currently driving ends this year so I've been doing some forward planning.

For me this time around, my shortlist came down to Volkswagen CC TDI, Audi A5 Sportback 2.0 TDI, or BMW F30 320d Luxury Line. VW CC ticked all the boxes for me (especially with the 2013 update!!) and pipped the others bang-for-buck wise.

I really would like to avoid putting in my order for a CC too late because it would mean handing my current vehicle in and potentially spending months driving a company provided POS rental(which probably smells funny and has unexplainable stains :icon_puke: ) until the CC comes in.

I figured I'd try to time my order for the CC to minimise the wait in between cars.

Recent as in 2 weeks ago, should be receiving it soon hopefully.

What exactly is the 2013 update? If you mean free satnav and reverse camera then I believe the ones preceding MY13 also had them, perhaps not MY12 but pretty sure MY12.5 did. Maybe someone can confirm.

[hadrami]

I do note that black rims with candy white paint tend to work well together, there is a thread here on this forum discussing this.

Do you have the link?

[GippsCC]

I really would like to avoid putting in my order for a CC too late because it would mean handing my current vehicle in and potentially spending months driving a company provided POS rental(which probably smells funny and has unexplainable stains :icon_puke: ) until the CC comes in.

I figured I'd try to time my order for the CC to minimise the wait in between cars.

I understand its a four-five month wait from order, unless you happen to have a match to a prospective order put in (dealers will order a CC in advance of actual customer, given not everyone willing to wait - for some reason this always seems to be a TDI with sun roof lol or a stock V6). Hope that's of assistance.

[Eaglen00b]

AFAIK, the 2013 update was from MY12.5 onwards......

[GippsCC]

Do you have the link?

Found here:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f206/picking-colour-54514-2.html

You can see from Scotty's post that white with black rims gives an effect that hides the wheels somewhat - a meaner look I think.

[Eaglen00b]

Recent as in 2 weeks ago, should be receiving it soon hopefully.

What exactly is the 2013 update? If you mean free satnav and reverse camera then I believe the ones preceding MY13 also had them, perhaps not MY12 but pretty sure MY12.5 did. Maybe someone can confirm.


I understand its a four-five month wait from order, unless you happen to have a match to a prospective order put in (dealers will order a CC in advance of actual customer, given not everyone willing to wait - for some reason this always seems to be a TDI with sun roof lol or a stock V6). Hope that's of assistance.



Thank you very much to you both for letting me know about what to expect in terms of delivery/waiting periods. Most appreciated! I'm anticipating that I'll probably be looking more towards the 4-5 month wait, considering the options and color I'm after. Will be planning to put in the order at the appropriate time.

Of course I'm hoping the dealer will just turn around and say, "Funny you should be asking for that color and THOSE options... we have one that just came in and prepped for sale. We can have that ready for you to pick up this afternoon, if you like?" LOL... yeah... I didn't think so either!!! :P

Time to go to dealer shopping! ;)

[GippsCC]

Thank you very much to you both for letting me know about what to expect in terms of delivery/waiting periods. Most appreciated! I'm anticipating that I'll probably be looking more towards the 4-5 month wait, considering the options and color I'm after. Will be planning to put in the order at the appropriate time.

Of course I'm hoping the dealer will just turn around and say, "Funny you should be asking for that color and THOSE options... we have one that just came in and prepped for sale. We can have that ready for you to pick up this afternoon, if you like?" LOL... yeah... I didn't think so either!!! :P

Time to go to dealer shopping! ;)

Happy to help :smile: It's a test of fortitude waiting, but it is worth it to get what you want and not having to compromise. Nothing worse than a couple of months down the track going "I wish..."

Dealers are keen to sell you early too (especially since the longer they have an on-spec model on the floor, the more it costs them), so stick to your guns on what you want. Worth the wait :P