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watevs
06-06-2012, 09:49 PM
Hey everyone, plan on going test drive a few GTI DSG this weekend. No clue about DSG's Any specific sounds I should be looking out for? Any particular actions I should perform to see whether the gear box is in good shape? The more information people can provide would will be very much appreciated !?! THANKS!!!
h100vw
07-06-2012, 05:27 AM
Use it in all 3 modes, D S and Manual. The current owner might not like but you should rev the nuts off it and see what it changes like when you do that.
Must have had an oil change every 60K.
Should set off rolling, as soon as you come off the brakes, any lag in take off would be wrong. Might be able to stop that with a DSG reset with a VCDS cable, but you want that cleared before handing over your money. This sounds like you are slipping the clutch, you can feel the engine rev but the drive doesn't come in until much later. Makes parking a chore and hills starts a nightmare.
Gavin
team_v
07-06-2012, 06:39 AM
Use it in all 3 modes, D S and Manual. The current owner might not like but you should rev the nuts off it and see what it changes like when you do that.
Must have had an oil change every 60K.
Should set off rolling, as soon as you come off the brakes, any lag in take off would be wrong. Might be able to stop that with a DSG reset with a VCDS cable, but you want that cleared before handing over your money. This sounds like you are slipping the clutch, you can feel the engine rev but the drive doesn't come in until much later. Makes parking a chore and hills starts a nightmare.
Gavin
I'll echo Gavin's sentiments on the hill start.
I would find the biggest hill you can and try accelerating on it from a stop.
This should show if the DSG has any faults.
brimway
07-06-2012, 07:27 AM
+1
Also reverse very slowly preferably up a slight incline. If it is not smooth, there maybe problems.
I would find the biggest hill you can and try accelerating on it from a stop.
I tested mine on the upramp of an underground carpark in the city. They are often very steep and will show up the problem Gavin has described.
Umai Naa!!
07-06-2012, 12:19 PM
Also check for a shudder, or a jolt as it selects first gear when coming to a stop.
+1
Also reverse very slowly preferably up a slight incline. If it is not smooth, there maybe problems.
Car is parked on a slight decline
When starting the car and putting it into R, my GTI (2008, owned since new) does do a slight CLUNK because the clutch is engaging.
Had this checked out by the dealer a few times + spoke about it on the forum here. There is nothing wrong with this.
I tested mine on the upramp of an underground carpark in the city. They are often very steep and will show up the problem Gavin has described.
What would happen to indicate there is fault?
brimway
07-06-2012, 12:35 PM
Car is parked on a slight decline
When starting the car and putting it into R, my GTI (2008, owned since new) does do a slight CLUNK because the clutch is engaging.
Had this checked out by the dealer a few times + spoke about it on the forum here. There is nothing wrong with this.
No, I mean like a slight "bunny hop" feeling. Hard to describe, but that was alerted me to my DSG problem in a MKV GTI. Ultimatele, the mechatronics was replaced under warranty.
No, I mean like a slight "bunny hop" feeling. Hard to describe, but that was alerted me to my DSG problem in a MKV GTI. Ultimatele, the mechatronics was replaced under warranty.
Oh ok, mine's more of a soft judder - don't think its major lol actually quite used to it. Doesn't happen as hard if the brake is applied properly before..ill re-test tonight.
brimway
07-06-2012, 01:08 PM
Oh ok, mine's more of a soft judder - don't think its major lol actually quite used to it. Doesn't happen as hard if the brake is applied properly before..ill re-test tonight.
Judder is the word I was looking for. Mine started being very mild, barely noticeable but progressively got worse and then the false neutrals started.:mad:
What would happen to indicate there is fault?
The two things Gavin has noted here - as soon as (well, within 50milliseconds maybe) you take your foot off the brake, do you have forward movement? And, when you go to accelerate do you get instant drive or does the engine rev likes it's in neutral for a second.
I would also add to that, do you get a strong shudder when accelerating away as this can suggest a problem.
Should set off rolling, as soon as you come off the brakes, any lag in take off would be wrong. Sounds like you are slipping the clutch, you can feel the engine rev but the drive doesn't come in until much later. Makes parking a chore and hills starts a nightmare.
Gavin
watevs
07-06-2012, 09:37 PM
This has nothing to do with the dsg. But I was wondering what to look out for to see whether the car has been in any major damage. ?
h100vw
08-06-2012, 08:31 AM
This has nothing to do with the dsg. But I was wondering what to look out for to see whether the car has been in any major damage. ?
Paint that doesn't match.
Paint tech is pretty good these days but still usually stands out if it has had some.
If you are concerned about this, get someone to inspect it for you.
Gavin
watevs
08-06-2012, 08:56 AM
does anyone know of anyone or company that can do that for me , around the CHATSWOOD area?
HOw come do they usually cost anyway?
thanks
Paint that doesn't match.
Paint tech is pretty good these days but still usually stands out if it has had some.
If you are concerned about this, get someone to inspect it for you.
Gavin
The two things Gavin has noted here - as soon as (well, within 50milliseconds maybe) you take your foot off the brake, do you have forward movement? And, when you go to accelerate do you get instant drive or does the engine rev likes it's in neutral for a second.
I would also add to that, do you get a strong shudder when accelerating away as this can suggest a problem.
Ah ok I'll give it a try.
AFAIK accelarating in general doesn't cause the car to shudder or bunny hop.
Thanks.
AFAIK accelarating in general doesn't cause the car to shudder or bunny hop.
Also, the other good test I found worked was when driving in stop start traffic, does the gearbox transition from neutral to 1st and 1st to 2nd smoothly on part throttle? If there is any kind of shuddering or slipping as you take off-crawl-stop then there is a problem. Had an A3 loan car and it did it something fierce :emo_baghead:
BarneyBoy
14-06-2012, 12:31 PM
You'll find that there are two distinct behaviours when accelerating from a stop up a slight incline.
If you are hard on the brake pedal, then accelerate away, there'll be a bit of a lag and some snatch as the gearbox engages.
If however, you only apply just enough brake to prevent the car rolling back, you'll find that the car will drive away very smoothly when you accelerate.
I'm now in the habit of easing off the brake as the traffic is ready to go, eliminating what I originally saw as a DSG issue.
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