What oil do you guys use?

[dancet]

I'm planning on changing my oil sometime over the next week or two. I have an oil filter, but I'm stuck on what kind of oil to use. I called my local dealership, and they recommended fully synthetic 15/40 Castrol.

Can anyone recommend any brand/type/rating oil to use? Should I go fully synthetic rather than a synthetic blend? I have a 2001 GTi with a GIAC chip if that makes any difference.

[gpk_gti]

good question,,,,id be interested to see what everyone is using on their mk4 gti.maybe ill sticky this thread when its nearly done.

[BL33SU]

castrol 0w40 coz i couldnt find the mobil 1 fully syn

[ope126]

Motul 8100 X-cess SAE 5W40 100% Synthetic Motor Oil
ACEA: A3/B3/B4
API: SL/CF
APPROVALS: OPEL GM-LL-B-02 / MB 229.3 / VW 502.0-505.00 / PORSCHE (CAYENNE) / BMW LL-98

I have used the Motul in all my cars for the last 5 years. Highly recommended!

Glenn

[99gti]

I'm due for my first oil change in 1000k's. I'll get back to you then!

[Mario]

I'm planning on changing my oil sometime over the next week or two. I have an oil filter, but I'm stuck on what kind of oil to use. I called my local dealership, and they recommended fully synthetic 15/40 Castrol.

Can anyone recommend any brand/type/rating oil to use? Should I go fully synthetic rather than a synthetic blend? I have a 2001 GTi with a GIAC chip if that makes any difference.

Hi.. ive always used Mobil 1 fully syn...(until i drove a diesel).. Having a modern car always use 100% syn... being syn, it doesnt contain the nasty solids that break down the oil.. + no impurities...
Motul is great stuff....but pricey...... and not always easy to find... If you use mobil 1 your getting great oil thats available everywhere...
ie: if your oil is ever low....any mobil servo will have 1 litre bottles to top you up....
or get the pricey stuff and keep some in the boot.....
...... But dont go "cheap" on your oil!!.. you have invested in a great car.. Help keep her healthy..
...p.s.... pick an oil and try to stick with it... Dont chop and change with each oil change..... not good....
mario...

[dancet]

Awesome, thanks for the info guys. I'll let you know how I get on.

[SoVeReIgN]

Mobil 1 5w-50.

Will be changing to royal purple if I can find a supplier though

[Soundofav6]

Currently mobil 1
I had that in my old bommy holden as well... OMG felt like a .. perhaps .. R32 killer...
you know what I mean, well. big difference it made. But seriously couldn't feel the equvalent smoothness in the golf, I would keep using it though.

I think 3 times I have bought it, always the last bottle in kmart/ supercheap and on discount. Consider me lucky

[gpk_gti]

Mobil 1 5w-50.


yep,,,,me to! changed it yesterday!

[mikinoz]

Added to the FAQ thread.

In my MKIV, I am pretty sure that GTIMKV used Fuchs oil in it, but I am not too sure what grade.

My short addition to this is that if you are running a thin oil and the car is also running rich, you should be careful as fuel can make it past the rings and end up thining out the oil prematurely as well as damage the oil filter making it become more brittle and less effective.

[DIDZ]

I've used Shell Helix Ultra in my cars and I haven't had a problem.

I am looking at using the elf Excellium GP 5W-40 for my next change. It's VW approved as well, so I'll see how that goes for the next two changes, as there will be some mileage coming up soon in ;)

[sim2002]

i drive a V6 bora but using Fuchs 10W-40 full synthetic
when i drove turbo car used Mobil 1 5W-50 always worked well! (about six years) was sluggish on turbo but ok! Motul 10W-50(40) good too(bit thinner)

[gpk_gti]

make sure you guys change your oil frequently!!! otherwise this can happen!!!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/08/250507_1332-2.jpg

[qsilverza]

I have bought the following,

MOTUL 4100 Turbolight
10W-40 Synthetic API: SL / CF
5Liter

It's a semy-synth, is that ok or should I go with

MOTUL 8100
5W-40 100% synthetic API: SL / CF
5Liter

Also I got a MANN filter from HSY parts in Sth Melbourne, are they ok ?

[Jimgti]

Mobil 1 Full Synth OW-40...it's a bit pricey though $100 bucks at Repco

[gtimk5]

I use Fuchs Super GTO 10W30 MC in all of the late model Golfs here. It matches the VW oil codes and none of my customers have any problems with oil usage. I am currently servicing around 35 TDi Golfs and Polos, and approximately 12 GTIs
This is NOT the longlife stuff!
Andrew :)

[torque]

You don't need 0w-xx, that is for countries with sub-zero temperatures... 5w or even 10w is OK for Australia. That money can be saved and spent on something else like beer :)

[BL33SU]

how many litres of oil am i supposed to pour into the 1.8t engine? the book says 3.5l i think but i'v read its about 4 or so.

[DIDZ]

Mobil 1 Full Synth OW-40...it's a bit pricey though $100 bucks at Repco

What the ?!?

They don't call Repco, Rip Every Poor Carnt Off for nothing.... :confused:

[gtimk5]

Bout 4.5 litres with a filter change. :)

[VW Convert]

how many litres of oil am i supposed to pour into the 1.8t engine? the book says 3.5l i think but i'v read its about 4 or so.


;) i reuse the oils in cusomers cars tell em its new j:

Are you using the same oil you sell to your customers?

Just fill it up until it overflows, it'll be right! j: j:

(Tongue firmly in cheek)

Cheers

George

[BL33SU]

hahaha thanks

[ope126]

how many litres of oil am i supposed to pour into the 1.8t engine? the book says 3.5l i think but i'v read its about 4 or so.

Engine oil capacities
With filter change...4.5L

VW OEM Part Numbers;
06A115561B - Oil Filter
N90813202 - Sump Plug w/Washer

[Langers]

I use Fuchs Super GTO 10W30 MC in all of the late model Golfs here. It matches the VW oil codes and none of my customers have any problems with oil usage. I am currently servicing around 35 TDi Golfs and Polos, and approximately 12 GTIs
This is NOT the longlife stuff!
Andrew :)

Andrew,

I assume you wouldn't be using this on an R32 given the high oil temps they achieve?

[No457 Snowy]

I picked up a 20 Litre drum of this from the Castrol distributor. It was $170 for the drum ($8.50 per litre).

http://www.tds.castrol.com.au/pdf/3040_txt_softec_ll01_b1567_02.pdf


Snowy. :)

[The_Hawk]

I am using this Fuchs oil in my Mk3 VR6:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/10/IMG_5613-1.jpg

Convieniently the VR6 takes 5L of oil, so you buy one, drain the old oil, replace the filter and washer, tip the whole bottle in, then pour the used oil into the new container for disposal, nice and simple :D

[wu4evers]

I use 'Motul chrono 10w40'
It's awesome
feel like different car!

[FknDubbin]

ELF Excellium 10w40.

[D3bb4]

I used fuch's 10w-40 in my 2l mk4 as well... felt so much smoother after the change. Might try shell helix ultra but - fully synthetic and seemingly highly recommended.

[fuzz]

i've use Neo in my bikes so i may give that a go next change, the first change was done by the mechanic when i serviced it. I think he used half synthetic. I usually use fully synthetic first change or when i'm running in an engine.

but yeah i'll give the Neo a go next time, not sure on the weight yet:

http://www.neosyn.com.au/neo/

fuzz

[SoVeReIgN]

Anyone had an experience with Royle Purple oils?

I'm keen to upgrade to something abit better than the Mobil 1 I've been using and I've heard good things about Royal Purple (Although it is damn expensive)

[fuzz]

Anyone had an experience with Royle Purple oils?

I'm keen to upgrade to something abit better than the Mobil 1 I've been using and I've heard good things about Royal Purple (Although it is damn expensive)

if you want something more expensive try the NEO oils above!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/01/neo2-1.jpg

[SoVeReIgN]

Royal Purple is alot more expensive than that. :O

However, my local(ish) hardware store carries their full range and I like being able to just pop down and pick up a bottle should I need it rather than order over the internet.

Cheers,
Dave

[fuzz]

Royal Purple is alot more expensive than that. :O

However, my local(ish) hardware store carries their full range and I like being able to just pop down and pick up a bottle should I need it rather than order over the internet.

Cheers,
Dave

damn, must be expensive...


i say give it a go and see how it is

[silverdovegti]

hey,

i just sent my mk4 gti (stock) for a service at my local dealer and found out that they use mobil 10w40 semi-synthetic oil on the car. apparently fully synthetic oil is too thin for the 1.8T engine? any truth in this? from this thread it sounds like fully synthetic is the best? appreciate your thoughts on the matter! thanks!

[SoVeReIgN]

hey,

i just sent my mk4 gti (stock) for a service at my local dealer and found out that they use mobil 10w40 semi-synthetic oil on the car. apparently fully synthetic oil is too thin for the 1.8T engine? any truth in this? from this thread it sounds like fully synthetic is the best? appreciate your thoughts on the matter! thanks!

lol rubbish - VW use and recommend fully synthetic - Sounds like they just wanted to save a few dollars!

[silverdovegti]

evidently the dealers are not then. ****s me. is there something official (ie anything on the vw print/website) that i can refer the dealer to which says that fully synthetic oil is recommended for the car and thus should be used instead of the semi-synthetic sludge they're putting in my car? can i make them replace the oil now? this is the last time i service with dealers!!!

[No457 Snowy]

This is the oil they used in my last VW dealer service. I picked up a 20 Litre drum of it for "in-between" oil changes.

http://www.tds.castrol.com.au/pdf/3040_txt_softec_ll01_b1567_02.pdf



Snowy :)

[patullose]

does anyone ever take there car too be served by the dealer?

[Valver.]

Motul 300v 15/50 Competition in winter and 300v 20/60 LeMans in summer :)

[dus69s]

Anyone had an experience with Royle Purple oils?

I'm keen to upgrade to something abit better than the Mobil 1 I've been using and I've heard good things about Royal Purple (Although it is damn expensive)

I use Royle Purple 10w40 and change every 10,000ks instead of Mobil 1 every 5,000ks since after reading Street Commodores oil test. Mobil 1 rated very poor.

Check out this site http://www.belgarage.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=37&Itemid=75

[JET-28L]

mobil synth s 10w-40 goes harder and smoother

[FarQ]

Shell Helix Ultra 5-40w FTW! I stock up when its on sale :)

[MattyT]

Penrite SiN 15 15w-50, australian made and revs cleanly to redline :driver:

[McDub]

castrol 5W-30 Edge for the gti.
though can't see anyone else here using it, maybe i should try something better/different?

[arek_p]

Also using Castrol Edge 5W-30 in my V6 Bora 2003: compatible with VW 504.00 and VW 507.00
But I wonder if an older engine (over 200k km) needs a different oil?

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/03/upload_20191125_817png11548-1.jpg

[Lucas_R]

With a higher mileage engine you might want to consider a 5w-40 or 5w-50 oil so its thicker when hot.

If you do regular oil changes with a good quality oil then you wont need to be concerned with sludge buildup - that really only happens on poorly maintained vehicles that do not get regular maintenance.

I used to use this in my Mk6 GTI as it consumed a small amount of oil, and I found the oil consumption reduced somewhat from moving to the 5w-40 oil. This one is VW502/505 approved. Penrite Enviro+ Engine Oil - 5W-40 5 Litre | Supercheap Auto (https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/penrite-penrite-enviro-engine-oil---5w-40-5-litre/324403.html)

[beale187]

With a higher mileage engine you might want to consider a 5w-40 or 5w-50 oil so its thicker when hot.

If you do regular oil changes with a good quality oil then you wont need to be concerned with sludge buildup - that really only happens on poorly maintained vehicles that do not get regular maintenance.

I used to use this in my Mk6 GTI as it consumed a small amount of oil, and I found the oil consumption reduced somewhat from moving to the 5w-40 oil. This one is VW502/505 approved. Penrite Enviro+ Engine Oil - 5W-40 5 Litre | Supercheap Auto (https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/penrite-penrite-enviro-engine-oil---5w-40-5-litre/324403.html)

I've always used Nulon Euro 5w-30, Nulon "were" AU owned and operated. Plus their 5w-30 Euro oil was VW approved for 504.00 spec.

HOWEVER... Nulon sold out to Fuchs.
It appears their 5w-30 European oil is now also used for 507.00 diesel engines. Whether they changed the oil to meet the spec or it's just a marketing ploy I'm unsure.

But I have recently decided I might start running something a little thicker as the motor is getting on in age.
So something in a 5w40 might be the go

[Lucas_R]

I've always used Nulon Euro 5w-30, Nulon "were" AU owned and operated. Plus their 5w-30 Euro oil was VW approved for 504.00 spec.

HOWEVER... Nulon sold out to Fuchs.
It appears their 5w-30 European oil is now also used for 507.00 diesel engines. Whether they changed the oil to meet the spec or it's just a marketing ploy I'm unsure.

But I have recently decided I might start running something a little thicker as the motor is getting on in age.
So something in a 5w40 might be the go

I used the Penrite Enviro+ for quite a few years without any issues, but have recently switched over to the Nulon Euro 5w-30 on both my VAG cars as apparently it is a better quality base stock oil. Every oil that meets 502 (petrol) also meets the 505 (diesel) approval, and likewise, any oil that meets 504 (petrol) also meets the 507 (diesel) equivalent. I don't think ive ever seen an oil meet just one of the specs.

I was not aware that Nulon was no longer an Aussie owned company - so that's a bit of a shame if they have been bought out by a European brand - but in saying that, Fuchs are one of the best in the business so it cant be all bad.

I just popped out to the garage to check my bottles of Nulon oil (some of which I only purchased in the past 4-6 weeks) and they all still say Made in Australia on them.......

[beale187]

I used the Penrite Enviro+ for quite a few years without any issues, but have recently switched over to the Nulon Euro 5w-30 on both my VAG cars as apparently it is a better quality base stock oil. Every oil that meets 502 (petrol) also meets the 505 (diesel) approval, and likewise, any oil that meets 504 (petrol) also meets the 507 (diesel) equivalent. I don't think ive ever seen an oil meet just one of the specs.

I was not aware that Nulon was no longer an Aussie owned company - so that's a bit of a shame if they have been bought out by a European brand - but in saying that, Fuchs are one of the best in the business so it cant be all bad.

I just popped out to the garage to check my bottles of Nulon oil (some of which I only purchased in the past 4-6 weeks) and they all still say Made in Australia on them.......

Nulon is still made here (production was moved from Moorebank NSW to Fuchs plants in Sunshine VIC and Beresford NSW) just no longer AU owned. + Nulon will now benefit from Fuchs knowledge so in many ways it's still a good thing.

Good to know about the standards, I've been using Nulon 5w-30 Euro for a long time but it's only been in recent years that they've added the "diesel" bit to the labels, so it's probably just a marketing thing. Also I've never had an issue with it, it's been perfect.
Was only considering the swap because like you mentioned the donk is getting on in age and thought it might be time to running something a bit thicker. I'll take a look at the Penrite. Cheers mate

[beale187]

Side note, I also use the Nulon "Red Type" G12+ coolant in my Bora. Meets the specs, doesn't stain or corrode the plastic either.

Besides constant coolant leaks, never had a issue.

[kendog]

Penrite HPR 5

[lloydus67]

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2023/05/a656dea01abb311910698b53b2787fb6-1.jpg
If anyone actually wants 5w30 synthetic, autobarn has gone bonkers and will sell you 10litres for $60. My local had sold out, but I got supercheap to price match


Sent from me [emoji2957]

[Manaz]

Penrite HPR 5

I've used Penrite for years now (including in my Bora V6 4Motion when I had it, along with Subarus and the Kia Stinger GT I had for a few years) and have never had an issue with it. I've done oil tests, etc with it and it's always just performed. About to start using their 0W-20 Eco oil in my A4 (it's their certified oil for Audi).