1.4 118kW v 1.8 118kW

[Skoda]

Hi all,

Just wondering what people think about the 1.4 Twincharged 118kW enigines in the Jetta/golf compared to the 1.8TSI 118kW engines in the Passat/Octavia.

I was thinking that that the 1.4 might be smoother down low but might have to work harder and may not have the longevity.

Cheers

[gldgti]

in the sydney mod section, The_Hawk has just posted his dyno plet from today with a 1.4TSI.http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f21/sydney-dyno-day-29th-april-2012-a-68365-4.html

I would be fairly surprised if the 1.4 is smoother than the 1.8 - the nature of its makeup means that it requires boost to make torque, and that means a lot of technology has to work perfectly to get it to deliver smooth power.


As a comparison, heres a dyno plot (same shop, very similar weather) from my old mk3 turbo diesel -
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/04/dyno_april_11-1.jpg quite similar numbers and rev-range to the 1.4, but see how my old diesel with greater displacement, only 2 valves per cylinder, sizeable turbocharger and mechanical fuel pump makes a much smoother torque curve because there are fewer feedback loops interacting with eachother (very simplistically). (just FIY, the 2 curves are so different because I increased fuelling after the first run)

Definately the 1.4 has to work harder... not necessarily is that a bad thing though.

[Diesel_vert]

I was thinking that that the 1.4 might be smoother down low but might have to work harder and may not have the longevity.

I don't think it matters on a practicable level, and if you intend to do the sorts of mileages where it will matter, you'd be better off with the TDI anyway.

[Ryan_R]

Get an ECU software update (i.e. APR Stage 1) and the 1.4L is a very fun little racing car to drive. :)

0-100kph comes in about 6.8 seconds compared to 8.0 stock, similar to the GTI.

[gldgti]

Probably the 1.4 is more economical than the 1.8 on the highway?


Get an ECU software update (i.e. APR Stage 1) and the 1.4L is a very fun little racing car to drive. :)

0-100kph comes in about 6.8 seconds compared to 8.0 stock, similar to the GTI.

[Ryan_R]

I average 6.9l/100 although I don't drive like an old lady ;)

3-4 on the freeway (cruise control).

[Skoda]

Thanks for your thoughts.

I know the torque for the 1.8lt TSI is 250, does anyone know what the 1.4lt is?

[Ryan_R]

240 stock, 320 with APR Stage 1 ECU software upgrade