Amarok Pricing and Specs are out!!

[flyingfridge]

I have Amarok pricing and final specs, bear with me I'll put it up in a sec.

I was right about the Amarok Ultimate too :)


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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/51431/2011-volkswagen-amarok-launched-in-australia

These are Manufacturers List Prices and are not drive away - talk to your dealer to find out drive away prices in your state

[Sharkie]

Good, thanks,

What is in the Ultimate ? Compared to the Highline ?

And specs?

[flyingfridge]

Ultimate adds Leather, 19"s, sports bars, side steps and is optional 4x4 or Permanent 4Motion. Highline and Trendline are 4x4 only.

[Sharkie]

Can I have 1 of the 400KW 2WD ones please ......:P .....

And is permanent 4Motion, Torsen diff or Haldex?

[phaeton]

Looks like I'll be waiting for a used Amarok Trendline - 47990 + onroads + tax etc not happy with pricing VW.


Can I have 1 of the 400KW 2WD ones please ......:P .....

And is permanent 4Motion, Torsen diff or Haldex?

Torsen diff ;)

Press Release http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/content/amarok-australian-debut-most-fuel-efficient-ute-its-class-123/

[2dr Evangalist]

Fleet discount is ?????

[flyingfridge]

only RRPs have been announced. Fleet discount won't be published anyway, you'll need to talk to your dealer to find that out.

[Boothiness]

Flying Fridge, I think there is an error on the pricing (400kw 2WD) I don't think they are bringing out such a car.

[Pepe]

So $65k for a ute? Other than a Maloo, is there anything else that exxy?

[Matt05x]

I just had a quick look through the Amarok document on the home page & they show the Highline with an RNS510. I guess that means it's standard on the Highline? Anyone know for sure?

[tassie_euro_mk1]

mmm. Im very interested in how the Amaroks sell down here in Tassie. I work at a Mazda and Mitsubishi sales and service dealership as a mechanic here in Devonport, and $40,000 gets you a nice Triton GLXR or even better still (in my opinion) Mazda BT50. The BT50's have been so very popular down here its nuts! Not to mention they are bringing the next series....a 5 cylinder diesel! They are a quality, powerful car. I love my VW's but geez this is going to be a tough market for them to win customers over.

[Jmac]

Ill wait till the Touareg TDi engine goes in the Rok, im sure itll fry the competition then, cmon VW itll fit no probs!!!
Jmac

[csiorange]

Sam what stock have you got coming in and when? and why would I buy an Amarok over a Triton or Mazda/Ford ????

[gavs]

So $65k for a ute? Other than a Maloo, is there anything else that exxy?

Hilux sr5 diesel, new v6 diesel navara off the top of my head...

[gavs]

Another thing to note is that the Ultimate model is at that price, the highine is the true match for the current crop of (crap in my opinion) dual cabs out there. No other dual cab offers you 19" wheels or leather as an option, let alone as standard kit so realistically, sources were correct in a $7k cheaper price point...

[flyingfridge]

After thinking about the prices and specs over night, it occurred to me that it's actually the Trendline (47,990 +OR) that compares most closely to the SR5 (52,490 +OR) on paper and that both the Highline and Ultimate are two models that move utes upmarket.

After giving it thought I'm very happy with the pricing indeed :)


Sam what stock have you got coming in and when? and why would I buy an Amarok over a Triton or Mazda/Ford ????

We have heaps of cars coming, mostly Trendlines and Highlines. We know there will be a shortage of Ultimates but we haven't seen our allocation of those yet. Not sure exactly when we're getting them, the crazy part is we generally don't know exactly until they actually arrive in the dealership. I'm going away on training for it next week but training runs for two weeks and they generally try to do that before cars arrive. Unless they decide to overlap this time, the press release says the actual release is March 1, which is the first I've heard of that!

You'd buy it over the Mazda or Ford for the same reasons you buy a Golf over a Mazda 3/Ford Focus. Quality, the driving and handling, refinement and safety, it's the first 5 star rated dual cab ute - no other ute is finished as nicely as the rok

[Matt05x]

Ill wait till the Touareg TDi engine goes in the Rok, im sure itll fry the competition then, cmon VW itll fit no probs!!!
Jmac

I keep hearing people say this, which is understandable. However just like when we used to say "you can't really tow anything without a V8 or a big 6", now people have to wrap their head around a very capable & competent 2 litre performing as well as a less efficient 3 litre. The big thing for me is an Amarok with a Touareg engine would probably be $75k. Europeans don't hand out big engines for free. I agree it would be awesome, however, a much lower price is also very attractive. How long do you wait? It may be 2013, it may never come. Anyway let's just drive one first, I personally can't wait.

[Seano]

Holy cow......I thought they were going to be priced competitively? Competitive to what? That's top shelf every step of the way. Not even trying to be a class leader....nearly all the others come in under the 2wd price.....as for $Motion....ten grand extra for the 'luxury' of a rear diff!! Truck that.

So VW are obviously not serious about trying to sell more than a few. No surprise but still a shame.

So no Amarok for me. If I had that sort of cash I'd still get a T5 DOKA 4Motion instead....except that I don't. And probably never will.

[Sumodog68]

It was always going to be expensive. It is recreational ute not a workhorse and it carries VW badge.
Some good utes are soon to be released - ranger bt 50 twin and hilux facelift ...

[gavs]

[QUOTE=Seano;626993]Holy cow......I thought they were going to be priced competitively? Competitive to what? That's top shelf every step of the way. Not even trying to be a class leader....nearly all the others come in under the 2wd price.....as for $Motion....ten grand extra for the 'luxury' of a rear diff!! Truck that.

So VW are obviously not serious about trying to sell more than a few. No surprise but still a shame.[QUOTE]

Ok, just to clarify, I agree with Sam that having all current varient bar a BT-50 on site, the Trendline is closest in spec to all the others, which is priced at $47,990 + ONC

Comparison?
Hilux SR5 TD Man: $53,690 +ONC
Narara ST-X 4x4 TD Man: $ 54,989 INC ONC
Triton GLX-R 4x4 TD Man: $ 44,990 +ONC

The fact that there is also the Highline and Ultimate above the trendline, I would say that VW have actually been very clever in their pricing. If you buy an ultimate amarok, you really will get something that none of the competitors can offer. Even when the T6 Ranger hits, ford were so paranoid about the Amarok (apart from the rubbish comments about towing) that they delayed the launch by (now) 18 months and as I believe after a discussion with an engineer, are still revising the rear suspension design.

THAT BEING SAID:

VW have been stupidly arrogant with the amarok design. They have clearly approached the car with an attitude of "...we can make our car better than others, what need will there be for accessories. VW customers won't put accessories on our cars, our cars are too good for that...".
Examples? Boxing in the entire rear corner of the tub, surrounding the tail light with sheet metal. Narrow and angled landings on the tub, ridiculous sized hols in the front corners of the tub, non removable crash beams on the front of the chassis, split clevis designs for front struts, welding the crownwheel in the front diff, creating their own sized eyelet bushes on the rear leaf springs and my favourite, using bloody triple-square drive cap screws everywhere!!

Next itteration will be interesting to see if they embrace customers better, realising peopl buy these cars to put accessories on them.

[Sharkie]

It is not referring to 400 kW, I would imagine that it is referring to 400 nM of Torque, as in all Commercial Vehicle badge designations these days...

Caddy 250 TDI
Caddy 320 TDI

Etc etc

I know ..... read it as a misprint .... was way too much to hope for to have a 400kw Amarok ..... which incidentally I would buy if it was real ....

[flyingfridge]

I know ..... read it as a misprint .... was way too much to hope for to have a 400kw Amarok ..... which incidentally I would buy if it was real ....

mmm Amarok R with Audi RS5 motor would be nice..... I would buy that too

ah we can dream :cool:

[phaeton]

Sorry not buying Trendline is equivalent to SR5 - I believe, comparing specs its closer to SR visually and spec wise.

As for people buying the Amarok over the comp due to quality that is yet to be proven yet the other mainstream brands have history while VW is new to this class - VW should have priced it better IMO.

[flyingfridge]

go through the spec sheets phaeton.

SR5 only has these things over Trendline

Bluetooth (optional on Trendline)
17" Alloys ($990 on Trendline)
Steering Wheel Audio Controls (Not available on any Amarok)
6 Stacker CD (Not available on Amarok but MDI Optional)

So when you option them equally, the Trendline is still around $3k ahead.... (and gains semi auto climate control not available on Hilux)

[2dr Evangalist]

To be honest I was a little disappointed with pricing, have requested quotes (on a Highline) via my lease providers so will be interesting to see what Fleet discount I get.
Have really been trawling the spec sheets, and agree with some of the comments re Trendline v SR5, BUT.......
have realised that there is NO cruise control........ wtf?????
Will likely also request a quote on a Trendline with arch extensions and 18"s
Cheers

[flyingfridge]

Cruise control is standard on all but Base Amarok :)

[phaeton]

go through the spec sheets phaeton.

SR5 only has these things over Trendline

Bluetooth (optional on Trendline)
17" Alloys ($990 on Trendline)
Steering Wheel Audio Controls (Not available on any Amarok)
6 Stacker CD (Not available on Amarok but MDI Optional)

So when you option them equally, the Trendline is still around $3k ahead.... (and gains semi auto climate control not available on Hilux)

Not that I care but Trendline does not have chrome rear bumpers which visually give the Hilux more street cred.

What are the differences between the STX which sells for $38,888 driveaway and Trendline ?

BTW I'm not tryng to put the Amarok down just understand why VW have priced it higher than what I was expecting - I guess the main aim was to below Hilux which they achieved and I knew they would be priced highly compared to competitors not this high though.

[2dr Evangalist]

Cruise control is standard on all but Base Amarok :)
Pleased to hear that Sam, but please direct me to where that is listed on the spec sheet?
I specifically went looking for it because I couldnt recall seeing cruise controls when I sat in one recently
Cheers

[Peter Jones]

Pleased to hear that Sam, but please direct me to where that is listed on the spec sheet?
I specifically went looking for it because I couldnt recall seeing cruise controls when I sat in one recently
Cheers

In the section titled convenience.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/01/Image6-1.jpg

[csiorange]

I don't think the competition prices are even close to market prices the triton GLX-R is selling for 37K with the works, VW may have a great package but may have missed the mark in regard to correct pricing:banana:

[Jake02]

I really do love the Amarok and I'm thinking an Ultimate 4Motion in white with black leather would be a nice replacement to my current white beast. For me, the Highline presents the best value - yes it's $54k but it offers a lot of stuff, especially stuff over the only-$900 cheaper HiLux SR5 (climate control, bigger wheels, 5-star NCAP and actual class) and cheaper Triton GLX-R (but you have to add the premium pack to make it classier and almost to the Amarok's level). I feel that the Ultimate presents massive value over the Navara 3.0 diesel (engine is better at pulling but a standard 7-speed auto and that it's a Renault engine put me off) with standard leather, 19s and the like.

Things I'd like to see over the years:
- Non halogen headlamps (the projector halogens in my RS are fabulous in range).
- Cornering foglamps.
- Electric-folding mirrors (I'm sure you could get this aftermarket as the mirrors are basically Touareg/Q5/Q7 mirrors).
- MDI (it's optional isn't it? Should be standard as well as Bluetooth).
- Rear armrest.

But otherwise, I'd tap that! I'd also like to see other VW Group members take on the Amarok... The Czechs with their specialisation in engineering and practicality, I feel would do it even better. A Skoda ute would be cheaper too.

[Tornado T5]

Is it true the future auto version will use a conventional torque converter 8 speed ZF?

edit: just received the lateset GoAuto newsletter with the following claim:

GoAuto has learned the latter will not be
a dual-clutch automated manual DSG unit,
which was deemed unsuitable for low-speed
load-carrying or hill-climbing work, but a
conventional eight-speed torque converter
auto from ZF, constituting yet another
unique feature in the ute segment.

[tobyobi]

Is it true the future auto version will use a conventional torque converter 8 speed ZF?

edit: just received the lateset GoAuto newsletter with the following claim:
It wouldn't be the first place I've heard such a claim.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f130/my11-amarok-australian-specifications-54586-2.html#post615958

[Seano]

Glad I'm not the only one sensing pricing and specification fail here.

I just can't help thinking that VW are just targeting an audience they already own - Golf and Passat drivers who would love to drive a 'tough truck' and can't seem themselves in a Tiguan or Touareg. People already accepting of the brand, their engineering and their quirks.....not too many of those amongst the Great Unwashed.

What they need to do to sell a few is convince fleet buyers and current Jap (OK Thai) ute owners that VW have a better product at a better price. They may have a better product except that it is different to everything else available on the market (4 cyl twin turbo), a completely new design (even the engine) and it is priced similarly to the already expensive market leader (but one that has a long and tightly held reputation for quality and reliability - at least in the fleet market).

Honestly.....I was seriously considering an Amarok as a replacement for our T4 dual cab. Something a little smaller and more off road capable while maintaining a respectable load carrying ability. But frankly VW have fallen into exactly the same greedy trap as almost every other manufacturer by pricing these toys poorly against other model options in their range.

Tiguan $37K
Passat wagon $37K
Transporter DC $45K

Except VW have been doubly dim because they have another roomier, much larger and similarly featured dual cab in their range with a more powerful engine of the same type.....and there's a relatively insignificant pricing differential between them.

Oh I'm sure they'll sell and they'll probably outsell the other commercial vehicles......but I still say that it'll take sometime...quite sometime before the Amarok is anything but a niche (dare I say oddity) model in the dual cab market.

[Tornado T5]

And the discussions I've been privy to re fleet managers shown the new T6 Ranger is that it is a big step up over all current offerings including passive safety, rear seating in dual cabs etc so the competition is not just going to be the expensive Hilux models. Thai sourcing/pricing due to FTA will mean specs can be high.

[phaeton]

T6 Ranger/BT50 will undoubtbly be better priced and featured when it hits the market, only issue is its bigger than the Amarok, to big if you ask me.

[Peter Jones]

Somewhat sadly, I'm going to say that waiting for runout stock deals for the current model Mazda 4x4 BT50 Dual cab SDX would be my pick over the Amarok if I had to go out and buy a ute soon.

Fully optioned up they're in the $40K ballpark driveaway pricing.

Amarok has slightly better numbers performance wise but the Mazda can tow and carry more. (and has the 'conventional' engine approach.)

I've driven a 2wd BT50 and found the cabin fit out quite acceptable. It's a car I could certainly live with.

I'd love an Amarok one day, if they'd come in closer to $40K for a Trendline I might have been able to scape up the funds, but at $47 + on roads I'll sit this round out thanks.

I do like the Amarok more but I'm struggling to see the value.

[phaeton]

I'd love an Amarok one day, if they'd come in closer to $40K for a Trendline I might have been able to scape up the funds, but at $47 + on roads I'll sit this round out thanks.

I do like the Amarok more but I'm struggling to see the value.

x2 I was expecting at the most 43K+ onroads etc but $47k is really killing its potential.

[roscoe21]

Flyingfridge......how is it that you have this pricing? I asked my dealer who I have a order with , and they had absolutely no idea about the pricing at all. They said, they will only be issued with pricing as of the 24 feb.....

[flyingfridge]

It's in the press roscoe - it usually gets published by the press before it's communicated to dealers. I'm pretty sure The Motor Report was first to publish it on Monday afternoon.

[m3103]

I'm sorry guys but I think a lot of you arent thinking the whole pricing issue through.
As stated already the trendline model Rok is the same spec as an sr5 hilux which is the leader in it's class. My dad has owned sr5 for the past 4years and I must say they are very good cars. Never once had a problem with them. I'm a big fan.
Some of you are saying what about the triton and bt-50? I can't speak for the bt-50, but the triton I've found to be the case of "it's cheaper for a reason". The hilux is a far superior Product.
If the vw golf is anything to go by, then the amarok should be a cut above the rest in quality and that alone will attract a large number of people.
Oh and the current hilux sr5's go for closer to 60k these days so the ultimate really is the option of choice IMO.

[csiorange]

Whats the go with no steering controls on the Rok not even as an option??

Can you fit a steering wheel from another model, is there a wiring loom????

This could be sale killer

:banana:

Not that I care but Trendline does not have chrome rear bumpers which visually give the Hilux more street cred.

What are the differences between the STX which sells for $38,888 driveaway and Trendline ?

BTW I'm not tryng to put the Amarok down just understand why VW have priced it higher than what I was expecting - I guess the main aim was to below Hilux which they achieved and I knew they would be priced highly compared to competitors not this high though.

[sh|tbmxrider]

Why, the massive amount of effort in moving your hand 8 inches to the radio?

D-Max & Colorado still sell and don't have it