Eibach coils advertised at $295 AUD

[beefa]

Hey all,

Eibach coils advertised on special $295 AUD
http://www.carshine.com.au/index.htm?http://www.carshine.com.au/VW%20Polo%206N%20Styling.htm

Reduced from $560 to $295 ... !!

[shaneth]

mate i think they may be for 6n. Not sure if they are the same for both versions as we have 9n3 (im sure you already new that :P) Hopefully someone would be able to let us know the difference.

[beefa]

Oohh didnt notice that they were for the 6n.... :)

Got this reply from the site:
Hi Ben,
Sorry but please advise me where we are advertising Eibach springs for $295.00 ????
Polo Gti springs will cost $595.00 plus

Regards
Gary Barker
Car Shine P/L

[shaneth]

ah well. it was nice while it lasted. I was wishing it were true. j:

[gpk_gti]

funny,,was talking to milna ages ago about the 6n and he said he only ever sold one set of coilovers for that car in all of these years!! hahaha

[mitch_gti]

Almost had a heart attack when i read the title of this thread you bastard.


Seeing as two weeks ago i picked my eibachs up for 575.


On this topic, they are fantastic springs. drops the car a little bit, rides very comfortably and has more roll resistance through corners:D

[shaneth]

mitch whats the comfort factor like compared to stock. Do you have pics?

[mitch_gti]

To be quite honest the car rode pretty firmly as standard.

I dont think it has made it any more comfortable or uncomfortable than standard.

Pictures will come tommorow, washing car after work. then pictures :)

[Spec83]

Is there any problems with lowering a polo and the shocks developing issues due to being lowered (e.g. early wear, "blowing out" etc...)

I do note the standard shocks are sachs so should be ok i am thinking... let me know cause i am keen to get some eibachs in :)

[mitch_gti]

Yes there are problems involved in lowering the GTI.


When you lower the GTI the standard front swaybar knocks on the drive shafts over bumps. Which has marked the drive shafts and overtime could cause damage, plus its a VERY loud knocking noise.

So, if you want to lower the GTI you have to get a whiteline adjustable front swaybar because it has a different position setting which pulls the swaybar up which creates more clearance over the drive shafts.

Problem is changing the front swaybar is NOT an easy task.

To change it you have to undo and lower the whole front suspension subframe whilst you have engine supports (obviously this needs the use of a hoist)

Then you will need an alignment. So the true cost of lowering is probably $1200 including fitting.

[MACCAA]

I have Eibach Pro Kit springs fitted to my car.No problems whatsoever-nothing rubs or touches anywhere-even at the track.All cars are different,but I'm just reporting what happened with my car.

[Flaps]

Yes there are problems involved in lowering the GTI.


When you lower the GTI the standard front swaybar knocks on the drive shafts over bumps. Which has marked the drive shafts and overtime could cause damage, plus its a VERY loud knocking noise.

So, if you want to lower the GTI you have to get a whiteline adjustable front swaybar because it has a different position setting which pulls the swaybar up which creates more clearance over the drive shafts.

Problem is changing the front swaybar is NOT an easy task.

To change it you have to undo and lower the whole front suspension subframe whilst you have engine supports (obviously this needs the use of a hoist)

Then you will need an alignment. So the true cost of lowering is probably $1200 including fitting.

I just put in coilovers sitting at 25mm lower and its fine. This rubbing issue was a common occurance with the MK4 GTI i believe.

[Timbo]

Mitch, sounds to me like you might want to check your install :?

[Guy_H]

On our car with about 20 mm drop - no rubbing - when our original coil overs sagged to about 30mm they rubbed - seems like a fine line between clearance & none!

maybe cars with red paint & sunroof are heavier & sit lower j:

[fuzion]

On our car with about 20 mm drop - no rubbing - when our original coil overs sagged to about 30mm they rubbed - seems like a fine line between clearance & none!

maybe cars with red paint & sunroof are heavier & sit lower j:

funny you say that, someone put the weitec 30/30s in and he had no problem with rubbing at all .. bit odd!

[Guy_H]

funny you say that, someone put the weitec 30/30s in and he had no problem with rubbing at all .. bit odd!


Thats why I mentioned it - you also have two polo's in this thread running identical springs - one rubs - one does not - hence the comment - our was easy fixed by upping the ride height 10mm - unfortunately with springs its hard to do.

[MACCAA]

Mine's a lightweight 'poverty pack'=cloth and no options.Maybe driver weight comes into it too....

[Guy_H]

Took a couple of pics of the front swaybar & suspension. (these are on full droop on the hoist)

Purpose is to try to help people visualise the clearance problems between swaybar / driveshaft.

Since we removed the KW V3's & have gone to the PSS9's you can see clearance is not an issue as they supply a revised swaybar link that pulls the swaybar up & away from the driveshaft. I couldnt get a good pic of the rubbing we experienced with the old coilovers when they drooped, but if you can imagine its right at the top of the swaybar loop.

I'm not sure why, but Bilstein chose to include them in the kit & KW didn't.

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/P5170002.jpg

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/P5170003.jpg

I'll try to get a couple of pics loaded up as well!

[Guy_H]

Here's some better pics for reference: Before & after - you can see the differences in swaybar position, so it should help those with a rubbing issue!

The shorter links are the shiny ones on the bilsteins:

Before:

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20052.jpg

Afterhttp://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/P5170004.jpg

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/P5170007.jpg

other pics of different coilovers just for reference:

Rear diameter:

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20062.jpg

Rear height:

[Guy_H]

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20061.jpg

Front strut assy:

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20059.jpg

front spring setup:

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20058.jpg

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20057.jpg

[gtidre]

Nice post Guy, if you look at the Bilstein you sell, you will note that the bracket for the sway bar links sits lower than the bracket on KW hence they need the shorter sway bar links. KW's have been tested (with maximum axle loads and TUV certification) to as much as 40mm lowering on the front and 45mm in the rear. We have a customer on maximum lowering with no rubbing issues whatsoever. Other customers on 30mm lowering also have no rubbing issues.

Dragan

[fuzion]

something i noticed you should take a close look at.....

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2887/guysucksgv1.jpg

And im also on v2s and 40mm and im not rubbing on my driveshaft either?

the pictures you posted the driveshaft has no rub/marks on there other then tools being hit on it when parts being moved/removed/added?... typically you should have a continues line going around? afaik.

[evorobin]

Guy have you got a Bilstein link for a price list. Thanks

[shaneth]

Yeah and Dragan a price list for the KW's to please for the Polo GTI

[Guy_H]

Nice post Guy, if you look at the Bilstein you sell, you will note that the bracket for the sway bar links sits lower than the bracket on KW hence they need the shorter sway bar links. KW's have been tested (with maximum axle loads and TUV certification) to as much as 40mm lowering on the front and 45mm in the rear. We have a customer on maximum lowering with no rubbing issues whatsoever. Other customers on 30mm lowering also have no rubbing issues.

Dragan


Actually Dragan, you are correct, the top mount is slightly lower on the bilsteins, but the link is way shorter, and you can see in the comparison photo's that the bilstein link pulls the sway bar up and away from the driveshaft. You will also note that I only posted that because "fuzion" asked about it, so the pictures from months ago. Fuzion, yes it did rub and its pretty easy to see - sorry if the pictures are not clear - as I said - raising the car up 10mm (which it had settled down from the original height we set it at) stopped all rubbing issues.

If you want to circle dirt on our car, its easier to circle the whole car - lol it a car used on the track a dozen times a year - sorry if it was dirty :?

The pics are for reference - as one person experiences rubbing with Eibach springs, and the other car doesn't (we don't sell springs either) so i thought they would appreciate seeing where the sway bar sits!

[shaneth]

Thanks Guy

[phaeton]

Thanks Guy ;) for your informative posts.

Fuzion I think you've circled what appears to be a leaf :D

[gpk_gti]

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r311/yiorgo_gti/274923fa.jpg

should be looking at these aswell guy!!!

[Flaps]

You missed a spot

[gtidre]

Yeah and Dragan a price list for the KW's to please for the Polo GTI

Done, I have added RRP's for the Polo GTI to our web site at http://www.inmotive.com.au just follow the KW Suspension/KW Coilovers/Coilover Application List menu's (please let me know if this works ok or not as I've just added this field to the db and the scripts to display the data).

All VW Watercooled and VW Vortex members are entitled to a discount as has been the case to date.

Cheers

Dragan

[shaneth]

works fine, thanks mate.