SEAT Ibiza ?? Cupra Air Intake

[shaneth]

Read this on Clubgti.com. I hope im allowed to link the pics but is interesting. Anyone know where you could get one? This with a decent panel filter or even standard would be better.


Standard Intake
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/05/intake1-2.jpg

Standard Intake Trumpet Left - Cupra Intake Trumpet Right
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/05/intake2-2.jpg

Standard Intake Pipe Right - Cupra Intake Pipe Left
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/05/intake3-2.jpg

[Flaps]

vagparts.com

[shaneth]

Cupra Intake Fitted
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/05/intake4-2.jpg

Aparently only cost 30 Pound in parts

[shaneth]

vagparts.com

Dam that was quick. Cheers. :D

edit - cant seem to find it there though

[Flaps]

I think you just need to email the part number for a quote.

Shipping is about 12 pound for international stuff.

[Ben_GTI]

Would the intake make that much of a difference on a GTI considering the divert valve opens so early? I just wouldn't have thought it could do anything more as the turbo provides pretty constant air pressure past 2000rpm or so.

[shaneth]

DOnt know Ben, someone with more experience with VW's might no more. I always thought the more fresh air the better.

[gpk_gti]

well im no expert either,but turbos love air,and lots of cold air,the more you give it the better,and same with the exhaust.my brother inlaw added a cai with larger dump pipe and larger ic and he realised 30kw on his skyline.
When I added my TIP I noticed a significant jump in power and smoother power through the revs.in other words making the air get easier into the turbo.so bigger air intake would make more power.:)

[Wand Weaver]

Remember though that the K03 is only a small turbo - and there's only so much it can do without doing a K03 Sport or K04 turbo upgrade.

[gpk_gti]

but it cant hurt though??
it will rev harder??no???

[Golf Loon]

If you tell me the part number, I have a contact in SEAT UK who will send it to me. Takes under a week ;)

[shaneth]

Awesome Loon im in the process oif getting the number ill pm you when i get it Thanks heaps.

[Flaps]

Part numbers:

6LL 129 621 - Trumpet
6LL 129 618 - Pipe

[shaneth]

Where did you get that from.

[DaveMack]

Where did you get that from.

... order two (I'll have one) and it'll cut down on the postage. :D

Cheers,
Dave

[gpk_gti]

i hate you polo guys and your constant group buys!:mad: j: j:

[shaneth]

Ive just pm;ed loon for prices but forgot to get him to get postage. doh. But ill let you know when i find out.

[DaveMack]

i hate you polo guys and your constant group buys!:mad: j: j:

... they're just great little cars to do things to ... making even better performance. :D

And thanks, Shane. PM me when you get the details, if you would.

Cheers,
Dave

[shaneth]

And thanks, Shane. PM me when you get the details, if you would.


No worries mate. Ill get them both sent here as well to save postage and meet you for the cruise or something. Might do a group buy again if enough interest is recieved but so far peolpe dont seem to responsive.

[h100vw]

Not trying to steal Loons thunder but you could also try http://www.oemparts.co.uk/ the guy that runs it is a mate of mine.

Gavin

[mitch_gti]

ummmm

Guys, im a little concerned to be quite honest.


Now i dont want to name any names, but i was on the phone to someone about little upgrades for pog gti intake.

I was told some new intake snorkle things were being imported which were a ''genuine'' part which im guessing would be a part for seat/audi/vw etc.

I was given indication it might be a couple hundred bucks....

I said ohh bugger it if your getting a few in put my name on one. But i havent paid for it.

Sort of afraid i might be in the process of being ripped....???

Could i maybe get my name on one of these CHEAP intake pipes too?

[shaneth]

Dont get to concerned just yet. When i get a price off Golf Loon, Ill let everyone know. Just wait till then before we get to worried. Having said that you will find its always cheaper if ou can get things ship from os then by them here as everyone adds there markup on the way to make there profit. Once again if i do a group buy itll be of no profit to me so hopefully itll be whatever Loon's mate can get it for plus shipping.

[leck]

id think about getting one of these. Just finihsed the stereo so now its time to do some on the car :).

I understand the principle about more air getting in = better, but would it see any immediate improvement in anyones opinion or is it more of a tertiary step to another upgrade

[shaneth]

leck i would love to be the guinea pig but i dont have any real way to measure anything except the seat of your pants. If the price is good ill defintely be getting one. Its up to everyone else if they think its worth the money or not.

[h100vw]

Only thing you might be able to do is data logging with VAG-COM.

You could do before and after logging of the airflow and inlet temps. The amount of airflow has a direct relation to the power that you are making.

Gavin

[shaneth]

Awesome Gavin, will have to find someone up here with vag-com. Will see what i can do.


BTW 500 posts, woot.

[h100vw]

You can do low level stuff like this with the shareware version of VAG-COM and a cheap cable off ebay.

Gavin

[leck]

awesome. i think ill check that out actually.

[Guy_H]

We just landed a big box of Polo intake bits including the air intake side:

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20073.jpg

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20072.jpg

http://www.ozaudi.com/projectPOLO/12-10-2006%20068.jpg

The intake side of things are ~ $160 once I check the charges out combined.

the intake pipes we are going to run on a flow bench, we have found restrictions with the K04's and want to check stock / modified alloy with silicon top vs full Forge version!

[PoloGTi]

They look the goods i am keen to get some.

[jasn78]

Hey guys just bought one off guy for 160 it was like 5 mins to fit and simple as will take it for a fang soon and let u know how it goes:)

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.
I'm curious

[shaneth]

yeah jason let us know what happens

[Eddy]

Remember though that the K03 is only a small turbo - and there's only so much it can do without doing a K03 Sport or K04 turbo upgrade.

Hoyhoy.
Any chance of clarifying about the KO3 Sport, would like to know more about it.

[shaneth]

From what ive read better air flow and able to handle higher boost 15lb. Is this right?

[h100vw]

The 03s holds boost a lot better at the top end compared to the 03. There was one fitted to my Leon Cupra which I had up to 140mph indicated after it was chipped. There was some more to come but I ran out of road/bottle.

A pretty cheap upgrade if your 03 died, I would go for one otherwise. Also you would need different software to get the most from it.

Gavin

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.
Thanks bud.

[Wand Weaver]

Hoyhoy.
Any chance of clarifying about the KO3 Sport, would like to know more about it.

The K03 Sport is a modified version of the K03. This article (relating to the Passat 1.8T) explains what the differences between the K03 Sport, K03 and K04 Turbos are.

http://www.greedspeed.com/articles/articles_view.aspx?article=vwpower_spring99&title=VW+Power+%3A+Spring%2C+1999

[DaveMack]

The K03 Sport is a modified version of the K03. This article (relating to the Passat 1.8T) explains what the differences between the K03 Sport, K03 and K04 Turbos are.

http://www.greedspeed.com/articles/articles_view.aspx?article=vwpower_spring99&title=VW+Power+%3A+Spring%2C+1999

Thanks for pointing that out, WW.

Cheers,
Dave

[ryan_GTI]

Hey guys just bought one off guy for 160 it was like 5 mins to fit and simple as will take it for a fang soon and let u know how it goes:)

cmon jasn78 - every1's anticipating! :D

[ryan_GTI]

I was told we had the k03s in our Polo's... i guess not then

[DaveMack]

I was told we had the k03s in our Polo's... i guess not then

What gives you the impression it's not? :???:

Dave

[shaneth]

Guy might be able to tell us more as he has had his one off. this is the info off Project polo on vortex posted by guy.
K03 - 82 is the turbo that came off - its an 06A VW partnumber - so it does not cross over to any other VW's that I'm aware

From what im reading the K03s varient usually on the 1.8T that has 180hp (polo gti cup maybe). Nots sure so please correct meif im wrong.

[Guy_H]

I'll get the part number off a stock turbo if you can find out if its a K03 "Sport" or not - people in the industry dont refer to it as such - its a term that has developed on the forums from what I understand!

Part Number K03/82 710006962 (last bit is probably the serial number)

[Wand Weaver]

What gives you the impression it's not? :???:

Dave

As far as I'm aware, the 110KW/150hp spec 1.8T came with the K03, whilst the 130KW/180hp spec 1.8T comes with a K03 Sport.

There's every chance the different turbocharger is the difference between the Polo GTI and Polo GTI Cup edition - rather than a simple reflash.

If Guy or Seb has a spare turbo or two lying around from a conversion - they might like to compare the two. From research (never eyeballed the things) - the K03 Sport should have a larger housing and impeller wheel.

[FL00DY]

I'm pretty sure the Polo GTI is only the K03.

Guy, what do people in the industry call the K03 Sport?

[DubSteve]

I'm pretty sure that they are the K03 as the mk4 GTI was the 1.8T with a K03, same engine isn't it?

[FL00DY]

I'm pretty sure that they are the K03 as the mk4 GTI was the 1.8T with a K03, same engine isn't it?

The MKIV had two 1.8T engines, the 180 & 150bhp. The engines are similar, not exactly the same.

[DubSteve]

The MKIV had two 1.8T engines, the 180 & 150bhp. The engines are similar, not exactly the same.

I think that they were the anniversary ones that came with more power, although quite good though.

[FL00DY]

I think that they were the anniversary ones that came with more power, although quite good though.

Yeah the GTI 337 (2002) in the US and Canada eh :D and the 20th anniversary in Europe (2003).

[Guy_H]

I'm pretty sure the Polo GTI is only the K03.

Guy, what do people in the industry call the K03 Sport?

Its probably easier than saying the "slightly larger than K03, but not near as large as the K04 version" :D

[FL00DY]

Its probably easier than saying the "slightly larger than K03, but not near as large as the K04 version" :D

haha fair enough I'll buy that :D

[DubSteve]

Yeah the GTI 337 (2002) in the US and Canada eh :D and the 20th anniversary in Europe (2003).

Fo SHizzle :D

[Guy_H]

If you go to this page:

http://http://www.turbodriven.com/en/productsearch/index.asp

Select Audi A3 1.8T you will see the different partnumbers including the 132kw versions & 110kw versions.

There's a few different ones for the VW's as well (no polo listed) - there doesnt seem to be any extra info on the turbine sizes there.

On another part of the page:

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/passenger_gas.asp

You will see that a K03 is good for 150kw's & a K04 for around 185kw's

[jasn78]

Ok guys had it on for a day now and well i think engine seems to be revving easier but maybe im imagining things i also seem to be able to keep traction light on all the way through 1st in the dry this again may be me giving it more than usual but i def feel a difference. Guy can correct me here but if i was to do it again maybe do all intake mods ie throttle body intake and the air intake 1st then get the cpu flashed as may make more of a difference. But for 160 bucks and 15mins it was worthwhile

[fuzion]

Have to say this, but for $160 in comparison to a $30-50 tubing instead which has a bigger opening/mouth and better feed which does the exact same thing.

Prime example of a car with it, Ashs GIAC at 137fwkw.

Bit of money for such little improvement, turbo inlet pipe most definately for $300 you cant complain

[jasn78]

Have to say this, but for $160 in comparison to a $30-50 tubing instead which has a bigger opening/mouth and better feed which does the exact same thing.

Prime example of a car with it, Ashs GIAC at 137fwkw.

Bit of money for such little improvement, turbo inlet pipe most definately for $300 you cant complain

Well to me the looks i.e keeping it looking as standard as possible is worth the extra bucks instead of having a cop defect you for the cai and hosing

[fuzion]

Well to me the looks i.e keeping it looking as standard as possible is worth the extra bucks instead of having a cop defect you for the cai and hosing

semi true and agreeable there, when i wake up ill continue LOL

[mitch_gti]

I can understand what you mean.... $160 seems quite hard to justify for a piece of plastic which probably costs $10 to produce.

But at the end of the day some will spend that extra bit to have something which looks factory. Even on parts which may or may not improve the performance of the car.

[ryan_GTI]

On another part of the page:

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/passenger_gas.asp

You will see that a K03 is good for 150kw's & a K04 for around 185kw's

Guy is that power measured at the engine or at the wheels? 150kwatw seems impressive if that's the case

[Guy_H]

Guy is that power measured at the engine or at the wheels? 150kwatw seems impressive if that's the case

It would be crank measured !

[Kai]

Guy!

How much will you be selling the full forge intakes for?

I wouldnt mind getting one as soon as they are avaliable.

[Jin]

Yesterday I had the full forge intake, R1 diverter valve and the larger SEAT air intake installed at Volkspower in Melb. Hard to tell how much of a difference it has made but it definitely feels like it revs harder and easier.

[fuzion]

Guy!

How much will you be selling the full forge intakes for?

I wouldnt mind getting one as soon as they are avaliable.

i wouldnt mind knowing too

[awestonvp]

Any news on the intakes Guy?

[awestonvp]

Reason I ask, spoke to a guy yesterday who had the BMC CDA fitted, he said he noticed a BIG difference in the 5000 to 7000 rev range which is where mine does flatten off a bit and does feel a bit strangled. A lift in that range would be useful for track days, and I figured it might be due to a restrictive inlet, and since mines chipped, it may need more air over 5000.
So I had a look at the inlet today. The airbox itself looks ok, would just act as a still-air-box, but the grill in the outlet of the box, and the inlet above the radiator would seem to be the main restictions, and they're the main areas a CDA would fix as far as I can see. And seeing as the CDA is around $1200 to $1500, which I dont have at the moment, the stuff you have for around $160 would seem like a good deal!

[fuzion]

fair bit of $$$ for a bmc tho!

[Golf Loon]

The SEAT Intake keeps the stock look of the car and engine too.

[saba]

were can u get a SEAT intake from?

[mitch_gti]

If you were going to do the whole intake change you would be absolutely mad to spend 1200-1500 on a device to filter air.

If you HAD to do it, you would surely buy a K&N apollo. google it :)


But in my personal opinion, why ruin a nice looking engine bay with 'out of place' dodgey looking intake bits.

Just buy a BMC panel filter and a forge Turbo inlet pipe and seat cupra intake from Guy Harding and also a new diverter valve.

This is what i have done, at first it didnt make much of a difference apart from making the turbocharger more audible. But over a few days of driving it seems to pick up a bit harder and rev a little bit more freely.

I can imagine it would make a more noticeable difference on a car which has been flash tuned.

[leasaunce]

i want one, any stock left?

[RhysQ]

i want one, any stock left?

either speak to Shaneth from Eurokraft or Tim from www.dubaddiction.com.au. go to the 'business home pages' section for their details. they both have them in stock for the same price.

Cheers,
Rhys

[leasaunce]

^thanks...

[flashpixx]

<snip>

Just buy a BMC panel filter and a forge Turbo inlet pipe and seat cupra intake from Guy Harding and also a new diverter valve.

.

Another thread revival. Where would one source the diverter valve please?

[noone]

Wow... There are a number of threads. Use google to search VWW

[Blitzen]

Another thread revival. Where would one source the diverter valve please?

Really?? You just answered your question with the quote you used!!

[flashpixx]

thanks

[noone]

best way to search VWW:

On the Google homepage, type (or copy): "Site:www.vwwatercooled.com.au" then a space and whatever you want to search. In this instance its the PD160, so in the search bar goes: "Site:VWWatercooled Australia | Australia's best source for local and international Volkswagen, Audi and Skoda News (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au) pd160"

I hope I'm not stating the obvious, wanting to help.

[flashpixx]

Thanks, is appreciated. I found all the other bits just wasn't sure who might be best to get the diverter valve from. Seems Guy Harding is the man. :)


best way to search VWW:

On the Google homepage, type (or copy): "Site:www.vwwatercooled.com.au" then a space and whatever you want to search. In this instance its the PD160, so in the search bar goes: "Site:VWWatercooled Australia | Australia's best source for local and international Volkswagen, Audi and Skoda News (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au) pd160"

I hope I'm not stating the obvious, wanting to help.

[h100vw]

Thanks, is appreciated. I found all the other bits just wasn't sure who might be best to get the diverter valve from. Seems Guy Harding is the man. :)

If you have to have an APR DV, there's other one's that are a sound replacement for the VW one. Even Forge-a-like from ebay work well.

Gavin

[rgvlee]

Gordon let me know how you go with Guy, I'm looking to a get a PD160 as well.

[h100vw]

Gordon let me know how you go with Guy, I'm looking to a get a PD160 as well.


pd 160 intake | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=folding+engine+crane&_sop=7&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313&_nkw=pd+160+intake&_sacat=0)

[flashpixx]

No worries Lee and congrats on the +1 to be. Waiting on a reply to a PM.

Thanks h100vw

[Pod]

I have a PD160 that I don't need anymore if anyone is interested. It's still in its packaging and hasn't been installed. PM me if interested..

[flashpixx]

I have a PD160 that I don't need anymore if anyone is interested. It's still in its packaging and hasn't been installed. PM me if interested..

all yours Lee :)