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After much initial deliberation, I've just put in an order for a New Polo GTI 5 door manual in black.
Given pricing and info has not been released, my offer is subject to being happy with the driveaway price, the car being a 5 door black manual, etc, but at least I'll be in line for something from the first batch (dealer is saying October/November)
If I find I'm not happy with the price or specs, I'll be changing my order over to a 77TSI manual (also a great car)
Bring on the GTI announcement in October!
PS, maybe we can get this thread made as a sticky for future GTI orders and delivery info?
seangti
10-06-2010, 09:56 AM
umm, you've referred to it being manual?? The polo's are going to be DSG only at least initially.
peedman
10-06-2010, 10:44 AM
yeh i read that it was only 7 speed dsg for the new pogo. none of the press reports in aus mention anything about manual unfortunately...
True guys, however the dealer seems to think manual will be an option straight off the bat (that being true I don't know).
If DSG is the only option, and the price comes in at what I'm willing to pay, I'll get it.
If the manual is announced, I'm in line for that.
Corey_R
10-06-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm not sure where your dealer is getting the information, but Volkswagen has told the overseas press for the launch of the Polo GTI that the manual is not a possibility as it won't fit in the chassis in combination with that engine.....
Thanks for the info guys.
I was hoping for a manual, but DSG is also very very good.
The way I see it is that if manual is announced, I'm in line for one. If not, I'm still in line for a DSG
And if when everything is announced, I don't like the price or options, I'll change over to a 77TSI.
These are great cars either way and can't wait to be driving one!
Ralfi
10-06-2010, 08:00 PM
Good luck, bttt. Look forward to pics & your opinion of the GTI if all goes well.
Also, I don't think it comes in a 5 door (in Aus anyway). How sure was the salesman about this?
I'm not sure where your dealer is getting the information, but Volkswagen has told the overseas press for the launch of the Polo GTI that the manual is not a possibility as it won't fit in the chassis in combination with that engine.....
So the DSG box is smaller than a manual box.
Hard to believe.
Corey_R
10-06-2010, 11:22 PM
It's not necessarily that it's smaller as such (although it could be, it's not like I have the engineering diagrams from both), but since the DSG is basically two manual gearboxes strapped together, one 'gearbox' having half the gears, the 'second gearbox' having the other half of the gears, arranged sorta side-by-side so they use the same output shaft, it's maybe not as long as the manual.
(sorry, I do actually have some engineering details on the 6sp DSG, but not the newer 7sp DSG, nor the 6 speed manual used in the Polo).
Good luck, bttt. Look forward to pics & your opinion of the GTI if all goes well.
Also, I don't think it comes in a 5 door (in Aus anyway). How sure was the salesman about this?
Thanks mate.
Sales staff were pretty sure a 5 door option will be made avaliable. Articles I've found online seem to state the same thing.
All I know is that if I'd comitted to a 77TSI now, then the GTI is announced and everything lines up, I'd be annoyed haha (although as I said, I still think the 77TSI is a great car and I would/could end up owning one)
So time will tell!
Corey_R
11-06-2010, 08:51 AM
Oh ignore Ralfi's comment. The 5 door in Australia is guaranteed - it's the VGA strategy and it represents over 90% of the Australian market. What is not guaranteed is the 3 door GTI !!! :o
Ralfi
11-06-2010, 03:11 PM
The 5 door in Australia is guaranteed - it's the VGA strategy and it represents over 90% of the Australian market. What is not guaranteed is the 3 door GTI !!! :o
5 door GTI is guaranteed? & manual going off what the OP was told?!?! This is news to me..
Corey_R
11-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Sorry, your post is a bit hard to understand... so I'll say it once more:
The new Polo GTI in Australia will be:
5 Door DSG only
That's it.
It is not available anywhere in the world in a manual. Plus, although overseas markets may get the 3 door, since that is such an unpopular option in Australia, Volkswagen Group Australia (VGA) have said they have no plans for any further 3 door models for this country.
I don't really care what some sales person has said, this is what Volkswagen (Germany) have said re the manual, and VGA spokes man Karl G has said in relation to the 3 door. I'm pretty sure they're a better source than a saleman who is yet to receive any specifications from VGA.
Ralfi
11-06-2010, 05:17 PM
Sorry, your post is a bit hard to understand... so I'll say it once more:
The new Polo GTI in Australia will be:
5 Door DSG only
That's it.
It is not available anywhere in the world in a manual. Plus, although overseas markets may get the 3 door, since that is such an unpopular option in Australia, Volkswagen Group Australia (VGA) have said they have no plans for any further 3 door models for this country.
I don't really care what some sales person has said, this is what Volkswagen (Germany) have said re the manual, and VGA spokes man Karl G has said in relation to the 3 door. I'm pretty sure they're a better source than a saleman who is yet to receive any specifications from VGA.
Wow. Thanks for the info. Surprising. So when you say 3drs are unpopular, I guess that's taken from the Golfs 3dr sales figures as the Polo GTI was only in a 3dr up to this point in time?
Can't remember seeing the new Polo GTI in a 5dr, so maybe this is why I was leaning toward 3dr only here.
Corey_R
11-06-2010, 06:02 PM
Yeah, VGA would be looking at the Golf GTI and the Golf R32 3 door vs 5 door figures. But it's not just an issue with VW. If you look at all the other car manufacturers in Australia, many do not bring their 3 door models, or have stopped.
fung9420
12-06-2010, 12:08 AM
I 'd say the marketing relates to the potential buyers age group.
that also relates to the price tag.
price --> Age --> need (3 or 5 doors)
noone
12-06-2010, 10:38 AM
I don't understand why you'd want to put a deposit down on a car that is still around 6 months away and you have not driven yet...
On saying that, Good luck BTTT, I hope you get what you want.
I don't understand why you'd want to put a deposit down on a car that is still around 6 months away and you have not driven yet...
On saying that, Good luck BTTT, I hope you get what you want.
Thanks!
The reason I put a deposit down is that it gives me dibs on first stock. If I don't like the price or car, I can withdraw the offer or change to a 77TSI.
pologti18t
14-06-2010, 08:31 PM
The old Polo GTI was available overseas as a 5 door.
Buller_Scott
14-06-2010, 10:59 PM
The old Polo GTI was available overseas as a 5 door.
if they were 5 door here i would have got one.
the only reason i was buying the car was to get to buller and back, and 3dr seemed a little impractical.
and noone: sharkie did that with the golf .:R- he went to the dealer and put $500 down on a car following this description: petrol turbo, all wheel drive, up-specced compared to golf gti, etc etc. apparently the deal was, if VWA released a car that follows that description somewhere down the track, he will have dibs on first stock. this was before they even announced the golf R overseas, and yet he was lined up to get one of the first golf R's in australia.
i think he's too busy playing with his tiguan now though....
Corey_R
15-06-2010, 06:52 AM
No... the issue with doing this is that, the dealers don't get to put in the orders for the people that have "pre ordered" until AFTER the car is released. So even though Sharkie had his deposit down for over a year, no suitable cars came into the country, so he is still without a car and will just have to put a factory order in like any other person that wants to purchase one now....
Dealers should not be taking deposits for cars not yet released. Volkswagen Group Australia themselves say that the dealers should not be doing this.
s1831559
15-06-2010, 08:48 PM
It's not necessarily that it's smaller as such (although it could be, it's not like I have the engineering diagrams from both), but since the DSG is basically two manual gearboxes strapped together, one 'gearbox' having half the gears, the 'second gearbox' having the other half of the gears, arranged sorta side-by-side so they use the same output shaft, it's maybe not as long as the manual.
(sorry, I do actually have some engineering details on the 6sp DSG, but not the newer 7sp DSG, nor the 6 speed manual used in the Polo).
DSG is bigger and heavier.
Corey_R
15-06-2010, 08:56 PM
I'm aware, and as my post says, it's not necessarily that the DSG has a smaller volume, but the dimensions of it allow it to fit whereas Volkswagen themselves state that the manual does not fit.
pologti18t
16-06-2010, 09:50 AM
Wheels mag has the Polo GTI for release here in Aug/Sept.
Parky
22-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Any guess to how much a 5 door dsg with leather will most likely be? under $30k ?
Corey_R
22-06-2010, 06:05 PM
Unlikely.
The current Polo GTI is $26990 RRP. It's about $30,600 on the road. So that's for a 3 door manual with cloth interior.
5 door usually adds $1500, DSG $2500, leather $3300.
Having said that, Volkswagen Group Australia have surprised many people with their aggressive pricing, so it may be better than we expect, but unlikely you'll get all of that on the road for under $30,000
s1831559
22-06-2010, 09:18 PM
went to a dealer on the weekend, was told they are expecting the car in oct.
5 doors dsg ard $32,000r.r.p. + on road. thats abt the same price as golf tsi XD. 6R polo gti maybe the most expansive polo ever once you add on road and few options. Hopefully, they'll offer r.rp drive away as this particular deal i went to, else buying golf maybe a better option? or Audi A1 anyone?
also told there is manual option as well??? i thought dsg as standard in euro.
also there is a polo gti in the counrty for all vw managers to test drive appearently. how abt us vw?
Corey_R
22-06-2010, 11:04 PM
Well not really. To buy the Golf GTI you'd be looking at $42,990.00 + onroads.... so not really sure how that's an alternative to someone that was originally looking at a $32,000 car plus onroads...
The Audi A1 is on the Polo platform. So again, that's no alternative to someone look at the Polo, because it'll likely be priced against the Mini. So by the time you get to the S1 (Polo GTI equiv), you'll be looking at more than Golf GTi prices!
pologti18t
23-06-2010, 01:30 PM
I still think that VW will try to get the Polo GTI into the 29990+ORC region. They have to as they have been rolling Golf GTIs out the door for $39K drive away!
I think the Citroen DS3 will be the small hot hatch to get when it is released. The reviews of this car seem to be way above expectations.
s1831559
25-06-2010, 11:51 PM
Well not really. To buy the Golf GTI you'd be looking at $42,990.00 + onroads.... so not really sure how that's an alternative to someone that was originally looking at a $32,000 car plus onroads...
The Audi A1 is on the Polo platform. So again, that's no alternative to someone look at the Polo, because it'll likely be priced against the Mini. So by the time you get to the S1 (Polo GTI equiv), you'll be looking at more than Golf GTi prices!
sorry i dont mean golf gti, but tsi or tdi. less sporty than polo gti but more practical.
well, lets wait and see how vw pull this one off.
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