Park Distance Control / Optical Parking Sensors (PDC / OPS)

[Mk6 GTI]

Hi Guys,

I have been given two options for rear sensors (Both dealer fitted).

1. After market $595 that comes with its own two year warranty OR
2. VW Genuine rear sensors $795 that is covered by factory warranty including my extended warranty. (This one is also fitted here)

Which one do i go for? I like the idea of the vw genuine part as it will be covered for 6 years. But he wont drop in price and its alot of cash!

The aftermarket sensor he can do for $550..

Anyone have the aftermarket? Annoying beeping maybe?

[Idle]

I went for the VW (not really from VW, BTW, any more than the dealer-supplied unit is) one with optional screen — sometimes it's handy, but I don't think it's anywhere near worth the money.

However, I did end up turning the sound off.

I have to reverse up a long, narrow drive that's only inches from the side of the house (close enough to cause a continuous beep) and it nearly drove me crazy (well, that wouldn't really be a drive — maybe a short putt...)

Would have been fine to leave the sound on if you could turn off individual sensors, but you can't, and of course if you don't have the (very tiny) screen then turning the sound off isn't an option either.

Incidentally, I'd have thought that a "genuine" VW accessory would have displayed on the RNS310/510 screen and 'beeped' through the sound system, but that isn't the case — it does exactly what a (very) much cheaper 4-sensor system from Ebay would do; The only real advantage — if it is one — seems to be the extra 24 months warranty.

[Corey_R]

Yeah, the 'Rear Parking Distance Control' option isn't available from the factory anymore. It's been replaced by the "Park Assist' which includes front and rear sensors and the ability for the car to park itself for no additional price on what the option of front and rear sensors would've cost.

Rear PDC on the MKV used to cost $800 from the factory, so the fact that the dealer will do it and it's only $795 is good, as long as it includes the installation in that.

But I would clarify exactly how it will work. As Idle has said, if it's just beeping and doesn't show the full display on the RCD310/RNS510 screen, then it's a lot of money in this day and age for a beeping PDC system.

[Mk6 GTI]

Yeah, the 'Rear Parking Distance Control' option isn't available from the factory anymore. It's been replaced by the "Park Assist' which includes front and rear sensors and the ability for the car to park itself for no additional price on what the option of front and rear sensors would've cost.

Rear PDC on the MKV used to cost $800 from the factory, so the fact that the dealer will do it and it's only $795 is good, as long as it includes the installation in that.

But I would clarify exactly how it will work. As Idle has said, if it's just beeping and doesn't show the full display on the RCD310/RNS510 screen, then it's a lot of money in this day and age for a beeping PDC system.

Yes that is $795 fully installed.. apprently you dont get any visual display (disappointing for that price!!) I guess the only advantage is that it will be covered for 6 years (with my extended warranty). Id like to think that there is a quality factor difference but i dont know. Bit overpriced for what your getting if you ask me!!

[Maverick]

Consider the camera, fitting this afterwards will cost you around the same however the RCD 510 headunit may not have the camera input (I understand that they all do have it now but it hasn't been confirmed).

Pros and cons with only having one of the two. The sensors don't work all the time nor do they detect everything and the camera relies on you to look at the screen (which I'm getting used to doing now but it's an extra place to check). Can you alter your factory order? If you only ordered a few days ago it probably hasn't been entered yet?

[niulf]

I did not choose sensors, RVC and Parking assist when I ordered my car. I would save this money for something else, such as upgrade the shift paddles to aluminium, ECU upgrade, boots organiser, etc. In my opinion, Golf is only a small car, parking sensors, RVC and parking assist are really not necessary. If I buy Touareg or Audi Q7, I absolutely will get those things. They are really handy on such big cars. But for Golf, it's also handy, but not necessary. I bought my brand new Golf V two weeks after I got my red P. I had never had any problems to park the car since then. :rolleyes:

[Mk6 GTI]

Consider the camera, fitting this afterwards will cost you around the same however the RCD 510 headunit may not have the camera input (I understand that they all do have it now but it hasn't been confirmed).

Pros and cons with only having one of the two. The sensors don't work all the time nor do they detect everything and the camera relies on you to look at the screen (which I'm getting used to doing now but it's an extra place to check). Can you alter your factory order? If you only ordered a few days ago it probably hasn't been entered yet?

I can still alter the specs.. but i dontthink i want the camera. I figured if i got anything i would get the sensors.. But $795 for the genuine ones that will be fitted here is so much.. Im still stuck! I dont know whether i should :|

[seangti]

how many times have you hit objects when parking the car??

I personally wouldn't pay anymore for a car with sensors than without when it comes time to buy a used vehicle. So you may be wasting money on something (that if you're a good parker) you've never required in the past and that you'll never get the value back on resale/trade in.

Though I guess if you're asking the question, you're wanting such a thing...

[Mk6 GTI]

how many times have you hit objects when parking the car??

I personally wouldn't pay anymore for a car with sensors than without when it comes time to buy a used vehicle. So you may be wasting money on something (that if you're a good parker) you've never required in the past and that you'll never get the value back on resale/trade in.

Though I guess if you're asking the question, you're wanting such a thing...
I think your right. I have no problem with parking at all, I just thought it might be useful.. $800 is a lot! I have bumped the back of the car once but thats because i was being careless. I guess it could eliminate the once off's. Dont know!

[Maverick]

I did not choose sensors, RVC and Parking assist when I ordered my car. I would save this money for something else, such as upgrade the shift paddles to aluminium, ECU upgrade, boots organiser, etc. In my opinion, Golf is only a small car, parking sensors, RVC and parking assist are really not necessary. If I buy Touareg or Audi Q7, I absolutely will get those things. They are really handy on such big cars. But for Golf, it's also handy, but not necessary. I bought my brand new Golf V two weeks after I got my red P. I had never had any problems to park the car since then. :rolleyes:

The Golf has one of the worst blind spots to the rear of any car.

The Touraeg and the Q7 have much better visibility to the rear (The Q7 get's a perfect score).

Visibility to the rear has nothing to do with the size of the car but everything to do with the design.

[Mk6 GTI]

Well i guess its come down to this.. If i do get any rear sensors it will be the VW genuine ones as they will be covered for 6 yrs by my extended warranty. Now the questions is if i dont get them..will i regret not getting them! :| If i do.. ive already spent $56k.. is it worth another $800 :|

[MurphyTheElf]

Well i guess its come down to this.. If i do get any rear sensors it will be the VW genuine ones as they will be covered for 6 yrs by my extended warranty. Now the questions is if i dont get them..will i regret not getting them! :| If i do.. ive already spent $56k.. is it worth another $800 :|

Hey I spent over $60k. It takes all my willpower not to enshroud the entire car in bubble wrap.

[Maverick]

Well i guess its come down to this.. If i do get any rear sensors it will be the VW genuine ones as they will be covered for 6 yrs by my extended warranty. Now the questions is if i dont get them..will i regret not getting them! :| If i do.. ive already spent $56k.. is it worth another $800 :|

Depends. What's it worth if it saves you running over a pet, child or a bollard?

The insurance excess and costs involved will easily exceed $800 and if you're keeping it for 6+ years it's a no brainer.

[Guest]

the RRP is $551.19 for them the price you have would be with fitment charges you should see if you can get the fitting for free as part of the deal?

[Corey_R]

the RRP is $551.19 for them the price you have would be with fitment charges you should see if you can get the fitting for free as part of the deal?

According to the documentation at the VW GTI launch day it was $612.45.
But either way, that's for dealer fit only, not factory fit. There is no way to negotiate free fitting if it's factory fitted.

[gti]

Do you really need parking sensors? Honestly IMO I think they are small enough to make parking a breeze. I find reverse parking the easiest.

[cme2c]

I have the sensors and camera on my wife's 118TSI. She works in schools so the fact that the Golf could be had with a camera was a real bonus.

I thought it was a gimmick. But.. she's away at a conference, it's 30 degrees plus in Sydney and I am waiting for parts to fix the air conditioning in my Peugeot so I have been driving the Golf. Love the sensors and camera.

[Maverick]

Do you really need parking sensors? Honestly IMO I think they are small enough to make parking a breeze. I find reverse parking the easiest.

The size doesn't play into this in any way, it's the design.

The Golf requires ~13m to view the test object in the NRMA test and get's a star rating of 1/2 a star out of 5 (the golf dropped off the list for some reason recently).

The Citreon C3 by comparison is 3.06m and 4 stars.

Mitsubishi Grandis 4.53m and 3 stars.

Audi TT 5.3m and 3 stars.

Hyundai Tucson 4.69m and 2 1/2 stars.

source: http://www.nrma.com.au/keeping-safe-secure/car-safety/driver-visibility/reversing-visibility-tables.shtml

How the test is performed

The test procedure used a laser pointing device, a dummy to represent an average adult size, a test cylinder to represent the shoulder height of an average two year old child, and a grid extended 1.8 x 15 metres to the rear of the vehicle.

The laser is directed through the rear window of each vehicle. The position where the laser is visible on the test cylinder is noted. This procedure is repeated for all positions on the grid. The results are analysed and an overall score is given. The best scores are awarded to the vehicles which have the most effective rear visibility.

[Guest]

According to the documentation at the VW GTI launch day it was $612.45.
But either way, that's for dealer fit only, not factory fit. There is no way to negotiate free fitting if it's factory fitted.According to my VGA literature RRP is def $551.19 without fitting charges. What i meant was you can ask your salesman for the techs to fit them for free as part of the deal. If you dont get the fitment for nothing your just not trying hard enough make them bend over backwards for you.

[Mk6 GTI]

According to my VGA literature RRP is def $551.19 without fitting charges. What i meant was you can ask your salesman for the techs to fit them for free as part of the deal. If you dont get the fitment for nothing your just not trying hard enough make them bend over backwards for you.

the thing is i have already signed a contract.. so he can charge whatever he wants unfortunately.. he is only dropping on the aftermarket ones not on the vw sensors..

[emuexport]

Hi Guys,

Had a hunt around and couldnt find anything with regards to this so wondering if anyone has fitted the OPS system to their car after delivery?

I found this on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/8-Sensors-VW-PDC-Park-Assist-Park-Pilot-OPS-RNS-MFD3_W0QQitemZ180493543452QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2a0640e81c#h t_2690wt_1165) and am pretty keen with the RCD510 arriving shortly to replace the stock RCD310 this seems like the next thing to get fitted. Dont really feel like dropping $700 on aftermarket sensors that dont work together with the system.

So has anyone had them fitted and know where I can get them done in Perth?

Cheers,
Justin

[DracZ]

Interested to know as well, similar situation except my rear sensors are already dealer fitted. Does the OPS require a separate module in addition to a RCD/RNS-510? Or will a simple recode suffice? Currently I have the RCD-310, but I will be retrofitting the RCD-510 over the weekend etc. Thanks

[kennyc]

My after sales manager was trying to sell me parking sensors. This is from Barloworld Glen Waverley.
It is around $1100 for front and back. I am considering getting them, but the price is bit too expensive.

Let me know how you guys go.

[STV4SYT]

Which Dealer are u getting it from?


I'm contemplating getting the sat nav from the same mob as this optical park sensor.


VW OPS optical parking system RNS RCD 510 MFD3 GOLF PDC on eBay (end time 18-Apr-10 13:10:28 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-OPS-optical-parking-system-RNS-RCD-510-MFD3-GOLF-PDC_W0QQitemZ110509047690QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_ GPS_Accessories_Software_ET?hash=item19bada3f8a)

[emuexport]

Which Dealer are u getting it from?


I'm contemplating getting the sat nav from the same mob as this optical park sensor.


VW OPS optical parking system RNS RCD 510 MFD3 GOLF PDC on eBay (end time 18-Apr-10 13:10:28 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-OPS-optical-parking-system-RNS-RCD-510-MFD3-GOLF-PDC_W0QQitemZ110509047690QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_ GPS_Accessories_Software_ET?hash=item19bada3f8a)

Just be aware thats rear only. They do have the F+R set like I have linked above.

[Corey_R]

Why would you also need front though? The front vision on Golf's are fine. It's not like getting the fronts also allows you to have park assist... for that you need 10 sensors (the two side ones, which may or may not be different to the other 8).

[emuexport]

As others have said why would you need them at all. If it means that my wife is more confident about getting into a park or not hitting the wall then I'm all for it!

[G-rig]

Just fit a camera instead.

[GHW]

Just fit a camera instead.

What he said.
Sensors are prone to falsing and cannot cover everything. The factory rear sensors in my R36 go nuts every time I reverse out of my garage due to how steep the driveway is so the camera is the safest option (both operate at the same time).
I also have a front camera which I do use all the time so I don't take the nose off on those stupid concrete blocks that are always too high !
One of the first things to go into my wife's Golf when it (finally) gets here is front and rear cameras too. Each to their own, safety first in my book and damn the cost.

[Corey_R]

I haven't noticed a front camera as an option for the Passat. Was it factory or aftermarket?
Does it just show the forward view, or does it have a prism lens so you can see out the left and right views from the nose? (this is the more typical front camera).

[elisiX]

Sure the sensors are not for everyone - but it's not an overly expensive option and I'm happy with the choice.

[emuexport]

Just fit a camera instead.

Do cameras work on an RCD510?
I have an RCD510 on the way and this was my main driver besides keping it fairly stock and having all the components talking to each other.

[G-rig]

Do cameras work on an RCD510?
I have an RCD510 on the way and this was my main driver besides keping it fairly stock and having all the components talking to each other.

Yes I got the mk6 (badge) RVC and RCD510 working fine from the factory. You can fit the same RVC but is a fair bit of work But places like European Autotech can supply and fit them, or you could just get a cheap camera and kufatek adapter but i'd recommend going with the OEM one.

[markwid]

Trying to research what options I have for the GTI. Need some help and suggestions.

Basically, new car will come without reverse sensor as I wasn't convinced on bundled Park Assist. Headunit is stock RCD510 in the GTI. Would like to install reverse sensor but what should I go for?

Any OEM that will integrate with RCD510? Or aftermarket with separate display of distance remaining?

The current mk5 has an aftermarket reverse sensor with separate display which actually works well and I find it useful.

If this has been answered in another thread, mod - please merge this.

[Corey_R]

Hey mate. I haven't read back through this thread to see if your question is actually answered within (cause I'm heading off to bed), but this is the existing thread(s) on the topic. Let us know whether it answers your question, or if not, what additional information you're still seeking! Cheers.

[markwid]

Thanks Corey for the merge, my search skills is poor obviously.

I have gone through the discussion but it hasn't really answered it for me. I am not keen on camera.

A simple reverse sensor would be fine for me - ideally integrated with the headunit RCD510. Otherwise last resort, I am ok with separate display mounted on top of rearview mirror. There isn't any info on the first preferred option here.

Added: Anyone knows if this kit is suitable?
http://www.t-era.co.uk/Pub/default.aspx?Page=ItemDetailDescriptionEN&CatID=TE_29&ID=201524

[markwid]

Bump. Can anyone recommend a workshop in Sydney to do the install of below kit?

BTW, European Autotech is not doing this type of install.

Would like to think, it will be possible to get OPS working on RCD510 headunit.

rear parking kit for VW (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190372746324&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com.au%3A80%2F%3F_from%3 DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3907.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D1903727 46324%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_3042wt_1139)

[markwid]

Update guys. The OPS retrofit is now done. Happy as Larry.

This is the kit I bought.
http://img.skitch.com/20110507-b13621juux4k2wdh6nmyfteq5d.jpg

Did some color coding myself.
http://img.skitch.com/20110507-e8krjtx3yn6x8imqtdmyfgw1ba.jpg

Fitted onto rear bumper.
http://img.skitch.com/20110507-r7dywfa1j9d4mine8capq3gwj5.jpg

OPS in action (some coding required to activate OPS).
http://img.skitch.com/20110507-d295wq9qkski79ks23hp9bhum5.jpg

[hooba]

That looks like a factory install, nice job.

[mg2307]

That looks like a great install. I have just ordered my candy white GTI and wish to retrofit. How did you match the candy white so well?

Does anyone know an installer in Melbourne that can do this job for me? Thanks for any help.

-MG

[markwid]

That looks like a great install. I have just ordered my candy white GTI and wish to retrofit. How did you match the candy white so well?
Thanks. DIY, if you are a handy kind of person.

Go to your local paint shop and ask them to mix you up a custom color spray-can. Color code for candy white is LB9A.
http://img.skitch.com/20110709-ans2645q9wtss6n79a4rwib77.jpg

And pick up a can of clear coat as well.
http://img.skitch.com/20110709-115fmxsi6r1931hwj92teuqyp7.jpg

Do 2-3 coats of color followed by 2-3 coats of clear. Bob's your uncle. Oh, if you need to prep, sandpaper(wet and dry will do) down the surface to remove unwanted paint and smooth out surface.

[Transporter]

I bought fr+re PDS kit from this seller http://shop.ebay.com.au/vaclavbakerman/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25 , for way less than $300 (can't remember now exactly how much) but he is probably the cheapest on the ebay.

[Steveo]

I ordered the rear parking sensors with the car and the dealer used an after-market install, not the VW parts. It cost around $500.

Works well - the only thing I would observe is that the speaker is installed on the parcel shelf. It is not really noticeable unless you are looking for it, but I can see it would annoy some people, so it might be best to ask about the differences in the way in which they are installed and the look.

On another car I had (Euro) the speaker was in the boot and the beeper was much harder to hear especially if you had the radio or music on... no problem with this one.

Are they worth it? I would say yes if you are parking in shopping centre car parks or similar. One badly placed post or a tight parking space can cost you a lot more than the cost of the install. Yes you get false alarms from bushes etc but... I don't install them to add value to the car.

[mg2307]

Thanks Markwid, I'm DIY enough to give that a go, then get a pro to install the sensors and unit.

-MG

[markwid]

Thanks Markwid, I'm DIY enough to give that a go, then get a pro to install the sensors and unit.

-MG
Good plan. Same as what I did.

[Captain Courteous]

Yes I got the mk6 (badge) RVC and RCD510 working fine from the factory. You can fit the same RVC but is a fair bit of work But places like European Autotech can supply and fit them, or you could just get a cheap camera and kufatek adapter but i'd recommend going with the OEM one.

Has anyone in Sydney had the VW OEM camera fitted post-delivery? DIY or done at a shop? I'd be keen on the latter as I lack the skill and know-how of DIY electronics lol. I imagine there’d be a lot of work involved.. Fitting the motor & camera to the VW badge, configuring the RNS510 to activate in reverse etc..

I do a lot of driving within the CBD so it would really come in handy getting into those small spaces...

[Idle]

Has anyone in Sydney had the VW OEM camera fitted post-delivery? DIY or done at a shop? I'd be keen on the latter as I lack the skill and know-how of DIY electronics lol. I imagine there’d be a lot of work involved.. Fitting the motor & camera to the VW badge, configuring the RNS510 to activate in reverse etc..

I do a lot of driving within the CBD so it would really come in handy getting into those small spaces...

You don't really need electronics skill as such — you need to know how to join wires by soldering or with connectors and how to read.

You'll also need physical strength, confidence and common sense.

Everything else (components, tools, installation info) can either be bought or found free on the 'net — depending on the installer you choose (if you can find one) you can save over $1000 by DIY...

[walbjj]

the badge rvc will cost u $1250 installed at European Autotech. its a lot of labour involved. the parts only cost about $500-600, but the time to pull all the trims out and what not is a lot.
thats why i went with the OPS. i just need some guidance with my parking

[markwid]

Hi guys,

I have some bad news for my OPS retrofit. It has developed intermittent problems and I suspect it is draining power even when off. In the morning it would give out audible "ding, ding" but no error message on the MFD.

I have disconnected the PDC unit for now. When I get a chance, I will be taking it to VWvillage for George to have a look.

Possible problem and solution.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/07/20110717qtr2u6btqre4qhssxgpdssbmnk-1.jpg

[walbjj]

Taking my gti back to Derek Tom, he installed the sensors and wired it up but it didn't respond. I emailed the seller and he provided wiring info etc so will give it another crack Tom.

[markwid]

Taking my gti back to Derek Tom, he installed the sensors and wired it up but it didn't respond. I emailed the seller and he provided wiring info etc so will give it another crack Tom.
Share the wiring info...

[walbjj]

It's a PDF file in German that they linked me to, I'll post a link later

[walbjj]

http://www.carsystems.pl/PDC VW Golf 6.pdf

its in german.
he also provided this info
Which pins because it must be connected to can gateway pins no 6 and 16

Can high from ops module pin no 6 to can gateway pin no 16

And can low 15 to 06 in can gateway

In ops module pin 8 - gnd / pin no 1 12V
means nothing to me unfortunately

[markwid]

Thanks. Here is the same file, in case some of you have problems with link above.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B76IGanV9f4IMWE1OWQ4NjAtYmMzMy00MzNiLTk0MzI tZDFiMjBkNThkYjAx&hl=en_US

Will pass on the info to George @ VWvillage.

[blueonblue]

HI all,

I am looking at getting some parking sensors fitted to my Golf Bluemotion and am thinking these look like the go:

Bosch - ParkPilot - Perfect Parking made easy (http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/html/1546.htm)

The only place in Perth that seems to do them is:

PEBCO Automotive (http://www.pebco.com.au/bosch_new.html)

I am wondering if anyone has any experience with these units?

[Corey_R]

Hey mate. Welcome to the forums. I've merged your thread with this existing aftermarket PDC thread. Have a look through, there may already be several suitable suggestions.

[walbjj]

So the ops system that I bought is communicating with the controller but not with the car. This same system, someones elses that is, works in some capacity on a mk5, but my mk6 is causing issues.
Markwid however managed to get it working somewhat in his mk6.
I've emailed the eBay vendor requesting proper info or a refund. I'm left with 4 holes in my bumper now.
Derek at EA has a complete front and rear unit which he says will work but it's more expensive. I might as well just get that now and save the mucking around. Pretty annoyed, but what can u do.

[Corey_R]

Can you provide the info of the system that Derek is selling when you have the details? Thanks.

[Matchew]

So the ops system that I bought is communicating with the controller but not with the car. This same system, someones elses that is, works in some capacity on a mk5, but my mk6 is causing issues.
Markwid however managed to get it working somewhat in his mk6.
I've emailed the eBay vendor requesting proper info or a refund. I'm left with 4 holes in my bumper now.
Derek at EA has a complete front and rear unit which he says will work but it's more expensive. I might as well just get that now and save the mucking around. Pretty annoyed, but what can u do.

So no luck with Derek then? That's no good. I was hoping you would have a good story and an answer.

I have been doing some hunting around and all I can come up with is what EA have already tried. The seller for my unit gave me the Kufatec instructions through the car systems.pl website. The only additional info I can find is that there is an untick option in module 37 which is the nav unit to enable parking aid display and the options to enable in module 10.

Unfortunately I think I'm in the same boat as you walbjj. I'm going to see if I can get a refund on the eBay kit and order the sensors through Derek. My guess is they're buying the Kufatec kits, going by the price they quote and the location of origin, but Kufatec request a VIN on order so their kits should work out of the box.

[walbjj]

at this stage no, but the thing that gets me is that the mk6 has a diff canbus interface to the mk5 so the mk5 should get better results. a member on the golfmk5 forums got his unit up and running, albeit not perfectly, but enough to be operational.
and markwid got his unit running on a mk6.
i got one last stab at it with derek as my car needs to get this water pump/ whistle issue looked at and then it goes in for my upgrades and derek will have another go at it with any new info that i can gather.

[mhh]

at this stage no, but the thing that gets me is that the mk6 has a diff canbus interface to the mk5 so the mk5 should get better results. a member on the golfmk5 forums got his unit up and running, albeit not perfectly, but enough to be operational.
and markwid got his unit running on a mk6.
i got one last stab at it with derek as my car needs to get this water pump/ whistle issue looked at and then it goes in for my upgrades and derek will have another go at it with any new info that i can gather.

Good luck. It's worth hanging in there now you've got this far. The solution is so tidy it is worth the pain to get it working. :)

[walbjj]

Wow, I got the ops working months ago. Sorry if I never updated

[jdimitri]

Wow, I got the ops working months ago. Sorry if I never updated

Tell us how! I wouldn't mind some sensors if it's not too expensive =)

[walbjj]

I bought the carsystems.pl kit off eBay, cost was about $350. And Derek at ea in sydney installed after a few tries. Wasn't easy but in the end after getting all the correct info it worked out

[XTC838]

I'm tossing up between a rear park sensor or OEM Camera. The cost difference between them is around $121.

Would be interested to hear from people who has either one of those and which is more useful in the Golf.

Cheers guys.

[Corey_R]

IMO, Camera.
PDC can miss poles or other objects, they also don't help at night when it's really dark and you can't see too well what's behind. The RVC has great nightvision and can give a view of what's obscured by the Golf's relatively poor rearward vision.

Additionally, the car park that I park my car in at work has rather tall concrete blocks which are presumably to stop you from going over the railing by hitting your tyres. Except, they're so tall, they would hit the exhaust in my Golf R, and then the bumper, and probably lift the car in the air, way before it ever reached a tyre. The PDC doesn't pick them up that well. The RVC is perfect in that instance.

[walbjj]

A rvc is prob better, but I've never had issues with my ops.
The rvc and PDc unit in the hilux I have works excellently tho, and is essential for large cars

[Captain Courteous]

+1 for the camera mate..

My previous car had a reverse camera and parking sensors.. I always found the camera more useful.. More precise especially in those tight spaces in the city..

With the Golf now I only have sensors.. Wish I had the camera :sad:

[phantomcamel]

+1 for the camera mate..

My previous car had a reverse camera and parking sensors.. I always found the camera more useful.. More precise especially in those tight spaces in the city..

With the Golf now I only have sensors.. Wish I had the camera :sad: Buy one from kufatec.de KUFATEC GmbH & Co. KG - Volkswagen (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/index.php/cat/c1_Volkswagen.html)

[BooHiss]

Hi all,

Week two of owning a new Golf 118TSI and really loving it, I am however having difficulty gauging the distance between neighbouring cars when parking, the bonnet dips so low I can't confidently tell how close I am to other objects. So I'm thinking about getting the Optical Parking System added but would like to know:

1) Is it really useful and not just a gadget?

2) can it be added by the Dealer? the Golf Sales pamphlet doesn't list it as a Dealer accessory, so does that mean it's factory fitted only?

3) Will it work with my RCD 310 Stereo?

4) How much does it cost?

5) Is it just as good to have the front and rear parking sensors "beeping system" installed?

any feedback is appreciated

thanks

[Sawed Off]

Had our 118TSI for half a week. Wife has mentioned the same thing about seeing the front, so I'd also be interested in all those things you asked.

[hooba]

I've got the factory rear view camera and the factory front and rear sensors, and when reversing I find the camera a lot more useful than the rear sensors. That said, having the sensors on the front is also really useful, particularly given the fact that a factory system warns you how close you actually are and on which side with graphic lines on the stereo screen.

Your only choice now is to go aftermarket, and if you search there is a good thread in here on how to install the rear view camera yourself.

[Greygon]

Hi, I am a newbie in Brisbane.
Have the new GTI 35 edition - and loving it!

Really want to get a RVC and rear sensors as the car came with private rear glass, which I further tinted when I did the fronts - looks really good but not great for reversing and reverse parking. I am keen on an after market reverse camera that can hook up to the RCD 510 and then to have audible-only rear parking sensors as extra safety with the camera. Any suggestions on what I should be budgeting and any suggestions on who would be a reliable installer in the Brisbane region?
Thanks in advance

BTW, I got an invitation card on my car today to join this VW forum - whoever that was - thanks heaps.

[walbjj]

Rear ops will cost about $350 for parts alone. Whereas a rvc should cost about $1000-1200 installed .

[Ryan_R]

Genuine OEM camera can be purchased on eBay for roughly $600-$700, installing it is the tricky bit, but there's another thread here with comprehensive instructions written by other members. I'm still waiting for the Postie to deliver my camera :(

[javab0y]

Sorry to dredge up an old thread. Looking to get OPS done on my ED35. Can anyone confirm that this will definitely do the job: VW Golf Mk6 5K1 - Park Pilot Rear w. OPS - Candy White (http://www.carsystems.pl/vw-golf-mk6-5k1-park-pilot-rear-w-ops-candy-white,id302.html) (looks like it is already painted too!).

Thinking of getting it installed at Camden GTI - which is 2+ hours away; and a bit hard for me to get to on a weekday.

1) Bit worried about the wiring/battery issues stated earlier in the thread by walbjj etc. - would that still be a problem that the installer needs to be specifically aware of?
2) Can any auto electrician do it given the instructions that come with it (if I can do the VAGCOM myself) - that way I don't need to go to Sydney.
3) VW have quoted me $976 (including $275 labour) for the rears: V1K0054630B 084D01 Parking Sensor supply & install - but of course they can't 100% tell me whether it is Optical or not! They / I suspect it only beeps with no RNS integration but I definitely want the RNS integration. Anybody know?

Thanks in advance

[walbjj]

I had the rear ops system installed by Derek at ea. no issues with it. Been running for almost a yr and 13k km. works fine. No battery drain.
I bought mine from carsystems as well

[javab0y]

I had the rear ops system installed by Derek at ea. no issues with it. Been running for almost a yr and 13k km. works fine. No battery drain.
I bought mine from carsystems as well
Thanks walbjj; what about this problem from a couple of pages back:

So the ops system that I bought is communicating with the controller but not with the car. This same system, someones elses that is, works in some capacity on a mk5, but my mk6 is causing issues.
Markwid however managed to get it working somewhat in his mk6.
I've emailed the eBay vendor requesting proper info or a refund. I'm left with 4 holes in my bumper now.
Derek at EA has a complete front and rear unit which he says will work but it's more expensive. I might as well just get that now and save the mucking around. Pretty annoyed, but what can u do

that wasn't with the CarSystems unit I take it and I should be OK?
That's one of the posts that scared me off to be honest, I don't want to get the wrong unit.

Thanks

[walbjj]

im not sure if i detailed my entire saga with the install of the ops. i was the guinea pig with derek, as he never istalled one before, and it took a few visits, and a lot of labour hrs for him,but after contacting the right people, he got the correct info he needed, as the carsystems instructions are absolute rubbish and make no sense.
i should have done a detailed followup, but the end result was that derek got it installed correctly into my mk6 gti, with proper visual on the rcd510. no issues at all in the the time since install. everything beeps and lights up as it should.

[ziggyboy]

I bought front and rear OPS sensors from eBay and sold them shortly afterwards after learning of the exuberant costs involved in installing them. I opted for the reverse camera for my MK6 Jetta. Cost me $300 to deliver from eBay and $200 to install/code from a "VW specialist mechanic".

I have found it to be more useful than sensors (when I drive my sister's car). It will also show you things sensors can't like potholes or kerbs with uneven surfaces while parallel parking.

[javab0y]

Thanks ziggyboy:
I have just this morning ordered Rear OPS from Poland... I have been quoted 2-3 hours labour for the install of these, so not too bad?
(though, I do have to get to Sydney though from Canberra)

I guess *front* and back may cost a bit more... maybe double, so may not be worthwhile?

[kash_0]

Thanks ziggyboy:
I have just this morning ordered Rear OPS from Poland... I have been quoted 2-3 hours labour for the install of these, so not too bad?
(though, I do have to get to Sydney though from Canberra)

I guess *front* and back may cost a bit more... maybe double, so may not be worthwhile?

Hey,

Interested to see how it goes...who was the quote with in the end. Did you get the sensors pre-painted?

[javab0y]

Quote was from Camden GTI
Yes pre painted in candy white.
Bit worried about it as it is not as straight forward?

[javab0y]

I bought the carsystems.pl kit off eBay, cost was about $350. And Derek at ea in sydney installed after a few tries. Wasn't easy but in the end after getting all the correct info it worked out

Would you mind sharing the instructions? If anyone has them?
I ordered from car systems and got the parts this week (also it was branded Skoda, which they reckon should work?), but when asked for instructions they sent me the Polo one.

Their email communication is not great TBH...

[walbjj]

If u have read my posts regarding this, then u will probably knOw that this isn't really a DIY job unless u have an electrical background. I do not, and that's why I let Derek do the work.
Ur best bet is to contact Derek, but I think he will decline to give u info on how to install as he literally spent 20+ hrs working it out. He didn't charge me as he wanted to know how it worked.
That's pretty much it, stump up the time and cash and get someone else to install otherwise it will look good gathering dust in the drawer

[javab0y]

Thanks Walbjj... definitely no way I want to do it myself LOL!
I am wondering, given the instructions whether someone else in Canberra can do it for me (a pro). Eg an auto electrician, or Canberra VW Centre etc.
I have called around and some said they could do it but need to see the instructions.

EDIT: Also would rather not have to go up to SYD but even if I had to prefer it to be at the West end... eg. Camden GTI. Derek is on the 'wrong' side from Canberra.
Also was yours a Skoda Part?

[walbjj]

i bought from carsystems.pl on ebay. it was a "kit" that they pieced together themselves using skoda/audi/vw parts/ and their own in house wiring loom.
this is what causes the problem, the fact that they use their own wiring, so it doesnt mate well with the oem wiring when u try and plug it in, cos blue doesnt go with blue, as derek put it

[javab0y]

This is the instructions that they sent me (note PDF is about 2MB):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7953074/Polo%20PDC.pdf

Also they sent me the Polo one (not Golf)... have asked them for Golf but no response so far. Assuming it would be same / similar?
I wonder if this would be accurate and complete enough for a random auto electrician to use?

[mhh]

Can anyone who has installed the OPS comment on how the sensors fit the newly drilled bumper? There doesn't seem to be much of a bevel on the sensor rim to trim the hole. How neat is the look after the sensors are in? An paint chipping to spoil the look? ( a close-up pic would be great) :)

[walbjj]

Basically a hole is drilled into the bumPer x4, and the sensors (if u can imagine a circle on a rectangular base with double sided tape is fixed from inside). The circle then aligns flush with bumper, there is a dark ring where the hole is slightly larger than the round sensor.

As far as being a clean hole, it depends on the drill attachment. If u use a new one then it will make a cleaner cut. Otherwise there might be some burring. If the installer has an idea then it should be neat.
Take a look at any of the new vag cars with parking sensors fitted, they all use the same style of sensor.

[markwid]

Can anyone who has installed the OPS comment on how the sensors fit the newly drilled bumper? There doesn't seem to be much of a bevel on the sensor rim to trim the hole. How neat is the look after the sensors are in? An paint chipping to spoil the look? ( a close-up pic would be great) :)

http://img.skitch.com/20111008-k2miiahjkbtp4ma296nnj1wuia.jpg
http://img.skitch.com/20111230-k8kdue6npe5bud2p2rph3mjnp5.jpg

[mhh]

Thanks very much guys. That looks pretty tidy. I've sent all this to my installer.

I'm thinking it might be easier to do both the RVC and the OPS at the same time, rather than pull the car apart twice.

(next time, I'm ordering all options from the factory!) :)

[walbjj]

yep, thoose are the circles. as far as ordering options from the factory, sometimes u cant or dont want to at the time. and retrofitting is often cheaper. its the adventure i guess

[Tobes_WIR35]

IMHO if you can't successfully park a small hatchback like a Golf (without sensors, cameras, park assist), you really shouldn't be driving.

I came from a 4WD D40 Navara with 24" wheels and a turning circle like the QE2 and managed to park that okay. So by comparison the Golf is a walk in the park!

[walbjj]

IMHO if you can't successfully park a small hatchback like a Golf (without sensors, cameras, park assist), you really shouldn't be driving.

I came from a 4WD D40 Navara with 24" wheels and a turning circle like the QE2 and managed to park that okay. So by comparison the Golf is a walk in the park!

very true, the golf is a smallish hatchback for sure. the problem is the ridiculous blindspot and terrible rearward vision. ive owned many hatches and small cars in my 18 odd years of driving, and the gti is by far the worst.
i also use my brother 2011 hilux sr5 and that too is a prick to park.
its not a matter of not being able to park the car, its having the ops and rvc as an aid, cos all it takes is one brainfart and the cost of repairs equals having that option installed in the first place

[nat225]

........ all it takes is one brainfart and the cost of repairs equals having that option installed in the first place

+10000

it's the same thing with auto dipping left mirror or manually dipping it when parallel parking, all it takes is a brainfart or a simple clumsiness to kerb that unblemished 18" or 19" rear left wheel. it also keeps the marriage going when you share car with your missus, although "wear and tear" does happen eventually :facepalm:

i find RVC and rear sensors are very useful especially when reversing in a tight space.

[mhh]

IMHO if you can't successfully park a small hatchback like a Golf (without sensors, cameras, park assist), you really shouldn't be driving.

I came from a 4WD D40 Navara with 24" wheels and a turning circle like the QE2 and managed to park that okay. So by comparison the Golf is a walk in the park!

Why visit this thread then?

[markwid]

I got mine retrofitted mainly for the missus.

That said, It does aid me at times as well.


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[ziggyboy]

It's funny how people get so defensive when some jerk tries to act macho.

I had a reverse camera retrofitted. No shame in that. I have driven cars for over 10 years without sensors or cameras and never had any parking accidents. I got a camera fitted because I want to. So what? It helps me park. Doesn't mean I can't park.

And FYI, sensors and cameras are probably more useful than things like auto wipers and auto headlights. LOL!

[peedman]

IMHO why buy your food from the supermarket when you can grow it in your backyard. If you cant grow your own food then you shouldnt eat.

[Tobes_WIR35]

+10000
it also keeps the marriage going when you share car with your missus.

Ah yes I seemed to have overlooked that little issue....haha.

Apologies to those who evidently took offence by my whimsical and "tongue-in-cheek" comments. I'm not a jerk nor am I macho, but I do have a very high level of spatial awareness it seems.

[mhh]

IMHO why buy your food from the supermarket when you can grow it in your backyard. If you cant grow your own food then you shouldnt eat.

LOL. :D


Ah yes I seemed to have overlooked that little issue....haha.

Apologies to those who evidently took offence by my whimsical and "tongue-in-cheek" comments. I'm not a jerk nor am I macho, but I do have a very high level of spatial awareness it seems.

No offence taken. I should have added a :) to my reply. :)

[javab0y]

So has anyone got instructions on how to install these on a MK6 GTI?
(still waiting on the guys from Poland to send it to me.. keep saying "tomorrow"/"few days" and i want to get the unit installed!)

[walbjj]

sorry cant help, someone did it for me

[Tobes_WIR35]

I must admit that it's pretty cool how the camera is hidden behind the boot latch, and the engineering behind the park assist function is impressive.

[mhh]

If I want the front bumper to get sensors too, do I just order two kits? I sent carsystems.pl this question and they said they have a front AND rear kit coming for the Golf and to watch their website but I can't see such a kit. I want to get cracking!

:confused:

[jameshero]

don't order two kits, as your control module must be different to support the 8 sensors, and a button is required to activate the system, strange thing is carsystems.pl used to sell 8 sensor kits on eBay...

[mhh]

don't order two kits, as your control module must be different to support the 8 sensors, and a button is required to activate the system, strange thing is carsystems.pl used to sell 8 sensor kits on eBay...

Thanks for the tip. I'll give them another week and just go with the rears if nothing appears on the website.

[nat225]

has anyone had reverse sensors painted correctly & 100% colour matched in brisbane qld area?

denlo parramatta managed to paint the sensors whiter than the candy white when i bought the gti.
dealing with them to fix or a respray was a joke and t

[walbjj]

Weird that they don't come painted, I bought mine from eBay and they asked what colour and sent already painted. Matches up very closely.

[javab0y]

has anyone had reverse sensors painted correctly & 100% colour matched in brisbane qld area?
denlo parramatta managed to paint the sensors whiter than the candy white when i bought the gti.
dealing with them to fix or a respray was a joke and t
Did Denlo fit it for you as well? I am still looking for an installer (live in ACT) but no luck yet
Can't help with your question as I bought these (VW Golf Mk6 5K1 - Park Pilot Rear w. OPS - Candy White (http://www.carsystems.pl/vw-golf-mk6-5k1-park-pilot-rear-w-ops-candy-white,id302.html)) pre-painted in CW.
I am still waiting for instructions on how to install them (kept getting ignored, or told "tomorrow" everyday by them for more than a month or two since I got the unit from Poland).
Also mine was "Skoda" branded when I got it but they have said it shouldn't matter?
If I have the instructions I can at least see if a Car Stereo place can do the install for me in ACT..

[atlas]

Barloworld are offering me $550 to have rear sensors installed on my about to be delivered 103TDI.

Alternatively I can have the sensors plus their Solar Gard tint installed for $900.

Does it sound reasonable?

[javab0y]

Barloworld are offering me $550 to have rear sensors installed on my about to be delivered 103TDI.
I have a written quote from Lennock (ACT) for $978 for rear parking sensor supply/install (and that too: Audible only / NOT Optical OPS).. so I personally definitely would have got it at $550 (but only if it was the OPS variety). If just audible, I may have considered it, but probably not - even at $550 (personally).
I have ordered an after market OPS and that alone has already cost me $300 and then I have to get it installed on top (which I still can't find anyone to do in ACT).
So for $550, if it is an OPS I would definitely get it (in my circumstance).

[walbjj]

if its $550 for a vw OPS system, then that seems reasonable. but i reckon its just a beeping audible unit.
u better confirm what it is tho.
either way, i got mine from ebay for about $350 delivered and then installed by EA. works perfect, no issues, im happy with the unit. of course a rvc would be a step up, but then again, so is the price

[mhh]

I bought the rear sensor kit and camera from our Polish friends but I'm having some fun and games getting them working. My installer did a beautiful job on the bumper holes and camera install but they are struggling with the wiring on the sensors. My '12 car has orange/trace brown and orange/trace green can wire colours but the kit supplied has solid orange and brown (no trace). The installer thinks the kit might be designed for an '10 or '11 car.

Any suggestions? Should I ask carsystems.pl who sold me the stuff, or is that a waste of time?

FWIW, my installer is confident the VW dealer will be able to activate the rear camera at least.

[javab0y]

Any suggestions? Should I ask carsystems.pl who sold me the stuff, or is that a waste of time?

I bought OPS from them as well... good luck getting a response! I have been emailing them literally more than 2x a week since i got the unit for MK6 Golf Install Instructions (more than 10-20 emails!) and the answer is always {no response, "soon", "tomorrow"}. No luck still. I had confirmed with them prior to purchasing that instructions will be supplied too!

Who did you get to install, can I ask? I can send you Polo instructions (which they sent me... infact I may have posted it in this thread from memory - have a look a few pages back?), that may help?

EDIT: Found the Polo instructions.. it is on this thread, Post #88 if that helps.

[jameshero]

Step 1 : look at which pins on the ops module the two wires connect to
Step 2 : look at wiring diagram of ops module on Erwin/Elsawin to determine what the pins are supposed to be connected to, ie canbus low, powertrain canbus high
Step 3 : look at wiring diagram of canbus gateway on Erwin/elsawin to determine which pins are for canbus low and powertrain canbus high
Step 4 : connect wires between pins determined in step 2 and step 3

[mhh]

Who did you get to install, can I ask? I can send you Polo instructions (which they sent me... infact I may have posted it in this thread from memory - have a look a few pages back?), that may help?

EDIT: Found the Polo instructions.. it is on this thread, Post #88 if that helps.

My install was done by a local car hifi shop that I've used for other accessories. The instructions that came with the sensors don't seem to have been accurate.

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Step 1 : look at which pins on the ops module the two wires connect to
Step 2 : look at wiring diagram of ops module on Erwin/Elsawin to determine what the pins are supposed to be connected to, ie canbus low, powertrain canbus high
Step 3 : look at wiring diagram of canbus gateway on Erwin/elsawin to determine which pins are for canbus low and powertrain canbus high
Step 4 : connect wires between pins determined in step 2 and step 3

Thanks jameshero. I'll pass on your suggestions.

[walbjj]

as mentioned previously, i had a hell of a time with my install. i actually got responses from them and they eventually put me in contact with their man on the ground in oz.
all the technical stuff wrt installing is above my head, but derek at EA got in contact with the guy and with that info was able to install the OPS into my car successfully.

i know it might seem like a mission, but it seems like no one else is putting up their hand to install this in your area, so i think ur going to have to bite the bullet and organise a day to get it done at EA.

[mhh]

i know it might seem like a mission, but it seems like no one else is putting up their hand to install this in your area, so i think ur going to have to bite the bullet and organise a day to get it done at EA.

If I was in Sydney, I would. But I'm in Adelaide. Do you have contact info for carsytems.pl's man on the ground in Australia?

[walbjj]

ive since lost his phone number, but he is a electrical engineering consultant to vw australia. he designs and does a lot of electrical work/ systems for the cars.
i put derek in contact with him to get to the bottom of the OPS issue as derek couldnt get it to work with the ****ty carsystems instructions, which btw are incorrect. wires and colours are completely wrong in their instructions.
your best bet is to email EA and ask him what the procedure is and tell him ur interstate.

[jameshero]

just got home and had a look in my Current Flow Diagram Book from Erwin, here are all the connections to the OPS module, besides those that connect to sensors, the button and the buzzers.

For the OPS control unit...
16 pin connector, pin 6 is Powertrain CAN bus, high
16 pin connector, pin 15 is Powertrain CAN bus, low
16 pin connector, pin 1 is Positive power (according to Current Flow Diagram should be connected to Fuse 4)
16 pin connector, pin 8 is Earth

For the Data bus diagnostic interface i.e. CAN bus gateway
20 pin connector, pin 16 is Powertrain CAN bus, high
20 pin connector, pin 6 is Powertrain CAN bus, low

if you pm your email address I could send you the relevant pages which you could give to your auto-electrician.

[mhh]

Thank you! PM sent

Edit: Oops, now sent properly. :o

[jameshero]

email sent

[mhh]

This is proving tougher than I'd hoped. My installer can get neither the OPS nor the camera working. I've been back and forth to the dealer as well. I'm close to giving up - it's starting to feel like throwing good money after bad - but I'll try one more time with the dealer who has a tech who is trying really hard to get it working. How far away is the Mk 7 again?

[jameshero]

did they manage to connect it? if so, can you provide a print out of the VCDS scan?

[mhh]

did they manage to connect it? if so, can you provide a print out of the VCDS scan?

I'm sorry I don't know what a VCDS scan is. The dealer and installer have both consulted the info you provided (thanks!) and some suggestions from carsystems.pl about which wire goes where but nothing works. I did see a printout at the dealer showing a whole lot of stuff that made no sense to me. All I know is that I was foolish to buy the equipment despite plenty of warnings here. I'm just about over it. Fortunately, the car is for my daughter's use and she doesn't really mind. :)

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your best bet is to email EA and ask him what the procedure is and tell him ur interstate.

Thanks for this suggestion. My installer claims he rang EA (at my suggestion) but found them unable or unwilling to help because I wasn't their customer. I've no way of knowing exactly what happened here of course.

[jameshero]

I'm sorry I don't know what a VCDS scan is. The dealer and installer have both consulted the info you provided (thanks!) and some suggestions from carsystems.pl about which wire goes where but nothing works. I did see a printout at the dealer showing a whole lot of stuff that made no sense to me.

VCDS is a cable/software package that can be used to program a cars electronics, and search for errors. The printout would show the errors that the unit is giving, provided they managed to wire it up correctly. Was unsure whether your auto electrician would have one, but dealers have a commercial product similar to it anyway. Sorry to hear it didn't work out, have you spoken to them about returning it on account of their crappy instructions?


My installer claims he rang EA (at my suggestion) but found them unable or unwilling to help because I wasn't their customer. I've no way of knowing exactly what happened here of course.

Had a similar experience, wouldn't speak to me as I wasn't happy to make the trip to Sydney. I suppose I didn't really expect anything from him, though it would have been nice to lend a hand considering we are interstate.

[mhh]

, have you spoken to them about returning it on account of their crappy instructions?



No, the parts are installed now and it would cost more to remove them and repair bumper holes then ship the goods than I would get for the stuff in credit - in the unlikely event that carsystems.pl would agree to it. Live and learn. I was going cheap when I bought the car new when I didn't need to.

I've bought a couple of other new cars since and I made damn sure I ordered them with all options of interest from the outset.

[javab0y]

Sorry to hear... if this helps:
I got the Golf instructions (finally!) from carsystems.pl just now http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7953074/Golf%20PDC.pdf (2.2MB)
Good luck. I must admit your experience has put me off installing this thing now too. Might have to make the interstate trip to SYD and shell out the money at EA.
Let me know how you go with the instructions linked

[markwid]

Sorry to hear... if this helps:
I got the Golf instructions (finally!) from carsystems.pl just now http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7953074/Golf%20PDC.pdf (2.2MB)
Good luck. I must admit your experience has put me off installing this thing now too. Might have to make the interstate trip to SYD and shell out the money at EA.
Let me know how you go with the instructions linked

Alternative place in Sydney is VWvillage (speak to George). He did mine sometime back.

[javab0y]

Alternative place in Sydney is VWvillage (speak to George). He did mine sometime back.
Thanks, that was the CarSystems.pl unit right? Whereabouts in SYD are they?

[mhh]

Solitaire just called. They got the rear camera working. :D

Still working on the parking sensors.

[jameshero]

well, good to here something is working :D, and in my opinion the camera is the better one of the two options

[MrGTIandRfan]

What are your thoughts people?

I like the fact that the VW kit can show a display on the RCD/RNS display.

[Belix]

Hi Folks
Found this thread from google and signed up just for it.
Half way through retrofitting the kufatec kit, but got some question...
The kit isntructions are in german, and made for a LHS so it makes things interesting...as it is, I have changed the pins for the rear sensor plug as my wires come down the right side instead of the left (when I laid the RVC wires), so I figured it should be reversed...

Anyway, the instructions show the canbus module near the brake pedal for a LHD car, but it is not there for RHD. I have found what I think is the module under the inspection plate under the winscreen wiper motor.
I just want to be 100% sure I am connecting to the right module. This is the right module, right? And I use pin 6 and 16?

Second, I need to thread the wiring for the front sensors throught the firewall. Yes I can drill a hole in this inspection plate, but that seems a bit rough. Would prefer to go through a grommet somewhere. There is one in the passenger footwell, but it's a pig to get wiring through from the inside out (i have down it from outside, behind the battery, inwards. Also, I'm not sure they are long enough to get from the module on the drivers side across to the left. Is there another way to lay the wiring?

Lastly, the kufatec instructions say to connect the wire for the button lighting to PIN 51 on plug B of the CECM module. However, their is a wire in there already, and the terminal is different from the one kufatec puts on teh end of the wire, making me wonder if they gave the right pin. Does anyone know which pin on the CECM gives power for the lighting of the switches?

Has anyone converted the OPC to full park assist? It needs a different module, two sensors and the wiring, and liekly some programming, but not sure it anything else needs changing.

Thanks for any help!

Cheers

[javab0y]

Count me up as another number in the casualty / lesson learnt category.
My Polish unit got attempted to be installed today, but the installer could not get it going. Spent 4 hours on it...
Even with the instructions (link somewhere above that I posted) that were given by CarSystems.pl which looked simple enough. :-(
Bit disappointed.
If anyone can think of anything (based on this post: http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f78/ops-question-does-skoda-part-work-vw-mk-6-a-69479-new-post.html) that could help, please feel free to let me know.

EDIT: I guess on the plus side, the wiring and leg-work has now been done, so if I am ever in Sydney I could try Derek (EA) or George (VW Village)
Another option is to rip out everything and just put in a generic one.

[walbjj]

Sucks that ur guy can't get it working, but as I said many times, ea spent well over 20 hrs on mine as the guinea pig. I had to go back on 3 different occasions and leave the car there overnight/ few days.
In hindsight, I would do it again as the initial pain is only temporary and now with over a year of ownership, I can't even really remember the fuss.

[Belix]

got it working eventually. In hindsight, I find the retrofitted RVC of more use, but it's helpful to have in tight parking spaces

[javab0y]

Great that you got it going.
I gave up and put in generic ones in the end. Car is also sold and long gone since.
I do still have the OPS unit up in the For Sale section if anyone wants it; your post just reminded me.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=90786

[Belix]

Sorry to hear yours did not work out. Yeah was difficult even with the German instructions but at least could get it done myself. Best of luck selling them, your price is a steal, should have sold already. Guess maybe installation is putting them off? I can send the badly translated English instruction I have if it will help with the sale?