'76 MK1 1.8T AGU Conversion

[dubsquad]

There's a couple guys on here that know about it but anyway here it is...
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/04/IMG_00621-1.jpg
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Soon this will be out...
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/04/DSC00068-1.jpg

and replaced with this
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/04/various008-1.jpg

It will be running Qpeng management with K04-001 turbo bolted to Golfloon's infamous TDI gearbox. So far i got most of the parts needed except the turbo,engine management and 8v clutch.

The turbo should arrive in the next couple of days:banana:. Spoke with Ben from Qpeng and he's picking the engine harness up tomorrow so will probably take a week or so to modify it and send everything back and the clutch i'll have to order from GAP.

I'm happy to hear from guys that have done this conversion and the problems they encountered.

So watch this space...

Leigh

[Oneofthegreats]

Nice dude.

Looks like you've got a clean, straight & rust free base to work with too.


Look forward to updates.

If your getting a clutch, I'd suggest getting an upgraded one over a stock replacement 100%.

Also. the only difficulty will be the AGU engine mount & gearbox mounts, but if you good at welding/fabricating, you'll have no drama's.

I suggest using a mk1 diesel engine mount as a bases for your custom engine side mount as these are a much larger & stiffer rubber mount than the normal stock petrol version.

Would only recommend genuine VW mounts too. I've tried all sorts of different brand mounts & most of them sag within a few weeks.

Another tip when using a AGU. You'll need to remove the Hydro cambelt tensioner & replace it with a 16V manual tensioner & a standard 16V stud & you'll also need a spacer fitted behind the tensioner to space out & keep the cambelt alignment spot on. Use a stock AGU cambelt.



If your not sure about my info, I actually mounted an AGU 20vt into my gti in 2000/01, but ran out of funds to finish it off, as I built a tough V8 ute instead. hahaha. Still don't regret either.


My only other suggestion would to be trawl through "vortex" or "clubgti" about the ins/outs, whats/wheres of this conversion. There is some very nice installs out there!!!

Other than that. Good luck with it all.

[dubsquad]

Thanks mate, i know i need all the luck i can get. I've already got the driver's side engine mount with heavy duty bush from a dude in the UK that makes them but will change all the bushes to prothane ones soon.
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You need a 8-10mm spacer for the timing belt to align with the rest of the pulleys and 16v tensioner.

Clutch wise i'll go for the heavy duty sachs clutch as other aftermarket ones arent really for daily driving.

I've probably been through all the built threads on Vortex,the mk1 owners club and on here. Will scroll through "clubgti" tonight.

Thanks

[GoLfMan]

nice mate!

I'll be watching this with great interest :)

[cartertronic]

nice mate!

I'll be watching this with great interest :)

Diddo!

So much awesomeness...

I'm really keen to learn more about these conversions.

Kudos and best of luck! :D

[vert1]

There's a couple guys on here that know about it but anyway here it is...

It will be running Qpeng management with K04-001 turbo bolted to Golfloon's infamous TDI gearbox. So far i got most of the parts needed except the turbo,engine management and 8v clutch.

The turbo should arrive in the next couple of days:banana:. Spoke with Ben from Qpeng and he's picking the engine harness up tomorrow so will probably take a week or so to modify it and send everything back and the clutch i'll have to order from GAP.

I'm happy to hear from guys that have done this conversion and the problems they encountered.

So watch this space...

Leigh

Run a factory ecu with something like Eurodyne Maestro map, better than any aftermarket ecu.
We run a 1.8T with a GT3071 turbo, 630cc injectors and all on factory computer, IMMO removed.
Runs as smooth as silk, retains all VAG-COM diagnostics and we are able to self adjust the tune if required.

[dubsquad]

Run a factory ecu with something like Eurodyne Maestro map, better than any aftermarket ecu.
We run a 1.8T with a GT3071 turbo, 630cc injectors and all on factory computer, IMMO removed.
Runs as smooth as silk, retains all VAG-COM diagnostics and we are able to self adjust the tune if required.

Reason i going with the Qpeng management is for a straight forward installation, only the necessary wiring in the engine bay, its fully programmable and if i have any problems i can just give Ben a call or someone else on here thats using it. I wouldnt know where start when looking at factory ECU and all its wiring. I'm buying the full setup with K04 map and CAN interface for self tuning as well. My plan is to learn the software before i go bigger.

[roccodingo]

Prolly one of the most informative web pages around for info is kirsten's 1.8T into a Mk 1 Scirocco site

All Things Scirocco and Turn Signals for the Mk 1 (http://www.funksoulkitty.org/)

and Andy's scirocco builds...

VWvortex Forums: The official 20v (to start with and then FSi with 4wd) build thread aka "Brits Gone Wild!!" (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1894286)

and the other car...

VWvortex Forums: The polov8 3 day 1.8t mega-swap (aka skinned knuckle fest ) (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3218953)

Scirocco is identical to the MK 1 golf except the rocco has a slightly lower hood line.
Both of these guy's are major attention to detail maniacs, but very thorough in there builds, plus there both friends of mine. :cool:

[roccodingo]

Run a factory ecu with something like Eurodyne Maestro map, better than any aftermarket ecu.
We run a 1.8T with a GT3071 turbo, 630cc injectors and all on factory computer, IMMO removed.
Runs as smooth as silk, retains all VAG-COM diagnostics and we are able to self adjust the tune if required.

Any links on who did the immobiliser defeat bud ??

[aprr32]

With your clutch, we run a lightened t4 4cyl flywheel and t4 5cyl clutch kit.This will be compatable with a dsl gearbox and the price is kept low.Been running this set up in the caddy since 03 with no problems.

[dubsquad]

Thanks Grant, some great info there. I'll be running a Eurospec lightened flywheel with 16v pressure plate and heavy duty Sachs 8v (24 spline)clutch.

Update: Did a bit of maintenance - Removed valve cover to change leaky gasket.
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New waterpump, thermostat and engine mount fitted.
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Cleaned and painted valve cover and inlet manifold
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All back to together with S3 injectors.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/04/DSC00081-2.jpg

Also got a 9mm spacer made yesterday to space the tensioner out, only thing now is to get a bolt for it. Will the standard 8v tensioner bolt fit?

Cheers
Leigh

[Oneofthegreats]

Also got a 9mm spacer made yesterday to space the tensioner out, only thing now is to get a bolt for it. Will the standard 8v tensioner bolt fit?




Nice look dude!! Love the black finish


The standard tensioner stud should fit. I know mine did.


Just a note on the clutch. Depending on how much power you may/may not make, I'd be suspect on the HD clutch.

I ran a Sachs Heavy Clutch myself up until recently & it exploded the clutch disc from the power of a mild 8V turbo setup.

Thats not with clutch dumps or race starts or anything. Justaccelerating & feeding the power on.

[dubsquad]

Will have to look into it, maybe go for the bigger 228mm setups at a later stage. I would like to stay with a 020 gearbox as it's a straight swap. According to the Qpeng site with K03s you'll be looking at 230hp. Hopefully i'll get around the same figure.

[GoLfMan]

this is great! keep it up :D

[tommymac]

Will have to look into it, maybe go for the bigger 228mm setups at a later stage. I would like to stay with a 020 gearbox as it's a straight swap. According to the Qpeng site with K03s you'll be looking at 230hp. Hopefully i'll get around the same figure.

Yer man, i used a ACT clutch and its great, my 020 is OK touch wood and i just laid down 249 hp, nice paint man what did you use?

I think if you want hard starts though you need an 02a with pelo and 020 would die in the ass with a lsd IMO.

230hp from the Peng boys is a tad overstated imo, i mean with a ok tune at 15psi mine pulled 249hp and thats with a gt28rs which is **** loads bigger than a k03s, still mine had a massive boost leak so who know i would be keen to see yours done tho mate its looks fing great.

[Jarred]

looks goods! can't wait to see more

[dubsquad]

Yer man, i used a ACT clutch and its great, my 020 is OK touch wood and i just laid down 249 hp, nice paint man what did you use?

I think if you want hard starts though you need an 02a with pelo and 020 would die in the ass with a lsd IMO.

230hp from the Peng boys is a tad overstated imo, i mean with a ok tune at 15psi mine pulled 249hp and thats with a gt28rs which is **** loads bigger than a k03s, still mine had a massive boost leak so who know i would be keen to see yours done tho mate its looks fing great.

I used high temp "VHT wrinkle plus" black paint, got it from a local spares shop here. Saw a couple of UK cars with it so just had to do it! I know cable shift would be the go if you want to go for big hp but for now the TDi 020 gearbox will do. The K04-001 is the is almost the same as the K03s it just holds boost a bit longer. Will try to extract every last hp out of it!! Is that 249 whp?

Cheers
Leigh

[tommymac]

yer sweet it looks tits man,

yer 249 at the wheels was their reading at the fly? 020 TDI what are they from? all o2o's are cable shift tho! unless there the mk4 ones?

[Oneofthegreats]

yer sweet it looks tits man,

yer 249 at the wheels was their reading at the fly? 020 TDI what are they from? all o2o's are cable shift tho! unless there the mk4 ones?

wheels or flywheel? your sentence if confusing sorry

020's are rod change by the way. Even upto Mk4

TDI 020's would be as the name suggests. Turbo diesel mk3's at a guess.

[jayjay]

diesel and turbo diesel mk2s i think are where most of those 020 boxes come from.

don't the 1z tdi mk3s come with a cable change 02a?

that's some nice power down for a mk2 tommy. how do i not see this car?

[dubsquad]

Tommy, mine is from an early mk3 TDI which uses the smaller input shaft with bigger bearing (same as Loon's Scirocco) but with the longer gears i might have to add a dose of N20 to get through them quicker!!

[tommymac]

Tommy, mine is from an early mk3 TDI which uses the smaller input shaft with bigger bearing (same as Loon's Scirocco) but with the longer gears i might have to add a dose of N20 to get through them quicker!!

ah yer ok are they stronger? Mate an agu with a k04 is nothing to sneeze at in a mk1 you will smash things on a rolling start! Off the line its just FWD fail unless you have a LSD but then you will need a 02a and 100mm axles as you will start crunching stuff. To be fair with the k03 the car has a feel nice feel and was great, no its raw as hell but still great. You will love it mate

[dubsquad]

ah yer ok are they stronger? Mate an agu with a k04 is nothing to sneeze at in a mk1 you will smash things on a rolling start! Off the line its just FWD fail unless you have a LSD but then you will need a 02a and 100mm axles as you will start crunching stuff. To be fair with the k03 the car has a feel nice feel and was great, no its raw as hell but still great. You will love it mate

The TDI gearboxes are made to handle alot more torque than the normal petrol 020's, the one i'm using got the 100mm axles. For this gearbox i'll just buy an ARP diff bolt kit and leave the LSD for when i change to Cable shift.

[roccodingo]

Diesel tank is available but you will have to buy the whole car sans engine and transmission , he wants $100 for it Leigh. lemme know what your wish to do. If I knew you were after a tank I could have prob got you a new one last UK trip...

[dubsquad]

Diesel tank is available but you will have to buy the whole car sans engine and transmission , he wants $100 for it Leigh. lemme know what your wish to do. If I knew you were after a tank I could have prob got you a new one last UK trip...

mate, if i had the space i would buy it and just chuck the 1600 engine and gearbox in it. I got a tank from Golfloon tho but that wouldve been good as a second project.

[dubsquad]

Somewhat of a update:
Finally got someone to make a spacer for the tensioner.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/04/DSC00088-1.jpg

Tensioner fitted with new timing belt.
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Gave the gearbox a bit of a clean today and while turning it over some of the fluid dripped out, so what type or brand of transmission fluid would you guys recommend for the 020's?

Cheers
Leigh

[Tommie]

Looking very good. Cant wait to see this one in the flesh!

[h100vw]

Redline oil for the box. MT90 I think for 020s MTL for 02As.

Gavin

[dubsquad]

Redline oil for the box. MT90 I think for 020s MTL for 02As.

Gavin

Thanks Gavin, will get some tomorrow.

[dubsquad]

OK, did some work last couple days. Changed the release bearing and input shaft seals on the gearbox. The small seal inside the shaft was a b**** to get out!

The pressure plate bolted on...
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Clutch aligned and eurospec flywheel torque'd up...
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Gearbox bolted on...
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Now if the turbo will just find it's way here , then i can have a crack at putting this bad boy in!
Ah well the long wait....

[roccodingo]

Did you replace the tiny bearing that lives inside the gearbox input shaft as well as the seal ?? good idea to while it was apart... ??

[dubsquad]

Did you replace the tiny bearing that lives inside the gearbox input shaft as well as the seal ?? good idea to while it was apart... ??

Dont know if we're talking about the same thing Grant but I changed the copper-looking gear/bush behind that little seal.

[roccodingo]

Thats the puppy !! well done ;)

[Antonvs]

Looks like a great conversion on a good looking Perth Mk1!
I'll Prob be looking to do something similar when my Standard engine decides to give up.
Where did you manage to find your Ronal Turbos?

[dubsquad]

I was lucky to buy them with the car but you can score a set from Rimstyle in the UK. Carshine in OZ can also get them but at twice the price as to ordering it direct from the UK, thats without tyres!!!(think it was $530/wheel). Also i think there's a guy on here that got a set for sale.

[dubsquad]

Ok, time for a update. Been slacking the past couple of days but got a couple items to tick off the checklist.

Got the old engine and gearbox out. Busy getting the manifold,downpipe and driveshafts out now.
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Finally the UPS fairy arrived and brought me this....
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/05/DSC00128-1.jpg
Spankin new Borg warner K04-001
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/05/DSC00131-1.jpg

Will get it bolted on tonight and maybe get the engine in as well.


Cheers
Leigh

[Jarred]

excellent! can't wait

[Golf Loon]

Good luck bolting that in. I will be interested to see how it clears the Booster and linkage bar setup.

[dubsquad]

Turbo bolted up and after a small fight... it's in!!!!
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/05/DSC00135-1.jpg


Good luck bolting that in. I will be interested to see how it clears the Booster and linkage bar setup.

Matt there's enough space at the back to park a bus in! Check it...(Sorry for the crappy pics)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/05/DSC00134-1.jpg

Everything clears well with nothing touching or rubbing anywhere.

Cheers
Leigh

[16v_kid]

Truly amazing! good stuff man.

[Jarred]

Nice one! now just get it running!

have you got the loom and ECU already?

[GoLfMan]

thats awesome!!!

I'm waiting to see how you're going to go with the downpipe!

[Speed]

Leigh your a legend!
Nice work and fantastic job.

Can't wait to see a video of her running.
:)

[dubsquad]

Thanks gents,

Jarred, i tracked the Qpeng parcel and its at customs here so will probably get a bill soon but i got enough to keep me busy so long.

I sent a buddy a couple of pics of the fitted engine and he sent me this...
YouTube - Scorchin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSS8eOPn5Gw)
YouTube - Ace Ventura - "Like a glove" Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nOxdKcqC_I)

Cheers
Leigh

[tommymac]

Thanks gents,

Jarred, i tracked the Qpeng parcel and its at customs here so will probably get a bill soon but i got enough to keep me busy so long.

I sent a buddy a couple of pics of the fitted engine and he sent me this...
YouTube - Scorchin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSS8eOPn5Gw)
YouTube - Ace Ventura - "Like a glove" Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nOxdKcqC_I)

Cheers
Leigh

Tommy hows it all going, ? yer the peng is good to wire up not hard at all are you doing your own loom?

[dubsquad]

Tommy hows it all going, ? yer the peng is good to wire up not hard at all are you doing your own loom?

Nah mate, when it comes to wiring i'd have to pass. I sent the loom and throttlebody for them to modify. The driveshafts are bolted up, Turbo inlet pipe is on and re-routed the water lines that go to the heater. Also, I have to modify the one shifter linkage as it swings against the compressor housing. Will post pics up later.

Cheers
Leigh

[dubsquad]

Not alot done so far but anyway...
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The linkage that i had to modify to clear the compressor housing
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To this
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Now i've fitted the 5 speed linkages and it's still a 4 speed. Is there anything else i need to get/modify to shorten the side to side movement to engage 5th?

[Water Boy]

Nice work mate!

[roccodingo]

The linkage that i had to modify to clear the compressor housing

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/05/DSC00140-1.jpg

Now i've fitted the 5 speed linkages and it's still a 4 speed. Is there anything else i need to get/modify to shorten the side to side movement to engage 5th?

I hope you made the centre to centre distance of the shaft to the linkage hole about 40 mm longer, that will give you a shorter shift , Check it doesnt bind when moving thru all gears.

[dubsquad]

I hope you made the centre to centre distance of the shaft to the linkage hole about 40 mm longer, that will give you a shorter shift , Check it doesnt bind when moving thru all gears.

It's doesn't bind mate, it's the same as it was with the old 4 speed. The distance between the holes are exactly the same as the stock one so no short shift. Damn!

Leigh

[dubsquad]

Time for a update, sorry guys wasnt slacking just away with work. Got the Qpeng management with harness and downpipe. Mine's setup with High/Low boost switch and all relay's for the fuel pump.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/06/DSC00169-2.jpg

The downpipe..
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/06/DSC00172-2.jpg


I also started mocking-up the intercooler piping. Just need to use 1 part of the original piping which got the little 6mm nozzle for the boost controller.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/06/DSC00167-2.jpg

The intercooler will be mounted low to give sufficient space for the throttle body piping. I wanted to fit the dumpvalve before the throttle body but it's really tight in there so it's gonna go before the intercooler.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/06/DSC00165-2.jpg

Also had to remove the original radiator fan shroud and fit a slim fan to clear a bit of space. The other issue i had was the fuel tank cause i need a gravity feed tank like the GTI one. I bought a 2nd hand Diesel one but decided not to use it as was just full of sludge and crap that didn't want to flush out so now i'm awaiting a new one from the US. All and all it's getting there tho.

Cheers
Leigh

[DubSteve]

Damm this car will fly once its finished :D

[Jarred]

Nice work, keep at it! you'll get there eventually!

how did you find the qpeng loom? easy to fit etc etc?

[dubsquad]

Nice work, keep at it! you'll get there eventually!

how did you find the qpeng loom? easy to fit etc etc?

Jarred, I haven't wired it up yet but looks simple enough to fit up. All the new wiring to the loom is nicely tagged to show where they wire up to. I did have Ben add in relays for the fuel pump to make it easier. For tuning I want to get a 3.5mm jack extension cable to have the OBD2 interface inside the car, I also want to fix the ECU inside the car rather than in the bulkhead.

I'm going to use Innovate LM2 wideband data logger for tuning so the downpipe also need another o2sensor bung TIG welded on to it but that's another issue.

Leigh

[tommymac]

my data logger is ****e it has not worked with any of my laptops and innovate are rubbish at support, however, I found just a simple guage easy to use and tune (with two people) really the logger makes more sense. Wish peng has wide band in it

[dubsquad]

my data logger is ****e it has not worked with any of my laptops and innovate are rubbish at support, however, I found just a simple guage easy to use and tune (with two people) really the logger makes more sense. Wish peng has wide band in it

Apparently they did have a external datalogger with it previously but dont stock'em anymore. Wish i could get time off to finish the car, basically got everything now to finish it!

Cheers
Leigh

[GeorgeMK1]

Woaaahh man, this looks really good. Hopefully it'll be done soon!!

Goodluck :)

[skoota]

thats awesome!!
saw this thing on jackstands the other week.
Can't wait to see this thing on the road :)

Scott

[GOLFBALLS]

Hey Leigh, just been reading through here. You've got more done in a few months than i did in three years so well done man!

I'll be interested to see how it runs and how the mapping goes as thats the stage i'm at now and it's becoming an issue. Plug n play is the name but plug, muck about with software, tune, re-tune & then play is more like the reality!

Keep goin man!

[h100vw]

I have an Innovate Data logger. The LM1 had a problem and failed due to a bung component overheating after a few minutes. They repaired it and returned it to me even out of warranty.

I admit it wasn't the easiest of things to get my head round but with the Aux Box connected it gave great logging capability.

Gavin

[dubsquad]

Sorry guys for not replying earlier, work has been keeping me busy the past couple of weeks. Thanks Wade, what type of wideband are you using to tune with mate? Looks like the main issue with the tuning is getting your head around the software.

You have to weld the wideband sensor bung about 6 inches away from the turbo to get accurate readings according to innovate website.

Update: The new fuel tank is fitted, wiring loom plugged in, intercooler and radiator mounted.
Will add pictures when I get back into town and hopefully get enough time off to get it done.

Cheers
Leigh

[Tommie]

Welcome back Leigh!!! Now get this car running already.

[dubmc]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/06/DSC00165-1.jpg

yes! that is sweet

[MeeM]

Great work Leigh. Can't wait for this baby to hit the roads!

[h100vw]

You have to weld the wideband sensor bung about 6 inches away from the turbo to get accurate readings according to innovate website.


Are you sure it's that close? When I fitted one in my A3, I had it welded at the same distance from the turbo as the standard one, which is much more than 6 inches away.

Gavin

[dubsquad]

Ok Gents, started the bad boy late last night. Idling straight and loud as f**k!!! Started 1st time as well. It was a huge relief to hear it run.

Will postup a video tomorrow.

Few issues - Small water leak by the housing to the cylinder head (will get new O-ring tomorrow)
Rev counter not working (will contact qpeng)
Oil light stays on (faulty switch maybe?)

Now the real troubleshooting starts.

Cheers
Leigh

[dubsquad]

Sorry for the crappy video quality.

http://s545.photobucket.com/albums/hh397/dubsquad_2008/?action=view&current=PB090157.mp4

Water leak is fixed, waiting for new oil pressure switch. Tacho still not working...yet.

Cheers

[GOLFBALLS]

Woohoo nice work. Its a great feeiling isnt it?!

[AusScare]

Nice work, looks great!

[dubsquad]

Yeah dude, still pretty stoked bout it! Must say more relieved that i didnt buy a dud motor.

[Jace]

****ing oath! Congratulations dude!

[hitoriko]

how much has it cost you so far?

[dubsquad]

how much has it cost you so far?

So far about +-$8500 for the conversion.

Thanks gents, glad you like.

Cheers

[tommymac]

Chicken Dinner mate, well down still love the black mani.

[hitoriko]

i've been thinking a b16/b18 vtec engine could be abit oif fun with a MK1....

[dubsquad]

Thanks lads, took it around block a couple times today. You can hear the turbo spool up loud as hell with just a bit of throttle. On low boost it loses traction in 1st and a bit in 2nd. Havent tried high boost yet.

Low revs(idling) is a bit ruff but higher up its fine. Its booked in for the exhaust on Tuesday morning.

Will plug in the MBE interface later to play around with the software a bit.


Cheers
Leigh

[gldgti]

i've been thinking a b16/b18 vtec engine could be abit oif fun with a MK1....

Please tell us you were feeling sick when you typed that.

[hitoriko]

Please tell us you were feeling sick when you typed that.
*ZIPS UP FLAME SUIT*

ahaha - i was waiting for how long it would take...

not sick mate just wondering of the conversion posibilites - i mean i know any conversion is possible with the right $$$ but bang for buck a b16/b18 could but a good option, huge after market support locally, many engine builds to look at etc..etc..

I persoanlly wouldn't do this but then again im not the kinda person so stray from the brand.

[Jarred]

not a good option cause it doesn't fit. the money time you spend mucking around putting in a stnadard engine, you could put a turbo ABF 16V 2.0L in make twice the power, without building up a sweat!

[Jace]

*ZIPS UP FLAME SUIT*

ahaha - i was waiting for how long it would take...

not sick mate just wondering of the conversion posibilites - i mean i know any conversion is possible with the right $$$ but bang for buck a b16/b18 could but a good option, huge after market support locally, many engine builds to look at etc..etc..

I persoanlly wouldn't do this but then again im not the kinda person so stray from the brand.

Ha ****. Not sure if it's the B-series engines, but one of them spins the other way. As in, you'd have the gearbox on the drivers side.
There's a few K-swapped MK1's in the US, but you pretty much would only do it if you're Asian.

[dubbed_up_daz]

It does though,there are a couple floating about over here as well,the engine and box are backassward(1.6/1.8 and 2.0 all sit with the box on the lhs of the bay as you look in) and the runs I seen on the rolling road sounded nice but for the power you could easily do an NA ABF to match and run all over the torque figures into the bargain. A 20vt in a tin top mk1 for the track is in my future,nice reading your progress :)

[dubsquad]

Spoke with Ben from Qpeng and I need a oil pressure switch to match warning light. Can anybody confirm which pressure switch mk1 8v's use? 1.4 or 1.8bar?

[dubsquad]

I bought a oil pressure switch for the earlier model VW's but the light still stays on. I need one thats normally closed and operates at 1.4-1.8 bar. The one i got now is normally open and the light is off when you switch the ignition on but goes on when you start it. Anybody know where i can find such a switch?

Thanks
Leigh

[GOLFBALLS]

Mate what was the original engine code? I'll have a look at work.
Btw, I dont have a high pressure oil switch at all on mine yet. Not only does it flash constantly, but it makes an ear-piercing buzzing sound!!!

[dubsquad]

Hey Wade, Cant remember the engine code but the old 1.6 engine only had one switch on the cylinder head which is low pressure and normally open. The switch on top of the AGU oil filter housing is a high pressure one thats normally closed.
I need a low pressure one from the mk1's. Would you have one in stock?

Thanks
Leigh

[GOLFBALLS]

I have a couple left. $13.05 in the BERU brand. It's the 0.25 bar white one.

[dubsquad]

I have a couple left. $13.05 in the BERU brand. It's the 0.25 bar white one.

Nice!! I'm not at home at the moment but will be back in a couple of days, would you mind holding onto 1 till I get back?

Thanks bud
Leigh

[ByronRichesMk1]

What's happening with this wee beasty mate? Still got it?

[Lucky13]

good job mate
cool car

[Nicko16v]

This is looking awesome.

Can't wait to get my AGU dropped in

[dubsquad]

I've really been slacking updating the thread, between a crap work roster and buying a new place and getting everything up to the missus standards, I didnt spend alot of time on it. I did however got the shed built and the only thing left to do is to kit it out(flooring ,shelves and work area). The car is going well, no engine issues, the gearbox and clutch is still holding up good. the tune is still a bit rough at startup but when it's warmed up it runs sweet. New management setup is on the cards tho. Low boost is currently set to 0.4 bar and High boost to 0.9 Bar. there's also a few bits and bobs i've changed but will update with pics when i'm back in Perth.

So watch this space, will be getting back into this soon.

Cheers

[ByronRichesMk1]

Awesome!
If it's not much of an inconvenience dude i'd love to drop by and have a look and a chat one day!

[dubsquad]

Cool bro, i'm back in Perth end of the month. I'll pm you then.

Cheers
Leigh

[pommydubber]

Hi Leigh,
I'm looking at putting a 20v turbo longditudenal into my mk1 cabriolet with an 020 box.
I live near rockingham. I was wondering if down the road you may be able to give me some tips to get my beast on the road...
Just one question for now. How did you go with engineering it with regards to the pits/licensing?

[Lucky13]

Hi Leigh,
I'm looking at putting a 20v turbo longditudenal into my mk1 cabriolet with an 020 box.
I live near rockingham. I was wondering if down the road you may be able to give me some tips to get my beast on the road...
Just one question for now. How did you go with engineering it with regards to the pits/licensing?

Hi Mate,

I got a MK1 cabrio with the 1.8T conversion in it since 2 years.
Currently I am convert it to right hand drive, but i haven't spend time on it the last 3 months. Cause of the same issues as Leigh.
I do have a lot of pics from the engine conversion.
cheers
Dan

[roccodingo]

Col, its all on the cop shop website, but best bet is to have an Automotive engineer do the report on it then check out what needs to be done to get it to licensing status. ( Its what I have to do for the blue rocco and the Mk2 heading over even as a standard car )

Get your vehicle examined (http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/21100.asp)

[pommydubber]

Hi grant,
Yeah, had a read of the regs. Basically take the highest factory hp engine for the car in question then add 20%. If the hp figure falls below this threshold then it's a much simpler process. I think the highest output for the mk1 was 110hp on the gti 1800? But there was the owtinnger 16v but can't find power figures for it. So based on the 1.8 @ 110hp plus 20% the figure to get under for a simple approval would be 132hp.
Unfortunately the engine I want has 150hp so it's gonna be a lot more hassle :-(
The main thing I can gather is to make It look as the factory intended it to. No wires or fuel lines near the exhaust etc

[pommydubber]

Hi dan,
Can u send some pics please. What engine management did u use and how did h go with setting it up/tuning?

[dubsquad]

Sorry for my late response fellas.

Col, Mine still road registered but engineering is not done yet. I spoke with Wade(golfballs) the other day and basically when you have it up and running take to a Engineer to have a look at. He'll tell you whats needed. The Main issue is Emissions, as it really difficult to get low emissions with this sort of conversion. Wade was talking about goin with a detune on E85 to get by this.

Pm ur details and make a turn over the weekend.

[roccodingo]

Roadbend Jaguar in Welshpool will do a 5 gas analysis for you, then you may have to tune the management to meet emissions standards.

[pommydubber]

Hi Leigh,
U can get me on 0406682540

[GOLFBALLS]

Hey guys, as i'm going thru the rigmorol of licensing as we speak for the mk2, i'll do a little sumthin on my thread for your info...

[pommydubber]

Look forward to how u get on with great interest. I'm going to pick up an APU 20v turbo unit tomorrow. Very excited!! Been wanting to do a decent conversion for soooo long it's not funny. With regards to emissions, do the compliance laws go by the engine or the car date of manufacture?

[mk1agutoo]

Time for a update, sorry guys wasnt slacking just away with work. Got the Qpeng management with harness and downpipe. Mine's setup with High/Low boost switch and all relay's for the fuel pump.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/DSC00169-1.jpg

The downpipe..
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/DSC00172-1.jpg


I also started mocking-up the intercooler piping. Just need to use 1 part of the original piping which got the little 6mm nozzle for the boost controller.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/DSC00167-1.jpg

The intercooler will be mounted low to give sufficient space for the throttle body piping. I wanted to fit the dumpvalve before the throttle body but it's really tight in there so it's gonna go before the intercooler.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/03/DSC00165-1.jpg

Also had to remove the original radiator fan shroud and fit a slim fan to clear a bit of space. The other issue i had was the fuel tank cause i need a gravity feed tank like the GTI one. I bought a 2nd hand Diesel one but decided not to use it as was just full of sludge and crap that didn't want to flush out so now i'm awaiting a new one from the US. All and all it's getting there tho.

Cheers
Leigh

Hi ,
I am currently planning my agu conversion on my mk1 gls , I have a complete 2001 gti that is my daily driver but recently had a rear end altercation with a commodore ....... my rear his front , its twisted my car so the best thing to do is use it in my mk1 I guess any one need a red mk4 lol , anyway did you have to change the engine mounts on the chassis rails at all to fit this engine ? Or can you buy a straight bolt on kit ?

Scott

[ByronRichesMk1]

You can buy a straight bolt in kit. Few places to find them. German eBay or crazy quips mk1 being two of them.

[mk1agutoo]

Thank you , I will have a look .

[dubsquad]

Hey bud,

I bought mine from this guy in the UK. He's got this one for sale now....
VW MK1 GOLF GTI 1.8T 20VT ENGINE CONVERSION BRACKET MOUNT | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK1-GOLF-GTI-1-8T-20VT-ENGINE-CONVERSION-BRACKET-MOUNT-/181367749209?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a3a5c3a59)

This one works for AGU, BAM,APY engine codes with the internal water pump. AEB uses a external one and uses the standard mk1 engine mount.

Cheers