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Pauly
14-02-2010, 03:01 PM
Hey guys,

Im kinda surprised no one has really asked this question on here. (yes I have done a forum search and could only pull up a few threads with a few replys which are not really helpful).

But since the Mk6 Golf has been out for nearly 1 Year in Australia. There is prob more people to ask now.

But what are peoples of the Dynaudio setup in the Mk6 Golf compared to the stock unit it comes with. Is it really worth the $1300?

I suppose me, and im sure others are looking at specing up their Golfs in the coming months, and are just wanting peoples opinions on the setup.

I have heard both setups, and I just cant make up in my mind if its worth the extra $1300 which I could put towards some other accessories, or insurance! haha.

Post your thoughts.

elisiX
14-02-2010, 04:39 PM
I have not heard the difference so can't comment on the differences.

However the reason I didn't bother with the Dynaudio is that on the way to and from work, we basically listen to the radio.

ie; put **** in get **** out. The upgrade would be wasted.

Liquid
14-02-2010, 04:45 PM
i took the plunge and bought my 118tsi with dynaudio. Recently had to put the car in for some warranty issues, and had the TDI as a courtesy without dynaudio the difference in the audio quality is quite big and i had no regrets taking that plunge.

If you are an audiophile, you might appreciate the quality, as it is quite decent. But its by no means the best quality. If you want better quality audio and don't envisage upgrading the speakers of your car later on down the track, then i would get it.

Escell
14-02-2010, 04:57 PM
While there is not much Dynaudio information on this site, there are a few threads I stumbled on when researching for myself which led me to tick it as an option. I'll list them below.

The general consensus was that for those picky about audio fidelity the Dynaudio adds a level of clarity above stock and is a "no brainer" option. The only complaints were that during the break-in period for the speakers you may note a rattle in the door during bass and the speakers will seem a little biased towards the top end.

Also as you will read "it's a small sub away from a fantastic system", or something like that. The bass is decent even without a sub imo.

After break in , one poster said his system sounded fantastic.

I have sat in a mk6 GTI with and without the Dynaudio and to me the difference was immediately noticeable. Crisper highs and a natural sounding mid range. The bass was well defined with no boom. It was great although not mind blowingly great.

I would sit in test drives with and without and decide for yourself. To test if the bass is enough for you I would use Take Five by Dave Brubeck - you won't hear any of the echoing deep bass of the kick on the first beat on a poor system. Or you could use Low by FloRida.

Music is personal. Things that I can't stand hearing don't matter to mates.

I'd bear in mind that this is a factory fitted perfectly molded option for your new car. If you change your mind later and go aftermarket, you'll pay similar or even more but you have to let a random installer take apart your car.

Check these threads:

http://forums.motivemag.com/zerothread?id=4577165
Great thread on Dynaudio in the Golf. Pretty much all positive

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4678446
Post by a guy who's had it long enough to break it in. All positive.

http://whathifi.com/News/JUST-TESTED-Dynaudios-in-car-audio-system-for-the-VW-Passat-CC-GT/
Interesting article about the Passat CC Dynaudio by what hi fi (different to the GTI's)

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4657156

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4653426
Is it worth waiting for as an option?

Plenty more if you search vwvortex.

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2896
A few negative posts in here amongst more positives.

Also if you think it needs sub message me. I have info on how to install one. You need balls to do it though.

In summary if you care about sound, do it.

Hope this helps. It's a summary of a few hours of searching I did. I get my GTI this week so I'll let you know what I think.

ope126
14-02-2010, 05:05 PM
Here is some product info from the manufacturer;
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/auto/golf.php

Hope this helps...

Brendan_A
14-02-2010, 05:20 PM
If you love your music and like quality do it! You couldn't buy Dyn speakers from a car audio shop for $1300. My MK6 I have on order has got the option and I can't wait to get some hours up on the system.:banana: I have heard both systems and the Dyn's are just awesome!

TonyJZX
14-02-2010, 06:07 PM
why's it usd$480 there yet $1,300 here?

cme2c
14-02-2010, 07:53 PM
I am so happy I ticked the Dynaudio box when ordering the 118TSI .IIRC it's only $1k extra with the factory RNS510 satnav/ dvd/hdd system. When I test drove a GTI without dynaudio, the audio sounded flattened.

With dynaudio the sound is brighter, the bass fuller and the details more defined, like the sound of fingers on fretboard and strings with acoustic tracks. Splits front and back.

It's not quite as good as the Harmon -Kardon in my friends Mercedes C280, but if you don't have cloth ears, Dynaudio is well worth the money, IMHO.

JLR
14-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Only thing to keep in mind is that hardly any GTI's are built with the Dynaudio. So if you chose to have one, you will have or make/order a build or you might be lucky and get one earlier.

I am in the same boat. The standard audio is pretty good, and adjusting the EQ would make a decent sound system. Definatley something passable and you would get used to it straight away. I was impressed coming from a 8 speaker, 2 amps and subwoofer system.

With the Dynaudio, there is definatley a bass increase and mid and top end aswell. Is it worth $1300?. I'd say for me yes. Its factory, and will be covered under warrenty and i can pick up the car and its all done.

JasonP
14-02-2010, 08:53 PM
I've had my 118TSI for 8 months now, & I love the Dynaudio over the standard sysem.

My 103TDI has the standard system, & even though it's quite good, I really love cranking up the Dynaudio when I get the chance.

Tick the box; it's worth it.

Mine helped convince TDiJetta09 to order Dynaudio for his new Mark6.

Spook
14-02-2010, 11:29 PM
I'd imagine it may make sense to tick the Dynaudio option if you want to upgrade from the RCD310 as well. I seem to recall reading somewhere than just optioning the RCD510 alone is over $1000 (unless you fit it aftermarket) as it is a dealer fitted accessory.

midlifecrisis
15-02-2010, 05:21 AM
What advice do people have for breaking these speakers in?

roy
15-02-2010, 06:56 AM
i didn't tick this option because i only use radio for most of the time...

Corey_R
15-02-2010, 09:03 AM
Im kinda surprised no one has really asked this question on here. (yes I have done a forum search and could only pull up a few threads with a few replys which are not really helpful).
It's because it's subjective. Peoples ears are all different, musical tastes are different, definition of the term 'audiophile' is different, and expectations are different.


I have heard both setups, and I just cant make up in my mind if its worth the extra $1300 which I could put towards some other accessories, or insurance! haha.
If you have heard it and not sure whether it's worth it or not, then it's probably not!


I would probably say that the best advice given in this thread is that since the Dynaudio upgrade is only $1000 or $1300 (depending on the car), there is no possible way you'd get anything BETTER for that price aftermarket. Plus, this would be covered under warranty.

So sure, you could go out and get a custom system installed with aFocal Utopia BE Kit #7 plus three 8" subs across the back (http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/utopia-be.html) as well as all the associated AMPs, cabling and installation for about $15,000 and it'd be way better ;) but what's the point... no matter how good the audio system is, it's a car and the sound will never be optimal.

Corey_R
15-02-2010, 09:19 AM
Btw - many people have said to me since VW announced their partnership with Dynaudio, who they hell ARE Dynaudio?

Dynaudio are a Danish company who've been around for about 30 years now. They are very well known in the 'high-end audiophile community' for the past few decades for not only their own products, but for selling their drivers to other high-end audio manufacturers to use in their products.

Dynaudio's current top of the line speaker is called the Evidence Master (http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/evidence/master.php). It retails for about US$85,000 for the stereo pair. In Australia they're approximately $125,000 for the pair.

I was lucky enough to hear a set of these in a 'little stereo system worth about $400,000' (for the speakers, Mark Levinson reference amps, preamp, dac and digital transport, plus clear audio reference turntable, and all the associated power filtering and cables).

I must say that I do my best to forget the experience because that system was so unbelievably awesome that nothing else that I could possibly afford would ever compare.

So Audi have Bose as their 'premium' sound system. Bose are crap in comparision to Dynaudio... VW have really picked a great company to partner with :)

mattyf83
15-02-2010, 09:24 AM
Btw - many people have said to me since VW announced their partnership with Dynaudio, who they hell ARE Dynaudio?

Dynaudio are a Danish company who've been around for about 30 years now. They are very well known in the 'high-end audiophile community' for the past few decades for not only their own products, but for selling their drivers to other high-end audio manufacturers to use in their products.

Dynaudio's current top of the line speaker is called the Evidence Master (http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/evidence/master.php). It retails for about US$85,000 for the stereo pair. In Australia they're approximately $125,000 for the pair.

I was lucky enough to hear a set of these in a 'little stereo system worth about $400,000' (for the speakers, Mark Levinson reference amps, preamp, dac and digital transport, plus clear audio reference turntable, and all the associated power filtering and cables).

I must say that I do my best to forget the experience because that system was so unbelievably awesome that nothing else that I could possibly afford would ever compare.

So Audi have Bose as their 'premium' sound system. Bose are crap in comparision to Dynaudio... VW have really picked a great company to partner with :)

I thought Audi has Bang & Ofulsen?

Corey_R
15-02-2010, 10:28 AM
I thought Audi has Bang & Ofulsen?
The A3/S3, A6/S6/RS6, Q7 and TT/TT-S/TT-RS have Bose.

The A4/S4, A5/S5, Q5, R8 have B&O

The A8 has both! A $3100 Bose option and a $16,600 B&O option!!!


In my opinion, Bang & Ofulsen are the 'Louis Vuitton' of the audio world. Their products are not necessarily that high performing, and certainly not comparable on a performance basis to many other products of their cost. But they have great designs and visual appeal, and of course the badge appeal.

Escell
15-02-2010, 10:55 AM
16 replies and no msg back from the original poster...

Nice to see alot of people confirming my choice to put it in though!

TonyJZX
15-02-2010, 12:40 PM
I thought Audi has Bang & Ofulsen?

they do

but B&O have an 'off the shelf' OEM kit that any manufacturer can purchase and stick in their car

pretty sure Aston Martin and Volvo both use the same B&O kit as Audi (you can tell because it has the signature rise from the parcel shelf tweeters)

btw. just say my car has the basic RCD310 unit - if i get the Dynaudio upgrade I get the RCD510 + amps + spks?

iBoost
15-02-2010, 01:03 PM
I was quite impressed with the standard sound system myself and would just add an amp and a sub down the track if I feel like it. It's a subjective thing really. I normally find myself listening to the engine note/exhaust more than the stereo.

denilu
15-02-2010, 01:24 PM
The Mark V GTI had a better sound system than the other Golfs. Is that the same for Mark VI or does the GTI come with a better system than other Golfs plus the option for Dynaudio?

Corey_R
15-02-2010, 01:33 PM
I was quite impressed with the standard sound system myself and would just add an amp and a sub down the track if I feel like it. It's a subjective thing really. I normally find myself listening to the engine note/exhaust more than the stereo.

You see - I thought the standard GTI system (in my MKV, which had the DVD Sat Nav) was rather average. I'd much rathered have driven whilst using my In-Ear-Monitors, except for the fact that the Golf had such a quiet interior I couldn't hear the outside world if I had the windows up and the IEMs in.

Mk6 GTI
15-02-2010, 01:56 PM
Its funny because the stock stereo i had in the Mk4 MY04 was fantastic! It sounded better than MOST other stock stereos including my GFs BMW 120i (which sounds very dissappointing!!).. Its a shame that they put such bad audio set up in car they charge premium price for. Anyway..!

I added this option because I LOVE great sound. Mind you i only listened to the stock system..which didnt sound too bad after a play around with the EQ. I definitely wasnt blown away though so i figured the Dynaudio can only be an improvement!


Sounds like i have made the right choice!

Corey_R
15-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Its funny because the stock stereo i had in the Mk4 MY04 was fantastic! It sounded better than MOST other stock stereos including my GFs BMW 120i (which sounds very dissappointing!!).. Its a shame that they put such bad audio set up in car they charge premium price for. Anyway..!

Maybe the MKV and MK6 stereo is better than the MK4... again, audio is SO subjective....

Brendan_A
15-02-2010, 03:54 PM
What advice do people have for breaking these speakers in?

Dynaudio speakers roughly need 100 hours use before they start sounding there best. So just use them, but don't flog them!

bigmouthmedia
15-02-2010, 04:44 PM
I have the RCD310 in my 90TSI, and to be honest I'm blown away by the bass response of it, that's either with CD or Bluetooth audio (I have the Nokia handsfree system installed), with bass and treble up to their limits....I did consider the 510, but too many $'s started floating around on the contract!

moniker
15-02-2010, 05:43 PM
I'm picking up a 103 TDI with the stock stereo tomorrow.
I'll report back on what I think the comparison is to my MkIV Bora.
The Bora had the (I assume) stock system with the 6 disc changer in the boot - and to be honest I think it sounded pretty good for what it was.
Nice tight bass and not bad top end.
Cetainly better than most stock systems out there even nowadays.
I'm hoping the Mk VI is even better (I did not get a chance to put my fave. CD's in during the brief test drive)

Off topic - I'm hoping the 'Climatronic' is a lot friendlier than the Bora - man after 3 years of owning that I still got frustrated wiith the little up / down fan and temp buttons.
A shocker

Escell
15-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Interesting comments about the mkiv stereos, I had a white mkiv golf with that really ugly black trim on the outside, and it's stereo was pretty good! The bass always surprised me.

I had a friend who installs car audio ask if it was aftermarket!

Corey_R
15-02-2010, 06:46 PM
I'm picking up a 103 TDI with the stock stereo tomorrow.
Be weary of making those comparisions any time soon. Your MKIV Bora would have had a long time to settle in - the MKVI will be tight and need time to work in.

Brendan_A
15-02-2010, 07:03 PM
Can anyone tell me if the RCD510 in the MK6 has time correction function?

Mk6 GTI
15-02-2010, 08:40 PM
Interesting comments about the mkiv stereos, I had a white mkiv golf with that really ugly black trim on the outside, and it's stereo was pretty good! The bass always surprised me.

I had a friend who installs car audio ask if it was aftermarket!

its true.. the sound was awsome! i had another mate that also had a mk4 and he would always say the same.

Corey_R
16-02-2010, 09:16 AM
Meh - I still thought the MKIV GTI had a crap stereo too... but then I was much more jaded about sound quality back then (having spent so much time listening to high end home theater systems whilst researching my purchase).

Escell
16-02-2010, 09:57 AM
Have to say Coreying, you're playing in two different leagues there.

Comparing my home theatre to my car will always make me sad.

Having said that that's exactly what I'll do with the Dynaudio in a few days...

moniker
09-03-2010, 10:49 PM
I'm picking up a 103 TDI with the stock stereo tomorrow.
I'll report back on what I think the comparison is to my MkIV Bora.
The Bora had the (I assume) stock system with the 6 disc changer in the boot - and to be honest I think it sounded pretty good for what it was.
Nice tight bass and not bad top end.
Cetainly better than most stock systems out there even nowadays.
I'm hoping the Mk VI is even better (I did not get a chance to put my fave. CD's in during the brief test drive)



To follow up, IMHO the stock stereo in the MkVI does not quite measure up to my old MkIV Bora.
Top end is less crisp, bottom end does not extend down quite so far and lacks a bit of 'punch'.

It almost sounds to me like the MkIV has stock cone tweeters and the MKIV had piezo's or some other sort of semi-decent tweeter.
Bottom end - I think the door panel had a bit more substance to it in the MK IV that helped there.
All up 'though, the stereo is not too bad at all in the scheme of things.

Can anyone confirm the tweeter 'type' in the stock MKVI? , and how easily can I fit a decent tweeter in there? I think that may improve the top end and upper mid range quite a bit.


Keith

nau
10-03-2010, 09:31 AM
on a topic of Mk4 and Mk6 stock...
can some one compare them?

mk4 got the best stock setup that I have heard at the time so is mk6 set just as good ? or Dynamo is a must for this one... ?

Corey_R
10-03-2010, 09:41 AM
From what I've heard, the MK4 stock is better than the MKV/6 stock.
It's been a long time since I've heard the MK4, but at the time I wasn't that impressed by it, and I certainly wasn't impressed by the MKV - but then I have very high standards when it comes to audio, and to be honest, no car could truly meet them (being the car is a completely flawed environment for listening to audio in the first place).

The Dynaudio (lol, Dynamo :P) does make an apprecitable difference IF you are serious about your sound. It's not the best system out there by any means, but it's better than anything that you could possibly do by spending only $1300.

Just find a dealer with a Dynaudio in a Golf (whether GTI or not) and take a few CDs and listen for yourself :)

STV4SYT
10-03-2010, 10:30 AM
After a couple of days living with the new GTI (no dynaudio) i can definitely say the standard speakers in this are a lot worse than the standards in the Mk5.

If you appreciate your music loud (or at all)then get it.

I can only comment on the MDI, as ive not as much as put a CD into the player yet, but im comparing RCD510, standard speakers against RCD300- basic ipod adapter and the same iPod with the same tunes.


Dont you hate it when they offer an updated version of something, then make the default version worse to force you to spend extra money on what it should have been like in the first place?

Corey_R
10-03-2010, 11:24 AM
If you appreciate your music loud (or at all)then get it.

Hehe - you see, a good system shouldn't require it to be LOUD :)

G-rig
10-03-2010, 12:16 PM
That's right, it should sound good at any volume with a flat EQ.

Not everyone has experienced good sound so may save themselves some money.

AdamD
10-03-2010, 12:59 PM
It's not the best system out there by any means, but it's better than anything that you could possibly do by spending only $1300.

That's a big call, Corey! You can get a lot of quality aftermarket kit for $1300 these days. I'm certainly hoping you're right though, as I've ordered the Dynaudio but haven't yet heard it.

Having listened to the basic RCD-510 at length in several cars (GTIs, Passat CCs), I think it sounds decidedly ordinary. Mind you, I think the audio in my parents' MkV Golfs (both '05 models) is truly awful - far worse than the RCD-510. Especially compared to the stock system in my Accord Euro, which is the best stock system I've heard in a car under $60k.

G-rig
10-03-2010, 01:07 PM
That's a big call, Corey! You can get a lot of quality aftermarket kit for $1300 these days. I'm certainly hoping you're right though, as I've ordered the Dynaudio but haven't yet heard it.


It's easily worth $1300 and you can't really get that much GOOD after market gear for $1300.

eg. A pair of 2way Dyn splits would be $850 and nice amps are $800 etc. No point putting in cheap rubbish either.

AdamD
10-03-2010, 01:20 PM
It's easily worth $1300 and you can't really get that much GOOD after market gear for $1300.

eg. A pair of 2way Dyn splits would be $850 and nice amps are $800 etc. No point putting in cheap rubbish either.

Definitely agree with you on those points. I guess the real-world issue for the average Joe isn't whether you can get a good setup for $1300, but whether you can improve on the net result of the Dynaudio enhancements for $1300, and hence whether you go down the DIY route instead.

And I apologise for the above statement - I hate arguing semantics. ;)

I'm not 100% convinced you couldn't do better, but I'd be really happy to be proven wrong!

Sound is such a subjective and personal thing and therefore different individuals would choose different mods to suit their music and listening tastes. Subwoofers vs drivers and poweramps vs high-end mids/tweeters, for instance.

Corey_R
10-03-2010, 01:24 PM
What G-rig said :)

These days you can even get ANY good gear from places like Straithfield or JB Hifi or any of these other so called 'car audio specialists' chains. You really need to go to 'boutique car audio' places to get the good equipment.

$1300 is nothing. Even if we look at 'quality value' products like the In-Car Audio 2009 'speaker of the year under $1000' winner, the Focal 165KR (6.5" component speaker kit - KR Kevlar series) - it's $729. Add the matching subwoofer - 27KX (11" Subwoofer) for $819, and even before installation or amplication you're already at $1548 for a good 'value' 2.1 system

Lets not even get into a system with front and rear speakers! :)

G-rig
10-03-2010, 03:10 PM
Too true Corey there isn't much quality gear in the non-specialist car audio shops these days, and once you get into the good gear it adds up quick.

I underquoted before, the RRP of Dyn 242's is $1099 and a 4ch Arc Mini is rrp $999. You could get out of it cheaper with other brands but would still get over the $1300 with two or three pieces of gear.

labor alone would be $200-400 for installation too.

It is annoying you pay 40-60k for the Mk5 's and they come with such a rubbish sound system. The Bose in my 1997 A4 was way better.

elisiX
10-03-2010, 03:48 PM
Considering the price we pay for cars in Australia, there should many more options included as standard.

$1300 IMO isn't a lot to ask for the Dynaudio I guess - it's just that this option in combination with a few more very quickly adds up.

iBoost
10-03-2010, 03:58 PM
Just get a good quality exhaust, that's all the audio I need. ;)

G-rig
10-03-2010, 04:09 PM
Just get a good quality exhaust, that's all the audio I need. ;)

That's a nice idea but still boring on the highway or in traffic.

I was thinking of selling all my audio gear to get a capristo r32 exhaust though :).

Mk6 Golf
10-03-2010, 04:14 PM
I have heard both setups, and I just cant make up in my mind if its worth the extra $1300 which I could put towards some other accessories, or insurance! haha. Post your thoughts.

Hay Pauly, it's good to know that you've heard both setups. As for me, well, I'd love to hear the Dynaudio system however, as I've already purchased my Golf, I suspect it would be moot as (from what I've read elsewhere) I understand the Dynaudio cannot be retro fitted to my existing Mk6 Golf (anyone correct me if I'm wrong?).

That said, I like my music very much and am very happy with the stock sound system. That could say one of two things, either I've been deprived for many years to know what a real good system should sound like, or that the stock system is actually good. I'd like to think the latter :)

G-rig
10-03-2010, 04:28 PM
Deprived for many years...

Ps for the sake of $1300 it should come standard in the higher models if you're spending that much. All the options inflate the price too much and easy to get carried away.

pologti18t
10-03-2010, 04:30 PM
Considering the price we pay for cars in Australia, there should many more options included as standard.

$1300 IMO isn't a lot to ask for the Dynaudio I guess - it's just that this option in combination with a few more very quickly adds up.

Then just prioritise the options you want! LOL

Then again... maybe the option madness shown in general here explains the huge McMansions they everyone seems to need nowadays... 20 bedrooms, 16 bathrooms, 5 car garage, rumpus room, theatre room, formal lounge/dining room etc, when the average family is 4 people - :banana:

Corey_R
10-03-2010, 05:15 PM
I suspect it would be moot as (from what I've read elsewhere) I understand the Dynaudio cannot be retro fitted to my existing Mk6 Golf (anyone correct me if I'm wrong?).
I'm not sure whether the dealers can order in the Dynaudio system to retro-fit. HOWEVER - even if they could, I'd be very surprised if it'd be anywhere under $2500 fitted.

G-rig
10-03-2010, 05:54 PM
I'm not sure whether the dealers can order in the Dynaudio system to retro-fit. HOWEVER - even if they could, I'd be very surprised if it'd be anywhere under $2500 fitted.

Yeah I highly doubt they would stuff around fitting it, and defeats the purpose. You would be better off going to a good specialty audio shop and get aftermarket Dyn's and a more powerful amp which would be more impressive anyway.

The bottom line is $1300 is easily worth, but wouldnt' be as good as after market setups (although they would cost more). I'd just add a sub/amp to the factory Dyn's if you don't have gear from the last car.

entice
02-04-2010, 03:21 AM
I have Dynaudio in my home system.
When I was looking for home audio, i looked far and wide, and always came back to the Dyn's.

Yes, they are expensive, but buy, they are damn good and exude quality in construction.

But, Did I tick the box?

No.
why not?

Well, as others have mentioned it's a personal preference.
My car is used to get from A-B. whilst getting to and fro, IF the audio is on, it's usually on AM Talkback. The car I just got out of after 11 moths had the same set of CD's in it that the car I had prior (for 13 months) which funnily enough are teh same as those in the car I had prior.... So, they would be a waste in my hands. The car I also just got out of had a magnificent Bose Centrepoint system (standard).. but that too was wasted on me.

In my view (and take it from me, I turn cars over every year or so) ticking any options or accessories for a vehicle should be done ONLY if you wish to benefit from it's use, and be prepared to forego the funds when it comes time to sell... Ie, the car really wont be worth any more than a standard one when you come to sell it (other than perhaps be a selling point to 2 otherwise identicle cars)...And this is why I dont understand why some dealers have stock of 9 month old GTI's on their showroom floors, optioned out completely, and still asking 65K for them....

But, the Dyn's are great.. anything they do, is great...

Corey_R
02-04-2010, 08:37 AM
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback!

Mk6 GTI
02-04-2010, 09:23 AM
I have Dynaudio in my home system.
When I was looking for home audio, i looked far and wide, and always came back to the Dyn's.

Yes, they are expensive, but buy, they are damn good and exude quality in construction.

But, Did I tick the box?

No.
why not?

Well, as others have mentioned it's a personal preference.
My car is used to get from A-B. whilst getting to and fro, IF the audio is on, it's usually on AM Talkback. The car I just got out of after 11 moths had the same set of CD's in it that the car I had prior (for 13 months) which funnily enough are teh same as those in the car I had prior.... So, they would be a waste in my hands. The car I also just got out of had a magnificent Bose Centrepoint system (standard).. but that too was wasted on me.

In my view (and take it from me, I turn cars over every year or so) ticking any options or accessories for a vehicle should be done ONLY if you wish to benefit from it's use, and be prepared to forego the funds when it comes time to sell... Ie, the car really wont be worth any more than a standard one when you come to sell it (other than perhaps be a selling point to 2 otherwise identicle cars)...And this is why I dont understand why some dealers have stock of 9 month old GTI's on their showroom floors, optioned out completely, and still asking 65K for them....

But, the Dyn's are great.. anything they do, is great...

Good to know mate.. Thanks for the feedback. I almost never listen to radio in the car being a muso I almost always have a cd going. So any fctory upgrade available I was willing to take up. I'll hopefully find out next week the greatness of dynaudio! Hehe

G-rig
02-04-2010, 10:13 AM
Everyone's requirements are different, it would be a great option if you love music and planned to keep the car for over 1 year. I never listen to AM or radio much for that matter. If you are only thinking about A-B then a corolla or camry/falcon would do the job.

Agree the options can get out of hand, but as I mentioned earlier in the thread it's not hard to fit after market Dynaudio's and a quality amp/s down the track. The good thing is you can take them to the next car too which is what i'm doing.

kennyc
02-04-2010, 01:00 PM
The car i have on hold for me have the standard speakers. I have not heard Dynaudio but know i would love them. I just cant see myself being able to wait 6 months for the car to be built for a dynaudio upgrade.
But man it should be standard, along with BT!!!!!

Corey_R
02-04-2010, 05:42 PM
Yeah, if Dynaudio was the only optoin missing on a car, and the alternative was to wait for one to be build, do as G-rig said, get a great quality aftermarket system done by a reputable place (no Strathfield or JB etc), keep all the original equipment too, and then just take that system from car to car.

kennyc
03-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Yeah, if Dynaudio was the only optoin missing on a car, and the alternative was to wait for one to be build, do as G-rig said, get a great quality aftermarket system done by a reputable place (no Strathfield or JB etc), keep all the original equipment too, and then just take that system from car to car.

Yeah the one i test drove today had the standard system, i thought it was good enough. Id be happy with it after i play around with the EQ settings.

hcvo1
03-04-2010, 03:53 PM
Yeah the one i test drove today had the standard system, i thought it was good enough. Id be happy with it after i play around with the EQ settings.

Did you test drive the silver one they had with the 18" detroits like I did? :)

kennyc
03-04-2010, 04:02 PM
Did you test drive the silver one they had with the 18" detroits like I did? :)

Yeah i did, look great with 18". But im getting stock 17"
Ill just buy some aftermarket 18" wheels later on

hcvo1
03-04-2010, 04:03 PM
Yeah i did, look great with 18". But im getting stock 17"
Ill just buy some aftermarket 18" wheels later on

Good job! my mate and I test drove that car and if you open up the boot the cover is broken... LOL

kennyc
03-04-2010, 04:07 PM
Good job! my mate and I test drove that car and if you open up the boot the cover is broken... LOL

I opened the boot, didnt seem broken so they must have fixed it!
But its a smallish boot ay?

hcvo1
03-04-2010, 04:08 PM
I opened the boot, didnt seem broken so they must have fixed it!
But its a smallish boot ay?

Well it is bigger that my last car, I had a Peugeot 207cc convertible and there was no boot!

MkVIGTI
17-04-2010, 10:01 AM
The Dynaudio in the GTI only has one badge of the brand on the front tweeters, unlike the standard Golf which also has the brand name on the front speakers...

G-rig
24-04-2010, 02:17 PM
I had a quick look under the passenger seat but couldn't see the stock amp.

Is it in a different location to the MK5, or doesn't come with one (in GTI)?

AdamD
24-04-2010, 04:01 PM
I had a quick look under the passenger seat but couldn't see the stock amp.

Is it in a different location to the MK5, or doesn't come with one (in GTI)?

The stock setup just uses the headunit for amplification I believe.

The Dynaudio option includes a 300w amp; I had heard it's located under the front passenger seat, but could be wrong.

astro
06-07-2011, 06:03 PM
In a golf r

Is there a sub?

If so how big?

Where is it mounted and does anyone have pics

Corey_R
06-07-2011, 06:08 PM
Is there a sub?

No

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DoggieHowser
06-07-2011, 07:58 PM
Dynaudio has a few ranges.

The Golf has the lower end Excite range. I heard the Passat's higher end Esotec series which sounds pretty damn good.

My 77TSi doesn't have any options for audio so am gonna fit an aftermarket satnav later with reverse camera, JL Audio XD amp and a pair of Dynaudio 242GT Esotec range components.

JL audio provides a "stealth" 10" sub for Golf V and VIs which fits on the right side of the boot. Very cool I thought. You might able to order it from their UK store or a local dealer.

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_stealthbox_detail.php?fit_id=1601

Corey_R
06-07-2011, 08:29 PM
The picture shows it installing on the left side, though the description says the "drivers side" (I assume it's USA/Europe site though). As long as the boot mold hasn't changed from the MKV to MK6 this should be alright. Note, that if it really does fit on the "drivers side" on RHD vehicles, i.e. the right side, then it won't fit on any car with ACC.

walbjj
06-07-2011, 11:07 PM
after reading thru this thread, ill give my input.
i missed out on the dynaudio as i bought a gti already on a boat without the option. i decided to use that $1300 and install aftermarket gear. all up i spent aud$1400 on 2 sets of boston acoustics pro60se speakers, and 2 jl audio amps. so essentially, i purchased each setup for $700. install was $300.
i therefore spent $1000 on what i think is a decent speaker and amp set that exceeds the dynaudio option. i also had a small jl audio bass tube from a previous install which i added.
all in all, i spent less, and i think i got more out of it in terms of audioness. plus i have the option of removing it later.
but honestly, the gti is one of the best cars ive owned besides my s2000 which i had for 7 years. does everything i need, in a great driving environment

astro
07-07-2011, 06:26 AM
Yeah I am after something that won't take up too much boot space.

Yeah that is what I was also looking at doing seeing what I can get after market for 1300.

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 09:07 AM
Personally I think what you can get aftermarket for $1300 is crap...
But then I also think what you can get aftermarket for $10,000 is only "ok".

Car audio is crap, lets face it. The biggest limiting factor is... the car itself. It's just a rubbish environment to try and reproduce sound. Then on top of that, we go and drive around whilst reproducing that sound, so it's then fighting with the noise of other cars, trucks, wind, tyre and road noise, and the noise of the engine and the exhaust.

The stock system is so bad that I just wouldn't listen to it. And in my MKV GTI, I never did/could.
I've tried before in a previous car to limit myself to a budget of $1k of aftermarket gear and couldn't find anything I was happy with after a day of auditions and driving around from car audio specialist to specialist. Trying again with a budget of $3 to 5k wasn't any more successful. So wouldn't bother with a $1300 aftermarket system.

The $1000 Dynaudio option on my R is "listenable" (I also got the Sat Nav, so it's only $1000 diff). In fairness, my friends think it's great.

I'm just happy I didn't have to go through the pain and waste of time of auditioning $1300 of aftermarket crapness and getting it installed. The Dynaudio system comes in your car from the factory, so it's an effortless decision to make :)

backdoc
07-07-2011, 09:33 AM
The stock system is so bad that I just wouldn't listen to it.

My wife always told me I was deaf, but I never believed her. But maybe she's right after all! I'm not sure what I am listening to, but I don't think the stock system is that horrible. Sounds like you guys need to work out how to attach an engine and some wheels to a concert hall :)

triode12
07-07-2011, 09:48 AM
Corey is right.

The acoustics in any car (even in a Maybach) is shyte. The very foundation of a good audio system. i.e. Stereo (meaning solid/3D) imaging from ICE is either unrealistic or non-existant.

IMO, why even bother spending the extra $1300 on the Dynaudio upgrade? it still is going to be shyte.
Unless you are going to be spending hours sitting in traffic or driving somewhere (and that little uplift in bass colouration (doff doff) floats your boat). It is better saving the $1300 for a better system (NOT HT!) at home.

MiiLos
07-07-2011, 10:07 AM
each to their own i guess, but i cant stand having all that distortion and poor clarity that comes with your stock system. although many had complimented the stock sound system in my MK5 i really didnt fancy it once it was over half way as the distortion started to kick in.

after testing the Dynaudio at one of the dealerships i was very impressed, at high levels there was no distortion what so ever and the audio was very clear (didnt go all out as the rep was in the car with me lol). i think its a worthy ivestment for those like me that get irritated with easy distortion which genereally comes as the bass is turned up - i didnt find this was the case with Dyn, its clear, crisp, good treble, decent base - all you could ask for in a car i think.

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 10:22 AM
Whilst I don't believe the Dynaudio is of sufficient "audio quality" to bother ruining my hearing over, I do agree with MiiLos in relation to the low levels of distortion of the Dynaudio system, and for me, that's what I bought it.

For what it's worth, I listen to mostly "Progressive/Gothic/Symphonic/Classic" Rock and Metal, as well as a spattering of various classical, jazz, indie, ska, whatever genres. I detest "electronic" music and my view of "subwoofers" in "music" is that they're used by people who have no idea about music to fix the fact that their front speakers are too crap to reproduce "music" properly.

As such, the Dynaudio is acceptible for the short periods of time that I'm in the car. I think I have the bass set to +2, but the mid and treble on 0. I feel the bass (real bass, not doof doof bass since that ain't real) is fine in the Dynaudio system when the car is off, but a little thin when competing with the exhaust note of the R, hence changing it to +2.

As per triode12's comments. I'll listen to the majority of music on my home system or my Sennheiser HD650s + Headroom amp/dac stack etc :)

triode12
07-07-2011, 10:50 AM
Whilst I don't believe the Dynaudio is of sufficient "audio quality" to bother ruining my hearing over, I do agree with MiiLos in relation to the low levels of distortion of the Dynaudio system, and for me, that's what I bought it.

For what it's worth, I listen to mostly "Progressive/Gothic/Symphonic/Classic" Rock and Metal, as well as a spattering of various classical, jazz, indie, ska, whatever genres. I detest "electronic" music and my view of "subwoofers" in "music" is that they're used by people who have no idea about music to fix the fact that their front speakers are too crap to reproduce "music" properly.

As such, the Dynaudio is acceptible for the short periods of time that I'm in the car. I think I have the bass set to +2, but the mid and treble on 0. I feel the bass (real bass, not doof doof bass since that ain't real) is fine in the Dynaudio system when the car is off, but a little thin when competing with the exhaust note of the R, hence changing it to +2.

As per triode12's comments. I'll listen to the majority of music on my home system or my Sennheiser HD650s + Headroom amp/dac stack etc :)

I have AKG K1000 and K701 running off an SQ84 tube amp myself. Are you on head-fi.org?
My 2 channel rig is a Modded Marantz CD63SE, Krell KSP7B pre, KSA80B power amp driving Apogee Stage ribbons.

zbeasty
07-07-2011, 11:32 AM
Whilst I don't believe the Dynaudio is of sufficient "audio quality" to bother ruining my hearing over, I do agree with MiiLos in relation to the low levels of distortion of the Dynaudio system, and for me, that's what I bought it.

For what it's worth, I listen to mostly "Progressive/Gothic/Symphonic/Classic" Rock and Metal, as well as a spattering of various classical, jazz, indie, ska, whatever genres. I detest "electronic" music and my view of "subwoofers" in "music" is that they're used by people who have no idea about music to fix the fact that their front speakers are too crap to reproduce "music" properly.

As such, the Dynaudio is acceptible for the short periods of time that I'm in the car. I think I have the bass set to +2, but the mid and treble on 0. I feel the bass (real bass, not doof doof bass since that ain't real) is fine in the Dynaudio system when the car is off, but a little thin when competing with the exhaust note of the R, hence changing it to +2.

As per triode12's comments. I'll listen to the majority of music on my home system or my Sennheiser HD650s + Headroom amp/dac stack etc :)

I spend at least 15 hours a week in my car so sound is important. My wife is constantly asking if I'm deaf but I just like my music loud. I'm a bass head through and through but also appreciate a great sounding system. My first install only had front splits and 3 subs, got great scores in sound offs for the SQ and staging and still got a respectable 133db despite it being very simple. It still didn't have enough bass for me though so my last system was factory everything but with 2 x 15 inch MTX in a ported box. It was enough to set off car alarms and be told by the police to turn it down even though I had my windows up.

Marty at FHRX has already quoted me on a new system for my R and the majority of the cost is actually in the sound deadening and installation. Equipment is the cheapest part. Best $1300 you could spend on the factory system would be to dynamat everywhere you can. If you have cash left over after that for the distortion issues I would suggest putting some high pass filters (caps) on your mids and running a sub for bass. It will increase the power handling capacity of the factory speakers and let them do what they do best. Depending on your addiciton to bass you may be able to get away with a small underseat sub and not loose any space in the hatch. The dynamat will also mean that the ambient noise level is lower and you shouldn't have to turn the stereo up as much.

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 11:53 AM
lol... different worlds zbeasty, different worlds :)

@triode12. Nice setups there. I'm more than likely registered at head-fi.org, but I don't often go there and never post. I've got too many different hobbies ;)
I've also got a pair of then top-model Ultimate Ears UE10-Pros which I've literally spent thousands of hours listening to over the past 5 years as I have them on me full-time at work. It's "difficult" to take them out and listen to such systems as the MKV or MK6 stereo.
I'm currently considering a JH Audio JH16 Pro + JH-3A DSP Amp (http://www.jhaudio.com/collection-promusic.php#2) to replace my UE10-Pros (I'm considering having them remolded for my gf). But I'm waiting to read a few reviews from well respected reviewers before making that purchase :)

triode12
07-07-2011, 11:58 AM
lol... different worlds zbeasty, different worlds :)

@triode12. Nice setups there. I'm more than likely registered at head-fi.org, but I don't often go there and never post. I've got too many different hobbies ;)
I've also got a pair of then top-model Ultimate Ears UE10-Pros which I've literally spent thousands of hours listening to over the past 5 years as I have them on me full-time at work. It's "difficult" to take them out and listen to such systems as the MKV or MK6 stereo.
I'm currently considering a JH Audio JH16 Pro + JH-3A DSP Amp (http://www.jhaudio.com/collection-promusic.php#2) to replace my UE10-Pros (I'm considering having them remolded for my gf). But I'm waiting to read a few reviews from well respected reviewers before making that purchase :)

IEMs aren't my cup of tea. It feels weird having them in my ears but I have read good things about the JHs. I'll stop now - getting OT. Sorry.:)

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 12:04 PM
lol yes, it's definitely weird at first. But far less weird than walking around a corporate office with full-sized headphones on your head and large amps strapped to your waist ;)

Hehehe, damn that OT! Alright, back to Dynaudio! :)
Stock system = unacceptable
Dynaudio system = acceptable
:D

triode12
07-07-2011, 12:44 PM
For me:
Stock system = meh...but acceptable
Dynaudio system = why waste your $$.

T Go
07-07-2011, 12:51 PM
my dealer was under the impression that VW was going to drop the Dynaudio as an option and go with another brand.... don't know how accurate that is.

zbeasty
07-07-2011, 12:58 PM
There is Fender system in some of the US cars. Apparently makes the Dynaudio system sound very ordinary.

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 01:20 PM
The reports I heard claimed the Fender system sounds very "Fender stylised" but not particularly "tonally neutral" or accurate. It's kinda like those "Marshall Headphones" which are meant to "recreate the legendary Marshall rock sound", yet what they really do is completely destroy well recorded music by colourising the sound etc.

I reserve judgement until I had the opportunity to hear the Fender system myself. But chances are we never will, because Fender is a famous US brand, not Australian.

astro
07-07-2011, 03:35 PM
does the Dynauido in the MK6 golf /R do this?

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This is in a pologti ... could see if it had the dynaudio option...

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 03:40 PM
Does what?
Display song information from radio stations? That's nothing to do with Dynaudio. The RCD310 (as per the photo), RCD510 or RNS510 all support that if the actual radio station bothers to send the information.

Ferni
07-07-2011, 03:44 PM
Does what?
Display song information from radio stations? That's nothing to do with Dynaudio. The RCD310 (as per the photo), RCD510 or RNS510 all support that if the actual radio station bothers to send the information.

Are you sure the RNS510 does it? How do i turn it on?

SMOK3Y
07-07-2011, 04:00 PM
do the radios in Golfs recieve digital signal or still analog?

MkVIGTI
07-07-2011, 04:02 PM
Just tick the radio text on the RNS510 when in radio

MkVIGTI
07-07-2011, 04:02 PM
do the radios in Golfs recieve digital signal or still analog?

Analog still

MiiLos
07-07-2011, 04:42 PM
arghh.. i asked the same question in the Audio threads. i was actually told by a deler that the RCD510 gets digital signal :S

Ferni
07-07-2011, 07:45 PM
Just tick the radio text on the RNS510 when in radio

Where is the tick box?

Corey_R
07-07-2011, 07:54 PM
I'd guess at Settings > Radio...

xordis
07-07-2011, 08:02 PM
arghh.. i asked the same question in the Audio threads. i was actually told by a deler that the RCD510 gets digital signal :S

Well technically it gets a digital signal .... it doesn't know what to do with it though :-)

The UK unit I believe has some digital tuner in it, but the AU one is analog.

backdoc
07-07-2011, 09:19 PM
arghh.. i asked the same question in the Audio threads. i was actually told by a deler that the RCD510 gets digital signal :S

You seemed to get alot of dud info from your dealer if it all came from the same person!

MiiLos
07-07-2011, 09:28 PM
Haha nah this information came from the Essendon VW dealership. This was also from the same guy that told me optioning the 18's also means the GTI comes with a camber kit.

I didn't believe the digital radio signal part, but thought I'd get a definitive answer from someone here.

MkVIGTI
08-07-2011, 10:05 AM
Where is the tick box?

Can't remember what it's called but it's one of the options just below all the radio stations on screen, once you pressed it a window pops up and radio text is one of the options on that window

Ferni
08-07-2011, 11:59 AM
Can't remember what it's called but it's one of the options just below all the radio stations on screen, once you pressed it a window pops up and radio text is one of the options on that window

are you thinking of "tp" ? That is a tick box under extras but there is no radio text under there on mine. I think you may be thinking of the rcd510. For some stupid reason the more expensive rns510 doesn't seem to do radio text.

MkVIGTI
08-07-2011, 12:04 PM
Yes I was thinking of the RCD510. I thought the RNS510 would be the same though...

Ferni
08-07-2011, 02:57 PM
Yes I was thinking of the RCD510. I thought the RNS510 would be the same though...

Yeah you would think so wouldn't you :)

MkVIGTI
08-07-2011, 04:43 PM
I mean, it looks the same :P

Ideo
08-07-2011, 05:09 PM
Does what?
Display song information from radio stations? That's nothing to do with Dynaudio. The RCD310 (as per the photo), RCD510 or RNS510 all support that if the actual radio station bothers to send the information.

Sorry - stupid question. The RCD510 is the standard R headunit, and the RNS510 is the Sat Nav headunit, right?

Corey_R
08-07-2011, 05:19 PM
Correct :)

Ideo
08-07-2011, 05:29 PM
Cheers.

*runs home to turn on radio text*

MiiLos
14-07-2011, 10:52 PM
Been reading up on the Dynaudio system recently in deciding on which sub to pair with it to finish off the package. Not looking for anything over the top, just after that extra bit of bass punch to finish off the system. In my short search I think I'm going to go with the Focal BUS 25 (http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/subwoofers.html#bus25).

While reading I came across a post in another forum in which the member posted the findings of an engineer's acoustics test in a Golf equipped with the Dynaudio system. The EQ settings for best sound results were; Tweeter: -8, Mid: +4, Bass: -3. This member stated the outcome was 'amaizing'. I'll no doubt be testing this once I collect my GTI next week, but was wondering if anyone with the Dynaudio equipped could try these settings and report on what they think? :)

Mariani
15-07-2011, 01:26 AM
Been reading up on the Dynaudio system recently in deciding on which sub to pair with it to finish off the package. Not looking for anything over the top, just after that extra bit of bass punch to finish off the system. In my short search I think I'm going to go with the Focal BUS 25 (http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/subwoofers.html#bus25).

While reading I came across a post in another forum in which the member posted the findings of an engineer's acoustics test in a Golf Bang For Yourequipped with the Dynaudio system. The EQ settings for best sound results were; Tweeter: -8, Mid: +4, Bass: -3. This member stated the outcome was 'amaizing'. I'll no doubt be testing this once I collect my GTI next week, but was wondering if anyone with the Dynaudio equipped could try these settings and report on what they think? :)

Doesn't the Dynaudio hold much Bass? I thought it cranked hard. Never really got a chance to test it properly.

Brendan_A
15-07-2011, 07:10 AM
Doesn't the Dynaudio hold much Bass? I thought it cranked hard. Never really got a chance to test it properly.

The Dynaudio has plenty of bass for the system it is. I added Dynamat to both front doors which added quite a fair bit more bass and volume. You would now think I have a 8" sub in the boot. If I was to go a sub I would buy an Image Dynamics 10" but I won't be as its a waste of space and it doesn't need it.

People need to realize that Dyn speakers need at least 100Hr plus run time before they start to sound their best. The more use the better they sound.

Corey_R
15-07-2011, 10:19 AM
Doesn't the Dynaudio hold much Bass? I thought it cranked hard. Never really got a chance to test it properly.
You're reading the results wrong. They're saying that the Dynaudio is outputting TOO MUCH bass (and way too much treble), so that to get "acoustically accurate frequency results" you need to turn DOWN the bass by 3, turn down the treble by 8, and turn up the mid by 4.



People need to realize that Dyn speakers need at least 100Hr plus run time before they start to sound their best. The more use the better they sound.
Very true. They have improved with time, like many good audio components do during their initial usage.

MiiLos
15-07-2011, 10:29 AM
Thanks for that comment Corey - I should have added that into my original post. This was infact the findings of the guy doing the testing. i.e. the Dynaudio system is rather treble heavy and to get accurate acoustic levels the mid needed to be raised whilst notching down the bass.

It will be interesting to experiment with the settings and see the results as I usually turn up the treble to get a clearer output along with going up 1 or 2 notches on the bass in stock car systems.

futori
15-07-2011, 11:05 AM
The EQ settings for best sound results were; Tweeter: -8, Mid: +4, Bass: -3. This member stated the outcome was 'amaizing'.

Tried those settings on the way into work today, I wasn't too impressed, but there's so many other variables involved (I don't think my Dynaudio is fully broken in, was listening to rock where I find I usually like the 'scooped' mid sound, iPod MP3 bitrate/quality, etc.)

I ended up bringing the bass and treble back up a few notches, but I'll try some other genres on the way home and see how the -8/+4/-3 setting sounds.

langers_sydney
15-07-2011, 11:16 AM
Agreed, we need to know the genre of music tested, electronic will sound way different to Rock on those settings.....

Corey_R
15-07-2011, 11:43 AM
I've personally left the treble and mid at 0 and put the bass to 2. This has worked well on most of the material I listen to (Progessive rock and metal, classic rock/hard rock and heavy metal through to modern heavy/death/symphonic/gothic/alternative rock and metal, industrial, indie, ska, and various classical, folk, blues and jazz including some A Capella).

I find that on "bad recordings" the treble and detail of the Dynaudio can just make them sound worse, so turning down the treble a few notches is good. I'll try out the -8/4/-3 EQ settings, but I highly doubt that they are the "acoustically correct" values.


But I mean, this IS A CAR.

The cheapest Stereophile Recommended A/A+ "Stereo system" that you can buy is the following:
"CD Player": SCD-XA5400ES - US$1,500 (this is amazingly cheap. The next cheapest being US$5950 for Ayre Acoustics C-5xeMP)
Since the above actually IS a CD player and not just a transport, not DAC/digital processor required.
Pre-amplifier: Parasound Halo JC 2 - US$4,000
Power-amplifier: Ayre Acoustics V-5xe - US$4,950
Speakers: Revel Ultima Studio2 - US$15,998
You'll then need a suitable Coax digital interconnect etc between the CD and Pre, a pair of XLR interconnects between the Pre and Power, and a set of speaker cables... can't be bothered listing them, but use "the rule of 10%" and you get US$2,285

So the cheapest A/A+ "Stereo system" you can get is US$28,733 - and that's assuming that all those components actually play well together. You could safely double that cost if you bought them here in Australia.

But anyway... my point is, we can't be too critical of a $1000 (or $1300 depending on your Golf model) stereo upgrade when the "reference" in audio starts at US$28,733

stickshift3000
15-07-2011, 11:45 AM
This has worked well on most of the material I listen to (Progessive rock and metal, classic rock/hard rock and heavy metal through to modern heavy/death/symphonic/gothic/alternative rock and metal, industrial, indie, ska, and various classical, folk, blues and jazz including some A Capella).


It might have been easier if you told us what you DONT listen to! ; )

langers_sydney
15-07-2011, 11:49 AM
Corey hates Drum Machines.

Corey_R
15-07-2011, 12:04 PM
Lol yes... I don't listen to anything "electronic", so dance, "drum & bass", etc etc, or where the "group" doesn't play any instruments, so most pop, r&b, rap, grr. I'm a guitarist, so I'm pretty pig-headed when it comes to my musical views :)
Industrial, is about as electronic I can get (so Nine Inch Nails etc) cause they'll still get out there an actually play their stuff each time - even if the guitar is on a rack plugged in via a heap of electronic and computers to produce the "industrial sounds" etc.

Ideo
15-07-2011, 12:06 PM
Corey hates Drum Machines.

And Autotune.

I have the treble way down, mid about medium and bass up to 4.

Corey_R
15-07-2011, 12:12 PM
And Autotune.
Lol... with a passion. I hated it even before Cher made it famous... cause before that it was being used to fix all the talentless hacks who can't sing yet are selling millions of records on the "pop charts".

MiiLos
15-07-2011, 12:22 PM
Lol... with a passion. I hated it even before Cher made it famous... cause before that it was being used to fix all the talentless hacks who can't sing yet are selling millions of records on the "pop charts".

*cough* Brian McFadden *cough*

Ideo
15-07-2011, 12:56 PM
Lol... with a passion. I hated it even before Cher made it famous... cause before that it was being used to fix all the talentless hacks who can't sing yet are selling millions of records on the "pop charts".

I used to be like that until I gave the new Bon Iver CD a play.

But by and large I agree.

Mariani
16-07-2011, 03:27 PM
Lol... with a passion. I hated it even before Cher made it famous... cause before that it was being used to fix all the talentless hacks who can't sing yet are selling millions of records on the "pop charts".

On Limp Bizkit's new album they have a song called autotunage, essentially taking the p*** out it.

If anyone knocks daft punks - one more time - there will be trouble

: )-

Mariani
16-07-2011, 10:12 PM
Found the optimal EQ setting tonight: knock the treble up a few notches, mid down at least half way almost 3/4, increase the bass by a tad more than a few notches. IMO best all round setting. Wll post exact numbers tomorrow.

Corey_R
16-07-2011, 11:37 PM
Are you sure that your iPod doesn't have some EQ on it which is causing you to need those settings? One thing the Dynaudio don't need is additional treble! Especially if you've got the mid down :)

aVex
17-07-2011, 12:39 PM
Are you sure that your iPod doesn't have some EQ on it which is causing you to need those settings? One thing the Dynaudio don't need is additional treble! Especially if you've got the mid down :)

If the MDI is using the line out from the dock connector then EQ settings doesn't apply as the EQ is only used for the headphone jack.

Mariani
17-07-2011, 09:20 PM
If the MDI is using the line out from the dock connector then EQ settings doesn't apply as the EQ is only used for the headphone jack.

Exactly, EQ and other settings are disengaged when Line Out connector is attached.

Corey, IMO the mids are way too evident with the Dynaudio. A hard snare drum destroys your ears. Treble is beautiful, although half way is not enough, it needs a few notches. Same with the bass.

Mic

Corey_R
17-07-2011, 09:26 PM
Wait until it breaks in...

armpic
14-02-2012, 11:09 AM
have the dynaudio with my GTI order last month.
on my contract of the purchase it says "Dynaudio 600w Audio system". i think it must be wrong with the amp power, all golf model should get only 300w.
i think my dealer just put this by mistake. what should i do? let them know or wait till i pick up the car and point out the different from the contract and get some freebee...:rolleyes:

SChan
14-02-2012, 12:11 PM
have the dynaudio with my GTI order last month.
on my contract of the purchase it says "Dynaudio 600w Audio system". i think it must be wrong with the amp power, all golf model should get only 300w.
i think my dealer just put this by mistake. what should i do? let them know or wait till i pick up the car and point out the different from the contract and get some freebee...:rolleyes:

armpic,
Yes, Dynaudio is only 300 W System. Not sure that small typo will get you any freebee...! May be being transparent & polite get you something...

Cheers,

AdamD
14-02-2012, 01:10 PM
i think my dealer just put this by mistake. what should i do? let them know or wait till i pick up the car and point out the different from the contract and get some freebee...:rolleyes:

VW offers several Dynaudio systems across different models. In the Golf, it's the 300w Excite system. In the Passat CC, for example, it's an entirely different 600w system. Chances are the dealer just has a standard lineitem for a Dynaudio upgrade, which is a bit sloppy. I certainly don't think you'd get anywhere pressing the dealer for any concessions on it though.

TheMilkman
16-06-2012, 11:00 AM
Hi guys I've now got myself a Gold R with the stock sound system and with just over a week of driving, I'm not really that impressed with the sound quality of the stock system. While it has sufficient base, it lacks mid range and clarity which gives a nice 'warm' sound to each song. My previous car was a Mazda 3 SP23 with a stock 6 speaker Bose system which puts this to shame. What are the thoughts of people that have heard both the stock and upgrade? Is $1500 worth the upgrade? Is the stereo the same manufacturer, speaker size etc

brimway
16-06-2012, 12:17 PM
In my opinion, the VW Dynaudio option is not worth the money so I went this way

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f78/golf-r-sound-upgrade-pics-71966.html

If you don't want more bass, just go for the front splits and 1 amp. The Dynaudio I had fitted are brilliant, although not cheap.

DoggieHowser
16-06-2012, 12:41 PM
I fitted my wife's Golf 77TSI with a Dynaudio Excite 252GT (shallower) and a JL Audio power amp

I didn't know the non GT would work as well.

BTW, there are line outs on the RCD510 so you can use a better external power amp?

brimway
16-06-2012, 12:48 PM
The amps I used are Arc Audio, a perfect fit under the seat. My RNS510 has no RCAs but they are not essential, just easier. The RCD510 that came fitted to my MY12 had no RCAs, so maybe you got lucky.

DoggieHowser
16-06-2012, 01:56 PM
I didn't have an rcd510. Mine came with 310. So I swapped it out for an Alpine touchscreen satnav and reverse camera.

So how did you hook your power amp up? Using speaker level?

DoggieHowser
16-06-2012, 01:58 PM
Thing is the Dynaudio factory fitted has a Blaupunkt amp so there must be a way to tap into an external amp

brimway
16-06-2012, 02:02 PM
Mine had no external amp, unlike the MKV GTI I had. I didn't do the install, but yes amp hooked up via speaker outlet at HD

AdamD
16-06-2012, 06:28 PM
Hi guys I've now got myself a Gold R with the stock sound system and with just over a week of driving, I'm not really that impressed with the sound quality of the stock system. While it has sufficient base, it lacks mid range and clarity which gives a nice 'warm' sound to each song. My previous car was a Mazda 3 SP23 with a stock 6 speaker Bose system which puts this to shame. What are the thoughts of people that have heard both the stock and upgrade? Is $1500 worth the upgrade? Is the stereo the same manufacturer, speaker size etc

I've merged your thread with the existing one on the Dynaudio system.

Lots of opinions on it. The most common seems to be that it's excellent value for $1500, but obviously you can do better if you go aftermarket (and spend a lot more). I love the Dynaudio in my Golf.

brimway
16-06-2012, 06:36 PM
A subjective topic, so long as you like it, that's all that matters. eg I like cats

AdamD
16-06-2012, 06:38 PM
A subjective topic, so long as you like it, that's all that matters.

Very true indeed.


I like cats

That's crazy talk! :P

brimway
16-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Very true indeed.



That's crazy talk! :P

I do like cats, but I couldn't eat a whole one

walbjj
17-06-2012, 08:42 PM
Hi guys I've now got myself a Gold R with the stock sound system and with just over a week of driving, I'm not really that impressed with the sound quality of the stock system. While it has sufficient base, it lacks mid range and clarity which gives a nice 'warm' sound to each song. My previous car was a Mazda 3 SP23 with a stock 6 speaker Bose system which puts this to shame. What are the thoughts of people that have heard both the stock and upgrade? Is $1500 worth the upgrade? Is the stereo the same manufacturer, speaker size etc

actually, for about the same spend, u can go aftermarket with front splits, amp, and an underseat sub or a small sub.
i did this for my car and it was about $1k installed. granted i bought all my stuff online, as buying locally u will pay more than double.

DoggiesUtd
26-02-2013, 09:39 AM
does dynaudio come stock in 2012 147tsi highline jetta?

AdamD
27-02-2013, 07:51 AM
does dynaudio come stock in 2012 147tsi highline jetta?

Very unlikely, but I would check the Jetta forum, the VW website, or the brochure.

DoggiesUtd
20-03-2013, 11:12 AM
i dont think it comes stock...but is the sound system in the highling jetta better then the base jetta?
i had a mad setup in previous car...but have sold it now...and im thinking i wont b able to deal with the new without a sub!