How to tell difference between 1.9 and 2.0 TDI?

[brenno]

First post.....though I've been reading for a while.

Assuming both cars have been debadged and both are Comfortlines, is there an easy way to tell the difference between a 1.9 and 2.0 TDI?

To me, they would appear exactly the same right?

Are there any noticeable or obvious differences?

[brackie]

Externally and internally...just the same. But drive them and you'll notice the difference immediately! And welcome!

[eestison]

Externally and internally...just the same. But drive them and you'll notice the difference immediately! And welcome!

i could not agree more.

oh, and welcome!

[brenno]

Ta for the welcome.

My point is, that if by chance you see a TDI in a car yard with no badges, how are you meant to tell them apart? You may not have the luxury of being able to compare with another, so is there a definitive way to set them apart in that situation?

Say a crafty salesperson decides to sell a 1.9 as a 2.0. I have seen a 1.9 advertised as a 2.0 but the Trendline spec was a bit of a giveaway.

[Guy_H]

Engine code!

[brenno]

Excellent :)

Do you have the different engine codes on hand by chance?

[mikinoz]

Look at the delivery sticker in the logbook.

[gtimk5]

Check out the Kws in the front of the service manual and I am not sure if the engine cover actually has 2l on it??
Welcome to the forum, its great to have you here!
Cheers, Andrew:)

[Guy_H]

1.9's

BKC, BRU

2.0's

AZV, BKD

Good luck :)

[TDI DSG]

The grills are different - the black cross hatch grill under the number plate is more open/has bigger holes on the 2.0 than the 1.9. If you have a look its obvious on 07 models anyway.

[GoLfMan]

ones 8v ones 16v, but that may not be apparent... :) cos the engine covers are both plastic

[brenno]

Thanks for the above posts, they are quite helpful.

I've found another difference myself. They look fairly similar under the bonnet to a layperson, but in the 2.0 the dipstick opening is on the far left of the plastic cover whereas on the 1.9 it's in the middle.

[Lima]

Just ask your friendly salesperson. You can trust them. j:

[acdcfan]

There is few differences between the two.
I have just visited John Hughes web site ( VW dealer in WA, Perth) and results are as follow. Please read carefully

1.9L diesel (Trendline manual) and things that it has inside:

6 Speaker Stereo
Headrests - Adjustable 2nd Row x3

ABS (Antilock Brakes)
Heat Insulated - Side Windows

Adjustable Steering Col. - Tilt & Reach
Heat Insulated - Windscreen

Air Conditioning
Independent Front Suspension

Airbags - Driver & Passenger (Dual)
Independent Rear Suspension

Airbags - Head for 1st Row Seats (Front)
Intermittent Wipers - Variable

Airbags - Head for 2nd Row Seats
Map/Reading Lamps - for 1st Row

Airbags - Side for 1st Row Occupants (Front)
Power Door Mirrors - Heated

Armrest - Front Centre (Shared)
Power Steering - Speed Sensitive

Body Colour - Bumpers
Power Windows - Front & Rear

Body Colour - Exterior Mirrors Partial
Rear Wiper/Washer

CD Player
Remote Fuel Lid Release

Central Locking - Remote/Keyless
Seatbelt - Load Limiters 1st Row (Front)

Centre Console - Cool Box
Seatbelt - Pretensioners 1st Row (Front)

Control - Traction
Seatbelts - Lap/Sash for 5 seats

Disc Brakes Front Ventilated
Seats - 2nd Row Split Fold

Disc Brakes Rear Solid
Speed Dependant Wipers

EBD (Electronic Brake force Distribution)
Sunvisor - Vanity Mirror for Driver

Engine Immobiliser
Sunvisor - Vanity Mirror for Passenger

Glovebox - Cooled
Tacho

Headrests - Active 1st Row (Front)
Trim - Cloth

2.0L diesel (Comfortline manual)

10 Speaker Stereo
Independent Rear Suspension

15" Alloy Wheels
Intermittent Wipers - Variable

ABS (Antilock Brakes)
Leather Gear Knob

Adjustable Steering Col. - Tilt & Reach
Leather Hand Brake Lever

Air Conditioning
Leather Steering Wheel

Airbags - Driver & Passenger (Dual)
Map/Reading Lamps - for 1st Row

Airbags - Head for 1st Row Seats (Front)
Map/Reading Lamps - for 2nd Row

Airbags - Head for 2nd Row Seats
Multi-function Steering Wheel

Airbags - Side for 1st Row Occupants (Front)
Power Door Mirrors - Heated

Armrest - Front Centre (Shared)
Power Steering - Speed Sensitive

Armrest - Rear Centre (Shared)
Power Windows - Front & Rear

Body Colour - Bumpers
Rain Sensor (Auto wipers)

Body Colour - Exterior Mirrors Partial
Rear View Mirror - Electric Anti Glare

CD Player
Rear Wiper/Washer

Central Locking - Remote/Keyless
Remote Fuel Lid Release

Centre Console - Cool Box
Seat - Drivers Lumbar Adjustment Manual

Control - Traction
Seat - Passenger Lumbar Adjustment Manual

Cruise Control
Seatback Pockets - 1st Row (Front) seats

Disc Brakes Front Ventilated
Seatbelt - Load Limiters 1st Row (Front)

Disc Brakes Rear Solid
Seatbelt - Pretensioners 1st Row (Front)

EBD (Electronic Brake force Distribution)
Seatbelts - Lap/Sash for 5 seats

Engine Immobiliser
Seats - 2nd Row Split Fold

Footwell Lamps - Front
Speed Dependant Wipers

Glovebox - Cooled
Sunvisor - Illuminated Vanity Mirror for Driver

Headrests - Active 1st Row (Front)
Sunvisor - Illuminated Vanity Mirror for Passenger

Headrests - Adjustable 2nd Row x3
Tacho

Heat Insulated - Side Windows
Trip Computer

Heat Insulated - Windscreen
Velour Trim

Independent Front Suspension

sorry for a long post, somehow copy and paste did not come out as I wanted it

[brenno]

Yes, it's pretty easy to tell the difference visually between a Trendline and a Comfortline, regardless of engine spec. My question though, was directed towards the differences between the Comfortline specs of either engine.

It's pretty difficult to tell the difference if by chance a dealer had removed the badges, which means it may be tempting for a dodgy dealer to try and sell a 1.9 TDI as a 2.0 TDI.

[phaeton]

Hopefully when it comes time for my mum to buy a Golf Comfortline (hopefully diesel 1.9TDI ;)) she gets the 2.0TDI by accident :D lol

[acdcfan]

Yes, it's pretty easy to tell the difference visually between a Trendline and a Comfortline, regardless of engine spec. My question though, was directed towards the differences between the Comfortline specs of either engine.

It's pretty difficult to tell the difference if by chance a dealer had removed the badges, which means it may be tempting for a dodgy dealer to try and sell a 1.9 TDI as a 2.0 TDI.

Comfortline comes with alloy wheels, Trendline doesn't and i think that VW sign in the middle of the wheel is smaller on Trendline and speakers. Comfortline has 10 (three speakers each in drivers and passenger door) Trendline has 6 dealer cannot remove that

[brenno]

Read my post again :)

[jets]

My 06 2.0 TDI has engine code BKD & yes dipstick is offset to the left.

[acdcfan]

Read my post again :)

I should, shouldn't I...... but you still asking about visual difference when all badges are removed

[brenno]

....between the Comfortlines yes, hence the reason I started this thread. I've already stated how easy and obvious it is to tell the differences between the Trendline and the Comfortline.

All I wanted to know was the difference between the two Comfortline specifications, not the Trendline.

[Goneincognito]

This actually happened a couple of months ago.. There was a 1.9 TDI Comfortline Golf that a dealer in Ballarat was selling as a 2.0 (he swears it was a 2.0). I asked him to prove it to me as it was badged as a 1.9 (only the TDI badge) and he couldn't.

I got the VIN, did some research and found that it was in fact a 1.9. I went back to the dealer who didn't really seem to care.

I hope the person who brought that car did their homework otherwise they are in for a nasty supprise.