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alphabeatsco
15-01-2010, 01:52 PM
i went to the dealers few days ago and they claimed there's no GTI in AUSTRALIA wide.
the delivery date will be July is that true?
What takes it so long to arrive? Also when purchasing a new vehicle, if the vehicle has already arrived in Australia, does that mean options can not be put on anymore? it has to be at the time of the order?
From the guys on here orders in Dec arrive in April I think it was, so Jan would mean a May landing.
As for options, some options can be fitted by the dealer but others like the reverse camera, or park assist, are a factory fit and must be ordered from build.
xblode
15-01-2010, 02:02 PM
I needed to get a car by the end of 2009 so I didn't have the choice to pick and choose options. Some options, you can get installed later but at a greater cost. For example, MDI iphone kit is about $300 or so from the factory. Dealer fitted it's $550.
On the 9th of December, I was told by two different dealers that there were roughly 4 GTIs per dealer in the whole of Oz. If I wanted one that another dealer had, they could arrange for it.
Now that a month has past, I'd say that your comment would be pretty accurate.
X...
Christopher
15-01-2010, 02:03 PM
I don't know about the "No GTI's Aust. wide", but I've been told that you do have to wait a long time if ordering one new.
I assume that there are some late '09 builds currently on their way, most of which already have homes waiting for them, although you may get lucky and your order may match an unsold one on its way.
Re delivery times, yes, it's been stated in some other threads that the first build week for '10 isn't for another 3-4 weeks, with an estimated delivery of mid April-ish for those cars. People who ordered in Dec most likely have this schedule.
Speaking to my dealer yesterday though, he indicated that they have begun telling customers ordering now for a late May, start of June delivery.
alphabeatsco
15-01-2010, 02:12 PM
wow...didnt know GTI's are so rare.
can't believe you can't buy them, even if you have money.
haha.
so i guess it's either wait or not buy..i wonder how you guys can wait 5-6 months ??? i can barely survive without a car for 1 week,
elisiX
15-01-2010, 02:19 PM
I believe the MKV's were a 6-8 month wait initially?
alphabeatsco
15-01-2010, 02:23 PM
wow...
im all new to this VW golf world...
i remember with toyotas or hondas.
u can get them pretty much straight away...if you got the money
obiwan
15-01-2010, 02:24 PM
I ordered mine Sat 13th Dec and got it Wed the 16th. Nice Christmas present to myself. Went in on the Saturday saying I was ordering a car today no matter what (to get the 50%deprecriation), they said delivery wouldn't be till April or so, unless I took one of 3 cars in stock. There was a white, a silver and a red 3door stock standard. Have no kids so 3 door red suited me fine (after the test drive there was no way I could have waited months for delivery). Just means I got no fancy options. Just bluetooth and tinted windows and personalised plates. I was going to get leather seats, Dyn sound system, navigator etc, so having to get the stock standard car to satisfy my impulsive "I need it now" mentality saved me thousands.
In 3 yrst time though, I'll make sure I order the GTI VII some months in advance!
xblode
15-01-2010, 04:06 PM
I ordered mine Sat 13th Dec and got it Wed the 16th. Nice Christmas present to myself. Went in on the Saturday saying I was ordering a car today no matter what (to get the 50%deprecriation), they said delivery wouldn't be till April or so, unless I took one of 3 cars in stock. There was a white, a silver and a red 3door stock standard. Have no kids so 3 door red suited me fine (after the test drive there was no way I could have waited months for delivery). Just means I got no fancy options. Just bluetooth and tinted windows and personalised plates. I was going to get leather seats, Dyn sound system, navigator etc, so having to get the stock standard car to satisfy my impulsive "I need it now" mentality saved me thousands.
In 3 yrst time though, I'll make sure I order the GTI VII some months in advance!
We share the same story. My accountant said "run! do it now!". Had a choice of red or black (5door DSG) with no other options or I could go for a fully loaded one which sounds great but I ain't forking out all those de niros. They could've got it ready in two days but by the time my finance company cut a cheque, it took a week, a very looooong week!
Whilst I'm sure it was very satisfying to get the car quickly, you only needed to sign the contract before 31 Dec, and take delivery in 2010, as I understood the tax break.
Corey_R
15-01-2010, 04:36 PM
wow...
im all new to this VW golf world...
i remember with toyotas or hondas.
u can get them pretty much straight away...if you got the money
That's because Toyotas and Hondas are so basic. You have a range of colours, and usually only a 'luxury pack' etc. All other 'options' are dealer accessories.
A GTI has a few hundred thousand 'from the factory' combinations.
xblode
15-01-2010, 04:39 PM
Whilst I'm sure it was very satisfying to get the car quickly, you only needed to sign the contract before 31 Dec, and take delivery in 2010, as I understood the tax break.
That's what I thought too. If you turn over less than 2 mil, you have to have it in your hands by end of 2009. Over 2 mil and you can implement by the end of 2010.
I don't think that's right.
http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.asp?doc=/Content/00175431.htm
obiwan
15-01-2010, 04:45 PM
Yeah, but you're missing the real point. I got my car now!!!!!!!!!!! That 4 night wait was murder.
ozvino
15-01-2010, 04:51 PM
Talk to your accountant; within the ATO and forums such as the CPA association they have had discussions around the interpretation of this tax ruling as applied to lease contracts, especially Chattel Mortgages; Im not over the minute detail but the general thought was that a contract had not been entered into between the finance company and the provider of the equipment until the car had arrived and given that you cant have a financial stake in the asset udner a lease/chattel mortgage, if tested your contract is basicly null and void at the time of purchase as the finance company enters into the agreement at that point in time. i.e. you never had a valid contract as you never had any intention to be the owner, remember you dont own the vehicle (asset) until the end of the lease contract (assuming you want to buy it out)
Look, I want to stress im not an accountant at all nor a lawyer, so DO NOT RELY ON MY ADVICE - TALK TO YOUR ACCOUNTANT; I just know that my accountant is as "flexible" as they come and he said to me "get your arse down to that dealer and get the finance company to hand over a cheque prior to December 31 at all costs"; we picked up the car December 30....
Remeber this tax ruling was never originally developed for people buying one off motorvehicles.......
Oh, none of the above applies if you (your business) is purchasing the car with cash
xblode
15-01-2010, 05:24 PM
Very interesting!
Too late now though. Only options I would have gone for were leather and sunroof.
I'll be redoing the interior to leather at the end of the year for about the same dollars as the factory option so only lose the heating aspect. Not worried about the elec adjusting either :)
STV4SYT
15-01-2010, 06:04 PM
From what i was told by my accountant and the dealer, and from the ATO website, though i cant be bothered diggint it up, as long as the item is ordered before 31 december and a "significant" deposit paid, (dealer - $2,000) and delivery taken by the end of 201 then you are eligible for the bonius, which on a $50k car is about $7000 off your tax bill at the end of the tax year.
mattyf83
15-01-2010, 08:12 PM
No GTI's in Aus
There is this one http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?R=8001346&keywords=gti&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany&__D=gti&silo=1011&seot=1&__sid=12633D1EE4D0&__N=1216%201246%201252%204294962746%204294962677&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Cr=3&__Ntt=gti&trecs=54
and it seems like an ok price.
Is a Demo
and some of these (not all would be in stock)
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?Qpb=true&Ntt=gti&keywords=gti&SearchAction=N&N=1216%201246%201252%204294962746%204294962677%204 294769680&sid=12633D1EE4D0&Ntk=CarAll&Dx=mode%20matchany&Nne=15&tsrc=allcarhome&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|1 ||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&D=gti
Re delivery times, yes, it's been stated in some other threads that the first build week for '10 isn't for another 3-4 weeks, with an estimated delivery of mid April-ish for those cars. People who ordered in Dec most likely have this schedule.
I ordered a candy white GTI five door with DSG on 31 December (also thanks to Mr Rudd), the car had a week 1 2010 build. I checked with the dealer this week and he said that it has been built and is in transit somewhere in Germany (? I think) and should be on a ship sometime next week. I would hope that the dealer would not be telling me porkys, because I have a lease that is coming to an end in late Feb (not I am expecting the car by then).
STV4SYT
16-01-2010, 01:41 AM
Good luck GTI's apparently were built week 51 2009 and next lot is week 6 2010. chances are you are a 2009 build.
iBoost
16-01-2010, 07:54 PM
I ordered my GTI today and was told to expect a June delivery, seems the wait is around 5 months currently.
Kirium
16-01-2010, 08:08 PM
Good luck GTI's apparently were built week 51 2009 and next lot is week 6 2010. chances are you are a 2009 build.
Did the "factory resumes builds in week 6" thing come from a single dealer and take on a life of its own from there to become indisputable internet fact, or are there 3+ dealers saying that?
When I ordered my GTI last weekend, I brought up the week 6 thing with the sales manager and he said that that story was bullsh*t. He said he had GTI's being built last week and next week.
All I know is car salesmen didn't earn the reputation they have for nothing... :icon_shrug:
Corey_R
16-01-2010, 09:40 PM
Did the "factory resumes builds in week 6" thing come from a single dealer and take on a life of its own from there to become indisputable internet fact, or are there 3+ dealers saying that?
At seems a few people who've purchased from a few different dealers (even different states) have said this...
Maverick
17-01-2010, 12:49 AM
Good luck GTI's apparently were built week 51 2009 and next lot is week 6 2010. chances are you are a 2009 build.
:bsflag::bs:
ricksterrr
30-01-2010, 11:29 AM
Did the "factory resumes builds in week 6" thing come from a single dealer and take on a life of its own from there to become indisputable internet fact, or are there 3+ dealers saying that?
When I ordered my GTI last weekend, I brought up the week 6 thing with the sales manager and he said that that story was bullsh*t. He said he had GTI's being built last week and next week.
All I know is car salesmen didn't earn the reputation they have for nothing... :icon_shrug:
Although I was originally quoted week 6 for my car, it turned out that it was actually built in week 2, so production was well underway throughout Jan. She's currently sitting on a cargo ship making its way to Southhampton UK :banana:
Note this was for an order placed in November (2nd day after launch).
G-rig
30-01-2010, 11:38 AM
I ordered my GTI today and was told to expect a June delivery, seems the wait is around 5 months currently.
That's a long time.
Ps does anyone know if there are new MK5 GTI's still in stock? 10k+ cheaper wuold be alright.
That's a long time.
Ps does anyone know if there are new MK5 GTI's still in stock? 10k+ cheaper wuold be alright.
That is a long time, but thats for a spec'd car my local dealer has a CG and Black model on the lot for sale of mk6 GTIs, not sure about mk5s I'm sure there are they did have one local (3 dr with leather) not sure if they still have it, and arent there brand new R32s in stock still?
iBoost
30-01-2010, 01:03 PM
Yeah not much you can do, I am not aware of any CW with 18s around. The dealer was honest and said June was worst case scenario, so I may be lucky and have it come earlier. I'd rather know worst case than get my hopes up and be disappointed.
JPwest
31-01-2010, 11:51 AM
Hi all.
I placed an order for red mk6 in wk2 of Nov - only factory options were ACC/MDI. Was told early April delivery. Now been told 29 April at earliest....
obiwan
31-01-2010, 12:04 PM
Ah you guys, I got mine in red in 4 days. Just settled for standard, only added tinted windows and bluetooth. Test drove demo car Sat 12th Dec, ordered car same day, got my new car from the warehouse on Wed 16th Dec. They said any other options, had till wait till at least April, so I thought f*** it, this saves me money and I get it straight away.
obiwan
31-01-2010, 12:14 PM
oops, I had forgotten I already replied to this thread, must still be jetlagged from ski holiday.
G-rig
31-01-2010, 12:20 PM
That's fine if you were happy with a stock one, and know you won't wont those options later. Things like Nav, MDI, Bluetooth can be retrofitted (even aftermarket leather albeit without the elect, airbags or heated) but most people are prepared to wait to get what they want (and waiting is probably half the fun).
Ah you guys, I got mine in red in 4 days. Just settled for standard, only added tinted windows and bluetooth. Test drove demo car Sat 12th Dec, ordered car same day, got my new car from the warehouse on Wed 16th Dec. They said any other options, had till wait till at least April, so I thought f*** it, this saves me money and I get it straight away.
Lol, Similar here looked at GTI on 7 Nov, test drove one on the 11th or 12th, ordered on the 13th and picked up on the 20th, then went of a mk5 GTG on the 21st.
Like you took what they had as I wasnt really all that interested in loads of options, took a red with MDI and added the rear sensors, only wish I had the 18" Detroits.
obiwan
31-01-2010, 01:05 PM
yeah me too, wished I got the detroits
alphabeatsco
03-02-2010, 07:34 PM
so what does that mean?
the delivery dates provided by dealer is utter bullSh*T?
seems like alot of false promises.
i ordered mine in Mid Jan...they said miD May would be delivery date.
but now sounds like it's going to be JULY!?????!?
am i correct?
elisiX
03-02-2010, 07:37 PM
Likely.
Me: Ordered 20th December (probably put through about the 5th Jan)
Expecting 30th April to 1st/2nd week of May.
G-rig
03-02-2010, 07:39 PM
Everybody should order Detroits, be so easy to hock them off later.
alphabeatsco
03-02-2010, 10:52 PM
i still havent received the commission numbr yet...
when should i be receiving that? and do i use commission number to track the car's status?
niulf
04-02-2010, 12:58 AM
i still havent received the commission numbr yet...
when should i be receiving that? and do i use commission number to track the car's status?
My dealer told me when the car is built, they will email me the VIN number, then I can use that to track the car. Unfortunately, I order mine in the middle of Nov. Still haven't receive the VIN yet. I called my dealer before Xmas, he told me the estimated delivery date will be 15/04.
mattyf83
04-02-2010, 09:52 AM
My dealer told me when the car is built, they will email me the VIN number, then I can use that to track the car. Unfortunately, I order mine in the middle of Nov. Still haven't receive the VIN yet. I called my dealer before Xmas, he told me the estimated delivery date will be 15/04.
My dealer emailed me a screen dump of the ETA date and build process from his system. It is basically as follows.
Entered Dealers Sytems: 11/12
Allocation of Plant: 06/02
Handover to production: 13/02
Handover to Sales: 05/03
Exit Plant: 10/3
Arrival Port of Shipment: 15/03
Depart Port: 23/03
Arrive Destination: 05/05
Obviously a VIN number hasnt been allocated yet.
I assume VW's systems are standardised across the board, so you should be able to ask the dealer.
Brandon89
04-02-2010, 11:58 AM
I also now have issues regarding delivery dates. Car was ordered last year december ( car is a CW GTI 5 door man, with detroits). Dealer stated car would be here end of April, and is now stating June. I now have 3 options, upgrade to DSG, get a red one or wait till june. I have no understanding of what couldve caused the delay. Any ideas guys?
team_v
04-02-2010, 12:03 PM
I also now have issues regarding delivery dates. Car was ordered last year december ( car is a CW GTI 5 door man, with detroits). Dealer stated car would be here end of April, and is now stating June. I now have 3 options, upgrade to DSG, get a red one or wait till june. I have no understanding of what couldve caused the delay. Any ideas guys?
I have the same issue with my Tiguan.
Ordered in January and was told it would be 3 months, now it's end of June.
I don't have a specific timeframe in my contract however so i don't know if i am able to do anything about it.
alphabeatsco
04-02-2010, 12:03 PM
feels like they just lie about dates.
to keep you interested.
i have never heard of a buyer received their GTI on time....
Brandon89
04-02-2010, 12:10 PM
what usually causes the delays? is it usually a few things coming together or dealer not filling their allocations on time ?
elisiX
04-02-2010, 12:17 PM
I imagine the delays mostly stem from VW underestimating the demand.
Either that or its deliberate to create mass hysteria and therefore interest. :)
Corey_R
04-02-2010, 12:59 PM
Yeah - I'd say it's a case of the MK6 has pretty much been given every award that it could be given, all around the world, and they've now got so many orders to fulfil that they can't keep up with production.
Also, all those peeps who used to buy Toyota are probably scared off and ordering from VW instead ;) hehe
G-rig
04-02-2010, 01:06 PM
I imagine the delays mostly stem from VW underestimating the demand.
Either that or its deliberate to create mass hysteria and therefore interest. :)
Same thing happened with MK5 GTI's, there were 8 month waits at the start.
MurphyTheElf
04-02-2010, 01:22 PM
I'm surprised dealers are discounting so much considering the cars can't come out fast enough to supply the demand. Seems like they don't really need to.
Christopher
04-02-2010, 01:24 PM
Yes, the wait is agonising.. although as G-rig says, it not as bad as the wait for the Mk5.
Question. Has anyone heard from their dealer re a build week allocation? Also, if so, when did you place your order?
team_v
04-02-2010, 01:32 PM
Yes, the wait is agonising.. although as G-rig says, it not as bad as the wait for the Mk5.
Question. Has anyone heard from their dealer re a build week allocation? Also, if so, when did you place your order?
Ordered my Tiguan in late January.
I just checked with my dealer and he says building in May and delivery in June.
So at least a 3 month delay between ordering and production.
I can definitely see why people pay a premium for car's already on the lot, with options they don't really need/want.
Posible delays could be due to outfitting the factory with equipment etc for the new models (Amarok) and the huge demand for new vw's.
elisiX
04-02-2010, 02:20 PM
Question. Has anyone heard from their dealer re a build week allocation? Also, if so, when did you place your order?
Ordered 20th December. I imagine placed with VW by the 5th Jan.
When I called 2 weeks ago, I was told Week 6 build.
Ordered my Tiguan in late January.
I just checked with my dealer and he says building in May and delivery in June.
So at least a 3 month delay between ordering and production.
I can definitely see why people pay a premium for car's already on the lot, with options they don't really need/want.
This timeframe seems so different from mine above.
Reason being that I am told delivery will be April 30 to 15th May (worse case).
How can yours be built in May but delivered within 4-6 weeks when mine is well over 2 months in between.
elisiX
04-02-2010, 02:21 PM
I'm surprised dealers are discounting so much considering the cars can't come out fast enough to supply the demand. Seems like they don't really need to.
For me, if I wasn't getting a significant discount (like I did), I wouldnt be willing to wait 4 months.
Christopher
04-02-2010, 02:39 PM
Ordered 20th December. I imagine placed with VW by the 5th Jan.
When I called 2 weeks ago, I was told Week 6 build. .......
Your details are pretty much the same as mine. I signed on Dec 12, so I would expect a week 6 / 7 production week and with a delivery of around what you've mentioned.
Emailed my dealer last week but haven't heard anything back. I'll chase them up and see what the go is...
mattyf83
04-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Yes, the wait is agonising.. although as G-rig says, it not as bad as the wait for the Mk5.
Question. Has anyone heard from their dealer re a build week allocation? Also, if so, when did you place your order?
See my previous post
iBoost
04-02-2010, 02:56 PM
I ordered mine 16th January, and was told June delivery worst case scenario. That sounds pretty accurate based on what you guys have been told, hopefully it doesn't get pushed back any further though...
obiwan
04-02-2010, 04:04 PM
So when I need the GTI VII in 3 yrs, I better order it 6months earlier.
G-rig
04-02-2010, 06:48 PM
So when I need the GTI VII in 3 yrs, I better order it 6months earlier.
Just order a year ealier, because by the time you get it you're almost up to the next MY year plate again :eek:
backdoc
05-02-2010, 11:06 AM
I don't know if this has been discussed elsewhere, so apologies if it has, but my patient who has ordered a Golf R has just been informed that due to the "hot climate" in Australia, the R engine has been detuned by 10kw compared to all other countries. Sounds like marketing BS to protect the Ausi S3.
elisiX
05-02-2010, 11:08 AM
Yup discussed a few times.
However once you apply an APR tune as example, it will end up the same at 240KW regardless.
pologti18t
05-02-2010, 12:36 PM
I don't know if this has been discussed elsewhere, so apologies if it has, but my patient who has ordered a Golf R has just been informed that due to the "hot climate" in Australia, the R engine has been detuned by 10kw compared to all other countries. Sounds like marketing BS to protect the Ausi S3.
Except the S3 has the same tune ;)
Corey_R
05-02-2010, 01:31 PM
Except the S3 has the same tune ;)
But the TT-S doesn't...
Hence why it still sounds like market positioning to keep it from being better than an S3 :)
unless its in stock already :banana:
i have never heard of a buyer received their GTI on time....
mobster
05-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Ordered my 5dr MT GTI on 21st Nov. no build week yet. my dealer says the status is ordered. he says the computer says it'll be a May 5 delivery but that doesn't really mean anything. could be sooner or later. he blames the gov tax breaks on new car sales at the end of the year doubling the usual number of orders during nov and dec. and he mentioned something about Australia being only allocated 30 cars a month.
Brandon89
08-02-2010, 10:15 AM
Hi Guys, had some more issues regarding delivery date of my GTI. Car has been allocated week 10 build. ( car was ordered last week nov) and dealer has told me I should recieve car in mid June. The annoying thing about this is the dealer continuously makes out that he has done us a favour and we are priveledged to be recieving the car. I know I am priveledged to be recieving the car but a dealer doesnt need to tell me that. anyways we asked if we could change to a leather option and was advised it was too late. is this true considering the build date?
Brandon
lawsy82
08-02-2010, 10:17 AM
Hi Guys, had some more issues regarding delivery date of my GTI. Car has been allocated week 10 build. ( car was ordered last week nov) and dealer has told me I should recieve car in mid June. The annoying thing about this is the dealer continuously makes out that he has done us a favour and we are priveledged to be recieving the car. I know I am priveledged to be recieving the car but a dealer doesnt need to tell me that. anyways we asked if we could change to a leather option and was advised it was too late. is this true considering the build date?
Brandon
Just cancel the order mate, I did... Im sick of VWA and their buill**** lies
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 10:24 AM
is it true that most buyers have been given false promises? i purchased 2 weeks ago and i was given the deadline at May. Seeing i desperately need a car for work... is it most liekly to be delayed like 2 months!? which makes it July?
lawsy82
08-02-2010, 10:29 AM
is it true that most buyers have been given false promises? i purchased 2 weeks ago and i was given the deadline at May. Seeing i desperately need a car for work... is it most liekly to be delayed like 2 months!? which makes it July?
No chance of a May delivery - My mate at Sth yarra VW has been told there has been a 6-8 week delay, on top of the already quoted 4mth wait... Load of crap
Corey_R
08-02-2010, 10:45 AM
I think that the demand for the GTI, and Golf in general, has far out-numbered estimates. So at this point it seems that the dealers really can't give accurate delivery dates as the manufacturing is so overwhelmed.
To anyone that doesn't have a 'dead-line' to get the car by, then just be patient, it'll get here. To those who do have a dead-line, maybe you should be reconsidering your options.
STV4SYT
08-02-2010, 10:49 AM
Yay, i just got the call that my car is less than a month away.
It's on the Queen Sapphire which is due in melbourne on the 24th, so 10-12 working days after that i should be taking delivery.
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 10:53 AM
steve_tdi...
how many months was the wait?
DonkeyKong
08-02-2010, 11:16 AM
I ordered mine in November and was told recently by the dealer that it is already sitting at a port in German awaiting shipment. It will take another month or two to get here in Australia. I am surprise that it is taking so long to ship.
Mk6 GTI
08-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Just cancel the order mate, I did... Im sick of VWA and their buill**** lies
I doubt it mate.. i added satnav like 2 wks before lol I guess thats easier to fit than leather but still.. you have ages!
team_v
08-02-2010, 11:23 AM
I doubt it mate.. i added satnav like 2 wks before lol I guess thats easier to fit than leather but still.. you have ages!
Satnav can be retro-fitted by the dealer where as leather includes heated seats and electonic controls for the driver and as such will not be able to be retro-fitted.
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 11:23 AM
i've ordered about 2 weeks ago. i havent got a commission number yet.. .should i be hassling for it? and i thought i need another number to online tracking. how come the dealer said he will only give me a COMM number?
team_v
08-02-2010, 11:28 AM
i've ordered about 2 weeks ago. i havent got a commission number yet.. .should i be hassling for it? and i thought i need another number to online tracking. how come the dealer said he will only give me a COMM number?
Just wait it out.
Unless you have a deadline that you need the car for there is no point.
The dealer will only get the vin number when the car is ready to be built which you can then use to track your car.
Hassling them about it won't make the car get built any quicker, there is a massive undersupply of cars and so many on order that waiting times are out to at least 4-5 months now.
Brandon89
08-02-2010, 11:29 AM
I doubt ill cancel my order, i guess ill just have to be patient and wait it out
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 11:30 AM
well what is the use of a commission number?
Corey_R
08-02-2010, 11:38 AM
Commission number is what VW use to track the order, the preparation for the car, and the car prior to and during production. The VIN number is assign at some point during production.
It doesn't sound like the dealer gets the VIN number until the car is practically rolled off the production line and ready for shipping.
(at least that was my understanding of a post somewhere on these boards from a VW dealer).
STV4SYT
08-02-2010, 11:48 AM
steve_tdi...
how many months was the wait?
I ordered it in mid December, the car was a pre-configured one that had already been scheduled for build.
Built week 51 2009
BOOKED BREMEN 06-01-2010 11:54:51 1
RECEIVED AT TERMINAL BREMERHAVEN 16-01-2010 15:00:00 1
LOADED ON VESSEL BREMERHAVEN 17-01-2010 23:00:00 1
BREMERHAVEN GERMANY 15/01/2010 17/01/2010
SOUTHAMPTON UNITED KINGDOM 19/01/2010 19/01/2010
PORT ELIZABETH SOUTH AFRICA 05/02/2010 05/02/2010
EAST LONDON SOUTH AFRICA 06/02/2010 06/02/2010
DURBAN SOUTH AFRICA 07/02/2010 07/02/2010
FREMANTLE AUSTRALIA 19/02/2010 19/02/2010
MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA 24/02/2010 24/02/2010
PORT KEMBLA AUSTRALIA 26/02/2010 26/02/2010
Hopefully that gives you an idea of how long it should take to get here.
Corey_R
08-02-2010, 11:58 AM
wow - you seem to be extremely lucky to have ordered the car in Mid-December and to have it built in week 51.
That would tend to lend weight to the dealers who have said that the VW factory builds different models in batches (ie, TDI's in one week, GTI's in another etc).
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 11:58 AM
steve_tdi
thats very quick.
considering only 3 months.
people here have to wait 6-7 months now.
STV4SYT
08-02-2010, 12:01 PM
The thing you have to take into consideration is that the car i bought was one of about 30 the dealer had ordered in as stock to sell. I think they orderered them some time in november and i was able to go thru the list of cars and options that were already underway and found one that i was happy with.
Christopher
08-02-2010, 01:08 PM
I think the wait of 6-ish months is becoming pretty standard, give or take a couple of weeks.
I ordered my mid dec and I've been told that expected delivery is May, with a build week having already been allocated.
Escell
08-02-2010, 02:04 PM
I'm surprised at the wait times I'm seeing on here. I thought I was copping it at 3.5 months!
I ordered mine during the last wk of October 09. It was a personalized build 5 Door, DSG, ACC, Dynaudio, Reverse Cam, not off a build list.
Orginally my salesman said wk 45 2009 would be build week and to expect it mid January, but that was pushed back a month, which annoyed me (I'll keep my mouth shut now I've read this thread). It's just docked in Melbourne today. Give it a few days of processing and cross fingers I'll be in it this weekend...
VW Aust originally said the wait times experienced with the Mk5 would be solved for the Mk 6 launch. I guess they haven't taken into account how many people don't want to order GTIs that have or lack options they want/don't want.
Christopher
08-02-2010, 02:08 PM
I would have though that it would take a week or so to get the car through customs and then to the dealership for pre-delivery checks, registration, etc... I think you should have it sometime next week.
Yeh, I think VW did underestimate the demand for the Mk6 and supply just hasn't been able to keep up.
Oh well, make the wait more worth it (???), that's what I tell myself anyway...
STV4SYT
08-02-2010, 02:15 PM
Yeah, takes 10-12 working days from the car docks til delivery from what i've been told.
Has to be Offloaded, then Complianced, transported to the dealer, PD'd etc.
Escell
08-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Makes the wait more worth it???
I've been telling myself that every day since September 09 when I walked in, asked about the Mk6 and was greeted with 4 blank stares from a few salesmen.
I didn't really think I'd be in it by the weekend but dare to dream.
team_v
08-02-2010, 02:18 PM
Yeh, I think VW did underestimate the demand for the Mk6 and supply just hasn't been able to keep up.
Oh well, make the wait more worth it (???), that's what I tell myself anyway...
It is probably the demand for the mk6 as it is wining almost every award possible.
It could also be the other models increasing in popularity and the production of the Amarok.
It is also likely to be the fact that not everyone wants an optioned up beast which seems to be the only cars VWA imports, rather than a variety of vehicles in different specs.
It does give one the chance to purchase the supporting mods to whittle away the time, i know that is what i am doing.
1 mod per month to get me through the 5 month wait lol.
Escell
08-02-2010, 02:19 PM
It does give one the chance to purchase the supporting mods to whittle away the time, i know that is what i am doing.
1 mod per month to get me through the 5 month wait lol.
What mods are you getting?
team_v
08-02-2010, 02:36 PM
springs, wheels, tyres, hella lights and stereo/satnav/bluetooth.
Might get a vagcom as well.
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 03:37 PM
the VW dealer just contacted me.
told me the car is allocated to week 18 and will be received after 10 weeks.
he said somewhere in March it will be produced? but isn't week18 from 1st of JAN?
that would be APRIL isnt it?
is that how it works?
team_v
08-02-2010, 03:40 PM
the VW dealer just contacted me.
told me the car is allocated to week 18 and will be received after 10 weeks.
he said somewhere in March it will be produced? but isn't week18 from 1st of JAN?
that would be APRIL isnt it?
is that how it works?
I believe it is from January 1.
If that is the case, week 18 is April 30 - May 7
Sounds about right considering mine is set for a build date in May as well.
alphabeatsco
08-02-2010, 03:43 PM
yeah that's what i thought too.
well this is what he predicts.
i tihnk this will happen in JULY.
most liekly.
trueman
08-02-2010, 04:31 PM
Tweed European had a new (not demo) black dsg with leather and detroits available last week for immediate delivery
GTi Bhoy
08-02-2010, 04:39 PM
There are always cars around you have to find the dealer who has one. If a dealership has a rare car there is no way they will give it to another dealership as they see it as giving away gross profit.
ozvino
08-02-2010, 06:42 PM
It could also be the other models increasing in popularity and the production of the Amarok.
I doubt it; they are making the 4wd ute in Argentina, a long way from Germany and GTI production....
Brandon89
08-02-2010, 09:31 PM
Hey guys, another few questions, based on a week 10 build as per my previous post, that makes 2nd week of March ,why is it suggested the car will only be here in mid June? Also havent double checked the order, can MDI be fitted by the dealer?
Thanks,
Brandon
GTi Crow
08-02-2010, 09:35 PM
I believe it is from January 1.
If that is the case, week 18 is April 30 - May 7
Sounds about right considering mine is set for a build date in May as well.
Not positive, but from when I got my Mk5 the weeks go from the Monday - hence Week 1 is only 1st to 3rd January. This would make week 18 commencing 26th April. Must chase up the dealer on my build week for my Mk6 on order.
Redman
08-02-2010, 11:13 PM
I contact my dealer today who looked up my order. I want a 2010 plated car, which I ordered early December. He said it is due to be built week 7 and then said, that starts tomorrow :banana: so it should be here in April.
Maybe after Easter and double demerit points grab :P
blkmk6
09-02-2010, 02:41 PM
i just called my dealer looking for my VIN number on my black gti (manual), from jan order.
they said delivary is mid to late may :(
team_v
09-02-2010, 02:48 PM
i just called my dealer looking for my VIN number on my black gti (manual), from jan order.
they said delivary is mid to late may :(
I contacted another dealer today to make sure that i wasn't being told porkies from my dealer and they have said that due to the massive increase in demand worldwide the expected delivery for most January orders is late may or june.
blkmk6
09-02-2010, 02:50 PM
I contacted another dealer today to make sure that i wasn't being told porkies from my dealer and they have said that due to the massive increase in demand worldwide the expected delivery for most January orders is late may or june.
yeah the lady said the same thing to me!
JAYDEE
09-02-2010, 02:53 PM
My dealer contacted me a few weeks ago indicating that my GTI had been built. When I got the VIN and entered it into the shipment tracking it indicated that the ship had been booked on 5th January, loaded on the 16th and left on 17th. I have been tracking it since and it is now on it's way to Fremantle. It is due to arrive at Port Kembla on 26th Feb. Give another two weeks for customs, detailing etc. I expect to see it second week of March.
Getting excited!!!
elisiX
09-02-2010, 03:00 PM
Sounds like we will start seeing some nicely specified GTI's about March then.
Christopher
09-02-2010, 03:52 PM
That's brilliant! Finally, a feel good story re GTI delivery!
gregozedobe
09-02-2010, 05:59 PM
I contacted another dealer today to make sure that i wasn't being told porkies from my dealer and they have said that due to the massive increase in demand worldwide the expected delivery for most January orders is late may or june.
Sounds just like the long delays they had when the Mk V Golf GTI was first released.
alphabeatsco
09-02-2010, 09:19 PM
im starting to lose hope.
first it's may...then it'll probably get to sept or even october.
im gonna prolly need to buy a car between this time...they'll just make up their stories as they go along.
Corey_R
09-02-2010, 10:17 PM
they'll just make up their stories as they go along.
Well - I'm not sure it's them 'making up their stories'. It's like with many things in this world, you can only give an estimate based on the information you have. A VW dealer here in Australia doesn't necessarily know that some government in Europe has put an incentive scheme which pushed VW to the largest carmake in the world all of a sudden for 1 month and therefore the factory was about to get twice the amount of orders that they expected for example (this did happen btw, November VW shot to number 1 due to a Euro incentive scheme).
VW's suppliers might not only supply to VW but to other manufacturers - all of a sudden there is a shortage of a component required... there are lots of issues that can arise.
So as information comes to hand, they'll update and readjust their forecasts.
It's not just the car industry - many industries have this situation happen continually. Whenever you purchase something 'custom to order', you have to realise that there are variables.
It's just like building a house vs purchasing a 'previous completed house'. One you can customise as much as you want, but build time will be subject to numerous things, including the weather, another you can't really change much since it's already finished, but you can move in almost immediately.
If waiting isn't suitable for you - then why are you custom ordering a car? If waiting is suitable, then try not to stress, relax, the wait is going to be a long one, but in the end it'll be worth it. :)
team_v
09-02-2010, 10:25 PM
Well - I'm not sure it's them 'making up their stories'. It's like with many things in this world, you can only give an estimate based on the information you have. A VW dealer here in Australia doesn't necessarily know that some government in Europe has put an incentive scheme which pushed VW to the largest carmake in the world all of a sudden for 1 month and therefore the factory was about to get twice the amount of orders that they expected for example (this did happen btw, November VW shot to number 1 due to a Euro incentive scheme).
Could also be those Toyota owners scrambling to get a car that actually works lol.
blkmk6
10-02-2010, 09:05 AM
my recommendation is ask them for a VIN number and if not when you can get the VIN number for you car. so then you can track it yourself. and know how it's progressing. my dealer said early march is when i can get my VIN number.
elisiX
10-02-2010, 11:44 AM
Ok an update. Beamm has left VW Sutherland to go work with his Dad @ Nissan (Not Sutherland). Clinton has taken over my deal. We signed the documents on about the 20th December with an estimated March delivery which changed. Build is in the system as the 6th Feb (week 1 not 2 as earlier advised), but he said it doesn't look like its in production yet (or they haven't updated the system). It's due to arrive on our shores 6th May and delivery 14 days later on about the 20th. This is for the GTI of course.
Spoke with Clinton about the R and explained the predicament and also told him i'd discussed this with Beamm. Again, not an issue if I decide to switch but he's trying to tell me there wont be a discount on the R at all. VW Sutherland supposedly have 3 orders @ full retail so far - mmk. I suggested to him that if I switch, the GTI will be here, almost fully loaded and he can resell it most likely for more than I negotiated to (because there wont be a 4-6 month wait!). At that point he was open to the idea that if they make more on the GTI than I negotiated, the R would most likely get a discount.
It'll all come down to whether RRP is released for the R in May as expected which is when my GTI is due to arrive. I'm looking at it like this. If the GTI is given up, a new deal needs to be drawn up and at that point all they will have is my holding deposit for an R. New R contract would be subject to pricing to cover me in the event that no discount will be allowed and its over budget. If that's the case I may be left without a car - but I am sure it wont come to that.
elisiX
10-02-2010, 11:49 AM
Also just wanted to say - even with an early order like mine in December... its a 5 month wait! 20th December order to 20th May delivery for the GTI.
Corey_R
10-02-2010, 12:12 PM
good luck man!
Escell
10-02-2010, 12:30 PM
Just got confirmation yesterday my optioned GTI is in Port Melbourne on the dock waiting to clear customs. Time to update my sig!:banana:
team_v
10-02-2010, 01:50 PM
Also just wanted to say - even with an early order like mine in December... its a 5 month wait! 20th December order to 20th May delivery for the GTI.
It is most likely due to the Wolfsburg factory shutting down over Christmas.
I was of the belief that it shut down for the last few weeks in december and the first few weeks in January.
Good news about the potential discount on the R though.
STV4SYT
10-02-2010, 01:55 PM
It is most likely due to the Wolfsburg factory shutting down over Christmas.
I was of the belief that it shut down for the last few weeks in december and the first few weeks in January.
Good news about the potential discount on the R though.
My car was built week 51 2009, so im guessing that info is wrong.
I have also heard of week 2 builds.
Id assume that they took the normal holidays, doesnt make sense to shut down a manufacturing plant that cant keep up with demand as it is.....
elisiX
10-02-2010, 01:57 PM
Well I always knew (even if it was internet speculation) that the first builds were not until Late Jan/Early Feb. With regard to the discount on the R - he was adamant there wouldn't be discounts until I mentioned the possible option to resell my optioned and heavily discounted GTI for more. Therefore opening a window for them where they wouldn't lose out overall. Am going to sit on it for another month before I make the final decision anyway. By then it'll be early March, the GTI will be built and on its way and perhaps more info on the R will be available.
team_v
10-02-2010, 02:02 PM
My car was built week 51 2009, so im guessing that info is wrong.
I have also heard of week 2 builds.
Id assume that they took the normal holidays, doesnt make sense to shut down a manufacturing plant that cant keep up with demand as it is.....
Whilst we may have been told build weeks, it is more than likely to be registering the build with the factory.
Since no one here actually works in the factory we will almost never know (unless a dealer chimes in)
It could also just be a skeleton staff on for those 4 weeks.
There was also the unusually freezing temperatures which could have slowed production.
All i know is that May cannot come soon enough for a lot of VWWC
Christopher
10-02-2010, 02:06 PM
...
All i know is that May cannot come soon enough for a lot of VWWC
Team_V - a clairvoyant you are!
elisiX
10-02-2010, 02:09 PM
lol I was going to quote that comment for the truth also!...
Bloody May!
iBoost
10-02-2010, 03:18 PM
Bloody May/June!!!!
If only APR could create a tune to get us there faster...
niulf
11-02-2010, 11:25 PM
I went to my dealer and got all information. The GTI is on a ship which will arrive on 25/02/10.
I put my order on 10/11/09. The car was built on 5/1/10 (2nd day of first week, 2010) and it was loaded on the ship on 17/01/10.
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