View Full Version : Vision 18" Wheels for MKVI GTI
wilsona
15-01-2010, 10:24 AM
Does anyone have any pics of actual GTI's fitted with the black and silver Vision 18" rims shown on the Australian VAG GTI brochure?
http://www.volkswagen.com.au/etc/medialib/vwcms/virtualmaster/en_au/new_cars/golf/pricing___specifications.Par.0028.File.pdf/78516_golf_gti_brochure.pdf
I've ordered my 2010 GTI with the 18" Detroits but only because it was a good deal to get the 18" rubber. Pretty sure I want different OEM rims as I am not a hug fan of the look of the Detroits.
Hey I was just looking at the exact wheels, even asked the dealer to price them for me.
If you go to the german VW site you can actually look at them on a mk5, no mk6 picture, and they look pretty nice I think.
team_v
15-01-2010, 10:40 AM
Look very similar to the HSV E1 wheels.
Much better than the detrioits i think but there are some nice oem vw/audi alternatives.
Mk6 GTI
15-01-2010, 10:53 AM
Look very similar to the HSV E1 wheels.
Much better than the detrioits i think but there are some nice oem vw/audi alternatives.
Really?? I think the latest detroits look great! I like the addition of the black painted insides :))
team_v
15-01-2010, 11:03 AM
Really?? I think the latest detroits look great! I like the addition of the black painted insides :))
They just look too similar to the mk5 for me to appreciate.
If they looked like the advanti concept's i would maybe consider them:
http://wheelworx.com.au/stock_wheels/Advanti/advanti_new/advanti_concept.jpg
http://www.rays-msc.com/wheels/img/DOLCE-OTTIMO-MB.jpg
Corey_R
15-01-2010, 12:11 PM
I've ordered my 2010 GTI with the 18" Detroits but only because it was a good deal to get the 18" rubber. Pretty sure I want different OEM rims as I am not a hug fan of the look of the Detroits.
The wheels are a $1200 option. You then have stamp duty, and possibly LCT on top of that. So it's really not that great a deal.
It's about $200 more (minimum depending on your cars applicable taxes) than it'd cost you to purchase the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric from tirerack.com (including shipping), and the Goodyear is a better tyre than the Conti or Bridgestone that you'd get on the Detroits.
Plus... tirerack.com have a great selection of genuine branded wheels which can be around a similar price to the 'copies' available in Australia. So you could get the tyres you want, fitted to the wheels you want, and save much more than ordering your 18" Detroit option and then getting different wheels locally....
The only caveat to that, is you may find someone that would like the Detroits and is willing to buy them without the rubber and therefore come out in front that way
Glennb
15-01-2010, 01:17 PM
The wheels are a $1200 option. You then have stamp duty, and possibly LCT on top of that. So it's really not that great a deal.
Are you talking about the Visions or the Detroits? I was told that the 18" Visions are a ~$760 Each option (not including rubber). So depending on tyres, you are looking at an extra $4k to have them put on over the base price.
Definetly better value to get something after market or from Tirerack.
Corey_R
15-01-2010, 01:35 PM
@Glennb - if you look at my post, I quoted the OP who said he had ordered the Detroits. So obviously I was talking about the Detroits being $1200.
But yes, you're correct, either way you look at it, you're best to get from tirerack if you're not interested in the Detroits :)
Slightly off topic but related, Tirerack have the F1 Asymmetric 18" at the moment for around US$190 a corner.
Corey_R
15-01-2010, 02:02 PM
Actually it's only US$180 to be exact for the 225/40 R18 suitable for the GTI 18" Detroits, or US$135 for the 225/45 R17 for the standard 17" wheels. Shipping may cost around $250, but you still come out so far ahead any deal you can get in Australia :)
STV4SYT
15-01-2010, 03:02 PM
I haven't seen them on a mk6 but i did see them yesterday on 2 new MY10 EOS special editions up at south yarra. they caught my eye straight away and I had to go have a closer look at them.
If u want a pic i can grab one later on.
Corey_R
15-01-2010, 03:19 PM
I haven't seen them on a mk6 but i did see them yesterday on 2 new MY10 EOS special editions up at south yarra.
Yeah, they are the standard rims on the Eos White Night (http://www.volkswagengroupaustralia.com.au/EosWhiteNight/) special edition. Looks pretty cool. Those the wheels remind me of some old Holden rims.
I haven't seen them on a mk6 but i did see them yesterday on 2 new MY10 EOS special editions up at south yarra. they caught my eye straight away and I had to go have a closer look at them.
If u want a pic i can grab one later on.
Yeah a pic would be good. :google:
STV4SYT
15-01-2010, 06:10 PM
OK, excuse the darkness, car was parked in a shadow.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/01/vision2-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/01/vision1-1.jpg
They look pretty nice, thanks for the pics, not the Vision though they're called Budapest, very close and probably a bit nicer, but I think there exclusive to the model
Based on the Oct 2009 price list I got from my dealer the 18" Visions are 602.10 each. I ordered my car with the std 17" and will probably swap with the 17" Visions at around $510 each (if I don't see anything better in the meantime).
mattyf83
15-01-2010, 08:05 PM
They look more aftermarket than OEM IMO.
& aftermarket as in wheels you would see on a dropped Civic with a body kit. I like the 18 detroits much better.
Mk6 GTI
16-01-2010, 08:52 AM
They look more aftermarket than OEM IMO.
& aftermarket as in wheels you would see on a dropped Civic with a body kit. I like the 18 detroits much better.
Definitely! The detroits look great.. And more genuine. Class!
cjcoupe
16-01-2010, 09:08 AM
I was hoping to factory upgrade to visions. If I'm willing to wait, is that not possible at a cheaper price than doing it dealer fitted, since they are 18s like the detroits (therefore not too much more than 1.3k?). Or are they a more expensive wheel? Love how the black in them will look good on a white GTI!
Any OEM wheel fitted during build will be cheaper then having it done in Aus. No need to wait just make it part of your order if thats what you're after.
Corey_R
16-01-2010, 10:08 AM
I was hoping to factory upgrade to visions. If I'm willing to wait, is that not possible at a cheaper price than doing it dealer fitted, since they are 18s like the detroits (therefore not too much more than 1.3k?). Or are they a more expensive wheel? Love how the black in them will look good on a white GTI!
I don't believe that the vision wheels are a factory option. There is an entire range of dealer fit accessories which the factory just can't put on for you!
cjcoupe
16-01-2010, 10:15 AM
I don't believe that the vision wheels are a factory option. There is an entire range of dealer fit accessories which the factory just can't put on for you!
Even if the wheel is in the GTI brochure? It is under the VW Genuine Accessories section but so is the MDI and that can be ordered with the car. 18 Inch Visions would be too expensive to be viable if factory fitted after purchase. It would make the Detroit upgrade a bargain...
Corey_R
16-01-2010, 05:03 PM
'Accessories' mean dealer fit. 'Options' mean factory fit. The MDI can be both factory (option) or dealer (accessory) fit, although the installation location is different - factory in centre console, dealer in glove box.
Hope that helps :)
cjcoupe
16-01-2010, 05:17 PM
Thanks for that. So say i ordered the Golf with the standard 17s and I asked the dealer to dealer fit 18inch visions on it before delivery, will they minus the cost of the 17s when paying for it or will I have an extra set of 17s and would therefore have to sell them after delivery?
elisiX
16-01-2010, 05:46 PM
I'd say that will only happen if you ordered the car with the Vision's.
What will the dealer do with left over 17" standard GTI wheels?
G-rig
16-01-2010, 06:00 PM
They look more aftermarket than OEM IMO.
& aftermarket as in wheels you would see on a dropped Civic with a body kit. I like the 18 detroits much better.
Yeah i agree but have seen the 18"charleston's (from a Jetta) on a GTI which look pretty good.
18" Detroits look much better than the 17" version and suit the car.
Those new wheel styles with black on alternate spokes etc look a bit nasty and cheap.
What will the dealer do with left over 17" standard GTI wheels?
They could sell them, not sure what else they'd do
Would still be better if the money came off the other accessories/post factory upgrades instead of selling them second hand, although it's pretty easy to sell wheels and/or tyres that are in good condition.
wilsona
18-01-2010, 10:05 AM
I tried to order the Visions or any other wheel apart from Detroit in the 18" format in my factory order, however every dealer I spoke with said it was not possible, OEM wheels are a dealer fitted option only, which is a real shame. Best deal I could get was $2000 changeover for the 18" Detroits for 18" Visions. The Vision rims are listed at around $650 ea so its not much of a deal and I may try and sell the 18" Detroits privately should I go ahead and make the switch. I'll see what it looks like when it arrives, so far nearly all the Mk VI GTI's I have see on the road have 17" rims fitted which make the car look so lame.
I've even looked on UK sites to see if there is anything else interesting around, the US website mentioned in previous threads looks the most likely at this stage.
G-rig
18-01-2010, 10:08 AM
I would just sell the 17" denvers plus tyres while they are fairly new and get some 18" Huff replicas. You can usually get $1000 for the stock wheels and tyres which would go towards the new ones.
Buying OEM from the dealer doesn't work out financially but would be nice to order the Detroits from the factory if possible.
$2k change over for the 18" or 17" if that's the price with 18s their having a laugh aren't they what a rip they'd onsell the 18s as new to someone else for that much so the Visions would have made them over $4k.
Yeah I have stock 17s as I took from the lot and I haven't seen many mk6s out and about so can't comment. There are a few pics on mk6.com from the US some look okay others aren't my cup of tea but it gives some ideas otherwise it's just tireracks garage for a look at different wheels sadly.
elisiX
18-01-2010, 10:43 AM
I would just sell the 17" denvers plus tyres while they are fairly new and get some 18" Huff replicas. You can usually get $1000 for the stock wheels and tyres which would go towards the new ones.
Buying OEM from the dealer doesn't work out financially but would be nice to order the Detroits from the factory if possible.
I don't think you will get $1000 for the stock 17" wheels - regardless of rubber fitted. (I personally think they're worth that and more but I don't see it happening)
18" Detroit's are a $1200 option when buying the car and I imagine some of those will come up for sale. I think getting $1000 for those will be lucky let alone the 17" wheels.
G-rig
18-01-2010, 12:13 PM
I don't think you will get $1000 for the stock 17" wheels - regardless of rubber fitted. (I personally think they're worth that and more but I don't see it happening)
mate you would be surprised how many people scratch up their denvers and also how many GTI's are out there. Plenty of people on MK5 have bought them. Also helps mk6 owners get rid of them being the same wheels.
I also sold my stock 18" r32 wheels with rubber for $1500.
elisiX
18-01-2010, 01:03 PM
You are probably right - I have not got a lot of experience with the GTI wheels (ie how they sold second hand with the MKV).
I know that both myself and many other member on ozaudi struggled to sell OEM Audi wheels that were brand new.
xblode
18-01-2010, 01:06 PM
I got 1K for my 17" Denvers, a week after I bought the car.
Corey_R
18-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Yeah, as G-rig has said, if you have the patience to sell the wheels individually, you'll have no issues selling them, given enough time, to people who need to replace a wheel which they've hit a gutter with :)
Mk6 GTI
18-01-2010, 01:18 PM
Hi All,
just a quick question, in my contract it has factory option for most of the options except for the 18inch detroits and the bluetooth. I know bluetooth is dealer fitted but why does it not say factory opttion against the detroits?
cheers!
Christopher
18-01-2010, 01:24 PM
Hi All,
just a quick question, in my contract it has factory option for most of the options except for the 18inch detroits and the bluetooth. I know bluetooth is dealer fitted but why does it not say factory opttion against the detroits?
cheers!
That is a bit strange... My 18s are listed under Factory Options on my contract...
Definitly check with your dealer and confirm that he did infact remember to select that option for you...
G-rig
18-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Yeah, as G-rig has said, if you have the patience to sell the wheels individually, you'll have no issues selling them, given enough time, to people who need to replace a wheel which they've hit a gutter with :)
I didn't say individually, although some people do sell pairs of OEM wheels/tyres.
Corey_R
18-01-2010, 02:47 PM
Oh... It's pretty rare for someone to have scratched ALL FOUR of their wheels though isn't it? You'd wonder why someone would bother replacing them all if they were THAT bad a driver!
Over on GolfMKV I've seen several people offload their Denver 17" wheels individually to other MKV owners who have scratched/damaged a single wheel.
But it's all much of a muchness - you'll have no problems selling them, either as a set (even to 118TSI owners etc) or individually :)
wilsona
19-01-2010, 08:04 PM
Yeah my 18" Detroits were a factory option.
G-rig
19-01-2010, 08:32 PM
Oh... It's pretty rare for someone to have scratched ALL FOUR of their wheels though isn't it? You'd wonder why someone would bother replacing them all if they were THAT bad a driver!
Over on GolfMKV I've seen several people offload their Denver 17" wheels individually to other MKV owners who have scratched/damaged a single wheel.
But it's all much of a muchness - you'll have no problems selling them, either as a set (even to 118TSI owners etc) or individually :)
Don't forget some MK5's are 05 & 06 models or people have their missus driving so the get scratched up over time. Nice to be able to get a clean set and still much cheaper than VW spart parts.
I reckon everyone should order 18" Detroits as it doesn't seem to work out money wise adding them later (ie Dealer fit) and could always sell them in a heart beat.
Okay to get slightly back on track, I emailed my dealers parts area for prices on OEM wheels namely te Vision, Charselton and Black Motorsports (all 18s)
the response made the read it twice:
Vision - $757.63 ea plus a required arch kit for $300 plus $50 for a limiter (anyone know whath the means?)
Charlseton - $1027.35 ea
Motorsport black - $932.70 ea
Now I knew they'd be pricey as they're OEM wheels but holy crap that's a lot!
Looks like non OEM wheels for me when I upgrade.
elisiX
21-01-2010, 10:04 AM
lol those prices are just silly.
Good BBS wheels wont cost anywhere near that much ($350-500 USD a corner)
technopato
18-02-2010, 07:34 PM
Does anyone have any pics of actual GTI's fitted with the black and silver Vision 18" rims shown on the Australian VAG GTI brochure?
http://www.volkswagen.com.au/etc/medialib/vwcms/virtualmaster/en_au/new_cars/golf/pricing___specifications.Par.0028.File.pdf/78516_golf_gti_brochure.pdf
I've ordered my 2010 GTI with the 18" Detroits but only because it was a good deal to get the 18" rubber. Pretty sure I want different OEM rims as I am not a hug fan of the look of the Detroits.
Hey Wilsona, would you be interested in selling your 18" Detroits at all? If so please let me know, would definately be interested.
technopato
18-02-2010, 07:36 PM
Does anyone have any pics of actual GTI's fitted with the black and silver Vision 18" rims shown on the Australian VAG GTI brochure?
http://www.volkswagen.com.au/etc/medialib/vwcms/virtualmaster/en_au/new_cars/golf/pricing___specifications.Par.0028.File.pdf/78516_golf_gti_brochure.pdf
I've ordered my 2010 GTI with the 18" Detroits but only because it was a good deal to get the 18" rubber. Pretty sure I want different OEM rims as I am not a hug fan of the look of the Detroits.
Hey Wilsona, would you be interested in selling your 18" Detroits at all? If so please let me know, would definately be interested.
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