How to retrofit RVC ( reverse camera) in tiguan + Fiscon Basic plus + Kufatec IMA

[borbor1313]

Hello.This is my guide for retrofitting a RVC (reversing camera) and Fiscon basic plus bluetooth option and Kufatec IMA into a Volkswagen Tiguan. This was initially posted on mytiguan.com and the thread is called "picture of reversing camera - as need to retrofit". This thread also has additional information regarding the various methods and options for retrofitting different type of rvc's.It is in no way exhaustive but contains useful information other than what is described below.

As usual this is only what I have done.Any modifications you do to your own car are entirely at your own risk






.Anyone that finds this helpful feel free to thank me :banana:.Any better shortcuts or suggestions are most welcome just add them to this thread.

The most frustrating part is taking off the panels which no one has ever produced a guide for the tiguan so here is my version. A panel removal tool would help but I didnt have one.Dont need one in the end so save yourself $30.

remove the uppermost trim first
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next on the botton of the tailgate
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Back to the upper trim you have just removed
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Now removed the side trim-only need to do one side,i chose left but either is ok
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removal of licence plate light
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Install new Touareg camera
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Wiring
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[borbor1313]

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The guidewire -thin gauge but stiff metal wire for fencing or equivalent
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Remember I had to replace the faulty wiring hence the video and power wires are different now
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Once you have fed it throught the rubber tube,you must then feed it back down into the roof lining.Doing this in 2 parts is necessary.Feed a second guide wire as shown forwards and up out of the hole,then attach the first guide wire and pull back so fisrt guide wire comes out from under roof lining.
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[borbor1313]

final tidy up - no need to remove panels inside the car unless you are nuts or have OCD.
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Removal of rear left boot panel
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This step is optional , desirable but entails buying another tool :?
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Only clipped in so be gentle
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Looking inside/behind the panel
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[borbor1313]

Wiring up Power to Camera.
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Running video lead to head unit
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The Kufatec IMA is required to gain video input in RNS510
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In this photo please note the wires connecting to the can bus.I have unwound them to make attaching them easier.It has taken me 9months to discover that this can cause inconsistency in how stable/reliable the RVC operates. The Can HIgh and the can LOW wires should be wound as closely together as possible to maintain signal integrity. You have been warned :)

[borbor1313]

Reconnect all the wiring and enjoy .

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This bit is for FISCON BLUETOOTH UNIT that I installed at the same time
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I hope everyone has found this helpful. Personally it has been a very enjoyable exercise.It has taken alot of time and research to complete this and is really there for those of us who like to tinker.For any new car buyers reading this,I think I am still undecided on wether I would still pay the additional A$3500 for the rns51- rvc optional package or follow the path that I have taken.Non tinkers pay the $3500. Tinkers save yourself over $1700

For me the balance sheet reads

ebay rns510 A$1550
kufatec ima/rvc interface us$180
ebay toureg camera A$100
DSE (Dck smith) wire taps A$5
electric tape A$5

Comparing apples with apples though ,the OEM controller cost about$1000 for reversing lines in the camera so ultimately savings in actually only $900.

For me I had a dispute with the ebay seller of the RNS510 and paypal refunded me $1400 so now i have a fully working RNS510 for $150 but thats another story

OK thats it.

[Sanman]

great guide!
I'm still waiting for my Toureg Camera from Oskar, I think he may have gone bottom up.
Did your Ebay RNS-510 come with Australian maps or did you have to load them up yourself?
How much was the bluetooth kit? Did you buy this locally? Did you have to recode the car using a VAGCom unit?

[Arctra]

Brilliant post! Thanks very much for taking the time to document it and post it here. We've been waiting for a guide like this for a while now :banana:

[ope126]

Fantastic How To mate!

BTW; I was unable to get my Boost Pressure to work on my Fiscon all the other extras work though...

I used the Fiscon supplied microphone in the OEM position in the overhead console and it works brilliantly. No issues with voice clarity etc. Might be woth a try for you also.
I will give it that complete OEM fit and feel.
Not 100% keen on the placement of your mic though.
But each to there own.

Still, might be worth a try to move to the overhead console.

[borbor1313]

great guide!
I'm still waiting for my Toureg Camera from Oskar, I think he may have gone bottom up.
Did your Ebay RNS-510 come with Australian maps or did you have to load them up yourself?
How much was the bluetooth kit? Did you buy this locally? Did you have to recode the car using a VAGCom unit?

He is still active the w6050 thread so definitely in business.Remember to ask for a NTSC camera if using the Kufatec kit otherwise he will send you a PAL camera to Australia.

The bluetooth kit was ordered from Kufatec USA which is also the same as Oem.plus.and yes you have to recode using VCDS.

[G-rig]

Nice guide and write up. I also like the mic located in the factory overhead location.

Have you considered upgrading the RNS-510 to the new firmware as you'll get full screen for the reversing screen and transparent menus.

More info here:
http://www.my-gti.com/1233/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-version-2660-2662-2664-2666-2668-new-features

[borbor1313]

Fantastic How To mate!

BTW; I was unable to get my Boost Pressure to work on my Fiscon all the other extras work though...

I used the Fiscon supplied microphone in the OEM position in the overhead console and it works brilliantly. No issues with voice clarity etc. Might be woth a try for you also.
I will give it that complete OEM fit and feel.
Not 100% keen on the placement of your mic though.
But each to there own.

Still, might be worth a try to move to the overhead console.


The fiscon kit should work as I have no issues and it will show the boost pressure.Only trick is there are seven data readings to show but only room for 4 in the DIS ,so using up arrow right hand buttons of MFSW will show you the battery voltage,boost pressure,boost bar and down arrow will display the litres left in the tank and estimated rpm in the bottom 2 position in the DIS.

I really really wanted to install into the OEM position and Fiscon have a guide for this and how to install the microphone correctly by removing the housing and fitting the microphone through a piece of high density foam/rubber which sits into the square recess behind the perforated section in the overhead console.

For other readers the Fiscon kit comes with 3 microphone bases,1 adhesive small flat base which I use,there is also a small clip on to mount to ??upper A pillar and a large clip on to mount to ??sun visor.

Having said that I am very happy with the sound quality from my position and I don't think it is noticable at all.

The bit that I didn't like was running the wire up the A pillar.As is stated in my guide it is important to replace all the attachemnt clips with new clips and especially the main anchor clip which is the uppermost most clip with special release mechanism. Maybe one day I will do this but at present I didn't want to stuff up the airbag operation.Obviously easy enough to do but I will wait until a guide for the tiguan is released....HINT,HINT.:rolleyes:

Please post the part number/numbers for the replacement clips if you have these as I and others will want these someday

Thanks everyone for the Kind words of support.


g-rig
With regards to upgrading the rns510 to 26XX firmware it is important to understand that this is only a Beta release and although alot of people have no problems I think it is 50/50 , with 50 percent having GPS positioning problems , the source of which has not been identified. As I have a ebay unit I definitely will not be upgrading.I guess I could crack open the unit and look at the motherboard to see if the eprom has been soldered onto but way too much hassle in my opinion.
Voice control is nice,SDHC I can live without,don't really see why it is better than DVDRW,does anyone really have more than 18gigs of MP3s??,faster nav -its already super fast , clock display on screen when off - really useless. Not enough to risk bricking my unit for me at least.
If I had a factory installed unit then I would wait until the offical release and get the service department to do it.

[G-rig]

g-rig
With regards to upgrading the rns510 to 26XX firmware it is important to understand that this is only a Beta release and although alot of people have no problems I think it is 50/50 , with 50 percent having GPS positioning problems , the source of which has not been identified. As I have a ebay unit I definitely will not be upgrading.I guess I could crack open the unit and look at the motherboard to see if the eprom has been soldered onto but way too much hassle in my opinion.
Voice control is nice,SDHC I can live without,don't really see why it is better than DVDRW,does anyone really have more than 18gigs of MP3s??,faster nav -its already super fast , clock display on screen when off - really useless. Not enough to risk bricking my unit for me at least.
If I had a factory installed unit then I would wait until the offical release and get the service department to do it.

Sounds like you've given it a good deal of thought and kind of agree - if it's not broken don't fix it :cool:. It was a chance I took and seems ok but can't hurt waiting for a proper release as you say. I don't need most of the extra features either, and mainly listen to apple lossless on the MDI & iPod cable.

[borbor1313]

great guide!
I'm still waiting for my Toureg Camera from Oskar, I think he may have gone bottom up.
Did your Ebay RNS-510 come with Australian maps or did you have to load them up yourself?
How much was the bluetooth kit? Did you buy this locally? Did you have to recode the car using a VAGCom unit?

Sorry forgot to answer all your questions earlier
Fiscon was $700 from USA
With maps I went to the dealer who graciously let me load them. I do not have my own copy but also manually loaded speed cameras as POIS using vcard format via vwlabs website ,in SA there aren't that many so doing it manually was ok.Better way of couse is to use poi inspector to load as pois and burn a new map disc if you have the original map disc . PM me if you want to know how to do it manually

[team_v]

Just a heads up guys.
The Touareg reverse camera is on ebay for $50 + $18 postage:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Special-Car-Rear-View-Backup-Camera-For-TOUAREG-PORSCHE_W0QQitemZ390087235071QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad302d5ff

[Sanman]

Just a heads up guys.
The Touareg reverse camera is on ebay for $50 + $18 postage:
Thanks for that - even better Rob from (EDIT) http://members.optusnet.com.au/auspacks has them (PAL) for about that price and he's local.
Only found that out after I ordered a Toureg camera from Oskar.

[team_v]

Thanks for that - even better Rob from Austpac has them (PAL) for about that price and he's local.
Only found that out after I ordered a Toureg camera from Oskar.

Got a website or anything for them?

I can't find anything on google.

[Arctra]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/auspacks/

[DieselTig]

I have asked the same question in another thread but can an aftermarket camera be connected the same way to the RCD510?

[borbor1313]

I have asked the same question in another thread but can an aftermarket camera be connected the same way to the RCD510?

yes maybe, see Mavericks site my-gti.com.He has the pinout diagram which suggests you can connect a video input ,not sure about auto switching on reverse though as no one has tried it so far.As the rcd510 can auto display the reverse parkers it should be do able.Alot of people waiting in the wings for this.

[G-rig]

We retro fitted a Kauftec Rear View Camera to a 147 Kw Tiguan with RNS 510 Satellite Navigation. Doesnt work. If the car has factory fitted rear sensors, as the 147 Kw does, or Park Assist, then there is a conflict between both systems.

The installers told us there is no fix for this, so we are left with a very useless camera installed on a very expensive car! :confused:

Are you able to get hold of a genuine adapter that would be installed if you ordered the camera option from the factory, is there such a thing?

The kufatec adapters are fairly buggy and dont always work when reverse is selected, as i tried one out for a while with the RNS-510. Better off getting the OEM stuff as per Mav's MK6 GTI Badge Camera install (haven't got around to it myself yet).

[Sanman]

Ok - slightly off-topic - I have my camera installed now with my AVC9000-1. I was thinking it would be much more useful having it as a dashboard mounted camera looking forward, as the US police have on those TV shows.
The RNS-510, AVC9000-1 and similar all have provision for HDD or SD storage. To record would just be a software function addition, as far as I see it.
All you really want is about 5 or 10 min buffer. Get a road-rager (as I did the other day), stop the recording, and email it to the Road Traffic Authority - or if involved in a traffic accident, it could make solving the dispute simple.

[Guy_H]

We retro fitted a Kauftec Rear View Camera to a 147 Kw Tiguan with RNS 510 Satellite Navigation. Doesnt work. If the car has factory fitted rear sensors, as the 147 Kw does, or Park Assist, then there is a conflict between both systems.

The installers told us there is no fix for this, so we are left with a very useless camera installed on a very expensive car! :confused:

We have overcome this problem, unfortunately we need to vehicle in Brisbane to carry out the modifications for the retrofit. It is a long known problem of the clash between OPC (Optical park) and Camera retrofits

[147TSI]

We have overcome this problem, unfortunately we need to vehicle in Brisbane to carry out the modifications for the retrofit. It is a long known problem of the clash between OPC (Optical park) and Camera retrofits

Hi!
I need advice.

I ordered my Tiguan with Factory Sat Nav and MDI. Picked it up. 2 weeks later found out that I do not have factory Sat Nav (it was installed by dealer) and no MDI.
When I asked dealer they said they sourced car as best they could and gave me one with Park Assist instead!

They say they can retrofit MDI and a reversing camera BUT I will loose the Park Assist feature (where the car parks itself). I have 2 questions:
1. Will the reto fit MDI be in the centre console same as factory fit
2. Can the camera be fitted without losing my Optical Park Sensors or Park Assist and will it have same functionality as factory fit.

Would appreciate any help, feel a bit dudded, but love the car

Thanks

[G-rig]

I assume the dealer would normally retro fit the MDI into the glove box, which is where i installed mine. Not too fussed and the glove box gets some aircon which would help if the ipod gets hot etc but wouldn't mind it in the arm rest either (dont really put much in there anyway but depends which you prefer).

The dealer told someone on Golfmk5 that you cannot run the RVC & Park Assist together ... one or the other regarding the radio display. Park sensors still beep, but you either have the RVC or the computer based silhouette.

So you may be better to just go for one item, rather than both.

It would be good having the auto dipping side mirror (posible with the reverse parking sensors) but not sure I'd personally spend $1400 on park assist.

[147TSI]

Hi G - rig,

Prefer to have MDI in centre console as it would be difficult to access my iphone in the glovebox.

Park assist is a neat feature, just sit there and operate the brake and the car parks itself. Shame to loose it if I have a RVC installed.

Thanks for your response.

[Sanman]

Hi G - rig,

Prefer to have MDI in centre console as it would be difficult to access my iphone in the glovebox.

Park assist is a neat feature, just sit there and operate the brake and the car parks itself. Shame to loose it if I have a RVC installed.

Thanks for your response.
Dealer fitted MDI goes in the glovebox, maybe you can convince them to pull all the trim down to retrofit it in the centre console. Personally, I don;t see much difference. Neither would have you, if they hadn't forgotten to fit it.
Mirror dip on reverse is settable with a CANTool, its not a normal function available, and I think it would be more confusing than helpful.
The latest version of the RNS-510 software (which I think is beta) allows the reverse sensors to be overlayed on the RVC picture. As noted above, there is a software limitation. Talk to Guy (above) to get the detail, and a fix, possibly. He may even be able to arrange a console fit MDI.
Park Assist is a great party trick. Usually I forget to turn the while thing on in time, and park the normal way. But if I paid for it I'd want it to work

[Tedhaggie]

After a long wait Finally have received and installed the FIscon bluetooth, upgraded my FW to 2720 from 0900 . Now my Rns510 has bluetooth voice activation and phone control. Daisy chained the Fiscon mic thru the RNS510 mic in/out for the voice control

(Believe that the FW upgrade also fixes the compatibilty of the reverse camera (at least the OEM one) and the ODS from the parking sensors)

Comments the EMFA displays the Correct speed not the inflated speedo value.

the boost pressure display toggles 5 different different values. units including 0 & off- control by the up arrow on the MF steering wheel
THe remaining fuel display can be toggled to display temperatiure - control the down arrows on the MF wheel

My only compaint would be that "Auto gainl control??" on the RNs 510 MIC input causes some distortion of voice commands

[Sharkie]

Team_v, when its back (and you have your car), happy to get together to do the fitment. I got a RVC during the week (as well as SatNav) so want to fit mine as well.

Figure the 2 of us working together can get it done better than 1 on his own.

[team_v]

Sounds like a good idea mate.
2 hands are better than 1.

Just need to get the picture guide (since i don't want to f&#k my brand new interior) and then when the car arrives (late may) should be good to meet up and get the camera's installed.

[borbor1313]

OK Ive upload the photos to flickr and the links are all working again. Ive added a note about can high and low wires in RED in the body of the guide that you should be aware of.

For all those of you that require a signal wire off the reverse lights (in case you have another IMA other than kufatec or a non RNS510 screen) the reverse light wires are in the right side back small hatch (at least for a RHD car). open the hatch and down the bottom you will see 3 wires that go down into the floor of this small area.Negative is brown.The other two wires are both positive ( one for each reverse light). You can use wiretaps to tap into either of the two positive wires.

[clip]

They say they can retrofit MDI and a reversing camera BUT I will loose the Park Assist feature (where the car parks itself). I have 2 questions:

2. Can the camera be fitted without losing my Optical Park Sensors or Park Assist and will it have same functionality as factory fit.
Yes, that makes no sense to me. Why would fitting a reversing camera make you lose your optical sensors and hence, park assist? I have non OEM satnav, with RVC fitted AND park assist. It all works brilliantly.

Find someone that hasn't got their hand on it would be my advise.

[team_v]

OK Ive upload the photos to flickr and the links are all working again. Ive added a note about can high and low wires in RED in the body of the guide that you should be aware of.

For all those of you that require a signal wire off the reverse lights (in case you have another IMA other than kufatec or a non RNS510 screen) the reverse light wires are in the right side back small hatch (at least for a RHD car). open the hatch and down the bottom you will see 3 wires that go down into the floor of this small area.Negative is brown.The other two wires are both positive ( one for each reverse light). You can use wiretaps to tap into either of the two positive wires.

Thanks for uploading them again mate.
Really appreciate it.
I have them saved into a word document which will be made into a pdf incase they dissapear again.

I thought that running a signal from the reverse lights would throw a fault code due to the extra draw of power required.
I will have to source some wiretaps to tinker my RVC setup and hopefully i can get it to work off the reverse light wires.

Does your stereo still play music when the reverse camera is on?

[entice]

Guys,

Interesting Post.

I have a Kufatec Fiscon bluetooth unit, and have just retrofitted an RNS510 to the car.

The car was delivered with OPC and RVC. Obviously, I have lost my RVC for teh moment until I can get a VagCom and tinker away (I think it's module 57?)
I've also not got the turn by turn directions in the WHITE MFD, but again, I think it's a coding thing. Funny thing is, I have retained my steering wHeel controls which seems odd given what I have read of others' experiences. Before I go pulling apart half the roof lining trim at the rear, IS there also such a thing as a compass on our Aus delivered models that I need to unplug??
If anyone can help with what I should be looking for in correcting the above, it would be greatly appreciated.

Further, I was also wondering how you guys access the extra info on the MFD, like boost Litres etc etc. I can't seem to get that on mine (again, I have the Kufatec Basic plus Fiscon BT unit).
Also, regarding getting voice control on the RNS, using the Fiscon unit, is there a patch harness I can get that will provide the same Mic feed to the RNS for Voice activation? or is there a different mic I need to look into?

Thanks so much again,

[borbor1313]

Thanks for uploading them again mate.
Really appreciate it.
I have them saved into a word document which will be made into a pdf incase they dissapear again.

I thought that running a signal from the reverse lights would throw a fault code due to the extra draw of power required.
I will have to source some wiretaps to tinker my RVC setup and hopefully i can get it to work off the reverse light wires.

Does your stereo still play music when the reverse camera is on?


With a non Kufatec system music will stop when RVC is engaged.If your system requires a reverse signal to operate (Kufatec detects this through the canbus so this is not needed) there will be no fault codes from the reverse lights as the current draw is too small as it is only sending a signal to the control module.This only applies to the signal wire. If you draw a bigger current such as trying to power a reverse camera itself then it will send a fault code i'm pretty sure.

Some people do have issues with the compass but i have not disconnected it and do not have any issues at all.So i wouldn't do this unless you run into trouble. The MFD plus option should just be at the bottom of your list when you have selected Kufatec in your MFD screens.
With regard to the MIC look on mav's My-gti site.You can run your Kufatec mic to the rns first then on link it to the bluetooth module or you can wire a seperate OEM mic to the RNS and leave the kufatec mic connected to the bluetooth module.

[entice]

Thnks for that. will have to look atthe rear of an RNS to see what sort of mic to purchase.

Re the Kufatec menu. I dont think that comes up on my screen. will have to check and maybe "select update" in the menu??

[borbor1313]

Thnks for that. will have to look atthe rear of an RNS to see what sort of mic to purchase.

Re the Kufatec menu. I dont think that comes up on my screen. will have to check and maybe "select update" in the menu??



Whoops,i just read the instructions. Apparently works only if you have the RED DIS/MFD. I suggest you contact kufatec to see if there is a update.

[entice]

yep, shall do. Just checked again and no joy....

[team_v]

With a non Kufatec system music will stop when RVC is engaged.If your system requires a reverse signal to operate (Kufatec detects this through the canbus so this is not needed) there will be no fault codes from the reverse lights as the current draw is too small as it is only sending a signal to the control module.This only applies to the signal wire. If you draw a bigger current such as trying to power a reverse camera itself then it will send a fault code i'm pretty sure.


Thanks for the info mate.
I am going non-kufatek so i will need to wire up the signal to the reverse wires.
Considering powering the system off the rear 12V outlet however i have concenrs that it could cause battery drainage if it's powered that way.

Does the 12V outlet require the car to be on to receive power?
Couldn't you just hook the RVC/light to the same power source the original licence plate light was powered by?

Sorry for all the questions.
Don't want to ruin a $37k car though.

[NZTiguan]

If you put a relay in the reversing light wires and use it to switch the power on and off from the 12v outlet or any other direct power source the Tig's "brain" wont know it's there. That's what I did with my front fogs when I retrofitted them and it worked a treat.

Cheers

[team_v]

If you put a relay in the reversing light wires and use it to switch the power on and off from the 12v outlet or any other direct power source the Tig's "brain" wont know it's there. That's what I did with my front fogs when I retrofitted them and it worked a treat.

Cheers

I read about the relay idea from your fog-light install.
the only problem is that i am not electrically minded in any way and hence would have to take it to someone to get it sorted.

It was the only alternative though if the rear 12v outlet draws power all the time and causes battery drain.
Thanks for the input, will consider it as an option.

[NZTiguan]

I read about the relay idea from your fog-light install.
the only problem is that i am not electrically minded in any way and hence would have to take it to someone to get it sorted.

It was the only alternative though if the rear 12v outlet draws power all the time and causes battery drain.
Thanks for the input, will consider it as an option.

I'm the same with electrical stuff but the relay is pretty simple. Basically it's just a switch that switches "another circuit" on and off when the main circuit switches on and off. So, in this case, when the reversing lights switch "on" the relay switches "on" the power from the 12v circuit to whatever you've got attached to it. They're really simple and quite cheap but because it's only a "switch" it doesn't cause additional drain on the main circuit so the Tig's brain doesn't notice anything going on !!

Hope that makes some sort of sense.

Cheers

[borbor1313]

Thanks for the info mate.
I am going non-kufatek so i will need to wire up the signal to the reverse wires.
Considering powering the system off the rear 12V outlet however i have concenrs that it could cause battery drainage if it's powered that way.

Does the 12V outlet require the car to be on to receive power?
Couldn't you just hook the RVC/light to the same power source the original licence plate light was powered by?

Sorry for all the questions.
Don't want to ruin a $37k car though.


The camera is always on when you are driving.You can link it to your control module as a video input instead or in addition to the RVC input if your control module has that option and if you want a chase view ( but too distracting so don't do it).
The rear 12v socket is a switched 12v source.
When the ignition is off there is NO power to the 12v plug so no power drain.
SIMPLE.No battery drain either then.Dont need a relay either.

There is no point taking power off licence plate light unless you plan to drive with your lights permanently on otherwise you will have no power to the camera.
The licence plate lights do NOT have bulb failure detection circuits so you can draw power from them if you still wish

[team_v]

Thanks for all the info guys.
I will have a go at the 12v power source when the car arrives in 3 weeks.

If it casues problems i will go the relay route as Derek pointed out.

[Tedhaggie]

The camera I fiited to my Caddy came with a wiring harness that included a relay/filter, the power source wire went to the back of the head unit with the signal cable. and i picked up the 12v feed to the head unit. the control signal was picked up from the reversing light circuit. the earth was was connected to an earth point at the rear of the vehicle

[borbor1313]

Probably not the right thread but not worth starting a new thread.

DIY av input. a really tight fit to fit 3 female rca connectors onto the small plate.Still enough room to close the glove box when connected to male plugs as well
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/05/4590976318_527ee1011e_o-1.jpg


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