VWG Oz still considering the Scirocco

[ricksterrr]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/drive/motor-news/volkswagen-scirocco-could-return-20090923-g2ba.html

But focusing on the launch of the Golf GTI and GTD first...

[Grover]

Good... like many, this is my preferred next car although the all wheel drive Golf R might have to do if this doesn't work out. By the time it gets here (if at all), it will be almost obsolete... :(

[gregozedobe]

By the time it gets here (if at all), it will be almost obsolete... :(

You mean like the Golf GTI Pirelli ? :rolleyes:

IIRC they had all been been made nearly 9 months before they first started to actually hand them over to paying customers, and they are still selling them now, some months after the Golf Mk 6 came onto the Oz market. They must have been sitting in a holding yard for ages while VWA got their act together and finally started to sell them.

[neil]

Just read the Drive article about it and VWA are worried about it taking
sales from the GTI, so they think they might just import the more expensive R model,
so people cant afford it and have to buy the GTI.
Great thinking VWA

[cme2c]

VWA have been blowing hot and cold on the Scirocco since it was a gleam in the designer's eye. In England Sciroccos are cheaper than the equivalent Golf. You wait. Next year it will be "We might bring it out after the Golf R" then it will be "The Mk VII Golf is coming out." Meanwhile, by NOT ruling it out, VWA stops RAWS workshops from importing Sciroccos. :mad:

[The_Hawk]

It would be a hard choice between the Scirroco and the MkVI R for me.

[Treza360]

AWD wins out every time in my opinion.

[team_v]

AWD wins out every time in my opinion.

I would tend to agree but the scirocco just oozes visual appeal, while the R20 just looks like a golf VI with centred exhaust and biger air intakes.

[Golf Mark 6]

Is it true that you can buy the Scirocco in NZ? If so could you import one?

[OEM G60]

Yes it is.

Not unless you live there for a minimum of 12 months owning the car.

[swingn]

Hopefully the Scirocco does comes out here... I think I would buy one on looks alone!!! :D

[balkanac]

Id buy one if it was awd. I like grip :)

[Mrk_Mickey]

One thing has always gotten to me when thinking about their excuse for not bringing the 'rocco here...

If it's going to affect the sales of the golf, so what?? it's a VW, if they sell in place of the GTI they're still selling...

Surely the demand for these is huge. If they were worried about it selling as a cheaper alternative then put the price up lol...just give us the damn rocco!

[Umai Naa!!]

I'd say we'll get them one way or another.

[Sharkie]

Id buy one if it was awd. I like grip :)

Absolutely agreed !!!! ..... and 5 seats .... :cool:

FWD means I have no interest other than the fact I think it is stunning to look at.

[kingwang]

Its not coming to aus i can feel it

[Umai Naa!!]

Give it 4 months ;)

[cme2c]

Give it 4 months ;)

You mean just in time to cruel Renault's Megane RS250? I'll still only believe it when I see a Scirocco with NSW plates on it. And I am aware that you may know more than most.....:bowdown:

[shogun2]

Give it 4 months ;)

Just in time to NOT be elligible for the 50% Govt inveestment allowance ...

[Umai Naa!!]

I'm hearing you, mate.

[evorobin]

R model pricing in the UK.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&t=766803&nmt=RE:

[Lima]

Maybe the Scirocco is coming after all?

Volkswagen Scirocco gains specialist import approval (http://www.ausmotive.com/2009/12/24/volkswagen-scirocco-gains-specialist-import-approval.html)

[OEM G60]

Thats interesting, wonder who has applied for it and if they're willing to pay for RAWS approval? Can be quite an expensive excersise if the government want to do crash tests etc.... Will have to keep an eye on it.

I also wonder who much 'they' will sell them for and if people will be prepared to pay a premium for one, bearing in mind the Golf GTI and Scirocco TSI are the same price overseas, i wonder how much more the Scirocco will be worth by the time it is in Australia and road worthy etc, surely around another $10000?

[Umai Naa!!]

I've just fired off an email to find out who it was, as I had mentioned the idea of bringing the Scirocco in a few months back to a prominent importer. Conveniently, they were already making preparations to get them approved and priced up, and were just running the clock out so to speak, to get the whole thing rubber-stamped.

As I said a page or so back, either way, they're coming! :D

[squirrel]

The bloke who applied for the type approval through SEVS is a mate of mine. He runs a company called Avicco - http://www.avicco.com/

We were looking at bringing in the first one and then my wife decided that the $50-$60k would be better spent on renovating the house (damn I hate it when the reality train pulls in).

I seem to remember him saying the only hurdle left before getting one shipped in is whether or not it needs to have a side impact test.

[OEM G60]

Oh that sounds interesting.

So would the crash/side impact test have to be done in Australia?

[Lima]

The bloke who applied for the type approval through SEVS is a mate of mine. He runs a company called Avicco - http://www.avicco.com/

We were looking at bringing in the first one and then my wife decided that the $50-$60k would be better spent on renovating the house (damn I hate it when the reality train pulls in).

I seem to remember him saying the only hurdle left before getting one shipped in is whether or not it needs to have a side impact test.

Yeah, he left a comment on AUSmotive. I sent him an email asking for more info, but he hasn't replied as yet.

[Umai Naa!!]

The reply I got was not a positive one. The guy I've been speaking to, seems to think VW may put a spanner in the works before the prvate shops get a chance to get any over here.

[G-rig]

The MK7's will be out before the Scirocco ever makes it over, but hopefully VWA bring it in. Private imports may work out too expensive if the company want to make too much on each one.

Another thing to consider would be the wait for parts and insurance if you crashed one. I know it would share a lot of parts with the GTI etc, but things like body panels would be a long wait from Germany (i waited 12 weeks for an E30 rear quarter panel once).

[Umai Naa!!]

I don't think that would be the case. Given that NZ gets Sciroccos, you'll probably find that the Singapore parts facility already has ample stock.

[G-rig]

I don't think that would be the case. Given that NZ gets Sciroccos, you'll probably find that the Singapore parts facility already has ample stock.

Yeah, I suppose most parts come from Sydney, Singapore or Germany anyway.

Knowing the price of stuff in AUS I could imagine it being a money grab and costing more than the GTI anyway, so may not be worth it.

[OEM G60]

Yeah the parts would come from either Singapore or Germany, i recently had a windscreen sent over from Germany, took under 4 weeks.

But like you say G-rig, you'd have to be pretty keen on Sciroccos to want one over here, i could imagine the price of a new TSI being close to the price of an R20 Golf by the time it arrived.

[Umai Naa!!]

I'm still waiting to hear back about the prices. They're based on UK prices, so who knows how it'll all end up.

[G-rig]

But like you say G-rig, you'd have to be pretty keen on Sciroccos to want one over here, i could imagine the price of a new TSI being close to the price of an R20 Golf by the time it arrived.

That's true but i think the Scirocco R and Golf R should be priced the same as they almost look the same in the video i saw, mostly identical from the front but AWD may be better than the 'rocco's style.

[OEM G60]

You mean if VW if brought them in themselves they'd be priced around the same don't you?

I was trying to say that if they were imported by a company under SEVS, then the Rocco TSI would be almost as expensive as an Aus delivered Golf R20.

It does seem a shame that the Rocco R isn't gonna be AWD though.

[G-rig]

All this crap is being hyped up a lot, kind of over it. The scirocco as stock has a wide butt but would look good with some staggered wheels on it.

If it's going to be too expensive i'd rather a second hand 135i any day (or new/demo for that matter).

[OEM G60]

I'd rather have your R32 tbh!! With the money saved i'd be putting a decent Turbo set up on it, it would kick ass!!

[G-rig]

I'd rather have your R32 tbh!! With the money saved i'd be putting a decent Turbo set up on it, it would kick ass!!

Yeah, i'd like to do something like that in the future and wouldn't be any more expensive than changing cars, plus I'd have to do all the other mods again.

The Golf R is getting quite over hyped as well, just because it's taking forever to be released here but IMO will be the same as the GTI but with AWD. Not really the same icon that the MK5 R32 and GTI are.

[Qikas]

Car Magazine in the UK reviewed the Scirroco R in Dec 09 and said the following "You might already have your heart set on the Golf R, which comes out later, but consider this: the Golf is four-wheel-drive - therefore heavier and, by the development team's own admission, less agile - and barely more powerful yet a little pricier too. So advantage Scirroco I'd say".

In their race track comparison, the Ford Focus RS did 1.40.9, Scirroco R 141.25, Mazda 3 MPS 142.0 and new VW Golf GTI 142.85.

[GHW]

I was told a couple of weeks back by a Dealer that the decision was made and the Scirrocco will NOT be imported into Aus due to a clash with the 3 door GTi.
Bollocks VW Aus, if this is the case, you have got it completely wrong !
In much the same way that an R36 buyer is not a CC buyer, the Scirrocco is a vastly sexier car than the stubbier, more "upright" looking 3 door Gti (good in it's own right but not as sleek as the Scirrocco styling).
I saw one in Amalfi, Italy back in October 2008. White with 19" rims and a huge sticker up each side with "Der Neu Volkswagen Scirrocco", black (and I mean black) tinted windows and the photos do no justice to just how awesome this car looks in the flesh. Comments about it's "big butt" are simply wrong, the proportions and styling are brilliant, it's low, wide and agressive, damn shame that the beancounters here can't see it's a different buyer or just bring in the GTi in 5 door only and the Scirrocco...oh well.

[limmy]

agree completely. photos of the scirocco dont do it justice. quite frankly, when i saw pics i was like..."meh" looks ok.

but in real life, its a different story. spotted a couple of 2.0Ts in uk in december on road and in showroom...and wow. my heartrate increased to 140bpm. just imagine what the R would do...

[V6Passat]

I was told a couple of weeks back by a Dealer that the decision was made and the Scirrocco will NOT be imported into Aus due to a clash with the 3 door GTi.
Bollocks VW Aus, if this is the case, you have got it completely wrong !
In much the same way that an R36 buyer is not a CC buyer, the Scirrocco is a vastly sexier car than the stubbier, more "upright" looking 3 door Gti (good in it's own right but not as sleek as the Scirrocco styling).
I saw one in Amalfi, Italy back in October 2008. White with 19" rims and a huge sticker up each side with "Der Neu Volkswagen Scirrocco", black (and I mean black) tinted windows and the photos do no justice to just how awesome this car looks in the flesh. Comments about it's "big butt" are simply wrong, the proportions and styling are brilliant, it's low, wide and agressive, damn shame that the beancounters here can't see it's a different buyer or just bring in the GTi in 5 door only and the Scirrocco...oh well.

do you have any photos? Would be awesome to look at it...

[GHW]

Sorry, we'd just unpacked and walked down to a concert on the foreshore empty handed. I was so freaked out about actually making it there alive after the crazy crazy drive there I didn't have my bl**dy camera with me DOH !
By the photos I was referring to the web photos, not mine because I was too stupid to take any...

[tentacles1]

A couple for sale in NZ on 19s. Was a black one on 20s for sale not long ago but appears to be gone now.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Volkswagen/Scirocco/auction-259851954.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Volkswagen/Scirocco/auction-273896271.htm

[G-rig]

Be nice if VWA stopped ****ing around and told us what we can expect in terms of Scirocco, Golf R 3dr & Polo GTI 3dr. Too many different reports

[Paul_OH]

agree completely. photos of the scirocco dont do it justice. quite frankly, when i saw pics i was like..."meh" looks ok.

but in real life, its a different story.

I totally agree, saw a few in Germany in January and if they sold them here I'd be lining up!

[V6Passat]

Sorry, we'd just unpacked and walked down to a concert on the foreshore empty handed. I was so freaked out about actually making it there alive after the crazy crazy drive there I didn't have my bl**dy camera with me DOH !
By the photos I was referring to the web photos, not mine because I was too stupid to take any...

no worries...truth be told i am sure there have been plenty of occasions when we should all have had a camera with us!

[V6Passat]

A couple for sale in NZ on 19s. Was a black one on 20s for sale not long ago but appears to be gone now.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Volkswagen/Scirocco/auction-259851954.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Volkswagen/Scirocco/auction-273896271.htm

ok, i want one!!!

[Buller_Scott]

that second one is damn nice.

with skinnier/ higher side/rear/ front skirts you could really drop that very nicely.

seems like eliminating the arch gap would put those skirts right into the asphalt.

[Lima]

Expect some more news on THIS STORY (http://www.ausmotive.com/2009/12/24/volkswagen-scirocco-gains-specialist-import-approval.html) soon.

:banana:

[phaeton]

Spill Liam :eek:

[G-rig]

Yes, tell us Liam!