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dubsweeper
02-09-2009, 06:30 PM
ok its only come to my attention that all the vw drivers who are wanting to sell there mk1 , basically they cant afford to run them or cant be assed and then want to sell them at stupid prices in conditions that are ridiculous,

i know i might sound a bit forward but the section for sales is getting a bit out of the standerd where enthusiests want to pass on there cars to others , but for more money !!!
if you cant afford it dont buy it and dont CASH IN :(

any comments !!!

Golf Loon
02-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Perhaps all Mk1 owners want to sell because thay have realized thare are a lot of more modern cars for the same money that are nicer to drive. Also they probably want big money as they have thrown money into a Mk1 money pit, often modifying it a way that doesnt appeal to everyone.

The one that annoys me are the ones who post it at some unrealistic price, use the stupid BUMP feature every day and then feel aggrieved that it doesnt sell in a week.

Good Mk1s are worth nothing and are not selling.

I got offered $5k for my Genuine GTI today and decided that I`d rather keep it.

Spyda
02-09-2009, 06:52 PM
WORD.

There are a few that i think shouldnt be over a couple of grand but the people are asking more than twise that.

I guess people are just charging you for the "mods" regardless that the car is rubish.

dubsweeper
02-09-2009, 09:00 PM
thats true a genuine mk1 will carry the right price, but with mods ect...it cant really justify when people have to to carry them over inspections for road use through the transport department .

Cos most of the time they will have to rectify the mods to go back to stock in some cases , i see that there is a few good mk1 here and are genuine and have been well kept and restored, still so many parts out there to get hold off
and the work and time that gets carried out will determin the overall sale of a good mk1.....

WABIT
02-09-2009, 09:48 PM
ive got a rule, if you dont like the price, dont buy it, dont even look at it, dont even post up that it seems to expensicive, if its not your car, its not your problem, its the owner's problem if it sells or not......

not having a go at ya, but expressing what additude i have towards these things

dom

dubai gti
02-09-2009, 10:03 PM
agree with most of you...mine could have been cheaper, but there was a certain Melbourne j*wish guy, no names.... who owned a metallic blue English import Cabby back in the '80's (i knew his gorgeous sister, who drove a white Uk import Ford Escort (read Laser) cab also) and it was always parked at the front door of Chasers in 1986 , when all i had was my $600 Harbour Blue Bug., as a broke RMIT student......i always loved the look of the small bumper Mk 1 Cabby, so there u have it :cool:

dubsweeper
02-09-2009, 10:08 PM
ive got a rule, if you dont like the price, dont buy it, dont even look at it, dont even post up that it seems to expensicive, if its not your car, its not your problem, its the owner's problem if it sells or not......

not having a go at ya, but expressing what additude i have towards these things

dom

i think we all have an attidude about these things ! but just talkin about the small percentage of peps using this vw site as a fast way to put there car online !!
Its great to see all types of watercooled cars for sale regardless of price but there comes a line of what is the value .... and these days who has the money ?

static1800
02-09-2009, 10:15 PM
A car is always worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

greasykitchen
02-09-2009, 10:46 PM
A car is always worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

True, but it seems that most people aren't willing to pay much, or at least different people have varying ideas of what they should be willing to pay.

dubsweeper
02-09-2009, 10:56 PM
True, but it seems that most people aren't willing to pay much, or at least different people have varying ideas of what they should be willing to pay.

thats true as long as they know what to do and finish there project , but not pass other projects down the road ,
but yes people out there will pay anything they want if they want it

DubSteve
02-09-2009, 11:00 PM
I have put my car for an amount that I think is good, hell insurance would give me more but whatever!

If you don't like it well don't say anything easy!

scoob02
02-09-2009, 11:14 PM
What do people think an original (no mods) rust free 3dr Mk1 is worth?

I was thinking around $3500 tops??

dubsweeper
02-09-2009, 11:18 PM
I have put my car for an amount that I think is good, hell insurance would give me more but whatever!

If you don't like it well don't say anything easy!

i can see the mk1s like your own and golfloons ect,..
i had a mk1 myself 2 actually and sold mine last year to a fella from a mine site , i held it for him for two weeks and sold it for 1800 diamonds with aftermarket parts ect... lol i lost so it seems .....im a good sammy :P

WABIT
03-09-2009, 01:21 AM
id pay over 5k for a mint OG mk1 2door and im not saying this to back anything i previously said, i paid 4k for my yellow 4door in OG shape, the previous owner paid 8k for it 6 months before! thats proof right there....

dom

velly_16v_cab
03-09-2009, 07:18 AM
A car is always worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

hit the nail on the head!!!

you can put a mk1 up for sale for 9 or 10k.....will it sell???????


well, there maybe someone out there willing to pay that....it just may not happen over night.

we all want as much as we can when it comes to selling a car...i dont blame people for over pricing.

Me, i am still on uk prices....i wouldnt pay over 4k for a mk1...not matter how good they think it is...just not worth it IMO.

Peter Jones
03-09-2009, 08:09 AM
I've had 4 Mk 1s given to me for free. Kind of devalues them for me.

The last one even has an uncracked dashboard.

They're still a 30 year old car after all.

I think I actually prefer the well used cars to play with, I've never really held much desire for a low mileage, mint condition GTI. I can make a $500 GLS go faster and handle better for less investment.

Mind you if someone gave me a GTI............

Pete

Brisben
03-09-2009, 09:03 AM
Me, i am still on uk prices....i wouldnt pay over 4k for a mk1...not matter how good they think it is...just not worth it IMO.



I understand UK golfs are 2 a penny, but your in Oz now. So unless you import one or move back to the UK you have to pay what the market dictates.

With these being wanted by certain people, they are worth as people say 'what your willing to pay'

AT first I was a little shocked at the prices, but then considered what else can I buy for 4 K....Hmmmmm.

SO TBH I think now my opinion has changed a decent MK1 is worth a fair bit. GTI well anywhere between 6 and 8k. Thats not a lot of dollar for a car like that. I mean what you gonna buy instead, an old lancer or comoddore...

Not me mate...I would prefer to spend my money on a VW..

Each to their own I suppose.

evorobin
03-09-2009, 09:33 AM
Have a look on ebay if you want cheap. People on this site just won't part with cars for peanuts.

However with mk3's for $3.5K now the mk1 is for the enthusiast not a means to cheap transport imo

velly_16v_cab
03-09-2009, 11:26 AM
I understand UK golfs are 2 a penny, but your in Oz now. So unless you import one or move back to the UK you have to pay what the market dictates.

With these being wanted by certain people, they are worth as people say 'what your willing to pay'

AT first I was a little shocked at the prices, but then considered what else can I buy for 4 K....Hmmmmm.

SO TBH I think now my opinion has changed a decent MK1 is worth a fair bit. GTI well anywhere between 6 and 8k. Thats not a lot of dollar for a car like that. I mean what you gonna buy instead, an old lancer or comoddore...

Not me mate...I would prefer to spend my money on a VW..

Each to their own I suppose.

I agree we aint in the uk any more.... :banana:

still wont find me parting with 10k for a mk1 GTI

each to there own really,

Mika
03-09-2009, 11:43 AM
Personally, I think cars on an enthusiast's site are always going to be over priced compared to the general public market. I bought mine off here, and I probably paid more thant he car is worth, but I have the patience, tools and mates to get it all sorted out and on the road.

That said, Mk1's aren't exactly common cars over here. Other than the handful I see at the wreckers and the working ones at dubfest, I can recall seeing no more than 5 or so on the road in the last year (excluding cabbies).

evorobin
03-09-2009, 11:49 AM
They are rare here and when I was in the UK for a month there were NONE on the road excluding late model cabbies...

Can't believe dom paid $4K for that minter. Nice!

Jarred
03-09-2009, 11:53 AM
only worth what someone is willing to pay! and realistacally, most of them are 30 yo buckets with a few trick parts so on and so forth.

Just because you spend 3K on wheels and suspension, doesn't mean you've added 3K's of value to your car, nor can will it ever sell for the sum of it's parts, ask any modified car owner, that's just how it is.

Mrk_Mickey
03-09-2009, 12:09 PM
only worth what someone is willing to pay! and realistacally, most of them are 30 yo buckets with a few trick parts so on and so forth.

Just because you spend 3K on wheels and suspension, doesn't mean you've added 3K's of value to your car, nor can will it ever sell for the sum of it's parts, ask any modified car owner, that's just how it is.

That's exactly right, and sometimes I reckon people are a bit hopeful when they should just accept it.

Take my car for example...I picked it up for chips, I've spent more than the car's price on modifying and maintaining it, but am I going to sell it for double? No chance in hell. I've always thought that if I was going to sell my car I may as well take the time and effort to revert it to as stock as possible and sell off the modified parts because it will fetch more money on the whole.

dubai gti
03-09-2009, 12:28 PM
Just because you spend 3K on wheels and suspension, doesn't mean you've added 3K's of value to your car, nor can will it ever sell for the sum of it's parts, ask any modified car owner, that's just how it is.

if you choose the right car anything is possible, as per my case:

1. 1999 paid $7k for an immaculate almost 1 owner 280SE 3.5 V8 Mercedes 4 door.

2. basically only cleaned it up, drove it, 1/2 a door upper the only painting done except for the wheel arches, done in Killrust white.(also pulled an enclosed trailer to Byron Bay, when we moved up there)

3. Picked up 1st in Road Class Concours at ACT show 2002.

4. Sold in Feb.2006 for $14.5k - sight unseen to a 75 year old man in WA, only as it was sitting in the garage, as I was commuting to the Gold Coast daily in company cars, and old cars need to be driven!! :banana: (the $$ were in my account on a Tuesday, and TNT collected it 2 days later...he didn't see the car for another 3 weeks !!)

Did I make any $$ probably not, but it's the best classic I've ever owned and the most reliable (and thirsty too !!)

Brisben
03-09-2009, 12:36 PM
I always end up doing a car up, getting it how I want, then get boerd and sell it.

Normally I regret it somewhere down the track.

Oh the cars I have owned and wished I still did.

Still If you want a car bad enough its worth paying good money for it.

I get enjoyment from cars so don't mind paying over the odds if its what I really want.

I paid just under 6K for my cab, its far from perfect but I do love it, and for the money I don't think their is another car I would own and enjoy as much for the same dollar value.

DubSteve
03-09-2009, 12:47 PM
That's exactly right, and sometimes I reckon people are a bit hopeful when they should just accept it.

Take my car for example...I picked it up for chips, I've spent more than the car's price on modifying and maintaining it, but am I going to sell it for double? No chance in hell. I've always thought that if I was going to sell my car I may as well take the time and effort to revert it to as stock as possible and sell off the modified parts because it will fetch more money on the whole.

If your put your car up for so much and you think you can get it then so be it, ride it out and stick to your guns.

If you put your car price high and then expect to sell it within 1 week your dreaming and you know it.

I put my car up for $8000 and it seems a little high and I took everything into consideration but after all the momey I have spent keeping it to look as good as it is, I think its fair, if the car doesn't sell straight away I am not going to get ****ty or anything. If you think you can buy a car for peanuts and do it up and say holy shat its worth gazillions well good luck to you! A car is a car its a money pit, people think that they can get cars for nothing are dreaming. Mk1s are rare as I have seen one apart from our GTGs, and you can ask RayRay we almost crashed cause we were in a daze over a GLS 4 door with straight as chrome bumpers lol.

Jarred
03-09-2009, 01:02 PM
Very true Steve. Sometimes it's about who you know, not what you know, as well as sometimes being in the right place at the right time.

Like Pete said, he's got a couple mk 1's for free, sure they're 4 doors and "less desirable", but it's not as if they were complete buckets either. Both my latest mk 1's I picked up cheap, due to circumstance, but I payed a decent, infact pretty good (cheap) price for my 2 door, and I'd do it again, cause that car was worth it. (straight, rust free, and, it's what I was looking for)



I have no issue with people asking lots for thier mk 1's, it's not my place to say they're wrong or silly, just aslong as they know that' it probably wont sell like a hotcake! :P

greasykitchen
03-09-2009, 01:36 PM
only worth what someone is willing to pay! and realistacally, most of them are 30 yo buckets with a few trick parts so on and so forth.

Just because you spend 3K on wheels and suspension, doesn't mean you've added 3K's of value to your car, nor can will it ever sell for the sum of it's parts, ask any modified car owner, that's just how it is.

Agreed. If you spend $1000 on maintainence, repairs, mods, whatever, it won't increase the car's value by $1000. Some will pay more for an unmolested car (ie original condition), some only think a modded car is worth money.

With MK1s they're definitely getting more of an enthusists car, albeit a cult one. Most you see are the granny cars that have been babied all their life and now need new owners. I'd say many aren't daily drivers - the ones that were daily drivers from birth are now scrap due to rust, poor maintainence etc, so you don't see too many of those beaters on the road anymore. To see a MK1 is almost an event worth celebrating! (Robin, that's kind of what I trying to say last night!)

I paid $2900 for mine - it was almost immaculate condition, genuine low Kms etc. It seems a fair price in itself, but also because I could afford it, I really needed a new car, I loved it and it really isn't much for a car. And worth it cos it's so much fun to drive and has been so reliable. People seem to love it - including people I know who aren't into cars at all (ie just about everyone I know). Not sure if the previous owner thought he'd sell it so quickly and easily!

I'm not sure it's worth as much now, but the depreciation on it would be minimal (unlike most VWs except for air-cooled - you can pay $10,000 for a beetle that is older, smaller and less powerful than a MK1).

But there's obviously still some steals out there if you're lucky enough, know where to look and take a chance. But also some owners also know how much they mean to them so they're not willing to part with them for less than they think is a fair price.

My $2.85.....

AusScare
03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
I did up my mk2, then crashed it, now I'm hesitant to mod my current car after seeing the losses I incurred.

Also last time I put cheap coils on a daily driver, looks mad but worst thing ever for city driving.

edit: And for $10k my new car is so much better in so many ways, and only $4.5k more than the mk2, which I spent about $3k fixing up...

Jarred
03-09-2009, 04:07 PM
I did up my mk2, then crashed it, now I'm hesitant to mod my current car after seeing the losses I incurred.

Also last time I put cheap coils on a daily driver, looks mad but worst thing ever for city driving.

edit: And for $10k my new car is so much better in so many ways, and only $4.5k more than the mk2, which I spent about $3k fixing up...

Yea, that's cause it's a mk 2, mk 1's are better to start off with :P jokes.

i'm pretty sure all of us are aware that there are 'better' cars out there etc etc etc, but most of us drive mk 1's cause we want too, not because that's all we could afford.

And we deffo don't buy coils to be comfortable!

I also crashed my car after respraying and modding it and so on. I could have quit then and got a new 'better' car. but I didn't. I got a mk 1 cause I wanted one, cause I love driving one. simple. And I spent alot more than what I did on my first mk 1, on my 2nd mk 1.

mikinoz
03-09-2009, 04:26 PM
You don't need to spend big money if you don't want to.

I have a car that will never owe me a great deal and have fun putting about in it and making it mine with personal embelishments.

However, I have a fully restored car that was imported from overseas after being worked on by a great mechanic and will never see that back if I sold it - however I had the spare at the time an intend on keeping it so my kids know what the 60's were like to some degree.

Hell the most amusing part of all of this is a person buying a 90K car will have the depreciation of a mint MK1 in the space of under 12 months! ;)

Brisben
04-09-2009, 08:52 AM
Agreed my mate brought a V10 Toureg, cost over 150k, 18 months later, tried to trade it in got offered less than 80K:frown::P