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Mass
11-08-2009, 01:12 AM
Group Buy - Water Tanks

Just putting this out to you guys and gals.
Personally I'm sick of washing my car at public car washes (cant use my own shampoo,wax, have to rush, etc etc).
I'm willing to do all the running around,research and planning to source the best possible deal on say a 5000lt tank + pump + fittings and installation.
Now I'm wanting to hear from members that are serious and willing to get involved in this group buy. This should include members that are located within Melbourne and surrounding suburbs, and anyone outside or in country areas should be prepared to pay extra for delivery and install.

Let me know what you guys think and if I get a positive response and a decent number of applicants, then I'll start the process. :toast:

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Tim
11-08-2009, 01:24 AM
the Mrs and I are in the market for a water tank. If youre willing to do all the hard work for me then I dont mind! :P

Mass
11-08-2009, 01:25 AM
the Mrs and I are in the market for a water tank. If youre willing to do all the hard work for me then I dont mind! :P

cheers Tim, will count you in.

Manaz
11-08-2009, 07:11 AM
If you want something smaller, look for a water container called an IBC - roughly 1m x 1m x 1m, holds ~1000L, you can pick them up 2nd hand for anything from $100 on eBay.

I got my food grade one (as I store salt water in it for my marine fishtank) for $180 (paid more for the guarantee that it was safe).

They have a standard outlet on them (at the bottom of one face) that you can attach a hose and/or pump to), and a ~20cm opening on top (with a screwcap) for filling.

Mass
11-08-2009, 09:42 AM
If you want something smaller, look for a water container called an IBC - roughly 1m x 1m x 1m, holds ~1000L, you can pick them up 2nd hand for anything from $100 on eBay.

I got my food grade one (as I store salt water in it for my marine fishtank) for $180 (paid more for the guarantee that it was safe).

They have a standard outlet on them (at the bottom of one face) that you can attach a hose and/or pump to), and a ~20cm opening on top (with a screwcap) for filling.

Good to know Manaz, but 1000L wont cut it. I've got two cars that I need to keep clean, plus I would also like to plumb the tank to the toilets. With a couple of days of good rainfall, a 5000L would fill right up.

Manaz
11-08-2009, 10:23 AM
Good to know Manaz, but 1000L wont cut it. I've got two cars that I need to keep clean, plus I would also like to plumb the tank to the toilets. With a couple of days of good rainfall, a 5000L would fill right up.

Yeah, 1000L isn't a lot of water - with a booster pump and a pressure cleaner, it'd cope with car cleaning as long as it got regular top-ups.

I'm considering grabbing another IBC to fill from the waste water from my reverse osmosis water filter (it outputs 4 times as much waste as it does good water) - there's nothing wrong with the waste for watering the garden or washing a car, but it's no good for maintaining a healthy fish tank :)

Tim
11-08-2009, 10:44 AM
the problem with IBCs is theyre functional but ugly! The Mrs would never buy that as a permanent solution.

Im mostly interested in the water capture. Not too fussed about installation. I can organise that myself. Not overly worried about it being plumbed in either. I just need the tank and a spare day :)

Jarred
11-08-2009, 11:08 AM
I know my mum and dad were considering a tank, so I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how it goes.

Mass
11-08-2009, 11:11 AM
I know my mum and dad were considering a tank, so I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how it goes.

ok Jarred, check with your folks and register your interest here.
I need to get numbers so I can negotiate the best deal! cheers

Mass
11-08-2009, 11:14 AM
the problem with IBCs is theyre functional but ugly! The Mrs would never buy that as a permanent solution.

Im mostly interested in the water capture. Not too fussed about installation. I can organise that myself. Not overly worried about it being plumbed in either. I just need the tank and a spare day :)

we'll see what the general consensus is and maybe an option would be just to purchase and deliver the tanks and each individual can organize install.

Jarred
11-08-2009, 11:23 AM
do you have rough number (cost) yet? even if it's for parts & not installation (I could install it too)

Mass
11-08-2009, 11:47 AM
do you have rough number (cost) yet? even if it's for parts & not installation (I could install it too)

I'm basing this group buy on a 5000lt slimline + pump + delivery. The install will be up to the individual. No costings yet as I wont start doing any work on this until I have some definite numbers in order to negotiate the best price.
At this stage, I'm down for two tanks and maybe more (will talk to some friends of mine), and with Tim that makes three.

Mass
12-08-2009, 11:14 AM
any other members interested in this buy???

Mass
12-08-2009, 11:40 PM
A bit of an update guys.
Started working on this today and have my first round of quotations.
Initially I was keen to go for a single 5000lt tank, however after more research and speaking to a lot of people, I discovered this is not the best idea for the following reasons;
1. A one piece 5000lt slimline tank requires an in-ground concrete slab. This will add to extra expenses and more work to all concerned.
2. A one piece 5000lt slimline tank, can and could warp over time adding to instability and degradation. This is likely with both poly and steel.
3. A one piece 5000lt slimline is more expensive than say two 2500lt slimlines.

So the best I came up with so far is, 3 x 1670lt interconnected tanks which have the same footprint as a one piece 5000lt and can be supported with concrete pavers.
Package includes: 3 x 1670lt tanks interconnected with tap (24 colours to choose from), 1 x 600W ,50 litre per min pump, 1 x pump cover, special filter (much better and finer than standard leaf catcher), all tank fittings to downpipe, and local metro delivery.
Total:$1865.00

Now, I've spent a good two/three hours on this and spoke to a lot of people and sense that I wont find a better deal out there. That doesn't mean that I wont stop trying.
Any more interest regarding this group buy, please register asap.

cheers.

Tim
12-08-2009, 11:52 PM
do you have dimensions of the tanks? pics maybe?
I may be limited for space where I want to put mine. I live just up the road from tankworld. Maybe I should go have a chat to them.

Mass
13-08-2009, 09:24 AM
do you have dimensions of the tanks? pics maybe?
I may be limited for space where I want to put mine. I live just up the road from tankworld. Maybe I should go have a chat to them.

here you go Tim.
By all means, check with Tank World.
I've already spoken to them though, and their prices were above $2200.00

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu32/Pho5/thumb_Urban5000LModular.jpg

Capacity: 5000 litres

Height: 2100mm

Length: 3330mm

Width: 1050mm

Warranty: 10 years

Mass
18-08-2009, 02:49 PM
guys I would like to finalize this buy next week!
pls submit your interest.

cheers

Mass
22-08-2009, 12:25 AM
bump it up.

Tim
22-08-2009, 12:36 AM
im gonna have to bail on this one. I just did a job for a client today and by chance they sell water tanks. My services are worth a 2100L tank so im probly going to go down that path sorry.
Few hours of my time = free water tank is too good an offer to pass up

Mass
22-08-2009, 12:46 AM
im gonna have to bail on this one. I just did a job for a client today and by chance they sell water tanks. My services are worth a 2100L tank so im probly going to go down that path sorry.
Few hours of my time = free water tank is too good an offer to pass up

no probs. who is your client and can they do us a good deal for say three tanks?

Tim
22-08-2009, 12:49 AM
no probs. who is your client and can they do us a good deal for say three tanks?

Theyre a hardware store. So they dont really stock a lot. The 2100L unit is a round tank. about my height 175cm maybe 1.5m in diameter (didnt measure it, thats just a guess). I think the standard price is normally $599. They had pumps there for $350 but not sure of the quality.