Golf Mk6 - Prices and Dealer Negotiations

[chylld]

hi all,

i've collated all of the data in the main negotiations thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=27890) along with some helpful pm's to make a spreadsheet i'm sharing with everyone.

basically, if you're thinking of buying a mk6, you use the spreadsheet to spec the car up how you like it, tell it whether you have access to a corporate discount, and also the low/high value of your trade-in (i recommend drive's car valuation page (http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_value/)) and it will give you a range within which we'd consider a good deal.

in a nutshell, expect a 9-12% discount without corporate discount, 10-13% with. little things like floor mats and premium plates you should be able to negotiate in for free, and other stuff like window tint you're better off getting elsewhere anyway.

i hope this proves to be of use!

Moderator Edit by Corey_R

The original spreadsheet links have expired. Another member has posted the spreadsheet again on Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B76IGanV9f4IOTZmN2Y4N2YtMTZiMS00YmVlLTkxN GMtYjNiMzM4NGZiZjU4&hl=en&authkey=CPH8_ZAJ

Thank you to widjaya


Please note:
The "RRP" in the spreadsheet is the cost of the car, plus options, plus MADE UP onroad costs. Please note that it is in NO WAY ACCURATE, not even when it was produced. It may have been accurate for one of the cars on there (presumably the creater's purchaseed it). The calculation for stamp duty is based on the NSW formula only and is completely inaccurate for any other state. The dealer delivery is "conservatively high" for non-GTI/R models. The CTP is wrong, as is the registration (even for NSW). There is no accounting for LCT (not that it should be an issue with non-GTI/R models). There is no accounting for the cost of number plates!

So use as a rough guide only :)

[Spoddy]

not all of have the latest version of excel :duh::biggrin:

[Rufus]

Good Work!

[chylld]

not all of have the latest version of excel :duh::biggrin:

Uploaded a 97-2003 compatible version. Hope it's ok, let me know if there are problems :)

[PassatB6]

Well done mate! Could we make this a sticky?

[STV4SYT]

not all of have the latest version of excel :duh::biggrin:

You could always download the FREE compatibility pack that Microsoft brought out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displaylang=en

[guliver_twist]

Good Post!!
Would also be nice to add the AVG discount (instead of just best and worst)

Top effort

[chylld]

Good Post!!
Would also be nice to add the AVG discount (instead of just best and worst)

Top effort

Thanks!

It really depends on how you want to use it, which determines if an average is useful or not. My idea was that you start bargaining with the "Best" figure in mind, and if after negotiating you're still ahead of the "Worst" figure then you've still done pretty well.

That said I can still see how an average would be useful, so both sheets have been updated :mowlawn:

[KWICKS]

Nice spreadsheet, very organised and helpful for potential buyers.

[guliver_twist]

More than Helpful for potential buyers...
Even though I did well with negotiating my purchase it would have made the process soo much quicker if I had this info available at the time...
Great Work!

[chylld]

added cktsi's deal (no corp discount, 7.8%)

[guliver_twist]

Can someone please post if they used chylld's spreadsheet to negotiate their deal.. I am sure it would make him feel happy to see that his excellent work is bringing rewards to others.. :)

[x_rotary_rasp]

I sure did study the spreadsheet before I went into the dealership to negotiate a drive away price.

I started off with -15% and got knocked back :duh:. Sales rep made an offer the best discount he could give me was just -6%. I was about to walk away.

I was upfront with what I wanted to pay. Then, the Sales rep made an offer where it fell within the ballpark figure where I was willing to sign for a deal.

Just be patient. No need to rush. Work to within say 10% to 13% discount and you've done well.

Remember, there are more cars than buyers in a dealership showroom. :eek:

[sillygogo]

Great work, wish if found this earlier for the deal. hehehe, very fast update.

I got the corporate discount during negotiation, they asked me for a copy of the membership card, I didn't have it on me, I said will bring it in next time. However, they never asked for it again, I am a true member though :)

[chylld]

glad to hear guys :) which dealers did you go to? that information is the most useful for prospective buyers, after the prices of course hehe

[sillygogo]

Got mine in June from Highway Springwood with a 3 weeks wait for the delivery.

[chylld]

Got mine in June from Highway Springwood with a 3 weeks wait for the delivery.

ta, spreadsheet updated :)

[guliver_twist]

This thread should be promoted to a sticky!

[chylld]

PM'd a mod asking to make it a sticky :)

[chylld]

Updated with a new record: 17.1% discount for dopey on a 118TSI manual!

[PassatB6]

Bump Why isn't his thread a Sticky? Its about to fall off the front page

[jeloz]

Bump Why isn't his thread a Sticky? Its about to fall off the front page

good thread mate / question , what entitles anyone to a corporate discount with VW?

[sparta]

great job! Are the RRP's excluding on road costs (dealer delivery + stamp duty, etc...) or not? Sorry I haven't looked too closely at MK6 prices

[chylld]

great job! Are the RRP's excluding on road costs (dealer delivery + stamp duty, etc...) or not? Sorry I haven't looked too closely at MK6 prices

The on-road costs are added in the "ORC" column.

[chylld]

Just added another 2 deals for fairly basic models, still with strong discounts.

It has been a while since I have added a discount less than 11%, so it looks like dealers are a bit more flexible now with the car having been out for a while.

Great work everyone! :banana:

[chylld]

*bump* added some more deals.

oileoi - I didn't add your 118TSI deal since it sounds like you've settled on the 90TSI one?

[chylld]

The 17% discount was calculated the same as the others, i.e. with a $1995 dealer delivery charge. I chose this number as I'd seen this range from $995 to $3000; so I chose the (rather not ridiculous) average in that range.

We aren't cheapening the product; the deals shown in the spreadsheet exist because both buyer and seller have agreed to the price. It is the dealer that is giving us cars for these prices, so if you are concerned about the VW brand being tarnished I suggest you take it up with your local dealer?

[oileoi]

*bump* added some more deals.

oileoi - I didn't add your 118TSI deal since it sounds like you've settled on the 90TSI one?

That's correct at the moment Im going for the 90TSI but Im still considering the 118TSI it all depends if I can stretch my budget

[chylld]

updated with kingwang's deal.

and finally... I HAVE BOUGHT A CAR!!

unfortunately not a golf :( but oh well :)

[flat04]

Chylld, thank you so much for your time putting this spreadsheet together. I hope it will come in handy over the next couple of weeks.

Cheers,

Andrew

[flat04]

Just a quick suggestion Chylld, is it worth putting a purchase date on the spreadsheet as well? That way it would be easy to see a trend in pricing over time to give a nice guide of what a certain model should be worth now.

No problem if you don't have the time, the sheet is great.

Andrew

[chylld]

Just a quick suggestion Chylld, is it worth putting a purchase date on the spreadsheet as well? That way it would be easy to see a trend in pricing over time to give a nice guide of what a certain model should be worth now.

No problem if you don't have the time, the sheet is great.

Andrew

I would have done that, but a lot of the posts are made quite a bit after the actual purchase date, so the dates wouldn't have been accurate. People have already been generous enough to share their deals and I couldn't ask for more than that!

Suffice to say, the longer a model has been out the more flexibility the dealers should have.

Let us know how it goes for you!

[chylld]

seems we've been getting some outside interest in the spreadsheet!

http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=840491855&mode=linear#post840491855

[PassatB6]

Room for GTI as well?

[chylld]

Room for GTI as well?

Haha definitely :) I can't imagine the option pricing to be too different from the normal golf options...

Just someone give me a poke when official pricing info becomes available... My interest in golfs has waned considerably since I already bought a new car :)

[Mutley251]

Great spreadsheet! I was around the 11 / 12%, so I am happy I got a good price!

It would be great to have this topic on the front page?

[russ83]

Ordered my Golf last week, 118TSI, black, sports pack with leather. $36,300.

[Skoda Convert]

Hey guys,


Has anyone had much luck with the Golf 6 GTi discounts, i tried a few weeks ago to see what dealers would be flexible on and by how much but they were all sted fast 'take it or leave it' type thing.

Everyone was charging massive Delivery fee's, i think some Melb dealers were around an insane $3,995. I can't afford it at this becuase it's $3,000 of clear profit over and above neg and it's enough to price me out at the mo.

Can we get some figures added to the (almost) world famous spreadsheet:banana:

[Nath]

Hey guys,


Has anyone had much luck with the Golf 6 GTi discounts, i tried a few weeks ago to see what dealers would be flexible on and by how much but they were all sted fast 'take it or leave it' type thing.

Everyone was charging massive Delivery fee's, i think some Melb dealers were around an insane $3,995. I can't afford it at this becuase it's $3,000 of clear profit over and above neg and it's enough to price me out at the mo.

Can we get some figures added to the (almost) world famous spreadsheet:banana:

Hey yeah I managed a $5200ish discount (around 10%) off my red 5 dr GTI they gave me the Corp discount and waived the dealer delivery so there are discounts to be had. Good luck

[Kwoka]

I wonder why it cost 1k more to deliver a GTI than a normal Golf =S

[Skoda Convert]

Hey yeah I managed a $5200ish discount (around 10%) off my red 5 dr GTI they gave me the Corp discount and waived the dealer delivery so there are discounts to be had. Good luck

Nath, thats really good going!! I have made a few posts saying that we shouldn't actively trying to get every last drop out of a new car sale so even asking the question seems fairly hypocritical but i also do not condone being taken advantage of.

drive a Skoda at the mo but the GTi interior has come along way, mark 5 was a bit tacky.

I'll go on the hunt Nath, worst case scenario i will end up in an RS Octavia which in itself is not so bad as they are a really good GTi alternative. It would be good though to see this on the spreadsheet and to see whether yours is a one off or whether it can be reality for more of us.

Thanks for the info

[Nath]

I've added my purchase to the sheet, wasn't sure how to load it directly to the site so I used the file sharing site Chylld used originally.

http://www.4shared.com/file/151976673/4f88d848/golf_mk6_1_.html

Hope you don't mind Chylld.

I also added the Golf GTI in a 3 and 5 door column and changed the DD charges as mine were $2995.

Skoda, hopefully this will help.

[PassatB6]

New buyers may not be aware of this very useful spreadsheet. Are buyers still entering their deals?

[chylld]

I've added my purchase to the sheet, wasn't sure how to load it directly to the site so I used the file sharing site Chylld used originally. ... Hope you don't mind Chylld.

Not at all! I don't have much time to update the spreadsheet these days so any help is appreciated. Thank you for helping continue what I started, I've updated the original post to link to your file :P


New buyers may not be aware of this very useful spreadsheet. Are buyers still entering their deals?

I think we have quite a lot of deals in there already, my guess is the best deals have already come out and as people have trouble beating them, they don't feel the urge to share their info with the world (totally understandable.)

Just these few posts to bump the thread will help plenty!

[sideshow]

Hello

Thanks for all the great info in this thread and sharing your deals with everyone, I am having a hard time working out the spreadsheet and if the prices are 'drive away'.

Can someone who understands it better help me work out a RRP and ballpark figure for drive away on the following:

118TSI
Metallic paint
DSG
Sports pack (leather)
Sat Nav
Parking sensors

I am in Sydney, I really appreciate any help.

[Nath]

Hello

Thanks for all the great info in this thread and sharing your deals with everyone, I am having a hard time working out the spreadsheet and if the prices are 'drive away'.

Can someone who understands it better help me work out a RRP and ballpark figure for drive away on the following:

118TSI
Metallic paint
DSG
Sports pack (leather)
Sat Nav
Parking sensors

I am in Sydney, I really appreciate any help.

Sideshow, so according to the spreadsheet and assuming that parking sensors just means the reverse sensors and that Sat Nav doesnt include the Dynaudio, then the RRP of the above specs is $46,219 on the road in Sydney. Looking at other 118 purchases in the sheet the average discount has been around the 11% mark with varying specs, so if I were you I'd be aiming for a min discount of around 10%, but that all depends on your eligability for the corporate discount etc.

Good luck and let us know how you fare.

Nath

[sideshow]

Thanks for that.

I have a car I would like to trade in, its 1999 VTII Commodore and using the online calculators I should be happy with ~$4000 trade-in.

What is the sequence of events you would normally use?

1. Find out how much for the Trade-in
2. Go through what you want
3. Haggle / corp. discount eligibility (aiming for 10% off).
4. Free floor mats, tank of fuel, premium plates (what do people mean by premium plates?).

Probably obvious but this would be my first new car purchase and obviously I want the best deal possible.

[Nath]

Thanks for that.

I have a car I would like to trade in, its 1999 VTII Commodore and using the online calculators I should be happy with ~$4000 trade-in.

What is the sequence of events you would normally use?

1. Find out how much for the Trade-in
2. Go through what you want
3. Haggle / corp. discount eligibility (aiming for 10% off).
4. Free floor mats, tank of fuel, premium plates (what do people mean by premium plates?).

Probably obvious but this would be my first new car purchase and obviously I want the best deal possible.

Been a while since I traded a car in, but personally I'd ask for a trade in price after I'd done some haggling.

Best thing to do I think is to get in there go for a test drive and sit down with the salesman go over what you're after and then talk discounts, when I bought mine the dealer basically offered my $4.5K straight off the bat, and I haggles for another grand.

Premium plates are the black on white ones, there usually $80 once off payment, the Euro, which look heaps better, are around $400 from memory, have a look at the RTA site and theres a link to the plate site for more info.

If they dont give you a free tank of fuel then their not serious IMO, and as for mats, well they dont really cost the dealer anything so that shouldnt be a problem.

Price will also depend on if you go for something in stock, ie MY09, or order from build MY10. Long term you'll prob get a better resale on the MY10, but you should be able to negotiate more off a MY09.

I know the dealer where I bought my GTI had knocked $5K off all Golfs (except the GTI) for the advertised price as they are MY09, and you should be able to haggle that down some too.

[Flipper Dog]

Thanks for that.

I have a car I would like to trade in, its 1999 VTII Commodore and using the online calculators I should be happy with ~$4000 trade-in.

What is the sequence of events you would normally use?

1. Find out how much for the Trade-in
2. Go through what you want
3. Haggle / corp. discount eligibility (aiming for 10% off).
4. Free floor mats, tank of fuel, premium plates (what do people mean by premium plates?).

Probably obvious but this would be my first new car purchase and obviously I want the best deal possible.

You should be more than happy to get $4000 trade in on that vehicle...but don't like your changes.....see what the dealers say but you may be better getting rid of it elsewhere.

Follow steps 1, 2 and 3 and depending on what is in stock in the country you should have no problems aiming for 10% reduction in retail pricing.

Any dealer worth your sale will fill your tank and mats would cost them about $50 (dealer price). Premium plates can be found here:http://www.myplates.com.au/design_a_plate/plate_products.html

[Redman]

I have a car I would like to trade in, its 1999 VTII Commodore and using the online calculators I should be happy with ~$4000 trade-in.

Wow. I have a 2005 Commodore Lumina Wagon with 86k on the clock and was only offered $7k as a trade. This was from a VW ONLY dealer.
I ended up going to a dealer that has multiple franchises and was able to get double that :biggrin:

[sideshow]

Thanks for the help.

Looks like I will be selling privately :)

Does 'on road' = everything to take car home? CTP, rego, etc...

I think I like Euro plates more, can you ask the dealer to throw that in with the on road costs?

Thanks

[Nath]

Thanks for the help.

Looks like I will be selling privately :)

Does 'on road' = everything to take car home? CTP, rego, etc...

I think I like Euro plates more, can you ask the dealer to throw that in with the on road costs?

Thanks

Yeah on the road means everything except your insurance.

Euro do look nicer, but I couldnt justify the $400 bucks, no harm in asking the dealer to throw them in though... :)

[sideshow]

How are people paying for their Golfs?

I have a mortgage and don't want to pull the full amount out of it to buy the Golf...

Should I set something up through my bank or are the dealer financing packages a better option?

Or is it more of an individual thing and I have to shop around for myself?

Thanks again for all the help so far (dare I say the friendliest forum I have been on yet? :eek:)

[mattyf83]

How are people paying for their Golfs?

I have a mortgage and don't want to pull the full amount out of it to buy the Golf...

Should I set something up through my bank or are the dealer financing packages a better option?

Or is it more of an individual thing and I have to shop around for myself?

Thanks again for all the help so far (dare I say the friendliest forum I have been on yet? :eek:)

Banks will generally offer personal loans, which dont have residuals, therefore you will be financing the whole amount. Downside is higher repayments, upside is you will own the car at the end.

Dealers usually offer hire purchase, these have a residual, pros and cons reverse of above.

I would say most people forking out 40+ for a car would be leasing/hire purchase and changing cxars every 3-4 years.. If you want the car for 5+ years then a long personal loan period may be the way to go.

[Christopher]

Thanks for the spreadsheet... some good data in there.. Comparing deals that others got, seems like mine was pretty standard... With the corporate discount, total savings worked about at ~12%...

[Eclipze]

Visited a dealer today. They wouldn't give me a corporate discount, as I have to have at least 6 company cars before I reach the first tier for discounts.

After an MK6 GTI manual, 18" rims and MDI.
I added it up as:
GTI manual $40490
MDI $270
18" rims $1200
Dealer Delivery $990
Stamp duty $1692
Rego, $650
Total $41k

He started with $48k on road without the rims.

He put $2990 on for dealer delivery, which I cut him down to $990. Easy done.
Wanted $700 for metallic paint, however the red and white aren't listed as metallic... so held my ground, he gave in on that one.

He gave a figure of $45k. Offered $42k cash sign up right now, which he reluctantly accepts.

Comes back after seeking approval, and says he has to up the dealer delivery to $3990. I gave a big WTF, and he said he couldn't do the $990 and the $2990 is for the other Golfs, but the GTI has a higher price (which he couldn't justify). Best they would offer was $45k, and that was only on forward order (wait 3..5 months).

I thought $42k was a realistic price with the corporate discount and no additional bargaining. But they are offering $45k given a discount. Assistant manager stepped in before I left, but no dice :( So I walked.

I didn't think I was dreaming with my offer.

[sav]

Hi,
I had similar negotiating experiences.
The dealer delivery at 4 different dealers was - $3995, $3450, $2990 and $1600.
I was lucky enough to get corporate discount so went with the $1600 one.

2 dealers said it was their policy not to discount the GTI.

I also have to wait 3 months or so.

Ordered a Red GTI manual, only option is MDI.

Good luck with your search.

Sav.

[Glennb]

This is also something i've been thinking about with my quote.
I've got the corporate discount, but half of the discount is in the reduction of the Dealer delivery from 2995 to 995, and i was never going to pay that much DD in the first place. So the Corp discount only works out to ~4k for me on a $59k spec'd GTi.

So the real Corp discount is only worth ~7%??
Is this what others have found, or are the 10% + discounts in the spreadsheets based on a starting price that includes $2-3k of DD??

[Nath]

This is also something i've been thinking about with my quote.
I've got the corporate discount, but half of the discount is in the reduction of the Dealer delivery from 2995 to 995, and i was never going to pay that much DD in the first place. So the Corp discount only works out to ~4k for me on a $59k spec'd GTi.

So the real Corp discount is only worth ~7%??
Is this what others have found, or are the 10% + discounts in the spreadsheets based on a starting price that includes $2-3k of DD??

I think you'll find that they included the DD charges as part of the whole package, in fact the far right of the ss is the DD that gets added to the total RRP.

[Dave8878]

Hi guys I think I should try and clear up some of the Dealer delivery issues here. As standard dealer delivery should be about the $2,000 mark and any dealer charging$2,995 or $3,995 is being a bit cheeky as this is just inflating the RRP and then making it look like they are giving you a bigger discount - ie a $2,000 discount off a dealer delivery of $3,995 isn't really a discount at all!

If you are entitled to corporate discount then the standard dealer delivery is $995

Of course all these figures are up for negotiation but it should give you a good idea

Hope this helps and feel free to contact me with any questions

Kind Regards

David Crofton

[Christopher]

Eclipze: May i suggest trying Barloworld in Glen Waverley. They were pretty good in letting me get the corporate discount.
Given that I work at a bank (please don't hate me) and this was initially not on their "approved" list, he spoke to his manager and in the end all I needed to do was give them a business card of mine and all was sorted...

With mine, I got GTI manual 5dr w 18" rims, driveaway for $41k with a 3mth wait...

[Glennb]

Hi guys I think I should try and clear up some of the Dealer delivery issues here. As standard dealer delivery should be about the $2,000 mark and any dealer charging$2,995 or $3,995 is being a bit cheeky as this is just inflating the RRP and then making it look like they are giving you a bigger discount - ie a $2,000 discount off a dealer delivery of $3,995 isn't really a discount at all!

If you are entitled to corporate discount then the standard dealer delivery is $995

Of course all these figures are up for negotiation but it should give you a good idea

Hope this helps and feel free to contact me with any questions

Kind Regards

David Crofton

Thanks David, as that is what i was getting at too.
If a typical DD charge is between $990 to $2k, are the 10%+ discounts still achievable on these figures?
I'm still not sure if my GTi quote is reasonable or not because of the artificially inflated DD charge.

[Eclipze]

Eclipze: May i suggest trying Barloworld in Glen Waverley. They were pretty good in letting me get the corporate discount.
Given that I work at a bank (please don't hate me) and this was initially not on their "approved" list, he spoke to his manager and in the end all I needed to do was give them a business card of mine and all was sorted...

With mine, I got GTI manual 5dr w 18" rims, driveaway for $41k with a 3mth wait...

Thanks for the info Christopher, appreciated.
Glen Waverley isn't too far, I'II give them a call :-)

[sideshow]

I read on here that members of the ACS (Australian Computer Society) are eligible for VW corporate discount.

Can anyone confirm and if there are any membership category restrictions (ie - would a 'student' level member be eligible?)

Cheers

[Dave8878]

As long as you can prove membership you will be eligible

[nicandlance]

Thanks for the info Christopher, appreciated.
Glen Waverley isn't too far, I'II give them a call :-)

I was happy with Barloworld too! I got a 15% discount and $14,000 for my trade in. Also got mats and petrol.... $17,400 changeover all up for my 118 tsi with sport pack :P

[Eclipze]

Makes you wonder about the cost difference... membership cost for one year is likely to save a lot more on the purchase price of the car. :banana:

[Christopher]

I was happy with Barloworld too! I got a 15% discount and $14,000 for my trade in. Also got mats and petrol.... $17,400 changeover all up for my 118 tsi with sport pack :P

now that's a paddlin'. Good work on the savings!

[Eclipze]

Just struck a deal with Damion at Glen Waverley over the phone... going this afternoon to put the deposit down :cool:

:bowdown: Christopher

[Christopher]

Just struck a deal with Damion at Glen Waverley over the phone... going this afternoon to put the deposit down :cool:

:bowdown: Christopher

Great work... Congrats on the purchase. What can I say, this is what I do... lol..

What are specs? Same as above?

[Dave8878]

Thanks David, as that is what i was getting at too.
If a typical DD charge is between $990 to $2k, are the 10%+ discounts still achievable on these figures?
I'm still not sure if my GTi quote is reasonable or not because of the artificially inflated DD charge.

I just ran the figures on your purchase Glennb and the RRP with dealer delivery at $1,995 works out about $61,500

The deal you got of $55,000 is a very good deal and there is pretty much no margin in it so you should still be stoked!

Remember guys and gals it's the bottom line that counts not the percentage discount

Cheers

David Crofton

[Eclipze]

Great work... Congrats on the purchase. What can I say, this is what I do... lol..

What are specs? Same as above?

5 door GTI manual, 18", MDI and also the boot rubber liner, $42k.

Given there are no manuals with 18" rims available, it's delivery March. So I might also up the deal and get leather seats given the time to save the extra.

I'd prefer the leather, but I've just been unsure on the wear'n'tear and general durability of having it. I don't want something too precious that I'm afraid to dump on the shopping on it, or if the small zipper in the rear pocket of my pants is going to catch on it etc... Never had leather seats before, so NFI.

[Glennb]

I just ran the figures on your purchase Glennb and the RRP with dealer delivery at $1,995 works out about $61,500

The deal you got of $55,000 is a very good deal and there is pretty much no margin in it so you should still be stoked!

Remember guys and gals it's the bottom line that counts not the percentage discount

Cheers

David Crofton

Dave,
Thank you very much for your input as this has reassured me greatly.
I'll be ordering it early Jan in that case and look forward to being another GTi owner :banana:

[Dave8878]

No problem,

Good luck with the purchase

All the best

[Eclipze]

Results... Barloworld Glen Waverely, Red 5 door GTI manual, leather interior, 18" rims, MDI, boot rubber liner, delivery March $45k. Peter and Damion are the guys to talk to ;-)

[elisiX]

This is also something i've been thinking about with my quote.
I've got the corporate discount, but half of the discount is in the reduction of the Dealer delivery from 2995 to 995, and i was never going to pay that much DD in the first place. So the Corp discount only works out to ~4k for me on a $59k spec'd GTi.

So the real Corp discount is only worth ~7%??
Is this what others have found, or are the 10% + discounts in the spreadsheets based on a starting price that includes $2-3k of DD??

Glen I believe this is correct.

I settled on $57k for my GTI which is essentially full RRP less $1650 corporate and $2000 off the DD. Now I do not qualify for Corporate (my company isn't in their list and I am not part of the ACS as most who used corporate are). So he basically said that he would give me a discount equivalent to the corporate discount but no other discount in its place. In the end it worked out to be almost 7%. I wish I was entitled to the corporate discount as I would have more room to move. I'd have negotiated the price and then have corporate applied thereafter as it seems many others have done.

[Gav23]

Glen I believe this is correct.

I settled on $57k for my GTI which is essentially full RRP less $1650 corporate and $2000 off the DD. Now I do not qualify for Corporate (my company isn't in their list and I am not part of the ACS as most who used corporate are). So he basically said that he would give me a discount equivalent to the corporate discount but no other discount in its place. In the end it worked out to be almost 7%. I wish I was entitled to the corporate discount as I would have more room to move. I'd have negotiated the price and then have corporate applied thereafter as it seems many others have done.

Couldn't you have just gone through a car broker as they would be able to get the Corporate Discount, and then get them to negotiate the price down further?

[elisiX]

I am a retail buyer without any ties to the corporate discount. I essentially got the value of a corporate discount off the RRP with no further discount.

I believe some others have got a small discount from RRP + the corporate discount (ie a slightly better deal than I).

I am not aware of going through a broker entitles you to a corporate discount?

[Eclipze]

Based on the list of people buying from the thread...
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=31714

"Expect a 9-12% discount without corporate discount, 10-13% with."

Corporate discount only starts for companies with 6 or more cars in their fleet, so I just targeted 10% discount regardless of corporate discount or not. Didn't negotiate either, just called up... I want to buy this car with these options, if you can do the deal for $42k including on road costs I'II come down today and place an offer. He called back within 10 mins and said it's a deal.

He knew if he tried to bargain, I'd just call the next dealer. Just don't ask them if what price they can do, otherwise you enter into a negotiation and have to fight over where/what/why the costs are. If you do the sums and know what the vehicles RRP is, stamp duty and rego cost are, then you know what a bargain is. Corporate discount just seems like another name they use, which at the end of the day is irrelevant to us. Bottom line is getting a good price ;-)

[Nath]

I am a retail buyer without any ties to the corporate discount. I essentially got the value of a corporate discount off the RRP with no further discount.

I believe some others have got a small discount from RRP + the corporate discount (ie a slightly better deal than I).

I am not aware of going through a broker entitles you to a corporate discount?

Brokers would get fleet rates and may or may not be able to get the corporate labelled discount but from some of the posts here they can work some pretty awesome deals. But hey I was happy with my price and just did as you explained went in though knowing what it was worth so when in was offered a price I knew it was a good one.

[Coaster]

Are you able to add in a 77TDI column?

[goldcoast]

Hi Guys - im looking at getting a Golf 90tsi with a few options and wanted to know what price you think is a good one to ask for. (im in qld btw)

Base price $25990
Metallic Pt $700
Comfort Pk $2200
Sunroof $1900
MDI $270
------------------
$31060 + s/duty (3% in qld= $932)/dealer delivery($995)/onroads($680)

all up $33667

A broker got me a price of $33100 (which is crap) so i was gonna go direct to the dealer... i was thinking $30000-$31000? what do you think? or am i in fairy land?

Thanks in advance guys

[KWICKS]

$995 delivery seems cheap if you aren't a corporate customer, assumed because the discount is lower than 10%? Perhaps an extra $1000 discount in there for that you may have missed?

[goldcoast]

$995 delivery seems cheap if you aren't a corporate customer, assumed because the discount is lower than 10%? Perhaps an extra $1000 discount in there for that you may have missed?

I do have my own company and we have 5 cars between in our fleet. So i should be entitled to the corporate discount (i hope) hahah

[mkp]

Hi there,

Just found this marvellous thread and wondering if you could help.
I'm wanting to get a Golf 90TSI Trendline DSG with
- Metallic Paint
- MDI + Cable
- Comfort Package
- Tint
Been given price of $33,500 (drive away) with corporate discount.

What price do you think I can get? Based on the spreadsheet, it looks like it should be around $32,250 (olaf line 32)
I'm Planning to buy before end of year, so would appreciate your thoughts!

Bit confused, as I never did look at the 118TSI - what's the difference between that and 90TSI? Looks like based on (kingwang, line 14) for that price, I can get the 118TSI.. doesn't seem to make sense!

Thanks in advance for your comments!
MKP.

[sillygogo]

Hi Guys - im looking at getting a Golf 90tsi with a few options and wanted to know what price you think is a good one to ask for. (im in qld btw)

Base price $25990
Metallic Pt $700
Comfort Pk $2200
Sunroof $1900
MDI $270
------------------
$31060 + s/duty (3% in qld= $932)/dealer delivery($995)/onroads($680)

all up $33667

A broker got me a price of $33100 (which is crap) so i was gonna go direct to the dealer... i was thinking $30000-$31000? what do you think? or am i in fairy land?

Thanks in advance guys

Have you consider the 118Tsi? If your budget is $30k, then a

118TSi, Sunroof, Paint, MDi would be around $33k. Only $3000 different, you will get more pickup at lower RPM, more grin and better resale value. And if you have little more to spend, get the sports pack RRP$2000. Overall an extra $5000, maybe you can nudge little bit off that.

[sillygogo]

Hi there,

Just found this marvellous thread and wondering if you could help.
I'm wanting to get a Golf 90TSI Trendline DSG with
- Metallic Paint
- MDI + Cable
- Comfort Package
- Tint
Been given price of $33,500 (drive away) with corporate discount.

What price do you think I can get? Based on the spreadsheet, it looks like it should be around $32,250 (olaf line 32)
I'm Planning to buy before end of year, so would appreciate your thoughts!

Bit confused, as I never did look at the 118TSI - what's the difference between that and 90TSI? Looks like based on (kingwang, line 14) for that price, I can get the 118TSI.. doesn't seem to make sense!

Thanks in advance for your comments!
MKP.


Check out Corey's post on 90Tsi vs 118Tsi
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=38982
If the total pack for the 90Tsi is $32250, then an 118Tsi (QLD) + MDI + Cable + aftermarket tint would be around $34000, only $1750 different ...I would go for the 118Tsi.

[scurup]

Is there a list of companies, so I know if im eligable for the corporate discount? or is this too difficult to disclose due to privacy issues..

[elisiX]

The dealer (well at least mine did) will have a database to check from.

Just give any dealer a call.

[tazza]

118TSI
Candy White 5 door
Sunroof
Sports package + Leather
MDI
Bluetooth
Front and rear Mudflaps
Door sill Protect strip for 4 foors
Rear boot trim- chrome
Front and rear Mat - textile

$42500

[insidertrading]

just put down a deposit for

118tsi
DSG
Metallic Paint
leather upholstery
Rear Sensors
MDI


total 37663, what do you guys think?


also im quite concerned as to what tires you guys receive with your new cars

the make and brand of the tire is not explicitly stated on the contract and it slipped my mind to ask!!

any help would be very much appreciated!

[simonr]

i just ordered a 3dr white manual gti... with 18"s, Standard Genuine BT, Xenons, Tints for $43,400
this included a corporate discount..

[mattyf83]

i just ordered a 3dr white manual gti... with 18"s, Standard Genuine BT, Xenons, Tints for $43,400
this included a corporate discount..

What do you mean by gen standard BT? is this the gen vw bt? and if so what was ur option price.

your car will look awesome, 3 door white with detroits would have to be the best looking option IMO

[JLR]

How is everyone getting 10% off! The best i can get on a GTI is 6-7% with $1000 cash deposit and no finace! :mad:

Saying that though, the salesman did say that they are more likely to make more discount on a car that you order. I was looking for cars they have in stock as i need a car straighaway. And that probably is the difference :( I just cant wait 4 months as ive alread sold my car privatley

[midlifecrisis]

How is everyone getting 10% off! The best i can get on a GTI is 6-7% with $1000 cash deposit and no finace! :mad:

Saying that though, the salesman did say that they are more likely to make more discount on a car that you order. I was looking for cars they have in stock as i need a car straighaway. And that probably is the difference :( I just cant wait 4 months as ive alread sold my car privatley

Fleet discount as well to get above 10%.

I was offered $2800 off just for fleet.

[240z]

How is everyone getting 10% off! The best i can get on a GTI is 6-7% with $1000 cash deposit and no finace! :mad:

Saying that though, the salesman did say that they are more likely to make more discount on a car that you order. I was looking for cars they have in stock as i need a car straighaway. And that probably is the difference :( I just cant wait 4 months as ive alread sold my car privatley

I'm interested in this as well, this is what we are after,

5dr gti, dsg
red
18" detriots
ACC

On road for this came in at 49515 based on dealer delivery at $1995 which is still a frickin ripp off and the best I could get was just over $45k on road with no corp disc, this just doesn't do it for me, if I can't get a better price I might have to go with the subaru forrester xt.

[scheps]

How is everyone getting 10% off!

perhaps wrong dealer?

maybe coz they know you cant wait so more likely to pay more

if you finance they actually make more so its good for them. Dont tell them if you are financing or not, negotiate the deal first.

ask one of the guys who got an amazing deal and see if you can be teed up for the same deal?

there are reps on here so pm them? not sure if thast allowed but.

[scheps]

with no corp disc,.

someone correct me if wrong but with or without corp discount it doesnt make any difference. Its not like VW head office chips in on the discount if you are corp. Still comes out of that dealership ...

[elisiX]

Guys its not just the wait time that allows for bigger discounts, but the number of options you choose.

More options means more margin.

[midlifecrisis]

someone correct me if wrong but with or without corp discount it doesnt make any difference. Its not like VW head office chips in on the discount if you are corp. Still comes out of that dealership ...

Ah actually I believe its a yes, corp/fleet discount is paid by VW not the dealer, which is why they are so quick to offer it.

[scheps]

yea, thats what it should be in theory, just wondering why a friend, who went to negotiate a deal, then at the end said he was eligible for corporate program, didnt get anymore off.... if its VW paying they would have said yes and the deal would have been sealed?

so who knows.... :confused:

[Nath]

Its true that the more options the 'bigger' the discount due to the increased margins, but of course they also get more money out of you.

From my understanding the Corp discount entitles the dealer to a refund from VW Aus how much though I cant say.

For me I think it comes down to the dealer you go to, I took one from stock, Red with only MDI, and added reverse sensors and ended up with 11.7% discount from memory, so pretty happy, and I know elisiX got a great deal on an optioned++ ordered vehicle with no corp discount.

Use the spreadsheet in here to work out what the car costs with delivery etc and then aim for say 10% of total cost in discount, anymore is a bonus.

JLR no finance isnt a plus for a dealer either as they make more money if you finance than if you pay cash, I combined cash down (large amount) with finance to get my deal, not sure if that helped as we didnt go into much detail with financing during negotiations.

I can recommend Beamm at Sutherland McGrath Sydney as he gave me a good deal, and I'm sure there are others here have similar for other dealerships.

Good luck with the wheeling and dealing :)

[JLR]

Maybe, but i've been to 3 in VIC. I think ill have to cut my losses, as I need the car pretty much straight away. Cant wait 4 months. I think ive come to realsise, that if i want it NOW (car in stock), i have to pay a little bit more.


perhaps wrong dealer?

maybe coz they know you cant wait so more likely to pay more
Ah, thast makes sense. Oh well to late for that.


if you finance they actually make more so its good for them. Dont tell them if you are financing or not, negotiate the deal first.

Im not sure who they are. Davids been very helpful though.


there are reps on here so pm them? not sure if thast allowed but.

[Nath]

Just cause you're taking it from stock doesnt mean you should pay extra, in the end they need to sell the stock, having it sitting around does them no good.

Mate in the end the car is worth what you are willing to pay, if you're happy with 6-7% then thats a great price for you, and thats all that matters.

[240z]

So I take then that no one knows exactly what amount the corporote discount is?

[Brendan_A]

Well I got close to $2800 for corp discount. Depends on what car it is to how much discount you get too.

[scheps]

i tt corporate discount is the DD. Nothing else. The rest is negotiations...

[pologti18t]

this just doesn't do it for me, if I can't get a better price I might have to go with the subaru forrester xt.

Huh. Am i missing something? How is a Forrester XT in anyway similar to a GTI?

[nomodlowkmgti]

its got space for all ya stuff car take ya places like beach,snow, bush and pulls hard if ya give it.It does not handle like a gti but for a small suv it feels good and is safe reliable and fun.

[240z]

Huh. Am i missing something? How is a Forrester XT in anyway similar to a GTI?

Really its a car for the missus as my daily is a datsun 240z, her first option was the subaru xt but when we were out driving one day she mentioned she loved the look of the new golfs, thats where the gti comes in (fuel savings over the xt is also a plus) and its a bonus for me as I'll enjoy driving it too. But as I like to squeeze every possible last cent out of a deal it will come down to dollars in the end, it always satisfying knowing you've got a great deal.

[Timmy10]

Hi all,

New here.

Ive read that spreadsheet, some good info.

I am after a 118TSI + Metallic Paint + DSG + Park Assist + Extended Warranty.

Went to a dealer on the weekend. Was getting somewhere and was working out a nice price, till the guys manager came over and told me my price was unrealistic.

Only offered $500 off as his "margins are low and noone would approve my offer".

So i kindly thanked them and walked out.

Now the 118TSI was $36042 drive away + 1600 (warranty) + $1400 park + $500 paint. Youd think id get more off than $500.

Also, he wanted to charge me metallic paint on the current 103TDI promotion.

I wanted to ask a question. For example, ive added extended warranty as something I want. Would I be able to get a better price if I add another option like Sat Nav etc (because of the margins)?

[JLR]

Thats the thing. Im not happy, so i walked and didnt buy it. (secretly hoping they would stop me walking out the door as it was 4.30pm on a saturday)



Mate in the end the car is worth what you are willing to pay, if you're happy with 6-7% then thats a great price for you, and thats all that matters.

[JLR]

Heres the "deal"

5dr DSG GTI = $42,990
metallic/leather = $3,800
detroits = $1200
mdi $270
dealer del = $3,395
orc + s/duty = $1,900

Offer 1: $54,155
Offer 2: $52,271 (saving $1,884)

Now knowing that the Dealer del should be $1,995 not $3,995, this supposedly discount of $1,884 doesnt even cover the inflated DD figure. And its still RRP prices! They would not at all go under or near flat $50,000. I've have knowledge (help from forum members) that I should be paying between $48,500-$49,000 so i had that in mind. I even offered $49,990 and they rejected that. They were looking $51's.

Told them i had another dealer with same car except leather for $46,000 (legit). Which i still think is a bit high, and to add on leather to that the $49,000 is not unreasonable price for them. But they still knocked it back.

sigh.

[Nath]

Sucks that they wont deal, but I guess supply may be a bit light at the moment as the car was released in Nov and to my knowledge there has been no resupply shipment as of yet, so that may be the reason for the high cost?

Would you consider/have you tried out of state? You may get a better deal in NSW for example and then you can fly up here and drive it home all for less than the Vic dealer price.

But if you're after a specific spec and you need it now not in 4 months (thats right isnt it?) I guess you're in a weak bargaining position.

[JLR]

Thought of that when i was looking for a Mk5. But with a 6 week old baby at home, the wife has banned any interstate trips :)

Would you consider/have you tried out of state? You may get a better deal in NSW for example and then you can fly up here and drive it home all for less than the Vic dealer price.

Bingo, thats the problem. But i think ill be able to borrow family members cars for the time being, so i "may" be able to wait the 4 months (or so).

But if you're after a specific spec and you need it now not in 4 months (thats right isnt it?) I guess you're in a weak bargaining position.

[Allegiance]

Hi Guys,

I am looking for the following car:

MK6 GTI, DSG, Deep Black, Sunroof, ACC, 5 Door.

According to the spreadsheet the retail is $51,470, and the best discount I can get is (12%) says I can get the car for $45,294. Do you think this is realistic?

Also how do I qualify for corporate discount?

Thanks!

[Nath]

The spreadsheet should only be used for a guide of what other people have got and is in no way a direction on what you can expect to get in a discount.

That being said people have used the sheet to aim for a certain percentage, and I personally think that people should aim for the 10-12% off the total price of you vehicle, this doesnt mean you will get it, however it gives you something to aim for.

Now for your car if the retail is around $51K then I think aiming for an agreement around the $46K is a good deal, anything less is a bargain for you.

As for the coporate discount you need to work for a company or member of an organisation that VW recognise as a member of their corporate program, the dealer will be able to tell you if you qualify. That being said people have achived the magical 12% mark without the corporate discount and the dealer may offer the same $$ discount anyway.

Good luck and let use all know how you go.

[Allegiance]

As for the coporate discount you need to work for a company or member of an organisation that VW recognise as a member of their corporate program, the dealer will be able to tell you if you qualify. That being said people have achived the magical 12% mark without the corporate discount and the dealer may offer the same $$ discount anyway.

Thanks for your response, does the car have to be used for business purposes to qualify for this or can it still be fully personal?

Thanks

[Nath]

You have to fill out a form, and whilst it said that the car was for business on my original form, I changed it and they didnt seem to care, so I guess it is down to you specific dealer as to how they enforce the guidelines from VW.

[scheps]

the audi corporate program dont care what you do with your car so vw should be the same?

[craig_the_german]

Hi all,

I was wondering what people are being quoted and paying for Dealer delivery???

I was quoted $2722 Dealer delivery (not including 3rd party, rego, stamp duty or GST) on a 90TSI manual

Thanks

Pete

[scheps]

i tt DD was supposed to be locked at 1995.

[Brendan_A]

I ended up getting my dealer deliveries for $995 which was a steal! That is for a new 118TSI Golf.

[insidertrading]

as posted before

i just had a

118tsi
black metallic paint
leather trim only
rear sensors
mdi

- 36663

bought ext warranty separate for 1500

hopes this helps!

[Mk6 GTI]

Hi all,

I was wondering what people are being quoted and paying for Dealer delivery???

I was quoted $2722 Dealer delivery (not including 3rd party, rego, stamp duty or GST) on a 90TSI manual

Thanks

Pete

mate your being ripped off!

[craig_the_german]

Hi, I had a feeling that the quote was too high...but I haven't bought a new car in a few years so wasn't sure what the going rate was.

[logger]

Hi all,

I was wondering what people are being quoted and paying for Dealer delivery???

I was quoted $2722 Dealer delivery (not including 3rd party, rego, stamp duty or GST) on a 90TSI manual

Thanks

Pete


I ended up getting my dealer deliveries for $995 which was a steal! That is for a new 118TSI Golf.

I don't think you should concern yourself at all with what portion of your outlay the dealer allocates to Dealer Delivery. All that matters is the total price you pay. I have NFI what my DD was, it could have been $6,000 for all I care. I know what I paid in total for the car though. I was totally happy with the price. Hypothetically TDiJetta09's "steal" could be a case of the dealer placing more of his margin in the "deal" than the add ons. We all know the dealers aren't mugs.

[Timmy10]

Hey everyone.

Quick question.

Which corporate programs/associations do VW give discounts to?

Such as CA etc

I was thinking of getting a quick membership to obtain a discount.

For example, to be a member of some corporate programs only cost $100.

Thanks for your help

[Allegiance]

Hi Guys,

I recieved a price on a GTI, 5 Door, Black metallic paint, DSG, sunroof.

$46,000 drive away.

Does this seem like a good deal?

[sek]

Hi, I had a feeling that the quote was too high...but I haven't bought a new car in a few years so wasn't sure what the going rate was.

I think the for a 90TSI is around $1,995. At least that's what is printed on a price breakdown sheet i have from a dealer. Although each dealer may charge more or less. I think there are a few variables... like mark up, discounts..

Hope that helps

[Allegiance]

Hi Guys,

I recieved a price on a GTI, 5 Door, Black metallic paint, DSG, sunroof.

$46,000 drive away.

Does this seem like a good deal?

Anyone? I need to know if this is a good price before I go any further.

[Timmy10]

Question to all you Golf Experts.

Ive got a very nice price for a TSI.

Since the car has already arrived at the docks as a standard comfortline with DGS, they cant fit too many of the options that they would if it was already installed overseas prior to shipment.

I was thinking of sweetening the deal by saying to the dealer "if you throw in tinting and fog lights for that price ill buy it right now". Or "ill pay an extra $500 if you can throw in this and that"

I was wondering what were some of the good accessories that dealers would be happy to fit (as they have high margins) that I could squeeze out of them.

Cheers

[Brendan_A]

It would be a bit hard to get fog lights put in, because it wouldn't have the wiring loom, switch and the bumper insert would have to be changed. You could try for mats, mudflaps, boot mat.

[Timmy10]

It would be a bit hard to get fog lights put in, because it wouldn't have the wiring loom, switch and the bumper insert would have to be changed. You could try for mats, mudflaps, boot mat.


What about the bluetooth car kit.

Is that a universal bluetooth kit, or do you have to specify the brand/make of the phone?

[midlifecrisis]

After market parking sensors..

[Brendan_A]

They can fit the Bluetooth at the dealer.

[Nath]

Anyone? I need to know if this is a good price before I go any further.

Can only quote based on NSW on roads but here in NSW that spec would be $50,900 on the road, so based on a $46K purchase thats a 9% discount which is good but not great.

Up to you if you want to push any further, if you do you'd prob want to look at a price between $45 and $46K for that spec, or ask them to throw in something else for free such as tint or MDI.

[niulf]

Anyone? I need to know if this is a good price before I go any further.

This is what i got. $47500. GTI, 5 Door, Carbon steel gray metallic paint, DSG, Bi-Xenon, 18-inch and MDI.

[Allegiance]

This is what i got. $47500. GTI, 5 Door, Carbon steel gray metallic paint, DSG, Bi-Xenon, 18-inch and MDI.

I didn't get the best deal then :(

[JLR]

Dont worry dude. We are in the same boat. Looks like Melb dealers are not willing to negotiate like our other country men like above.


I didn't get the best deal then :(

[JLR]

for an extra $100, i was quoted one with Detroits. So at least you know there is still $1000 or so in it.


Hi Guys,

I recieved a price on a GTI, 5 Door, Black metallic paint, DSG, sunroof.

$46,000 drive away.

Does this seem like a good deal?

[jy01752684]

I have ordered my TSI and put down the deposit. The car should be delivered in 1.5 week time. Didn't try to steal accessories from the dealer. Now I really want a set of roof racks. The market price is about $200. Is it possible to steal racks at this stage? Anyone has any experience of talking to get more accessories after a contract's been signed?

thanks

[flappa]

What incentive is there for the Dealer to throw in extra AFTER you have signed the contract and paid a deposit ?

Deal is done. Extras are to get you to make the deal.

By all means try , but expect to be disappointed

[Allegiance]

for an extra $100, i was quoted one with Detroits. So at least you know there is still $1000 or so in it.

I already put deposit down yesterday so I could secure a car that will be in stock in two weeks :) Just wanted to see how I went with the deal.

[jy01752684]

Hoping the dealer is a very very very nice person. And the rack is unpopular accessory, they have too many in stock!:stupid:

[Allegiance]

What incentive is there for the Dealer to throw in extra AFTER you have signed the contract and paid a deposit ?

Deal is done. Extras are to get you to make the deal.

By all means try , but expect to be disappointed

I was hoping to get a deal from the dealer for a window tint but I guess it's probably to late as well

[flappa]

You never know if you dont have a crack. If they knock you back then you wont be disappointed

[MurphyTheElf]

I got my front window tints and boot tub (around $500 worth) after I'd signed the contract. However - I paid almost full price for a fully-spec'ed GTI. This is why the dealer was feeling generous. If you turned the thumbscrews pre-signed, I wouldn't expect much. But you can see that it is possible.

Another angle.... use post-sales servicing as an incentive.

[Allegiance]

I got my front window tints and boot tub (around $500 worth) after I'd signed the contract. However - I paid almost full price for a fully-spec'ed GTI. This is why the dealer was feeling generous. If you turned the thumbscrews pre-signed, I wouldn't expect much. But you can see that it is possible.

Another angle.... use post-sales servicing as an incentive.

Sorry what do you mean post-sales servicing? Do you mean the regular car servicing?

[MurphyTheElf]

Sorry what do you mean post-sales servicing? Do you mean the regular car servicing?

Yeah. It's more of an incentive to the sales manager, but still.....

[elisiX]

I can recommend Beamm at Sutherland McGrath Sydney as he gave me a good deal, and I'm sure there are others here have similar for other dealerships.

Called Sutherland this morning to check up on the GTI build and I'm told Beamm no longer works there. No explanation.

[JAYDEE]

Called Sutherland this morning to check up on the GTI build and I'm told Beamm no longer works there. No explanation.

Shame nice guy. Did me a good deal too.:frown:

[elisiX]

Well I don't know if he left of his own accord or was punted - but i've read that his Dad is a senior at one of the other McGrath franchises and got him a break in the industry (washing cars initially).

Question about your name. Is it Jayde? :)

[bobbymac]

Hey everyone.

Quick question.

Which corporate programs/associations do VW give discounts to?

Such as CA etc

I was thinking of getting a quick membership to obtain a discount.

For example, to be a member of some corporate programs only cost $100.

Thanks for your help

Just bought a 118TSI from Barloworld in Moorabbin, the dealer told us to get the Dogs Victoria membership which cost us about $130 and voila: Corporate Plus pricing. BTW thanks for this thread, it's been helpful with negotiations.

[Allegiance]

Just bought a 118TSI from Barloworld in Moorabbin, the dealer told us to get the Dogs Victoria membership which cost us about $130 and voila: Corporate Plus pricing. BTW thanks for this thread, it's been helpful with negotiations.

What was the final price? Also, how long did they say you had to wait?

[bobbymac]

What was the final price? Also, how long did they say you had to wait?

$33,500 drive away for 118TSI Comfortline / DSG / Metallic Paint / Media Interface / Bluetooth / Mats. They said end of Feb. I think we might have gotten better pricing, but I am not great at negotiating :)

[DracZ]

Hi guys, apologies if its a bit off topic - but I was just wondering if this 2nd hand 118TSI I was quoted was a decent deal or totally off the mark.

2009 Golf MK6 118TSI
DSG
Metallic Paint
Sports Package
Leather
RNS510 + Reverse Camera
Dynaudio upgrade
11,500km (Ex demo)

$38,000 (all charges inclusive except rego, I'm in VIC the car is in NSW)

Appreciate the help guys, thanks!

[Nath]

Hi guys, apologies if its a bit off topic - but I was just wondering if this 2nd hand 118TSI I was quoted was a decent deal or totally off the mark.

2009 Golf MK6 118TSI
DSG
Metallic Paint
Sports Package
Leather
RNS510 + Reverse Camera
Dynaudio upgrade
11,500km (Ex demo)

$38,000 (all charges inclusive except rego, I'm in VIC the car is in NSW)

Appreciate the help guys, thanks!

So the above spec without OR costs and using DD of $1995 would be $46,500 or there abouts new, so paying $38K your looking at 18% off new rrp.

Considering that people are getting on average around 12% for a brand new car, IMO the extra 6% (~$2700) due to the car having 11,500km isnt really a bargain, thats what $0.23 per km, if I were you I'd be asking for a little more than that, how much I'm not sure...

Redbook has the following:

Valuation Prices
* Private Price Guide $26,200 - $29,000
* Trade In Price Guide $21,600 - $24,400
* Average Km 15,000 - 25,000

So given the car was a demo, and that it has almost average km for the model with those options I'd say a figure around $35K may be fairer, but thats me having a pretty big stab in the dark.

[DracZ]

So the above spec without OR costs and using DD of $1995 would be $46,500 or there abouts new, so paying $38K your looking at 18% off new rrp.

Considering that people are getting on average around 12% for a brand new car, IMO the extra 6% (~$2700) due to the car having 11,500km isnt really a bargain, thats what $0.23 per km, if I were you I'd be asking for a little more than that, how much I'm not sure...

Redbook has the following:

Valuation Prices
* Private Price Guide $26,200 - $29,000
* Trade In Price Guide $21,600 - $24,400
* Average Km 15,000 - 25,000

So given the car was a demo, and that it has almost average km for the model with those options I'd say a figure around $35K may be fairer, but thats me having a pretty big stab in the dark.

Thanks for the quick reply Nath.

That's a fair statement. However do take into consideration that most of the people who've achieved ~12% have done so with a corporate discount which I don't have access to unfortunately. If you re-do the the average figures for recent purchases without a corp. discount its about 9.5%.

For those who've purchased recently here in VIC - any advice on getting a better rate? I'm all for purchasing a new vehicle provided I can get a decent discount. I can do without the leather and dynaudio, but the satnav / sports package is a must.

I also got quoted the following by the first dealer locally I've had a chance to see:

Golf MK6 118TSI DSG
Metallic Paint
Sports Package Cloth
MDI
RNS510
Rear Parking Sensors

$41,000 (RRP: $43,781 according to his breakdown)

Even after 30 minutes of several offers being made and running to his boss, that was the best he could do - walked straight out.

Anyone have any dealers they could recommend? Feel free to PM me thanks

[Nath]

True that corp discount has been used, however people have achieved the same discount on other cars without the corp discount.

I guess on problem is that the 118 is a v. popular model so may be harder to negotiate on.

Good luck in any case.

[elisiX]

Yup I didn't qualify but received in essence the same discount as those with corporate. About 10-11% in total in the end.

[scheps]

which dealer was that? did you try south yarra or glen waverley?

[JLR]

Ive been to Glen Waverley, Camberwell, Knox. Can only get between 2-6.5% off RRP.
Werribee and Morrabin were very good on the phone, but would not give final pricing and "have to check with the boss first".

One guy agreed with my price i wanted (9%), after a few negotiations on the phone, and said, "oh I actually can't guarantee that price, i'll have to ask my boss first". Needless to say that the boss didn't agree and it was a huge waste of 15 minutes on the phone.

As someone mentioned to me earlier. It looks like i might try interstate dealers becuase i can not the the melbouren dealers to play ball.

Note: Im not trying to screw the dealers down to nothing. Only what the average prices are here. And with dealers charging $3995 dealer delivery and only giving me $1800 off the RRP is a joke. This doesnt even cover the inflated DD pricing?!


Anyone have any dealers they could recommend? Feel free to PM me thanks

[DracZ]

Have another quote here:

Golf MK6 118TSI DSG
Metallic Paint
Sports Pack + Leather
Rear Parking Sensors
MDI
Floor mats
Ipod Cable

$40,000 drive away - is that a decent price?

Also I plan on purchasing a 2nd hand RNS510 at a later stage - would they be hard to install? Also is it supposed to come with anything else besides the double din unit itself? Thanks

[DracZ]

Finally placed my order - thanks to everyone who helped along the way!

Golf MK6 118TSI
DSG
Black (Metallic)
Sports Pack Cloth
MDI + Cable
Reverse Sensors

$35000 drive away, ETA 2 weeks! :banana:

[Nath]

congrats :)

[Mk6 GTI]

Ive been to Glen Waverley, Camberwell, Knox. Can only get between 2-6.5% off RRP.
Werribee and Morrabin were very good on the phone, but would not give final pricing and "have to check with the boss first".

One guy agreed with my price i wanted (9%), after a few negotiations on the phone, and said, "oh I actually can't guarantee that price, i'll have to ask my boss first". Needless to say that the boss didn't agree and it was a huge waste of 15 minutes on the phone.

As someone mentioned to me earlier. It looks like i might try interstate dealers becuase i can not the the melbouren dealers to play ball.

Note: Im not trying to screw the dealers down to nothing. Only what the average prices are here. And with dealers charging $3995 dealer delivery and only giving me $1800 off the RRP is a joke. This doesnt even cover the inflated DD pricing?!



4k for dd... thats a shocker!

[teflon]

Double post

[teflon]

4k for dd... thats a shocker!

These are the RRPs I've been quoted from Austral VW in QLD - $2.7K for DD but ORCs of about $4.3K. Hope to strike up a deal with corporate pricing once my current car has a buyer...

90 TSI $24990.00 RRP
$2000.00 COMFORT PACK
$678.00 12 MONTHS REGO AND CTP
$2722.73 DEALER DELIVERY
$891.00 STAMP DUTY
$2971.36 GST

$34254.00 ON ROAD

118 TSI $29081.82 RRP
$678.00 12 MONTHS REGO AND CTP
$2722.73 DEALER DELIVERY
$960 STAMP DUTY
$3180.46 GST

$36623 ON ROAD

[pologti18t]

Why is GST being added to the RRP?

[teflon]

RRP 22,718.18 + GST = 24,990
Comfort Pack 2,000.00 + GST = 2,200
Dealer Delivery 2,722.73 + GST = 2,995
Sub Total 30,185
Stamp Duty 891
Rego & CTP 678

Total Price $31,754

That's what I thought Dermot. If I managed to get 12% corporate discount on that then it makes the decision between this and a mazda 3 a no brainer.

Edit: I believe those prices I was quoted were for the DSG option (hence the extra 2.5K).

What is your RRP for the 118TSI (no options), Candy White?

[scheps]

i tt DD was fixed at 1995?

[Baxter]

A quick question regarding the "Corporate Discount".

Is this discount something that the dealer wears... or do they have to verify all corp particulars because WGA then offers the dealer a rebate??

How does it actually work, and who actual "gives" this discount?

[Baxter]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Amazing how quiet all the dealers staff have become??

[AdamD]

A quick question regarding the "Corporate Discount".

Is this discount something that the dealer wears... or do they have to verify all corp particulars because WGA then offers the dealer a rebate??

How does it actually work, and who actual "gives" this discount?

I believe VWA passes the discount on to the dealer in full. As a result, it's no skin off the dealer's nose if you're eligible for corporate plus - better for you, and therefore better for the dealer too. The only caveat I can think of is that the dealer may have a quota for the discount, but I doubt it.

[Baxter]

....and therefore better for the dealer too.


Thx for the reply Adam - I thought that was the case.

Which means that most dealers will climb into their shell after the Corp discount ceiling has been reached (on standard car - no options) - and the person buying the car thinks "gee what a good deal the dealership gave me".. when in reality they should be pushing for another 5% on top. The dealer needs to give a bit also.

So 15% discount should be a standard discount on stock car (10% corp + 5% dealer).. Any extras would need at an absolute minimum another 25% off.

[craig_the_german]

Hi all,

My wife and I were in at the dealer today trying (in vain) to test drive a 90TSI Manual. The salesman mentioned that as of March 1st, VWA will be enforcing a cap to the dealer delivery charges. I believe it will be $1995 (or there abouts)

[Baxter]

Hi all,

My wife and I were in at the dealer today trying (in vain) to test drive a 90TSI Manual. The salesman mentioned that as of March 1st, VWA will be enforcing a cap to the dealer delivery charges. I believe it will be $1995 (or there abouts)

When you buy ANY mass produced make of car, your crazy if you pay more than $500 for Dealer Fees..

[diop]

Hi guys

I am looking at buying a 118TSI Comfortline
DSG
Metallic Paint (Black)
Sunroof
RCD510 Dynaudio
MDI
Cloth Sport Package

On road from Solitaire Hawthorn (Adelaide) have quoted me around $43,125. I'm thinking of making an offer of around $37,500-38,000. Is that realistic/acheivable?

Also, I have been considering waiting until the end of June to purchase since it is now almost May. Are VW dealers generally good with end of financial year sales or is it not worth the wait?

Cheers

[BBP]

Hi guys

I am looking at buying a 118TSI Comfortline
DSG
Metallic Paint (Black)
Sunroof
RCD510 Dynaudio
MDI
Cloth Sport Package

On road from Solitaire Hawthorn (Adelaide) have quoted me around $43,125. I'm thinking of making an offer of around $37,500-38,000. Is that realistic/acheivable?

Also, I have been considering waiting until the end of June to purchase since it is now almost May. Are VW dealers generally good with end of financial year sales or is it not worth the wait?

Cheers

Hey Diop,

Your offer is achievable.

My order last week was:

Golf 118TSI Comfortline DSG
Candy White
Sunroof
RCD510
Dynaudio
RVC
MDI
Front Fog Lights
Adaptive Chassis Control
Window Tint
Mats

$38,500 drive away in Sydney ... just over 11% discount.

PM me if you want to know where etc.

[kaoticice]

This was mine. I dealed mine @ chatswood classic cars (henry)

Golf 118TSI DSG
Candy White
sports package
mat
mdi
ipod cables

$34,650 driveaway without corporate disc.

[vot]

Picked up mine a few days ago.

5 Door Golf GTI 2010 Built
DSG
Candy White
Bi-Xenon Lights

$43K drive away with corporate discount

[dopey]

Anyone bought a Wagon here lately?

[118TSI]

Totally agree with the above, havent seen one out on the rd, apart from the VAG cars in Syd

[Syd118TSI]

Ignore my username! ..

Just signed up for a 118tsi DSG silver coming in a few months.

$33,300 with mats :)

[hooba]

What made you decide to leave the diesel camp and return to unleaded crowd?

[Syd118TSI]

What made you decide to leave the diesel camp and return to unleaded crowd?

I thought I told you to ignore the username! :D

Actually didn't get the Pacific TDI for a few reasons.. the main one being that the dealership wasn't showing much movement on the price, and the Mrs preferred another car (pretty much entirely based on looks!).

So I didn't actually enter the diesel camp, though I'd been keenly eyeing off the new Golf for a little while now. After driving it today with the DSG we were both sold. It also offers excellent fuel economy which further sealed the deal.

[BBP]

And because of the smart combo of the super and turbo chargers it still has that elastic band style acceleration quality of the TDI ....

AND it revs like a champ.
AND the fuel economy is line ball with the diesel.
AND it is much more refined that the TDI.
AND the fuel pumps are clean.
AND it is faster.
AND the lighter engine means better handling balance.
AND it doesn't rattle at idle.
AND it is cheaper.

Seriously, I don't know how VW sell a TDI. That TDI engine is way too old now. The game has moved on.

[BBP]

This was mine. I dealed mine @ chatswood classic cars (henry)

Golf 118TSI DSG
Candy White
sports package
mat
mdi
ipod cables

$34,650 driveaway without corporate disc.

Nice combo. Just need a tint now.

Also, what is the difference btw "iPod cables" and MDI ?

[DracZ]

Also, what is the difference btw "iPod cables" and MDI ?

Think of the whole contraption as two separate modules. You have the MDI which is part of your car and extends as a wire in either your glovebox or center console which ends in a proprietary socket, and attached to that socket you have any number of cables - iPod connector, USB etc.

[Syd118TSI]

Hopefully not a thread derail - but what are the MDI and ipod cable worth.. dealer didn't even talk accessories with me :O

[ozgti]

This was mine. I dealed mine @ chatswood classic cars (henry)

Golf 118TSI DSG
Candy White
sports package
mat
mdi
ipod cables

$34,650 driveaway without corporate disc.

Thanks!

Got the same price on a Shark blue with MDI and mats and sports package, though not sure if it has the Ipod cable. $34650 with corporate discount though!

[Corey_R]

The MDI > USB cable is included already. The MDI > iPod cable needs to be purchased as an accessory. Either way they're $83.05 :)

[skings]

the same dealer as kaoticice?

[diop]

Went to a dealer recently to negotiate a price on a 118 TSI Comfortline + various options. Drive-away price was around 46,5. Absolute best I could negotiate at the time was 42k (including Corporate Discount) approved by the Sales Manager.

I was straight up and said I am pretty sure I can get a better price than that (not having negotiated with other dealers at that stage). The salesperson I dealt with asked me if that was around the mark of what I was hoping for off the drive-away price, and I said I was pretty sure I am able to get a better deal, if not at this dealer, then elsewhere. He was adamant that this was the absolute best price I would be able to get in Australia and asked me why I thought I would be able to negotiate a better price. Before I had a chance to answer he asked me if I had been reading online forums regarding dealer negotiations and asked have these people actually bought the cars they are talking about? He then said that he has somehow dispelled the 'myth' to other customers of the kind of percentage discounts you guys have received. It sounded pretty sus to me ie. I didn't believe him, but I didn't bother to ask him to explain it to me. Probably should have though in hindsight.

Anyway, I said yes to doing some research on forums, but not only have I been getting ideas online, I also had a friend who purchased a vehicle from that dealership not long ago and received a better discount than me. He assured me that I was getting a better deal. I stood firm and said I would not put pen to paper until I contact other dealers to see if they can beat the price quoted to me.

[scheps]

the guy is full of it, as you can tell, if you do the maths, the majority of people here get essentially the same discount +/- few hundred. There are exceptions of course, as circumstances are different, but largely the same discounts.

I wouldnt buy it from someone like that. Slight misguidance is one thing, but blatantly lying to you is another. He must think you are stupid, which is clearly not the case.

[markwid]

Went to a dealer recently to negotiate a price on a 118 TSI Comfortline + various options. Drive-away price was around 46,5. Absolute best I could negotiate at the time was 42k (including Corporate Discount) approved by the Sales Manager.

Whether this is a good price or not, depends on what are the "various options".
But if I am to spend 42k, I would consider getting a GTI instead.

[diop]

Whether this is a good price or not, depends on what are the "various options".
But if I am to spend 42k, I would consider getting a GTI instead.

Leather, Sunroof, Dynaudio, Sports Pack, Metallic Paint, RVC, MDI

I did consider a GTI, however with the options I want the price will be closer to 50k I imagine which is out of my price range.

[ozgti]

the same dealer as kaoticice?

Yes.

Will the normal Ipod cable fit into the USB slot to control the iPod or is it a special cable?

[diop]

Yes.

Will the normal Ipod cable fit into the USB slot to control the iPod or is it a special cable?

Apparently not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhVRHek-6zU

[ozgti]

So the MDI option doesn't come with the ipod cable? Crap!

[elisiX]

Nope - it's an absolute rort.

Who the hell is going to plus any device other than an iPod/iPhone in.

The cable should be part of the kit with the option of using either.

[kennyc]

Nope - it's an absolute rort.

Who the hell is going to plus any device other than an iPod/iPhone in.

The cable should be part of the kit with the option of using either.

My dealer said the iphone/ipod cable does come with it. I but bet you picking up the car today that i wont have it!

[Corey_R]

Nope - it's an absolute rort.

Who the hell is going to plus any device other than an iPod/iPhone in.

The cable should be part of the kit with the option of using either.

*puts his hand up*

Me! I refuse to use a product where the company tells YOU how and when you can use your device. Give me an Anything But iPod (http://www.anythingbutipod.com/) any day :)

[dopey]

I prefer to use the SD Card feature instead of MDI - SD Card is a lot better because you can leave it in the car without worrying about thieves, and you can manage the music on any computer you like without having to use any other programs. That way I can leave my iPod alone without modifying it for any sort of playlists I prefer in the car and whatnot. Oh, and I can have two separate folders - one for my music, one for the wife's music. So much easier.

[elisiX]

Corey fair enough.

But for me, when a company makes a product as simple and intuitive as Apple, I'm happy to pay them for it.

It's not expensive and runs without a hitch - at least the 3 iPhones, 5 iPod's, 2 Macbook Pro's and iMac i've bought from them have been perfect.

:D

[diop]

So the MDI option doesn't come with the ipod cable? Crap!

I managed to get them to throw in as part of the deal. Otherwise, it costs around $80.

[ozgti]

So the MDI option doesn't come with the ipod cable? Crap!

Spoke to the dealer, I pick the 118 in Shark Blue tomorrow, and asked him to throw the cable in (Crap it's not included anyways!) Then it's off to Newcastle for the weekend.

[Szabz]

Hi Guys,

Looking at buying a 118TSI Manual in candy white with sports pack (cloth). Hoping to achieve a D/A price in Victoria of $31,000?

Any thoughts on if this is a good deal? achievable?. I don't have any corportate discounts.

I'm aware of the waterpump "chirp" and loss of compression issues with the TSI motor - does anyone know if there has been a fix made in the factory from a certain production date on either of these issues? Obviously i'd try and secure a car with the fix.

Thanks heaps - been doing heaps of reading hear lately and all posts have been extremly helpful!!

:)

[cameronp]

I paid $35230 for a white 118TSI with DSG, sports pack and mats included; which is about a 7% discount. But that's in WA, where there seems to be less competition between dealers (or just higher costs to get the cars here in the first place?). In fact, at the first dealership I went to I was told something along the lines of "we're a premium brand, we don't do discounts because it would devalue our products". Needless to say I left and went elsewhere.

[G-rig]

Me! I refuse to use a product where the company tells YOU how and when you can use your device. Give me an Anything But iPod (http://www.anythingbutipod.com/) any day :)

I love those kind of websites where people try to go out of their way not to get an ipod, even if it's not as good. Most people doing the bashing don't or have never owned one.

If people can't negotiate to get a cable thrown in they should just cough up the $70 (it will be the cheapest part of buying a new car).

Ps. Don't get Mav started again on apple.

[G-rig]

I prefer to use the SD Card feature instead of MDI - SD Card is a lot better because you can leave it in the car without worrying about thieves, and you can manage the music on any computer you like without having to use any other programs. That way I can leave my iPod alone without modifying it for any sort of playlists I prefer in the car and whatnot. Oh, and I can have two separate folders - one for my music, one for the wife's music. So much easier.

I think if someone smashed a window and broke in I'd be more worried about that and replacing the glass would cost more.

Although you may as well use SD card if the MDai doesn't do gapless anymore.

80-160gb is still better than 32Gb though.

[Corey_R]

I love those kind of websites where people try to go out of their way not to get an ipod, even if it's not as good. Most people doing the bashing don't or have never owned one.
Nah - this site is pretty good. They due who writes the articles does rounds ups of MP3 hardware and software, and he usually always includes the iPods and iTunes in his review sample (even if he doesn't post a big write up on them) so that the features and quality of them is considered.

Some of the forum members... well, you can't say that they are any worse than some of the forum members here with their bias ;)

[markwid]

Leather, Sunroof, Dynaudio, Sports Pack, Metallic Paint, RVC, MDI

I did consider a GTI, however with the options I want the price will be closer to 50k I imagine which is out of my price range.

I see. I would give up all those options to get the GTI. No comparison between 2.0 TFSI and 1.4 TFSI engine. You get the real deal with GTI whereas that puny 1.4 litre engine feels underpowered sometimes when you get off the mark.

[Corey_R]

It's personal opinion really. Get 10 different people, they'd probably be divided between that and probably even give you different ways to achieve of justify their opinion.

diop, you're doing the right thing mate. Get the car that you want :)

[Flighter]

But that's in WA, where there seems to be less competition between dealers (or just higher costs to get the cars here in the first place?). In fact, at the first dealership I went to I was told something along the lines of "we're a premium brand, we don't do discounts because it would devalue our products".

LOL! I bet just about every WA member could name the dealership that said that too!

[emuexport]

Which one? I didnt get that from Wangara or Ossie Park. Although they did spin the we dont make any money crap when I pushed for a better price.

[diop]

It's personal opinion really. Get 10 different people, they'd probably be divided between that and probably even give you different ways to achieve of justify their opinion.

diop, you're doing the right thing mate. Get the car that you want :)


I see. I would give up all those options to get the GTI. No comparison between 2.0 TFSI and 1.4 TFSI engine. You get the real deal with GTI whereas that puny 1.4 litre engine feels underpowered sometimes when you get off the mark.


Both are valid points. Given a limited but identical budget, some people would obviously be inclined to sacrifice some engine performance for a number of luxuries, whilst others would be inclined to sacrifice a number of luxuries for a model with better engine performance.

[Flighter]

Which one? I didnt get that from Wangara or Ossie Park. Although they did spin the we dont make any money crap when I pushed for a better price.

I was referring to John Hughes VW, whose attitude I felt at the time of my first and only visit to them was very elitist. Osborne Park reneged on their offer when it came to me placing the order, but Dermot at Wangara was excellent to deal with from the start.

[cameronp]

I was referring to John Hughes VW, whose attitude I felt at the time of my first and only visit to them was very elitist. Osborne Park reneged on their offer when it came to me placing the order, but Dermot at Wangara was excellent to deal with from the start.

I didn't even go to John Hughes after a friend told me how he was treated there. It was actually Wangara who came across as elitist and disorganised - surprising that most people on this forum found them just the reverse. In fairness, after I left, the salesman at Wangara phoned me and said that he'd spoken to his manager and was actually able to accept my offer after all. But by then it was too late, I was on my way to Osborne Park.


Both are valid points. Given a limited but identical budget, some people would obviously be inclined to sacrifice some engine performance for a number of luxuries, whilst others would be inclined to sacrifice a number of luxuries for a model with better engine performance.

I was actually in a similar position - although in my case, I was torn between getting a Golf 118TSI or a Focus XR5. The Focus is an awful lot of fun in driving situations that I just don't find myself in, but lacks a lot of the luxury features that come standard with the Golf. Then again, most of the extra options available for the Golf are either things I don't want, or priced well over what they're worth to me. Other people might question why you'd buy a Golf at all when a Hyundai i30 does the same job for $10,000 less. It's just a matter of how much money you're willing to spend and what your priorities are.

[Guest1306]

I didn't even go to John Hughes after a friend told me how he was treated there. It was actually Wangara who came across as elitist and disorganised - surprising that most people on this forum found them just the reverse. In fairness, after I left, the salesman at Wangara phoned me and said that he'd spoken to his manager and was actually able to accept my offer after all. But by then it was too late, I was on my way to Osborne Park.

When was this?

[markwid]

Other people might question why you'd buy a Golf at all when a Hyundai i30 does the same job for $10,000 less. It's just a matter of how much money you're willing to spend and what your priorities are.

Out of curiosity, I did test drive the Hyundai i30 before we bought the Golf. And while I think i30 is a great improvement for Hyundai, I would still go with Golf.

The engine in i30 sucks big time in comparison to 2.0 engine in mk5 (and I suspect mk5 was the benchmark that i30 was compared with in development). The engine was very sluggish upwards around 3000 rpm; so it gets off the mark ok but in-gear acceleration suffers.
Resale value is also a concern. Interior is a bit rough.

So even if $ is tight, I would prefer to get a second hand mk5 rather than i30.

To compare it to mk6 is not really fair for i30, it is one generation behind. I guess that is why it is about $10,000 less. You do get what you pay for.

[GTi Crow]

Ordered mine ages ago (very early Jan 2010), but am only just putting to paper as it is finally in Australian waters and heading to my drive, hopefully within the month. Ordered the following: -

5 door GTI
DSG
Carbon Steel
Leather
Sat Nav
Bi-Xenon Headlights
MDI
18inch Detroit Wheels
Park Assist
ACC
Dark Tinted Glass in rear windows
Tinted Drivers & Passenger windows 30%
Bluetooth - cheaper of the 2 versions
Tow Bar - sorry have bikes to transport
Corporate Discount taken into account
Total $58,100 drive away

[ddre78]

Ordered 21st Dec 09 - 2010 Build. ETA 2-3 Weeks.

GTI 5 Door
Candy White
DSG
Leather
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Adaptive Chassis Control
Detroit 18" Wheels
Total $49,170 inc C+.

[giddleberry]

Ordered 21st Dec 09 - 2010 Build. ETA 2-3 Weeks.

GTI 5 Door
Candy White
DSG
Leather
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Adaptive Chassis Control
Detroit 18" Wheels
Total $49,170

May I ask if that's with or without corp discount?

[G-rig]

Ordered mine ages ago (very early Jan 2010), but am only just putting to paper as it is finally in Australian waters and heading to my drive, hopefully within the month. Ordered the following: -

5 door GTI
DSG
Carbon Steel
Leather
Sat Nav
Bi-Xenon Headlights
MDI
18inch Detroit Wheels
Park Assist
ACC
Dark Tinted Glass in rear windows
Tinted Drivers & Passenger windows 30%
Bluetooth - cheaper of the 2 versions
Tow Bar - sorry have bikes to transport
Corporate Discount taken into account
Total $58,100 drive away

Wow 58k is getting up there, is that fully loaded?

[ddre78]

May I ask if that's with or without corp discount?

Yep sorry, thats inc C+.

[cameronp]

When was this?

Saturday 17th April.


Out of curiosity, I did test drive the Hyundai i30 before we bought the Golf. And while I think i30 is a great improvement for Hyundai, I would still go with Golf.

The engine in i30 sucks big time in comparison to 2.0 engine in mk5 (and I suspect mk5 was the benchmark that i30 was compared with in development). The engine was very sluggish upwards around 3000 rpm; so it gets off the mark ok but in-gear acceleration suffers.
Resale value is also a concern. Interior is a bit rough.

Yeah. A friend of mine bought an i30 diesel last year. When I drove it, it seemed a bit gutless and the automatic always felt like it was in the wrong gear. Steered like a barge compared to a Golf or Focus, too. Didn't mind the interior, if anything it's better looking than the Focus, but obviously not on par with a VW.

[GTi Crow]

Wow 58k is getting up there, is that fully loaded?

You have lost me with the "fully Loaded" comment. If you mean do I have all options - no I do not as I did not update sound system - not worth it with my hearing. If not, please explain!

[emuexport]

Another one for the spreadsheet:

118 TSI
DSG
United Grey (Metallic Paint)
Sports Pack Cloth
MDI
$36500 (no corp discount) 8.3% saving on RRP

And already have a RCD510 to replace the RCD310 for $300ish from a fellow member so even m ore of a saving now to find someone to install it for me.

[G-rig]

You have lost me with the "fully Loaded" comment. If you mean do I have all options - no I do not as I did not update sound system - not worth it with my hearing. If not, please explain!

All good mate, was just wondering if that was all the options as you've chose some nice ones!!

[flying_sheep]

Hey guys, I placed deposit on Saturday. Could you guys tell me if I got a good deal or not?

2010 Build MK6 90TSI, Candy White, Comfort Pack.
Total $30000 (Corp Disc included)

Should've I went for 118TSI no opt instead? I am regretting abit for not going for Comfortline...

Thanks

[Corey_R]

You are correct that by the time you go for the 90TSI with the Comfort Pack, you're already pretty close to the cost of the 118TSI without options. If you only signed on Saturday, if there is a cooling off period, you could change the order :)

[flying_sheep]

You are correct that by the time you go for the 90TSI with the Comfort Pack, you're already pretty close to the cost of the 118TSI without options. If you only signed on Saturday, if there is a cooling off period, you could change the order :)

Thanks for your feedback coreying. How long is the cooling off period? The dealer never mentioned a cooling off period and they are probably not at work right now... And how much am I looking at for a 118TSI no opts with highest level corp disc?

Edit: I googled cooling off period and apparently cooling off period only applies to used car purchases only...

I test drove the 90TSI and fell in love instantly with the way it drives I didnt think about the 118...

:( Damn, I shouldve asked for advice before I make any decision...

[G-rig]

Just have a chat to the dealer/manager, i'm sure they would let you upgrade perhaps.

[Corey_R]

There is only $2300 difference between a 90TSI DSG with Comfort Pack, and a 118TSI DSG. Since you already were able to obtain a ~10% discount on your car, I see no reason why they couldn't supply you for the 118TSI DSG in Candy white for only $2k more... so $32,000 drive away.

As for the cooling off period, the only way to tell is to actually look at the papers you actually signed.
However, even if there isn't one, giving the dealer a phone call and asking whether it can be switched to a 118TSI can't hurt. Dealers are often accomodating to customers who are waiting to swap for a higher model - as long as the deal hasn't gone too far or involved some technicality or financial outlay for the dealer already (having to purchase the car themselves, swap with another dealer or something like that).

Either way, I think you'll be happy with the 90TSI or 118TSI. But if you're having 2nd thoughts now, and you can afford the additional, don't sit there, call the dealer NOW! :D

[flying_sheep]

There is only $2300 difference between a 90TSI DSG with Comfort Pack, and a 118TSI DSG. Since you already were able to obtain a ~10% discount on your car, I see no reason why they couldn't supply you for the 118TSI DSG in Candy white for only $2k more... so $32,000 drive away.

As for the cooling off period, the only way to tell is to actually look at the papers you actually signed.
However, even if there isn't one, giving the dealer a phone call and asking whether it can be switched to a 118TSI can't hurt. Dealers are often accomodating to customers who are waiting to swap for a higher model - as long as the deal hasn't gone too far or involved some technicality or financial outlay for the dealer already (having to purchase the car themselves, swap with another dealer or something like that).

Either way, I think you'll be happy with the 90TSI or 118TSI. But if you're having 2nd thoughts now, and you can afford the additional, don't sit there, call the dealer NOW! :D

Hey thanks so much for your advice coreying and G-rig.
I've given this some time and really thought about this. If I compare 118TSI (no opts) vs 90TSI (with comfort pack) basically for 2-3k more I will be getting "Comfort Seats", Chrome trims on the grill and more power and torque. I felt that 90TSI had plenty enough power and torque (well, to me anyway). I never tested or seen the "comfort seats" but, correct me if Im wrong, I thought that they both are cloth seats anyway how much more "comfortable" can they be? Chrome grills look good but at the end of the day Im not too bothered about not having them really. I could be wrong but I cant really justify forking out another 2-3k for these extras. So I think Im going to stick with 90TSI.

[nau]

So I think Im going to stick with 90TSI.
in short
u only happy if u happy

[G-rig]

Hey thanks so much for your advice coreying and G-rig.
I've given this some time and really thought about this. If I compare 118TSI (no opts) vs 90TSI (with comfort pack) basically for 2-3k more I will be getting "Comfort Seats", Chrome trims on the grill and more power and torque. I felt that 90TSI had plenty enough power and torque (well, to me anyway). I never tested or seen the "comfort seats" but, correct me if Im wrong, I thought that they both are cloth seats anyway how much more "comfortable" can they be? Chrome grills look good but at the end of the day Im not too bothered about not having them really. I could be wrong but I cant really justify forking out another 2-3k for these extras. So I think Im going to stick with 90TSI.

Bit hard for anyone else to help decide - depends what you want out of a few extras or a better base model. I'm not really familiar with either so can't offer much advice except 2-3k is probably not much over a few years and wouldn't affect repayments much if you are financing etc.. Just get the one you want the first time i guess.

[Brendan_A]

Hey guys, I placed deposit on Saturday. Could you guys tell me if I got a good deal or not?

2010 Build MK6 90TSI, Candy White, Comfort Pack.
Total $30000 (Corp Disc included)

Should've I went for 118TSI no opt instead? I am regretting abit for not going for Comfortline...

Thanks

Hey mate, I got my 118TSI comfortline with options( see sig) for $33900. Not much more than your 90TSI

[fungaside]

Hey thanks so much for your advice coreying and G-rig.
I've given this some time and really thought about this. If I compare 118TSI (no opts) vs 90TSI (with comfort pack) basically for 2-3k more I will be getting "Comfort Seats", Chrome trims on the grill and more power and torque. I felt that 90TSI had plenty enough power and torque (well, to me anyway). I never tested or seen the "comfort seats" but, correct me if Im wrong, I thought that they both are cloth seats anyway how much more "comfortable" can they be? Chrome grills look good but at the end of the day Im not too bothered about not having them really. I could be wrong but I cant really justify forking out another 2-3k for these extras. So I think Im going to stick with 90TSI.

I have to say that I had a bit of panic after ordering my 90TSI also, thinking that I should've spent a bit more for the 118TSI. But where does it end? You could spend a bit more on the 118, or a lot more and get the GTI! Also, budget wise, we worked out how much we were willing to spend, and stuck to it.

Anyhow, I picked up the 90TSI last Wednesday, and I have to say, I'm more than happy with it. Great car!!!

[Corey_R]

If I compare 118TSI (no opts) vs 90TSI (with comfort pack) basically for 2-3k more I will be getting "Comfort Seats", Chrome trims on the grill and more power and torque.

I created a post agents ago to show the differences between the 77TDI / 90TDI Trendline Golfs, and the 103TDI / 118TSI Comfortline Golfs:


Comfort Package adds:
Allow Wheels 15" Wellington (instead of steel wheels with hubcabs!)
Automatic dimming interior rear-view mirror
Cruise Control
Dual Zone Climate Control Air Conditioning.
Foot well illumination
Gearshift knob in leather
Leather trimmed Multi-Function Steering wheel
Multi-Function Display Plus
Automatic Headlights with Coming/Leaving Home Function
Rain sensing Windscreen wipers

But you're still missing these features with the 77TDI/90TSI:
Radiator Grille highlights in Chrome
Alloy wheels (Cleveland) 16 x 6½" with 205/55 R16 tyres
Anti-theft wheel bolts
Rear seat centre armest with load through provision
'Black Pyramid' insert trim (instead of 'Titanium')
Chrome trim on steering wheel, headlight switch and front reading light surround
Rear Passenger Reading lights (2 instead of 1)
Shopping Bag hooks (in boot)
Storage box in side lining (in boot)
12 volt socket (in boot)
Comfort Front seats
Height adjustment for front passenger seats
Lumbar adjustment for front seats
Rear seat centre armrest and load through provision
Front seat backrest storage pockets
Illuminated on driver’s and passenger’s side
Better 6 speed 'wet clutch' DSG (103TDI only, instead of newer 'dry clutch' 7 speed DSG)
'Sports Package' not available

[flying_sheep]

Oh wow, I never expected that much response! Thank you for all you guys' help! :D

After some number crunching I think I can come up with another ~$1200. Will definitely be calling my dealer to ask if I can upgrade from 90 to 118 (no opt) for a total of $31200 or less. I know this is really pushing it but never hurts to ask right :)? Anyhow, I will for sure update y'all with any news.


-sheep

[nau]

Shopping Bag hooks (in boot)
damn thats a deal breaker :)

[G-rig]

Those curry hooks are very handy!

[Flighter]

I created a post agents ago to show the differences between the 77TDI / 90TDI Trendline Golfs, and the 103TDI / 118TSI Comfortline Golfs:

And don't forget you get a free supercharger "chirp" noise when you upgrade to a 118TSI. Well, with some of them anyway.

[Guest1306]

And don't forget you get a free supercharger "chirp" noise when you upgrade to a 118TSI. Well, with some of them anyway.

Did you get your car yet?

[NoFun]

I ordered a White GTI with DSG, tint and MDI back in February. It's currently at the docks in Melbourne and should be ready for me to pickup from the Sydney dealership in a week or two. The agreed on-road price was $44,040 which is a discount of around 9% which I am ok with.

I have today just discovered that I am eligible for a corporate discount. If I raise this with the dealer now, should I expect to get an additional discount, or is it too late in the game?

[flying_sheep]

Hey guys, bad news here... Turns out that the dealer will not be able to deliver this weekend... Apparently they couldnt get my car from another dealer in Brisbane area so they had to send one up from NSW... They wouldnt tell me whether the car is just rolling off the boat or it has been sitting in NSW for a few months but they assured that its gonna be a 2010 build. And they cant tell me when the delivery date is until sometimes next week.... I know a week of delay is nothing comparing to some others in the forum but I just dont like being in the unknown.

I was SO excited to drive it this weekend too...

[SilvrFoxX]

I ordered a White GTI with DSG, tint and MDI back in February. It's currently at the docks in Melbourne and should be ready for me to pickup from the Sydney dealership in a week or two. The agreed on-road price was $44,040 which is a discount of around 9% which I am ok with.

I have today just discovered that I am eligible for a corporate discount. If I raise this with the dealer now, should I expect to get an additional discount, or is it too late in the game?

I wouldnt expect so.. you can try they might recut the quote but the question is " have you already put down a deposit.?"