What brand oil and oil filter?

[hiho]

Hello all,

what brand oil filter should I use with my 1.5? Also, what brand oil? Tis due for a change.

Thanks
Matt

[gldgti]

use an OEM filter (hengst, etc). the oem ones are longer have much larger filter area. the general part number is z89A

i recommend penrite hpr diesel 20w-60 for use in hte old 1.5 - i always got best results with it.

[Greg Roles]

In your shoes I'd also be going Penrite. Their website has a great oil recommender-er. If I didn't need this 507 high shear stuff and have a easily ash blocked DPF I'd be penriting the TDI now.

[gldgti]

In your shoes I'd also be going Penrite. Their website has a great oil recommender-er. If I didn't need this 507 high shear stuff and have a easily ash blocked DPF I'd be penriting the TDI now.

penrite have a 507.00 approved oil... its called HPR enviro-thingamabob :-)

[IBN]

Yep, that's the one - Enviro+ 5W-30. For all those poor folk with DPFs. Running it now.

[Greg Roles]

Cool, thanks for the lead, I'll get onto some!

[Greg Roles]

Costs about the same as the "real" stuff from VW! I paid $70...bugger!

[peedman]

I looked into oils only a few days ago. Heres a great faq for tdi owners:

http://www.tdiclub.com/TDIFAQ/TDiFAQ-4.html

for pre tdi diesel motors i believe the oil needed is 505.00

ps: mobil 1 delvac is approx $99 and redline is $150+

[gldgti]

taken from that link:

"In warm weather, a good-quality non-synthetic oil meant for diesel engines with CG-4 or CH-4 ratings may be used. They're not suitable in cold weather due to reduced cold-pumping properties, and it's prudent to shorten the oil change interval because non-synthetic oils may not resist breakdown at high temperatures as well as the synthetic oils (remember that turbocharger). These oils are much easier to find. These include:
Mobil Delvac 1300, 15w40
Shell Rotella T, 15w40
Chevron Delo 400, 15w40"

in other words, in a warmer climate like here in australia (generally), a good quality diesel rated 15W oil is a sensible choice. this is why i use the penrite.

i'm considering changing to the fully synthetic penrite for the winter though...

[Transporter]

taken from that link:

"In warm weather, a good-quality non-synthetic oil meant for diesel engines with CG-4 or CH-4 ratings may be used. They're not suitable in cold weather due to reduced cold-pumping properties, and it's prudent to shorten the oil change interval because non-synthetic oils may not resist breakdown at high temperatures as well as the synthetic oils (remember that turbocharger). These oils are much easier to find. These include:
Mobil Delvac 1300, 15w40
Shell Rotella T, 15w40
Chevron Delo 400, 15w40"

in other words, in a warmer climate like here in australia (generally), a good quality diesel rated 15W oil is a sensible choice. this is why i use the penrite.

i'm considering changing to the fully synthetic penrite for the winter though...

Did you consider Amsoil Marine and Diesel oil 15W40 ?

[peedman]

That amsoil oil isnt properly rated, the only amsoil ones are 5w-40 Synthetic European which is $18 per quart or the 10w-40 high performance which is $90 for 5L.

[gldgti]

where do you get amsoil off the shelf?

[Transporter]

where do you get amsoil off the shelf?

Distributors only. There is no Amsoil on the shelves.
Look in the White Pages or Yellow Pages.
I buy some of Amsoil products.
Amsoil Power Foam cleans the combustion like nothing on the market, Cetane Improver is good, Engine Flush is excellent, P.I. petrol additive is average.
Amsoil oils are well priced if you compare them to oils available from shops.

[benough]

Is cetane improver like an octane boost thing for petrol motors?

What's it worth?

[Transporter]

Is cetane improver like an octane boost thing for petrol motors?

What's it worth?

Yes, but don't expect that it will increase the performance too much.

[gldgti]

I bought 10L of Penrite HPR Diesel 5W-40 fully synthetic today for $87. Changed the oil and immediately notice that the engine is quieter and smoother. (always have used the 15W-50 semi synthetic before now).

I note on the back that it conforms to CI-4 (supercedes CH-4). a look on the penrite website (a very good webiste i have to say) shows that the HPR diesel 5 covers VW 506.01 standards - but the ash content clearly means it doesnt qualify for DPF fitted vehicles. therefore you use the enviro+ one.

Further to hiho's original post - i think the 15w50 would be great for the old non-turbo diesel aswell, proving your seals are all up to scratch.

[Transporter]

I bought 10L of Penrite HPR Diesel 5W-40 fully synthetic today for $87. Changed the oil and immediately notice that the engine is quieter and smoother. (always have used the 15W-50 semi synthetic before now).

I note on the back that it conforms to CI-4 (supercedes CH-4). a look on the penrite website (a very good webiste i have to say) shows that the HPR diesel 5 covers VW 506.01 standards - but the ash content clearly means it doesnt qualify for DPF fitted vehicles. therefore you use the enviro+ one.

Further to hiho's original post - i think the 15w50 would be great for the old non-turbo diesel aswell, proving your seals are all up to scratch.

Would you know if it is approved by VW for 506.01 or it only says it could be used where 506.01 is required?

Just off topic, I changed oil yesterday in my T5 and put Liquid Moly EngineProtect in the oil and noticed the engine runs more freely now, especially during take off.

P.S. Just checked Penrite website HPR5W-40 Diesel is not approved for VW506.01 their Specs sheet says "MEET" which doesn't mean Approved (also means it could pass in VW test if they submit sample to VW for approval).

[gldgti]

Would you know if it is approved by VW for 506.01 or it only says it could be used where 506.01 is required?

Just off topic, I changed oil yesterday in my T5 and put Liquid Moly EngineProtect in the oil and noticed the engine runs more freely now, especially during take off.

P.S. Just checked Penrite website HPR5W-40 Diesel is not approved for VW506.01 their Specs sheet says "MEET" which doesn't mean Approved (also means it could pass in VW test if they submit sample to VW for approval).

yeah - the difference between 'meet' and 'approved' are important to note i guess. it's not surprising that it isnt 'approved' however, since penrite, on the world scene, is such a small player - and that its an aussie based company.

well, i'm not too worried - the sticker on my rocker cover says "use only oils that comply with VW standard 505.00"

i think to comply is to meet :-)

[jacob_1987]

I looked into oils only a few days ago. Heres a great faq for tdi owners:

ps: mobil 1 delvac is approx $99 and redline is $150+

I'm running the Penrite Enviro (5W-30W) atm and yeah it's great oil but I was looking for Mobil 1 but there's not a single place I could find. Also I picked up Penrite Enviro for $75.00 from a local distributor. Do you know anywhere in Sydney to buy Mobil 1.

I've tried alot of oils including Nulon, Shell & Penrite... so far penrite has proven the best, including better consumption (it's petty but feasible over the long run). Just need to wait for the verdict after 7500 km's. Oh that on a 1.9 tdi (vw 505.01)

[Transporter]

I'm running the Penrite Enviro (5W-30W) atm and yeah it's great oil but I was looking for Mobil 1 but there's not a single place I could find. Also I picked up Penrite Enviro for $75.00 from a local distributor. Do you know anywhere in Sydney to buy Mobil 1.

I've tried alot of oils including Nulon, Shell & Penrite... so far penrite has proven the best, including better consumption (it's petty but feasible over the long run). Just need to wait for the verdict after 7500 km's. Oh that on a 1.9 tdi (vw 505.01)

Find Mobil1 in the white pages and ring them for local distributor.

[stormshark]

Find Mobil1 in the white pages and ring them for local distributor.

Mmm- i rang their Technical dept yesterday, they referred me to any Repco, Repco first said,this goes to workshops only, then rang back and said they could get me one from a country area, i asked is this their refinery,No-one 20l drum from another retail shop left over at $380! I smell a rat!?

[Transporter]

Mmm- i rang their Technical dept yesterday, they referred me to any Repco, Repco first said,this goes to workshops only, then rang back and said they could get me one from a country area, i asked is this their refinery,No-one 20l drum from another retail shop left over at $380! I smell a rat!?

Must be more distributors than Repco only. Repco puts huge margin on everything they sell, don't buy it for that price. Ring Mobil again and ask for more distributors or all distributors and shop around.

[stormshark]

Must be more distributors than Repco only. Repco puts huge margin on everything they sell, don't buy it for that price. Ring Mobil again and ask for more distributors or all distributors and shop around.

Thanks will do- or failing mobil success my reasonably local autobahn have now said they can get me the Penrite Enviro 507 stuff

[bluey]

Is cetane improver like an octane boost thing for petrol motors?

What's it worth?

Cetane improver reduces smoke and reduces diesel clatter. It's worth the difference in price between BP Ultimate or Caltex Vortex Diesel and standard diesel.

Probably worth more if you have a DPF, since less smoke should mean less DPF clogging.

[hiho]

Does any of this apply to the 1.5 IDI?

[bluey]

Does any of this apply to the 1.5 IDI?

If you're talking cetane, it affects the combustion process and therefore is relevant to *any* engine that uses diesel fuel.

[hiho]

Whats cetane got to do with sump oil? I know my golf will run on it, but i prefer it when it doesnt.

[Greg Roles]

You almost need a high cetane engine oil with the sheer amount that gets ingested from the blowby...:duh: