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JET-28L
16-12-2006, 09:00 PM
my new golf but im going to b spraying it orange and getting black wheels with either orange or red interior not sure yet and a lil mods liek full exhaust cold air intake microtech computer and maybe cams if i have money :P oh and my rims and plates are for sale so if anyone is interested pm me or call me on 0413 051 512. lol and does anyone no if i could beat a GTI ( the turbo golfs)

rayray086
17-12-2006, 01:10 AM
It's soooo white. And it's good you're getting new rims!

JET-28L
17-12-2006, 01:37 AM
yeh ill try get black light wieght rims for it 17''

DubSteve
17-12-2006, 04:08 PM
Doesnt look to bad Alot of white thats for sure lol.

As for beating a GTI the new ones no. Stock standard Mk4's without any chips yes... But it also depends how you drive the car.

DUBING
17-12-2006, 06:39 PM
i think chiped mk4's you migh have a chance...:) a very good chance... :) and demolish stock ones...j:

JET-28L
17-12-2006, 10:05 PM
i think i can blow gti's coz the vr6's have more torque dont they

DUBING
17-12-2006, 10:36 PM
i think i can blow gti's coz the vr6's have more torque dont they
and power, 128kw vs 110kw

JET-28L
17-12-2006, 10:42 PM
who ever reads this post can neone tell me when is there gonna be a very big vr6 cruise ( or we could organise one )

ryan_GTI
18-12-2006, 12:15 AM
vr6 sounds absolutely porn mate - nice car

noobish question from a polo owner, but does a chipped vr6 respond aswell as the gti models? it would be a blast if it did...

DubSteve
18-12-2006, 08:53 AM
vr6 sounds absolutely porn mate - nice car

noobish question from a polo owner, but does a chipped vr6 respond aswell as the gti models? it would be a blast if it did...

No not really you get a increase of 8-12bhp and not much at all and for the money no.

[QUOTE=TIGAR]who ever reads this post can neone tell me when is there gonna be a very big vr6 cruise ( or we could organise one )QUOTE]

Have a look at the Cruise, Meet section of the forum we are organising a track day for January some time. There aren't many of us running around in vr6's these days.

I have PM you about a meet up.

JET-28L
19-12-2006, 12:25 AM
for the money use would spend on a chip i rekon it would be alot more worht it that u spend ur money on a microtech computer for it (anyone second that)

golf3
19-12-2006, 07:22 AM
As far as my limited knowledge on chip tuning a vr6, you can't just buy any old chip from the states thats OBD or whatever, because that doesn't exist in Australia.
Chip tuning on turbo cars allows for much greater adjustment and improvement as they are tuned cautiously from the factory... Adjust the timing, boost, this that, the other, and presto, you have power... (In layman's terms)
After market ecu's can get expensive, and it depends on who does the work...
I went to get a quote on a Autronic SMC the other day...
Unit - $1910 inlc. GST
Assorted Sensors - $500
Dyno Tuning - $500
I install it, get it running, and then the professional gets it right. From there, i go turbo, and get it retuned if need be..

So around $3000
But for drive in drive out, I was quoted $4500 for a VR6...

Also, be cautious of who does your work! Some systems don't come with base maps for some motors. Don't be stooged! Do your research!

DubSteve
19-12-2006, 07:31 AM
Wise words there Sean. I was thinking about a aftermarket one aswell. I got quoted $800 for a GIAC one. Static has got the wolf 3D would that do any good? I know that they are expensive but I'm sure that they are worth it.

JET-28L
19-12-2006, 08:29 PM
i was speaking to one of my mates he quoeted me for a APEXI POWER FC HAND HELD CONRTOLLER tuned for a rx7 was 1500 just wondering if ne one could tell weatehr tunning a golf would be more expensive then tuning a rx7 and if the APEXI would be ok for my vr6

Golfer
20-12-2006, 12:06 AM
Hmmmm.... You could always get an Oettinger engine tune if ur cashed up. It would be my choice of performance mods for a VR6 when (if) i get one...

http://www.oettinger.com.au/oau_vwgolf3_et.html

Check it out - 147KW, 259NM!!!!!!!!!!
Modified air intake tract
Modified intake manifold
Oettinger exhaust components
Dual Oettinger cams
Recalibrated engine management system

If that doesn't get ur blood boiling... j:

Cheers
John:cool:

Golf Loon
20-12-2006, 06:01 AM
and power, 128kw vs 110kw

130kw at the flywheel for a VR6, which is 100kw at the wheels, as opposed to 110kw atw for the POLO. And the polo is lighter.

In my VR6 Ibiza, which had Microtech fuel injection, I had 100kw atw, on the dyno, which is 133hp and I ran the quarter in 15.2. The car was lighter than a Mk3 VR6 too.

Blokes on here are running sub 15s for the quarter mile in their POLOs with a chip flash! VR6 makes a better noise, Polo would use less fuel.

Rather than chipping a VR6, there are lots of aftermarket fuel computers made in Australia which you can use. And which then allow you to change settings if you get a turbo or other mods.

I wasn`t that impressed with Microtech, but JEM Just Engine Management at Liverpool quoted me $2000 to supply, fit and dyno tune a Haltech system. They basically need the car for a few days and will make a loom to suit.

DubSteve
20-12-2006, 08:09 AM
Damn thats alot cause I was hoping that I could chip it or something to mine. But I think that will be the second last mod of mine. the last being the turbo lol.

worm
20-12-2006, 09:10 AM
WOW, those little polo's are rockets.

Golfer
20-12-2006, 10:24 AM
130kw at the flywheel for a VR6, which is 100kw at the wheels, as opposed to 110kw atw for the POLO. And the polo is lighter.


Ummm... The power figures are sure in the favour of the Polo, but the kerb weight of the Polo is 1265Kg compared to the VR6's 1207Kg Kerb weight. Then you have to remember that there are two completely different driving styles between these two cars (one mini turbo dunger vs torque on tap 6 cyl) and that there is $20,000 price parity between them. And Noone in their right mind would lighten a brand new Polo, whereas i prolly wouldn't think twice of chucking rear seats, trim, carpet out of a 10G vr6 and bringing the weight down to 1100Kg...

Sure enough you could get a massively enjoyable ride out of both Dubbers.

Just depends where you want to spend your money i think? :?

Cheers
John:cool:

Tim
20-12-2006, 10:31 AM
all us vr6 drivers need to cut the crap and start bolting on turbos i think :D ! Just to make the competition even :P . Its cheating if u guys just crank up the boost!

But yeah re: weight. When my car was on the corner scales it weighed in at 1210kgs with the rear seats and carpet and stuff stripped out and the rear suitcase muffler deleted. I also had most of a tank of petrol.

JET-28L
21-12-2006, 04:14 AM
cant drive turbo champ ( the new turbo rule) thats y im gonna N/A tune it

DubSteve
21-12-2006, 09:16 AM
When did you get your P's wasnt it just last year that they changed it? Or does this apply to all P Platers?

Water Boy
21-12-2006, 10:29 AM
Go a UNIChip... They are very well price and great for an increase in power...

www.airpowersystems.com.au/unichip/applications.html

Cheers

rayray086
21-12-2006, 11:02 AM
When did you get your P's wasnt it just last year that they changed it? Or does this apply to all P Platers?

July 2005 I think. Those that get their reds after July 2005 would be under that rule. Those that got their reds before July 2005, but got their greens after that are exempted.

DUBING
21-12-2006, 01:41 PM
Just get a chip, if I was u get one I would get Giac, seb aka bug_racer supply’s and installs them..:)

SoVeReIgN
21-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Ah whats all this talk about Vr6s having so much more torque than 1.8ts.

The little 1.8t has a much bigger powerband than the 2.8L stock(210nm@1850rpm vs 235nm@4000~), and when chipped they have alot more torque from alot lower than the v6.

So, when it comes down to it, street/strip performance

Stock for Stock = Vr6
Both Chipped = 1.8T (a3 or golf OR polo)

JET-28L
21-12-2006, 01:54 PM
When did you get your P's wasnt it just last year that they changed it? Or does this apply to all P Platers?
i got em in may 2006 im a young vr6 owner :D

DUBING
21-12-2006, 02:11 PM
Ah whats all this talk about Vr6s having so much more torque than 1.8ts.

The little 1.8t has a much bigger powerband than the 2.8L stock(210nm@1850rpm vs 235nm@4000~), and when chipped they have alot more torque from alot lower than the v6.

So, when it comes down to it, street/strip performance

Stock for Stock = Vr6
Both Chipped = 1.8T (a3 or golf OR polo)


true true, 1.8T+Software = Can't Lose! but Vr6+ more cash, cams, chip, exhaust or maybe even Turbo = sweetness

if you got the money, people in the states have all motor vr6’s running 12’s.

DubSteve
21-12-2006, 05:29 PM
true true, 1.8T+Software = Can't Lose! but Vr6+ more cash, cams, chip, exhaust or maybe even Turbo = sweetness

if you got the money, people in the states have all motor vr6’s running 12’s.

They also have big turbos sitting in there engine bay and also alot of money and work done to them.

s14s2a
21-12-2006, 09:15 PM
cant drive turbo champ ( the new turbo rule) thats y im gonna N/A tune it

Hey did you buy the VR6 off car sales ??

And you live in Hurstville don't you? Ive seen your car around on a certain street... I live on the same street (MkIV GTI).

Good purchase, and don't let Igor (DUBBIN) tell you that VR6s are the fastest... he knows the 1.8Ts are the best ;)

JET-28L
21-12-2006, 09:52 PM
Hey did you buy the VR6 off car sales ??

And you live in Hurstville don't you? Ive seen your car around on a certain street... I live on the same street (MkIV GTI).

Good purchase, and don't let Igor (DUBBIN) tell you that VR6s are the fastest... he knows the 1.8Ts are the best ;)
yeh i did a str8 swap for a integra

JET-28L
22-12-2006, 12:40 AM
yeh i did a str8 swap for a integra
i live on dora s.t and dw ill take on any gti i dont care lol

DUBING
22-12-2006, 11:31 AM
They also have big turbos sitting in there engine bay and also alot of money and work done to them.

all motor = N/A (Naturally aspirated) non turbo



if you got the money

DUBING
22-12-2006, 11:35 AM
Good purchase, and don't let Igor (DUBBIN) tell you that VR6s are the fastest... he knows the 1.8Ts are the best ;)

haha you still lurk these forums, i though you sold you GTi, mmmm that was a nice looking GTi. :) Nice how you notice a VR6 on carsales, is someone maybe looking for a vr6:D


1.8T+software = Can't lose :)

JET-28L
22-12-2006, 11:41 AM
haha you still lurk these forums, i though you sold you GTi, mmmm that was a nice looking GTi. :) Nice how you notice a VR6 on carsales, is someone maybe looking for a vr6:D


1.8T+software = Can't lose :)

everyone should buy a vr6 or nething similiar to it like r32's igor what nasho r u im maso

DUBING
22-12-2006, 11:43 AM
everyone should buy a vr6 or nething similiar to it like r32's igor what nasho r u im maso

half serb / half croat :)

JET-28L
22-12-2006, 11:51 AM
half serb / half croat :)

im part serb 3/4 maso 1/4 serb why u selling ur vr6 beh ?

DUBING
22-12-2006, 12:03 PM
im part serb 3/4 maso 1/4 serb why u selling ur vr6 beh ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/skibum525/1417313386_l.jpg

1.8T can't lose...:) although i wish aus got mk4's vr6

worm
22-12-2006, 12:17 PM
Am I the only one having trouble understanding what people in here are saying?
A little punctuation and correct spelling would be nice.

JET-28L
22-12-2006, 12:22 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/

1.8T cant lose...:) although i wish aus got mk4's vr6
i might aswell buy a mk4 r32 instead of the gti vr6 mk4

WABIT
22-12-2006, 02:06 PM
Am I the only one having trouble understanding what people in here are saying?
A little punctuation and correct spelling would be nice.

no your not.....

da topikz lokin abt lik diz yea?... i dun no watz im redn

wabit ;)

WABIT
22-12-2006, 02:08 PM
hey dude what color orange are you gonna do it???

wabit

JET-28L
22-12-2006, 02:12 PM
hey dude what color orange are you gonna do it???

wabit
i wanted to do it like the orange u eat that colour lol but people on this forum brain washed me :D and made me spray it white with a silver through it cause this way i dont hav to spray in and out

DubSteve
22-12-2006, 03:33 PM
everyone should buy a vr6 or nething similiar to it like r32's igor what nasho r u im maso

Zdravo Kakosi? Dobra den!! CHISTO!!!!! lol

Igor don't sell your vr6 not worth the heartache. lol

JET-28L
22-12-2006, 08:32 PM
Zdravo Kakosi? Dobra den!! CHISTO!!!!! lol

Igor don't sell your vr6 not worth the heartache. lol
dobar ti kakosi ?

DubSteve
22-12-2006, 08:35 PM
dobar ti kakosi ?

Chisto lol

Golfer
22-12-2006, 10:56 PM
Pozašto puno hrvatski jezik ovdje? Mi smo svi Australianac! LOL... Sorry my Serbo-Croatian is kinda, well, crap j:...

Živoli!!!
John :cool:

s14s2a
22-12-2006, 10:57 PM
haha you still lurk these forums, i though you sold you GTi, mmmm that was a nice looking GTi. :) Nice how you notice a VR6 on carsales, is someone maybe looking for a vr6:D


1.8T+software = Can't lose :)

Haha yep still around, Still have the GTI and its still nice looking I hope!!!. Actually just replaced the strut top mounts tonight! What a job!
We should catch up and go for a drive or something??? Get a few of the other sydney people together??

and why am I checking out VR6s on carsales... always had a soft spot for them, still do.(Part of my plan to one day have one of each- sweet) Like this, but all GTIs if possible(with the MkI and II)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/12/golfgeneration-1.jpg


So why you selling yours??? Still dreaming of your old Clio?

Golfer
22-12-2006, 11:04 PM
My ignorance, i didn't even know there was a mk4 gti vr6... Does anybody have any info on these cars. Would be a good read! How did they line up against the R32?

Cheers
John :cool:

s14s2a
22-12-2006, 11:08 PM
My ignorance, i didn't even know there was a mk4 gti vr6... Does anybody have any info on these cars. Would be a good read! How did they line up against the R32?

Cheers
John :cool:

Yeah the MKIV VR6 is quite popular in the states (inc the MKIV jetta VR6)
They also get the uprated VR6 engine with the 24 valve head!!!! Similar to the .:R32!!

Golfer
22-12-2006, 11:12 PM
:D Sounds horn...

Shame they're not here in Oz...

DUBING
22-12-2006, 11:42 PM
Haha yep still around, Still have the GTI and its still nice looking I hope!!!. Actually just replaced the strut top mounts tonight! What a job!
We should catch up and go for a drive or something??? Get a few of the other sydney people together??

and why am I checking out VR6s on carsales... always had a soft spot for them, still do.(Part of my plan to one day have one of each- sweet) Like this, but all GTIs if possible(with the MkI and II)
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/12/golfgeneration-1.jpg


So why you selling yours??? Still dreaming of your old Clio?
haha nah nah, there is a new Clio sport in the family, i had big plans for the car, but unfortunately I m still a student, and its time to upgrade… when I finish my degree, I plan to get a 3door vr6, and do the lot….

DUBING
22-12-2006, 11:44 PM
Pozašto puno hrvatski jezik ovdje? Mi smo svi Australianac! LOL... Sorry my Serbo-Croatian is kinda, well, crap j:...

Živoli!!!
John :cool:


hah that's very good John... :) are you any part croatian..?

Golfer
22-12-2006, 11:46 PM
Nah, I'm a Skip, but my fiancee is part Crna Gorac, and her and her mum talk half and half eng + serbo-cro at home and I have had to learn to keep up. My grammar sucks though :?