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Jase
07-05-2009, 01:50 PM
Hi, my first post here but lurked for a while. Great site. Picked up my 2009 Jetta from the dealership yesterday. Very schmick.

Now I was a bit surprised it had both front & rear parking sensors - both radars show up on the RCD310. Sales bloke reckons factory threw the front ones in "for free" and they were a bit surprised too (VW up-specing the last of the MK5 Jetta production runs?). I'm thinking bonus :biggrin: Thought I had to upsize to the Passat for all that.

On a few other notes, DSG works like a charm (fingers crossed it stays that way and sure the latest software / hardware helps) and noticed the turbo lag isn't so bad in the CR compared to the PD I drove in December.

Now the euro switch seems to have been altered as it can only be pulled out once (activating both front and rear at same time). :duh:
Also it can be pulled out only with the full headlights on, so not on auto or parkers. It definitely cannot be pulled out on any of the other settings. This is a pest I reckon as xenons may reflect off fog and I'd like it if the fogs worked only with the parkers on. I'm pretty sure the demo I drove last year worked with parkers. Would it be "VAGCOMable" that when I pulled the foggies on the xenons turned off?

maca
07-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Congrats on the new car.. You're gonna love the Jetta :)

That switch doesn't sound too right... Every VW i've seen in my life has had the option of having only front fogs on, and at any setting (Auto, park and main). It could be a new thing but not even the Mk6 I got last week as a loan didn't have that...

Post some pics! It's required when you get a new car :D

isaw
07-05-2009, 03:11 PM
Congrats on the new car.. You're gonna love the Jetta :)

That switch doesn't sound too right... Every VW i've seen in my life has had the option of having only front fogs on, and at any setting (Auto, park and main). It could be a new thing but not even the Mk6 I got last week as a loan didn't have that...

Post some pics! It's required when you get a new car :D

MY euro switch only allows fogs when either the parkers or low beams are on. you cant turn them on with its in auto mode, and none of the other Golf GTI's I've been in allow it either. Bit strange to the OP about not being allowed when the parkers are on tho, and i dont think it'd be vag-com'able as its the switch its self that stops you... maybe another aftermarket switch?

ps. you should be :driver:

Jase
07-05-2009, 05:10 PM
It's most definitely a different switch than I thought would have been there. I thought it would have been one pull = front fogs or two pulls = front and rear. And can only be pulled when lowbeam is selected. Totally different switch which is a bit odd but nothing to get too excited about - can always change it I suppose!? There would be occasions when you may want the front fogs on but not the back (think Excel) so I don't know which bright spark at Vdub thought of that.

I'll post some pics by the next day or so - of car & switch.

When I drove it home yesterday it should have been a 1.5hr trip back home. Wife was happy to drive the ol' EA back home and wondered why it took me 3hrs in the Jetta. Ha ha. :driver:

anthony
07-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Congratulations on the new Jetta,you really are going to love it.
I think you got the new colour,as the previous Red was more of a Burgandy.
I am waiting to see the photos.

bazzle
08-05-2009, 05:12 AM
Welldone :)

Have aread of the handbook to see what it says re fogs, but, it doesnt sound right.

Bazzle

les88
08-05-2009, 07:38 AM
the rear fog light should be independently switched. when I first used mine the people behind me flashed their lights, on checking the fog light is very bright. so now I rarely use it.
les

maca
08-05-2009, 01:45 PM
the rear fog light should be independently switched. when I first used mine the people behind me flashed their lights, on checking the fog light is very bright. so now I rarely use it.
les

Yeah, the rears are only meant to be used in.. FOG! haha.


Or road rage encounters j:

faisan
08-05-2009, 03:04 PM
:pics:

I wanna see the front sensors!

maca
08-05-2009, 03:57 PM
:pics:

I wanna see the front sensors!

I second that motion

jettapilot
08-05-2009, 07:44 PM
YOU GOT RED!!!!!

I am soooo P****d off!

I wanted red and the Spice Red wasn't available any more and now 2 months later there's another red! :brutal::duh::frown::drinkbeer:

I hate VW's total lack of imagination with colours.

It was the same when I bought my mk4 golf - grey, black, white, silver and navy!

Boring, boring, boring!

I might never get over this. it'e nough to make me go trade in for Tiguan in BRIGHT BLUE!

Jase
08-05-2009, 10:18 PM
Not enough time in the day to get pics done today. Got a day off tomorrow so will do it then. The Jetta is amazing, especially compared to my 20 year old Ford. The attention to detail and technology is always a pleasent surprise. Perhaps a bad example but for instance I'm not very into the idea of auto wipers (reckon it's a little gimicky) but had them on today and I couldn't fault them. Fantastic. Now clocked up 650 clicks in 3 days and loving it.

Manual says fogs should have two pulls and be able to work on the parkers. Might ask the dealer down the track what's the G-O.

Glad to hear others interest in red, because I've hardly seen any. I was keen to get a colour, rather than a shade so-to-speak. So it was going to be salsa red or (?biscay?) blue. The salsa is a nice deep red. It's not metallic at all (I don't mind "normal" paint). Demo I drove in December was the metallic spice - as you said bergundy - and that was quite nice. I would be happy with either red. Pics tommorow. Promise:)

anthony
08-05-2009, 10:43 PM
Karen,dont worry.
I still think that the Graphite Blus suits the Jetta best.
I got Reflex Silver as I am a huge fan of Silver VWs,think it is a classic colour,which is easy to keep clean,always looks smart,and does not show the little scratches...
My family begged me to get the Graphite,but I said NO WAYS...

jettapilot
09-05-2009, 08:15 AM
The blue does need more frequent cleaning to look its best.
I hardly ever washed my silver.

Jase
09-05-2009, 11:00 AM
I could see how silver would be one of the better colours for not showing half the crud that gets on your car just by driving it around.

Here are the first pics, one of the front sensors and one of the light switch.

Who here thinks I got duped with the wrong light switch, as in one that would normally be installed on a car with no front fogs?

Maverick
09-05-2009, 11:36 AM
It's the wrong switch. Takes 30 seconds to swap for the correct one but may require some coding changes (maybe not as the front fogs may always operate when the rear fogs are on).

Jase
09-05-2009, 01:08 PM
Thanks for your advice Mav that it's the wrong one.

Makes sense because looked up on VicRoads' website and it states that rear fog lamps shall be switched separately to front fog lamps. Sent an email to the sales consultant and I'll call them on Monday. Hopefully they'll agree there is a problem and change the switch over at the complimentary 3K service).

Here's a few pics of the rest of the car. I reckon the sun lightens it up a bit. Those that wanted red...looks like I've got a bounty on my head now! :nana:

anthony
09-05-2009, 09:44 PM
The Jetta looks very sporty in Red.
I saw a lot of them in America last year in this colour,but most of them were the GLI model.
What a step up from an old Falcon,you must be loving it.

maca
10-05-2009, 12:14 AM
Very nice car! Yeah that's the switch I have on my Jetta (no front fogs)!


Talk to the dealer - they have to change it. VW's obviously made a mistake with the car and make sure they're the ones who fix it.. Don't attempt anything considering the car's brand new :) And don't fall for the free sensors compensating this error, either!

faisan
10-05-2009, 02:22 AM
hey at least you got front sensors for free :)

Jase
15-05-2009, 11:20 AM
I happen to be in Shepparton next week so rang the service department at the dealer as there tis a few things to get looked at.

Get this...the plastic disc on the lower section of the seatbelt (to stop the buckle falling to the floor and hard to reach), well they must have run out of them the day they made my Jetta. The front passenger seatbelt doesn't have it and instead they've got a few inches of offcut seatbelt, folded it a couple of times (with a daggy bit of the end for good measure) and sewn it onto the seatbelt. Bizarre :duh: Looks dreadful but not something I noticed on pickup.

Anyway, about this headlight switch (? wrong one). Service bloke said even if it's the wrong switch they won't be able to replace it on the day as they have to write up a special ticket and get it approved for warranty work, then they order the part in and replace it. Does this sound right? The dealership is a 120km drive (one way) so it's a bit of a pest. Would emailing a photo be of any benefit so they could confirm it is the wrong switch before I get there? Got no idea if servicing even does email.

faisan
15-05-2009, 02:26 PM
Get this...the plastic disc on the lower section of the seatbelt (to stop the buckle falling to the floor and hard to reach), well they must have run out of them the day they made my Jetta. The front passenger seatbelt doesn't have it and instead they've got a few inches of offcut seatbelt, folded it a couple of times (with a daggy bit of the end for good measure) and sewn it onto the seatbelt. Bizarre :duh: Looks dreadful but not something I noticed on pickup.


Can you post a picture of this seat belt thing? sounds strange

Jase
15-05-2009, 03:08 PM
I'll take a happy snap of it this evening all being well.

I got worried at first as I thought they'd just bunched up a bit of the original seatbelt and sewn it into a lump but that's not the case. It's an extra bit of seatbelt that they've attached. It's only on the one seatbelt so it probably shouldn't be there. Dealership was surprised over the phone, and being on the front passenger seat it was only a matter of time before it got noticed.

I am not stoked about the dealer delivery (boot light was also knackered as the resister fell out of the connector - fixed temporarily with pliars). Mistakes or oversights happen I suppose.

Dubdabest
15-05-2009, 03:21 PM
Hmmm... sounds like lacking in QA (quality assurance) checks before your car leaving the factory :duh:

Jase
15-05-2009, 03:40 PM
Wrong switch, improvising...must have been a wild day or two at the factory! :drinkbeer:

You're right, fault of the factory rather than the dealer. Just thought they might have noticed that's all.

Jase
15-05-2009, 08:53 PM
Hope I didn't get carried away with too many angles. I'd be interested to know people's thoughts (preferably saying...yep, that's a bit dodgy :))

Jase
15-05-2009, 09:01 PM
And yeah, if anyones wondering that bit of extra seatbelt is on the "outer" side meaning it doesn't lie against you when you wear it...but the stitching is is fairly hardcore and that part of it digs into you when wearing it :crazy:

faisan
15-05-2009, 09:04 PM
Hope I didn't get carried away with too many angles. I'd be interested to know people's thoughts (preferably saying...yep, that's a bit dodgy :))

Ok I just had to go and check my Jetta and mine is exactly the same as yours! :eek::eek::eek: I have never sat in that seat so I never noticed.

Its the front passenger too and all the rest have the little plastic stopper instead.

Let me know what the dealer says.

heres the pic that Jase took for those who are too lazy to click on the attachments:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6917/frontpassengerbelt.jpg

Jase
15-05-2009, 09:25 PM
Argh! :confused: How odd!? It's getting looked at on Thursday and I'll certainly post a reply once I hear the official verdict.

maca
15-05-2009, 11:40 PM
And yeah, if anyones wondering that bit of extra seatbelt is on the "outer" side meaning it doesn't lie against you when you wear it...but the stitching is is fairly hardcore and that part of it digs into you when wearing it :crazy:

Strange though why no other seatbelts have it.. Why would that be?

Haha just had to go check mine and yeah, it's the same. Finish is pretty good though :)

BeigeJet
16-05-2009, 09:38 AM
Hope I didn't get carried away with too many angles. I'd be interested to know people's thoughts (preferably saying...yep, that's a bit dodgy :))

Jase,

For what it's worth my MY07 (Aug '06 build) Jetta has exactly the same selt belt on the front passenger side. All others, like yours have the plastic disc.

Bizarre!

I suspect it maybe something around the fact that most Jetta's go to the US (aka left hand drive market).

I'll have to re-read the hand book to see if there is anything in there.

I'll also be interested in the response you get.

Awaiting any info,

Cheers,

faisan
16-05-2009, 01:19 PM
Do any Golfs have this same issue or is it a Jetta only thing?

Dubdabest
17-05-2009, 01:52 AM
OMG my Jetta has the same spool thingy on the front passenger seatbelt instead of the plastic disc... probably it's standard issue on Jettas??

Have the car for 2.5 yrs and never noticed it :duh:

maca
17-05-2009, 02:36 AM
I suspect it maybe something around the fact that most Jetta's go to the US (aka left hand drive market).




In saying that though, pretty sure we get the UK spec when it comes to everything but the engine and a few options i.e. sensors, climate control etc.. (which are options over there)

Jase
18-05-2009, 10:01 AM
Well it seems like all mk5 Jettas have this seatbelt webbing attached. I dare say the dealer will go that's normal but we'll see. I couldn't imagine why on earth it is there though instead of a plastic disc. I'm also interested now if any Golfs have this also...

jettapilot
18-05-2009, 10:34 AM
Mine too!

This is too weird - even for VW.

I need to know why!

VW Convert
18-05-2009, 10:37 AM
Mine too!

This is too weird - even for VW.

I need to know why!

Ditto! LOL

Cheers

George

Jase
22-05-2009, 02:01 PM
Well went to the dealer yesterday...WHAT A SHAMOZLE!! Long post.

Dropped car off at 930am. Originally ready at 1pm. Drove back twice and left around 4pm!!!

First up, servicing department have never been asked before about the extra bit of seatbelt webbing on the front passenger side belt. Turns out, yes it is normal but they didn't know why so did a bit of checking. Actually turns out to be smart thinking / attention to detail: it is the only seat belt, that if not used, would BANG against the plastic trim near the B pillar. If there was a plastic disc it would go THUMP THUMP every so often where the seatbelt webbing is softer and makes no sound. Don't stress about it like I did.

After email photos of my current headlamp switch (1K0 941 431 REH) which is just for rear fogs they pre-ordered one for front fogs (1K0 941 431 A REH). In one minute they change the switch but front fogs don't light up on first pull. Said their auto elec will have to look at the wiring loom which I have to come back for! Damn. I said "it wouldn't be coding would it?" and they said "nup, wiring problem for sure". Hope their right. They think they might have originally wired the car as if there was no front fogs - they said sorry and understood why I wasn't flash about it.

On a couple of other matters, they've ordered two near door seals as I've been hearing air come into the car on the drivers and rear lefthand doors. They originally said they fixed it by tightening the doors - but 10mins out of the dealership I did a u-turn and said "umm, it's worse" so they drove it and confirmed air entry was still a problem.

Finally, dealership originally told me that when a trailer was fitted, the rear sensors would be disabled. I think a few members on here have clarified (factory fitted towbar = yes to that; dealer fitted = no). Well my dealership says should happen (car was factory built to spec after all). Of course it has never worked as they said so yesterday they "re-coded" part of it. Turns out afterwards they stuffed the whole sensors up including the radar display on the RCD310. Did another U'ey back to the dealer and 30mins later it's "fixed". Haven't tried it out yet but I am sceptical the sensors will be disabled with a trailer on-board especially as one of the techs said the towbar was fitted in Australia not at the factory. It's not difficult to push the parking sensor button but would be nice if it self-cancelled. We'll see.

maca
22-05-2009, 04:03 PM
First up, servicing department have never been asked before about the extra bit of seatbelt webbing on the front passenger side belt. Turns out, yes it is normal but they didn't know why so did a bit of checking. Actually turns out to be smart thinking / attention to detail: it is the only seat belt, that if not used, would BANG against the plastic trim near the B pillar. If there was a plastic disc it would go THUMP THUMP every so often where the seatbelt webbing is softer and makes no sound. Don't stress about it like I did.



No way... That's actually quite genius! :bowdown:

Jase
22-05-2009, 05:15 PM
I was pleasantly surprised. I actually spoke to someone today about it. They said they have a late-model Honda (don't know which one) and their front passenger belt buckle occasionally bangs against the trim and gives them the irits. Yes, hail to VW :bowdown:

maca
22-05-2009, 06:29 PM
I guess it's one of those little insignificant things (that we often say WTF to) that if our cars didn't have them.. We'd go nuts!!!

BeigeJet
22-05-2009, 09:15 PM
First up, servicing department have never been asked before about the extra bit of seatbelt webbing on the front passenger side belt. Turns out, yes it is normal but they didn't know why so did a bit of checking. Actually turns out to be smart thinking / attention to detail: it is the only seat belt, that if not used, would BANG against the plastic trim near the B pillar. If there was a plastic disc it would go THUMP THUMP every so often where the seatbelt webbing is softer and makes no sound. Don't stress about it like I did.

.

Well, that's quite thoughtful!. My Camry passenger belt bangs the trim it drives my batty when I occasionally drive it. I wondered why the Jetta was quiet (aside from the diesel tune of couse!) compared to the Camry!

Sorry to hear about all the other little shennigans though.

Cheers,

Neil.

faisan
23-05-2009, 02:39 AM
No way... That's actually quite genius! :bowdown:

Those Germans are clever arent they? :)

I will add this "feature" to the list of handy tid bits. Kinda like how the leather seats have cloth on the inside bolster to stop squeaking when it touches the plastic centre console.

jettapilot
23-05-2009, 08:47 AM
The Europeans are generally very good at simple design solutions. I've noticed this with household applianaces as well.
The Japanese would have designed a whole new seatbealt mechanism with dials and flashing lights.

maca
23-05-2009, 11:02 AM
The Europeans are generally very good at simple design solutions. I've noticed this with household applianaces as well.
The Japanese would have designed a whole new seatbealt mechanism with dials and flashing lights.
Don't forget they would've made it extra small and probably a Hybrid..

Dubdabest
23-05-2009, 11:32 AM
But it could still probably goes around the Nurburgring faster than a Porsche GT3 :biggrin: