looking for a great deal on a tiguan 103tdi

[tiguan_hunting]

Hi,

Newbie here.

I've finally convinced myself that I could live with a Tiguan for the next 10 years rather than a CR-V. Now the next thing to do is to get myself a fantastic deal.

Been reading the posts here and it seems that Sharkie has an opinion that there's plenty of TDIs around which is good as that's the one that I want.

So here's my specs:
103 TDI auto
Leather
Sunroof
Comfort pack
Rear parking sensors
Mats

The RRP without any negotiating was given to me at about $52,500 driveaway. Wow! Figured I get Tint Professor to put in the tint for me at $300 rather than giving VW $500 for the same.

So I said to the salesguy that I didn't want to waste my time or his time and ask what discount I could realistically get cos if I can't get it to my budget then I'll shop somewhere else. He responded by saying that he believe he could get it down to around $48,000 but he needed to check with his manager and I can't quote him on that.

Been looking around in www.carsales.com.au and found that $46,000 would be a good deal.

Has anyone recently bought one with similar specs and what sort of prices did you pay? Also did anyone sign up for leather protection, paint protection etc ?

Most people tell me that it's a rip off and I shouldn't bother. I could get similar DYI products and save a fortune.

I took the opportunity to insist to speak to the after-sales lady and she gave me ball park figure of $2000 for leather and paint protection including tinting and reverse parking sensors. So working it out that’s about $700 for the leather and paint proection. Not sure whether rust protection is included but then again, does VW make such lousy cars until we need to go get rust protection as well?

Looking forward to hear anyones comments/purchases!

Thanks.

[Sanman]

Hi -
1. Make sure you are eligible for fleet pricing worth $3k - not hard to get, esp these days: sign up your work (no obligation, just a form to forge, I mean fill in), or if they are already in it, sign a form to confirm you are an employee.
2. Consider Park Assist for $1400. This is both front and rear sensors. I am suspicious your quote includes dealer rather than factory fitted fitted sensors
3. Don't buy any dealership add ons. Vehicles are properly rust protected. Actually, they drill holes to put in their spray goo, which exposes the vehicle to rust. The goo can jam up mechanisms. Don't do it. The leather is fine from factory for a year or two. Leather conditioning is an ongoing thing. Buy the conditioners and apply regularly.
4. Given your questions, you sound as if you would be better off using a car broker to negotiate a deal. At minimum, expect "on-road" for RRP. Stretch for 5% better than this.

[NZTiguan]

Buy close to the end of a month. Sales staff get increasing commission the more they sell during the month so their last sales in each month are worth more to them than the first, so generally they're more prepared to deal then.

You should also be able to get a much better deal on one that's already in the Country and ready to go rather than one specifically built for you. We picked the best of those that were already in NZ and those already on the way (ours was already produced and awaiting shipment to NZ at the time) and got a better deal than if we'd waited BUT when we bought ours they were VERY hard to get at all so the deals weren't as good as they are now.

Cheers

[tiguan_hunting]

Thanks for your responses Sanman and Derek.

They said I could choose between a dealer fitted or factory fitted reverse sensors for the same price i.e. $800. The difference being the dealer fitted one had an LCD display to show how far objects are and the factory fitted only had audible sounds.

I don't really need Park Assist. Never had issues with parallel parking but if they do come with front and rear sensors that might help as vision isn't the best especially in the rear.

[brh1978]

Thanks for your responses Sanman and Derek.

They said I could choose between a dealer fitted or factory fitted reverse sensors for the same price i.e. $800. The difference being the dealer fitted one had an LCD display to show how far objects are and the factory fitted only had audible sounds.

I don't really need Park Assist. Never had issues with parallel parking but if they do come with front and rear sensors that might help as vision isn't the best especially in the rear.

Just to let you know...I don't think there is a factory fitted rear parking sensor only, I'm pretty sure they stopped doing that last year, I think your dealer is wrong. The factory only fits the park assist and IMHO it is worth it, if you get the RCD510 radio system (Dynaudio) the onscreen display is awesome even if you don't use the auto park feature.

The screen on the standard RCD-310 radio in the TDI is very small and basic and not colour like the RCD510, the park assist sensors still show up but it doesn't look as good. I would double confirm if the dealers sensors appear on the radio screen, the TDI's I drove with dealer fitted sensors only beeped!

Also if you are thinking of using an iPod in the car get the factory fitted MDI, it is way cheaper and safer to have it fitted in the factory than by the dealer (as they need to pull your dash and centre console apart to fit it). The dealer will charge heaps to fit the MDI aftermarket (double the factory price).

I used Lexol cleaner and conditioner on my leather seats, great products (recommended on the Vortex Forum), non greasy and keeps the matt finish of the leather (both bottles for $50 delivered), keep it up every 2-3 months and you'll have beautiful leather for years.

RE mats, I got the premium carpet mats which are a rip off but I've tried to find aftermarket ones that fit in the foot wells...it is not easy as they are all too big!

Good luck (def go for the fleet discount if u can $2k discount + dealer del down to $995 so it's more like $4.5K discount!).

[Spook]

The TDI does not come with the RCD510 headunit, and to have that factory fitted means ticking the dynaudio or sat-nav option.

Some dealers list their stock on carsales, so if you do a search you'll see there's over 100 listed new TDIs (and about 30 petrols), so there are certainly lots of diesels around.

Leather, paint protection etc are not worth the extra $$ IMO, but this article here http://www.carbroker.com.au/paint-protection-rust-fabric-protection.php suggests it's not all useless.

[NZTiguan]

The TDI does not come with the RCD510 headunit, and to have that factory fitted means ticking the dynaudio or sat-nav option.


Don't know if it's the same in Ausi as here BUT my TDi did come with the RCD510 cos it had the luxury pack AND it also had park assist with sensors front and rear.

Cheers

[brh1978]

Don't know if it's the same in Ausi as here BUT my TDi did come with the RCD510 cos it had the luxury pack AND it also had park assist with sensors front and rear.

Cheers

2009 AU TDI's come with the new RCD-310 standard.

[NZTiguan]

2009 AU TDI's come with the new RCD-310 standard.

Same here BUT as soon as you put the luxury pack (leather etc) on here you get the RCD510 as part of the deal, and roof storage if you don't have the sunroof. That was what I was trying to point out.

Cheers

[Spook]

No lux pack here in Oz. There is a comfort pack, but no upgrade to RCD510 AFAIK.

[freddy]

Almost all (if not all) of the TDis listed on carsales are 08 built (there are a few 09s listed, but I would check to see if they are 08 built 09 complied). Given that posters on this forum have mentioned at least 2 Tig shipments due early this month, there should be a bit more pressure on dealers to get rid of their 08 stock. If you are not in a rush and are willing to opt for an 08 vehicle, waiting till end of this month or June may pay off. VW might even have to consider a "free on roads" offer for 08 Tigs by next month. of course, this is all supposition.

[deepspace]

The deal I got is $2.7k off plus $900 delivery charge fleet quote. The long option list might contribute to my bargin power but a fleet quote is fundamental to get any big price drop on tiguan order.

[tiguan_hunting]

Reading the brochure that I got both the TDI and 125 TSI comes with RCD310 standard. The 147 TSI comes with RCD510 standard.

I believe RCD510 comes with a 6 cd changer plus touch screen.

And in all 3 models we can opt for the RNS510 which is basically Sat Nav.

Which means DynAudio is an additional option that doesn't come standard with any of the 3 different audio systems above.

Am I right?

Also if I were to get Park Assist and the std RCD310 would I get a visual display for both front and rear sensors or just audible beeps?

If not do I need to upgrade to RCD510 or RNS510 to get a visual display? I'm not too fuss with not having a 6cd changer plus touch screen but would prefer a visual display for both front and rear parking sensors.

I'm also attempting to get a quote from www..betterdeal.com.au. See what I get and then use it as my basis for my negotiation.

Thanks

[deepspace]

Which means DynAudio is an additional option that doesn't come standard with any of the 3 different audio systems above.

Also if I were to get Park Assist and the std RCD310 would I get a visual display for both front and rear sensors or just audible beeps?

Dynaudio is an extra option regardless which model you choose. It also comes with RCD510 which is a great unit to play with.

With RCD310, you will still get visual display from park assist but does not look great.

btw: I'm glad that I chose Dynaudio, not only sounds good but brings the RCD510. 300W is enough for me and shall get better after break-in:)

[Spook]

And in all 3 models we can opt for the RNS510 which is basically Sat Nav.


The RNS510 isn't just a Sat Nav. It has a 30GB hard drive and built-in DVD drive. I believe you do lose the 6CD changer on the RCD510.

[Transporter]

Reading the brochure that I got both the TDI and 125 TSI comes with RCD310 standard. The 147 TSI comes with RCD510 standard.

I believe RCD510 comes with a 6 cd changer plus touch screen.

And in all 3 models we can opt for the RNS510 which is basically Sat Nav.

Which means DynAudio is an additional option that doesn't come standard with any of the 3 different audio systems above.

Am I right?

Also if I were to get Park Assist and the std RCD310 would I get a visual display for both front and rear sensors or just audible beeps?

If not do I need to upgrade to RCD510 or RNS510 to get a visual display? I'm not too fuss with not having a 6cd changer plus touch screen but would prefer a visual display for both front and rear parking sensors.

I'm also attempting to get a quote from www..betterdeal.com.au. See what I get and then use it as my basis for my negotiation.

Thanks

I would do that, it doesn't compare. I would rather focus on finding how reliable the RNS510 is.
Than consider if it's worth it? And also how often do you buy a car? If the difference between a fake and the real thing is not much or not worth it to me to take a risk, I would buy the RNS510 and be done with it. It would work from the day one without complications and lost time to get the fake unit connected and possibly brake some clips or similar in the dashboard in the process. :)
Just my 2c.

[NZTiguan]

I would do that, it doesn't compare. I would rather focus on finding how reliable the RNS510 is.
Than consider if it's worth it? And also how often do you buy a car? If the difference between a fake and the real thing is not much or not worth it to me to take a risk, I would buy the RNS510 and be done with it. It would work from the day one without complications and lost time to get the fake unit connected and possibly brake some clips or similar in the dashboard in the process. :)
Just my 2c.

me X2

Cheers

[NZTiguan]

The RNS510 isn't just a Sat Nav. It has a 30GB hard drive and built-in DVD drive. I believe you do lose the 6CD changer on the RCD510.

It seems to vary from market to market. Here in NZ the RNS has a 6 disc changer fitted in the armrest between the front seats, but it would appear to be different in some markets and even between Tigs within the same market.

Cheers

[clip]

The RNS510 isn't just a Sat Nav. It has a 30GB hard drive and built-in DVD drive. I believe you do lose the 6CD changer on the RCD510.
Spook, do you know if you can run different Nav software in the RNS?

[Spook]

Spook, do you know if you can run different Nav software in the RNS?

I don't know actually. But it apparently can play DVDs. Does that mean you can watch a movie on it?:confused: See link for more details:

http://www.volkswagen.com.au/etc/medialib/vwcms/virtualmaster/en_au/company/volkswagen_technology/rns510.Par.0001.File.pdf/54056%20Sat%20Nav%20A4%20Flyer.pdf

[Spook]

Also more info on the forum at vwnavi.com.

http://vwnavi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51

[tiguan_hunting]

I'll most probably not go with the RNS510 as I already have a Garmin and if the maps update cost $299 I don't think it's worth chucking out my Garmin.

However I do want a reverse sensor and rear view camera as I have young kids.

Has anyone tried putting in an after market reverse sensor + camera unit before in a tiguan or other volkswagen model? I had a friend who self installed a reverse camera into his Landrover Discovery 3 for only $240. He installed the LCD display next to his rear view mirror. It was a wireless unit so he didn't have to run any cables from the camera to the LCD display. All he had to do was to hook up the camera to one of the wires for the reverse lights to get the power off it and another wire screwed to the bottom of the car as the earth wire.

Subaru has an after market reverse sensor + camera option where the display is integrated with the rear view mirror i.e. when in reverse, half of the rear view mirror becomes the display for the rear view camera and the other half is the rear view mirror itself. I think this is a smart option so that your eyes are in the same place rather than having to look at both rear view mirror and camera which are in different positions. But this will then render the rain sensor option on the Tiguan useless as it replaces the rear view mirror completely.

My only concern is is there any risk in stuffing up the electronics in the Tiguan if I were to install an after market rear view sensor and camera?? I read somewhere on www.ozvolks.com about this guy who installed an after market bluetooth and it caused some issues to his RNS510 which volkswagen didn't want to cover under warranty.
Does anyone know who specialises in installing after market accessories for volkswagen?

I know the after market rear sensors and camera would not look as nice and neat as the std volkswagen option but it would be so much cheaper!

[borbor1313]

I have a post about all of this and other issues on mytiguan.com if that helps.It is not complete yet but has alot of information.
The LCD in the reversing mirror is OK as I have this in another car BUT on sunny days there is a reflection onto the screen which reduces visability so occasionally you have to tilt the mirror down.No problems at night though.Also there is a slight tint to the screen half of the mirror at all times.No Biggie for me but not the perfect reflective mirror they show you on the advertising pictures. In my opinion not worth it in the Tiguan as you lose the auto dimming feature of the reversing mirror. It is a clip on so rain sensing will still work.
A stand alone system with a additional screen will be easy to install but do not splice into the reversing lights as it will throw up faults as detected as blown bulb from voltage reduction.Hope that helps you.

As for looks it can be as good as OEM - see my other post

[T&M]

hey tiguan_hunting,

We ordered earlier this year, as some people have advised, at the end of the month - and haggled with the pricing.

I made a long list of every option we thought we would need and then started to haggle. My theory was to keep the price where I wanted it and was prepared to strike some of the options off the list in order to keep it there. Also had a second list with other extras that I want fitted, but wasn't prepared to have the dealer do it for us.

In the end, we pretty much got what we wanted for the around the target price and the bonus was, not all of the "sacrifice options" were omitted.

This is our car:

'09 TDI in Candy white
Black Leather
Comfort Pack
BiXennon lights
Front fog lights
Park Assist
Bluetooth
MDI
Offroad pack
Carpet floor mats and Boot liner
8" DVD roof mounted for kids
$49,500 drive away

Other extras are:

18" wheels and tyres (will keep the 16" for now)
Tint
Chip