MK6 Wheel / Rim / Tyre Thread

[kramy]

Hi there, just looking at getting the new Golf (exciting!) just wondered what tires come fitted as standard on the 118TSI Comfortline model?

Thanks!

[glennbot]

Most of the Mk6 Golf's I have seen in the showroom have Michelin tyres however the demo car had Hankook. I ask the dealer why this was so and he answered "VW have contracts with several brands - Michelin, Hankook, Continental (and one other I can't remember). It depends on what batch you get from VW.

Comfortline: 205/55 R16 Michelin Energy
Sports pack has: 225/45R17 Michelin Primacy HP

I rang a few places to find out the replacement cost of the 17" tyres.
On average they are $250+ ea. for other brands.
Strangely enough the 18" 225/40R18 was cheaper on average than the 17". Pitty the factory wheels are so expensive to upgrade to.

[phatkau]

Hey Kramy, the tyres for the Mk6 comfortline w/ sport pack (17" alloys) are Bridgestone Potenza RE050's, 225/45 R17 size. Maybe someone can confirm the rubbers for the 16"s?
Cheers~

EDIT: @glennbot - there you go! That's pretty interesting since I also assumed all new golfs came with the Michelins. You can add Bridgestone to that list the dealer told you then!

[mr gee]

Mine's fitted with Bridgestone 050s, I thought I saw one with Contis as well. Hankook is also an OE fit on the lesser models and I belief it's also on some of the spare tyres.

[Supreme]

I've seen Pirelli's on a TDI in a showroom.

[wvg]

I've got 3 weeks ago with Michelin.

[glennbot]

What Hankook tyre model are VW fitting to the 17" Wheels?

[mtaoz3]

There are Kumho tyres on the two Trendline 90TSI cars at the local dealer. These are 15".
My Sport pack Comfortline came with the 17" Michelin Premacy.

[wanga1983]

Mine has Bridgestone Turanza ER300 (16")

[guliver_twist]

225/45R17 Michelin Primacy HP came with my 118TSI as part of the sports pack... I did notice that the later shipments seemed to have bridgestones..

[logger]

Mine also has the Bridgestone Turanza ER300 205/55 R16 91V.

Brand new car, hardly 300km on the clock and I have my first puncture. Bugger....

Anyone got a price on a Bridgestone ER300?

Roofing Nail in the tread and it went flat over night. Real bummer is that it was the offside rear, so I did not notice it had gone flat and drove about 5km on a gravel road with it. Rim looks fine and so does the tyre superficially. But my guess is having driven on it flat it will be stuffed.

Irony is my 16 year old Daihatsu Charade still has the original factory spare in the back never used. I used this experience partly when deciding that a car with a space save spare tyre would be perfectly adequate. Then 3 days after getting a new car I actually have to use it. Oh well about to put 180Ks on the bike tyre so will let you all know how it goes.

[Ozram]

Picking mine up next Saturday from the dealer. It has the sports pack option and has Bridgestone Potenza RE050's, 225/45 R17 on it.

Can't wait.

Has anyone painted brake calipers on there Mk 6 yet?

[logger]

Anyone got a price on a Bridgestone ER300?


$185 fitted. But that's not the end of it. Alloy is buckled requiring repair which cost another $60. Cost would have only been $20 for a plug in a tyre if I had not driven on the flat tyre. Good reason to have the Sports pack and with the Low Tyre Press monitors I guess. So my 4 day old car is off the road til the wheel is repaired :-(

[xblode]

Hi all,

Hope everyone is having a great XMAS day :)

I picked up my Mk6GTI last weekend. A few days ago, I bought new wheels and tyres. While driving the car home, the "Check Tyres" warning came up.

I have gone thru the manual and searched the forums but can't find how to reset it.

The manual instructs me to press and hold the button which is located in the centre console, in the group of buttons that includes the traction control.

Problem is, there is no labelled button there.

Can anyone help a newbie out?

:)
Cheers
X...

[neil]

I vaguely recall someone mentioning the glovebox on some models has a button but not sure whether its for the tyres.

[xblode]

Neil, you are a legend!

Hope the big man in red brought you something good this XMAS!

Much appreciated!

:)

[neil]

Neil, you are a legend!

Hope the big man in red brought you something good this XMAS!

Much appreciated!

:)

I wish he had.

Currently sitting in a motel room on the Gold Coast due to work commitments, far far from home.:(
Lunch of prawns oysters and crays was ok though.

[xblode]

Sounds like me, New Year's, last year.

Motel, drinks and FoxSports :)

[twincharged]

Hi guys,

I recently took delivery of a Golf 118TSi. It has the standard 16inch rims; but one thing I thought was interesting was that it has Hankook tyres fitted. I thought this was odd, I was expecting some Continental tyres, which I beleive were on the test car. I wondered if they did the old switch-a-roo.

Can you guys please tell me what tyres were standard fitted to your 16inch rims; prefereably on 118TSi models; or tell me what tyres I should have expected to be on the car?

Thanks!

[prise]

Which model of Hancock tyre ? Mines still on a ship in the Indian ocean so I guess thats going to be another one of those little surprises.

[twincharged]

Ventus Prime 205/55R16.

[JPH]

I just took delivery of a TDI built last week of October. It has 16" Michelins.
Cheers
John

[Caddyman]

I currently have a Mk6 2.0TDI comfortline on loan, it has 16 inch Continental CSC2's great tyres.

Matthew

[prise]

http://www.carbonblack.com.au/car-tyres/tyre-reviews/471-hankook-tyres/ventus-prime-k105.aspx

and

http://www.hankooktire-eu.com/about/news/single-news-view/article/hankook-ventus-prime-again-outstanding-and-test-winner.html?tx_ttnews[backPid]=191&cHash=dc06de2f80

They get good reviews.

[cktsi]

My 2009 118TSI came with Michelins. I think the loaner Mk6 TDI (with sportspack) also has michelins and looks like a 2010 build (only 170km on the clock).

[cwcarruthers]

My 118TSI with 17" wheels (due to the Sport pack) came with Bridgestone Potenza RE050As.

They're great :-)

[MIRSAD]

Mar 09 - 118TSI Bridgestone Potenza
Oct 09 - GTI Bridgestone Potenza
Dec 09 - 90TSI (Comfort Package) Goodyear

[GolfAtom]

Bought my stock standard 118TSI mid-last year, it came with Continentals..

[sillygogo]

June 09 , 16" Bridgestone Protenza

[cme2c]

Sep 09 118TSI 205/55 X 16 Pirelli P7s

[bmck]

Dec 09 118TSI Sport: Dunlop SP Sport 17"

[Idle]

May '09 TDI — came with 16" Hankook Ventus Prime K105.

Was dubious when I first saw them (remembering Hankooks of old), however they're proving to be among the best road tyres I've used — possibly even the best (as an ex fleet operator and one-time competition driver, that's out of a lot of tyres down the years.)

Handling and wet/dry adhesion very good, ride good, look like they're going to wear well (barring accidents, I regularly get 80,000+ KM out of tyres on a road car — only time will tell here, of course.)

They are quite noisy on some surfaces, tho'.

[bigmouthmedia]

Nov 2009 Build - picked up today with Continental 3's 15" (Comfortline)

[geojack555]

June 09 , 16" Bridgestone Protenza

Got Pirelli P7 16" - they are really good, not much road sound...

[Beaker]

I was just wondering what tyres your GTI came with and what, if anything you've put on it.


After asking my dealer I was told that it can be delivered with pretty much anything on it (reasonable quality obviously).

I'm just wondering what its likely to come shod with.

[Sute]

18" - Dunlop Sport Maxx
17" - Bridgestone Potenza

[niulf]

I saw my neighbour got MICHELIN Pilot.

[MurphyTheElf]

18" - Bridgestone Potenza RE050A

[Beaker]

LOL. So the dealer was right - whatever they have lying at hand then.


Hope it doesn't come with 4 different brands! :P

[Corey_R]

LOL. So the dealer was right - whatever they have lying at hand then.


Hope it doesn't come with 4 different brands! :P

Lol - yep!

VW use Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop and Michelin. They also use Pirelli from time to time ;)
There is no way to tell what you're going to get and you can't specify it either.

[JAYDEE]

Lol - yep!

VW use Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop and Michelin. They also use Pirelli from time to time ;)
There is no way to tell what you're going to get and you can't specify it either.

If you had a choice which would you choose???:confused:

[Idle]

VW use Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop and Michelin. They also use Pirelli from time to time ;)
There is no way to tell what you're going to get and you can't specify it either.

They also use Hankook — that's what I got...

[GTi Crow]

If you had a choice which would you choose???:confused:

Had Conti Sports 2 and then Conti Sports 3 on my MKV GTI. To me they were a great tyre (never had any issues while I have heard others not as happy) and wore really well. Not cheap though.

[Beaker]

If you had a choice which would you choose???:confused:


Dunlop SP 3000A - awesome rubber, but I don't think they make a 225/40 R18 and not sure if a 235 would fit. Not sure what the Dunlop Sport 01 is like.

Although if you give the 3000A's a hard time they wear REALLY fast - I went from legal tyres to bands hanging out in 4 short runs at a Motorkahna.

The Michellin Pilot Sport PS2 is apparently a very good tyre as well, a mate has them on his Rex and is very happy with them.

I've had some bad experiences with Bridgstone rubber and I've never driven on Continetal.

[Corey_R]

If you had a choice which would you choose???:confused:

If I had a choice, I'd go with none of those! I'd get the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric!

I really like the Continental CS2 and CS3 - although some people complain of their sidewalls being too soft.

I think that Dunlop and Bridgestone are too inconsistent. I've had tyres from both of them which were rubbish, and none as good as the Conti's.

As Beaker mentioned, the Michelin Pilot Sport 2 are really good tyres, but they're a few years old now and their performance has been surpassed by the Goodyear.

Thankfully places like tirerack.com have the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics at such great prices that there is really no reason that you all couldn't switch to them when you need to change your tyres. Even though you have to pay for shipping from the USA, the prices are so great that they can be comparable to even 'budget tyre prices' in Australia - especially on 18" and 19" wheels.

[brad]

Lol - yep!

VW use Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop and Michelin. They also use Pirelli from time to time ;)
There is no way to tell what you're going to get and you can't specify it either.
You can make a deal with the dealer.

When I got the Octy they had Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop. I asked the dealer to only supply a vehicle with Contintal or Bridgestone with Contis my first preference. She pointed to another new vehicle in the yard with Continentals & told me they would swap the rims & tyres over if needed. SHe said it was no trouble providing there was another vehicle to swap with.

If I had a choice, I'd go Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Continental, Hankook & Dunlop in that order.

[Corey_R]

Yeah... but we're talking about the GTI here... you know, the car with the 6 month wait atm! Possibly not much chance of spare cars just laying around with tyres to swap on!

As for Bridgestone being the 2nd choice... many people with the GTI have complained about axle tramp when the wheels spin - I had that on my GTI, until I changed tyres. Went from Bridgestone to a Federal SS595 (cause I ran out of money at the time and friends at 'track days' recommended them as the best tyre on budget). Apart from noise levels, they killed the bridgestones which were on the GTI and didn't have any of the axl tramp issues at all. Better wet acceleration as well. Others have said bridgestones are great - so I can only assume that they have a very large range of quality between their different models - so I'd be hesitant about recommending them without at least specificing a specific model....

[flappa]

Aren't Conti's Truck tyres ? Best leave them for the VW Transporters :banana:
Just kidding :P

As long as mine has 4 black ones , I'll be happy , and THEN I'll worry about what to fit next time around.

[MasterKevin]

I got MICHELIN Pilots with mine :)

[WhiteJames]

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric would be great, but not available. Goodyear are good in the dry, fantastic in the wet.

Otherwise in this order:

1. Bridgestone RE050/RE001 - best for dry conditions/average in the wet. RE001 is also asymmetrical and very progressive near the threshold of adhesion.
2. Continental CS3 - Best all rounder/ a bit snappy at the limit, quick to let go. Very pricey.
3. Michelin - great grip & comfort due to softer sidewalls, but soft sidewalls & rougher Aus roadways don't mix. Better tyre for Europe. May have problem with bubbles forming in the softer sidewalls on rougher tarmac.
4. Dunlop - average tyre in all departments.
5. Hancock - no experience with these.

Thats my order ... be happy with Bridgestone or Conti (not CS2 though) if they arrive on my GTI.

Cheers.
WJ

[pologti18t]

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric would be great, but not available. Goodyear are good in the dry, fantastic in the wet.

Otherwise in this order:

1. Bridgestone RE050/RE001 - best for dry conditions/average in the wet. RE001 is also asymmetrical and very progressive near the threshold of adhesion.
2. Continental CS3 - Best all rounder/ a bit snappy at the limit, quick to let go. Very pricey.
3. Michelin - great grip & comfort due to softer sidewalls, but soft sidewalls & rougher Aus roadways don't mix. Better tyre for Europe. May have problem with bubbles forming in the softer sidewalls on rougher tarmac.
4. Dunlop - average tyre in all departments.
5. Hancock - no experience with these.

Thats my order ... be happy with Bridgestone or Conti (not CS2 though) if they arrive on my GTI.

Cheers.
WJ

Michelins have soft sidewalls? It's the continentals (CSC2) that have that issue (and the sidewall bubbles). In general they (michelins) have stiffer sidewalls than an equivalent spec Continental and a longer laster compound.

What michelins are fitted to the Golf GTI? Exaltos? Doubt they would use PS2.

I have used CSC2 and Michelin Pilot Precedas 2 on my Polo and the Michelins have much better wear, lower tyre noise and a firmer sidewall than the original CSC2.

[Sute]

If you had a choice which would you choose???:confused:

I had Conti SC2 on my GolfV and was more than happier especially with the grip in both wet/dry conditions.
Best of all they had a remarkable wear tread life.
I did 80,000km on my original tires - put the same again and just traded in the car with 125,000 with tires as good as new (even the dealer complimented on the tires condition).

So, guess what will be my replacement tire when the dunlops are worn out (can't wait). The Conti SC2 or 3 are bit pricey though - I have to admit.

[Beaker]

Thats impressive!

I get 20-25K out of my current Dunlops. Like I said though, they grip, and grip and grip some more. Until you get crazy with them - then they melt and you slide all over the place :P

[WhiteJames]

Had continental CS2 first up on my MKV GTI. Great wearing tyre. More life in them than the Bridgestone Potenza imo. Have heard of CS2/CS3 developing bubbles on the track, although reported cases were on the heavier R32. I have never had an issue with Conti's. Have had Michelin tyres bubble on me. It was a while back. Michelin refused to replace an near new tyre, so vowed never to buy Michelin again. Wouldn't be too concerned if they come on my new GTI, but prefer Bridgestone or Conti. If I had a choice, it'd be Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrical.

Cheers.
WJ

[mfl]

Mine came with Bridgestones - doesn't take much to get the little yellow little flashing in 1st and 2nd in the wet..........

no complaints so far.

[MIRSAD]

Bridgestone on my GTI (delivered Oct 09).

Tyres are already discussed... this is one of useful web sites from that tread showing Auto Zeitung (German car magazine) 2009 Tyre Test results (in English)

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2009-Auto-Zeitung-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

[Dave07]

Is it possible to fit 235/40 18s to the Monza wheels? Stock suspension. Any rubbing? Handling difference? As there is a special promotion for Michelin PS3 <$300 each atm. (check out the passat section in the forum)

[Corey_R]

I had the Oettinger Type RE 18x8.5" wheels on my MKV GTI. 235/40 R18's is what I ran on them and they were fine. No rubbing etc. More grip was available, but also slightly more road noise.

The 19" wheels on the R also use 235 width tyres. Those 19" Talladega's are 8" wide.

But Monza's, called Detroit's in this country, are only 7.5" wide. So I think that 225's are already a snug fit.

[Diesel_vert]

As far as permitted rims go, for fitment 235/40 R18 they are 8.0", 8.5", 9.0" and 9.5", as officially determined by the ETRTO.

I think 225/40 R18 tyres are fitted with 8.0" rims which means it's okay, but if they're 7.5" then you're out of luck.

[Corey_R]

As far as permitted rims go, for fitment 235/40 R18 they are 8.0", 8.5", 9.0" and 9.5", as officially determined by the ETRTO.
Thanks for that information


I think 225/40 R18 tyres are fitted with 8.0" rims which means it's okay, but if they're 7.5" then you're out of luck.
No, the 18" Detroit/Monza rims are 18" x 7.5" only.
Check out the optional equipment list on page 13 of The Golf GTI brochure from the VW Australia website (http://www.volkswagen.com.au/etc/medialib/vwcms/virtualmaster/en_au/new_cars/golf/pricing___specifications.Par.0028.File.pdf/78516_golf_gti_brochure.pdf) :)

[Diesel_vert]

No, the 18" Detroit/Monza rims are 18" x 7.5" only.

Awww, c'mon Volkswagen, that's sooo cheap! :nono:

[Dave07]

thanks for the info guys.

It's a bummer that the PS3 225/40 18s costs $400 as opposed to around $280 for the 235/40 18s

[Corey_R]

Check out tirerack.com

It's USA based, but the tyre prices there are often so good that even after the shipping you end up way ahead.

I don't know anything about the Michelin PS3 (as in haven't seen any reviews of it yet). But the best tyre in the reviews I have seen over the past year or so is consistently the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric. Tirerack has that for US$176 each, ~AU$195. Even if the shipping is US$250, that would be a total of ~AU$1055

That's still cheaper than that special of $1120 for the PS3 which won't fit your car, or $1600 for the ones that will !

[Dave07]

Check out tirerack.com

It's USA based, but the tyre prices there are often so good that even after the shipping you end up way ahead.

I don't know anything about the Michelin PS3 (as in haven't seen any reviews of it yet). But the best tyre in the reviews I have seen over the past year or so is consistently the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric. Tirerack has that for US$176 each, ~AU$195. Even if the shipping is US$250, that would be a total of ~AU$1055

That's still cheaper than that special of $1120 for the PS3 which won't fit your car, or $1600 for the ones that will !

Thanks for that info but the PS3 is suppose to be better than the Goodyear Eagle F1 (PS2 on my R36 is awesome). The PS3 is not available on Tirerack.com yet

[Corey_R]

Have you got any reviews or comparisons with tests which show that it is better than the F1 Asymmetric? (Has to be Asymmetric, as there are several types of Eagle F1).

I'm not saying that it isn't, just saying that I haven't seen any yet.

[MIRSAD]

This is link to 2010 European summer tyre test for size

225/45 R17 W / V



http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2010-European-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm


plus on the website there are links to few other websites with tests results (for few sizes)

[Corey_R]

Well that particular review puts the Goodyear F1 Eagle out ahead of the PS3, and tied for 2nd. Of note, the best overall is not the best performing, but is quiet and fuel efficient. Also of note, the Goodyear Eagle is the best wearing of the high performance tyres!
(based on the 17" results)

So although that's the first one I've seen with the PS3 in it, it's typical of what I've seen in the past two years. The F1 Asymmetric being the best high performance tyre.

[alebonau]

what tyres did your gti come with ?

mine has the 17" alloys is a 10 build and comes with michelins. I've also seen bridgestones they were on a 18" wheel.

Is there any difference ?

the michellins seems quiet. stop and go well. with spirited acceleration can get them to chirp off the line which is good ! :)

no idea how they compare with any of the other brand tyre the gti's come with.

[Idle]

what tyres did your gti come with ?


the michellins seems quiet. stop and go well. with spirited acceleration can get them to chirp off the line which is good ! :)

no idea how they compare with any of the other brand tyre the gti's come with.

What's so good about chirp off the line?

Chirp = slip. Slip=abrasion. Abrasion = extra wear = cash out of pocket — not to mention attracting unwelcome attention...

Besides, all else being equal, tyres that don't slip will get you off the line faster.

[alebonau]

What's so good about chirp off the line?

Chirp = slip. Slip=abrasion. Abrasion = extra wear = cash out of pocket — not to mention attracting unwelcome attention...

Besides, all else being equal, tyres that don't slip will get you off the line faster.

oh no I think your mis reading my post, its the tiniest of little chirps if you push it pretty hard ! . its not like I'm squealing off the line or anything :banana:.

hehe I suppose we could be complete kill joys and say lets not push the accelerator down as it uses more fuel and is harder on the engine and harder on the car and puts more co2 in the atmosphere and uses up the tires and and and..:rolleyes:

anyways perhaps we can get back to topic of hand.

what standard tyres did you get on your mk6 gti ? and anyone know if any difference between them performance wise :)

[Corey_R]

what tyres did your gti come with ?
There were already multiple threads on this topic. Please use the search function.

I've merged your thread into some of the existing ones, so have a read back through this to find your answer.

[alebonau]

doesnt seem much more response on this one. Still keen to know especially with 2010 build GTI's. What did you gti come with, how do you find them.

with about month's use of michelin primacy HP's that my GTI came with. I can say it has good comfort, pretty quiet for road noise, Handles well around corners. Have never had it slip or slide. But under power in the wet they defintely seem to give away on wheel spin and with axle tramp depending how hard you push. Based on this I'd say the GTI is under rubbered with what VW provide it with. My last car also had michelin but pilot exaltos which I think had a bit better grip in the wet. will look to swapping to something more grippy once done with the current set have on the car :) in the mean time will have to go easy on the gas pedal especially in the wet ! hehe

[kennyc]

Mine are bridgestone with 17s

[MIRSAD]

doesnt seem much more response on this one. Still keen to know especially with 2010 build GTI's. have on the car :) i...hehe

This is address with most recant (updated) tyre reviews.

Tyre reviews, tests and ratings - tyre reviews, the online tyre
guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/)

[alebonau]

Mine are bridgestone with 17s

which bridgestones and how have you found them

[alebonau]

This is address with most recant (updated) tyre reviews.

Tyre reviews, tests and ratings - tyre reviews, the online tyre
guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/)

thanks for the link, some good info. they dont seem to have much anything on mk6 gti and peoples feedack. doesnt seem to have the primacy hp listed either. But a lot of good info there none the less. the michelin pilot sp2 seems a bit of a fav for the mk5 gti.

what tires did your gti come with mirsad and how have you found them so far ?

[MkVIGTI]

Mine came with Bridgestone Potenza RE50. I thought they were pretty good with good grip in the dry and good ride comfort/noise. Haven't really pushed it in the wet so dunno about its traction in the wet though. I heard somewhere that Yokohama has one that's also pretty good, even better than the RE50s for similar price. Can't remember which one it is though

[MIRSAD]

thanks for the link, some good info. they dont seem to have much anything on mk6 gti and peoples feedack. doesnt seem to have the primacy hp listed either. But a lot of good info there none the less. the michelin pilot sp2 seems a bit of a fav for the mk5 gti.

what tires did your gti come with mirsad and how have you found them so far ?

Nov 09 - Jan 2010 17" Bridgestone Potenza RE50
Jan 2010 - today 18" Bridgestone Potenza RE50 (changed 17 to 18")

It is looking OK ... not much driving in the wet ... few spins but mainly due to dirty surface or excitement...

But I can't find much difference (only minor change in comfort) even between 17" and 18" - not an "expert".

[alebonau]

Mine came with Bridgestone Potenza RE50. I thought they were pretty good with good grip in the dry and good ride comfort/noise. Haven't really pushed it in the wet so dunno about its traction in the wet though. I heard somewhere that Yokohama has one that's also pretty good, even better than the RE50s for similar price. Can't remember which one it is though

my previous car was coming upto replacing the michelin pilot exaltos and infact for 17" its not something was available, the places I visited mentioned yokohama 509's but I remember them from years ago ! youd think tyres had moved on since ! another one suggested were the pirelli p zero's for about the same money as the pilots and the yokohama's but no experience with either to comment.

[alebonau]

Nov 09 - Jan 2010 17" Bridgestone Potenza RE50
Jan 2010 - today 18" Bridgestone Potenza RE50 (changed 17 to 18")

It is looking OK ... not much driving in the wet ... few spins but mainly due to dirty surface or excitement...

But I can't find much difference (only minor change in comfort) even between 17" and 18" - not an "expert".

interesting experience there mirsad, what brought on the change from 17's to 18's looks like you stuck with stock alloys ?

sounds like your reasonably happy with your bridgestones. looks the michelin primacy are probably ok too, perhaps I'm being too picky and some of it could be surface related too. Just thinking probably could do better than them thats all I guess :)

[MIRSAD]

interesting experience there mirsad, what brought on the change from 17's to 18's looks like you stuck with stock alloys ?

sounds like your reasonably happy with your bridgestones. looks the michelin primacy are probably ok too, perhaps I'm being too picky and some of it could be surface related too. Just thinking probably could do better than them thats all I guess :)

Change from 17" to 18" was part of the deal with VW dealer.

As I pointed for me Bridgestone is OK (driving in Perth mainly 50 - 80 Km ... 100+ on the weekend ... not much) but my preferences are (when time come)

Continental Sport Contact 3
Michelin Pilot Sport 3 PS3
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric

[ConR]

Mine is coming with the Dunlop SP's on 18"

based on the reviews I'm reading, they're so so....but then again, I don't drive like a complete maniac...at least I don't plan to, but I know I will!!!! :P

[darkfriend]

Picked up my 118TSI (without the sports pack) today in WA. Tyres are Continental Sportcontact2... whatever that means.

[BBP]

What does eveyone think about the ride quality on different brands of the 16s on the TSIs ?

Which is the best rider ?

[clubbie]

My car came with the Bridgestones - sigh. Noisy as anything at 100kph. Was hoping for Conti 3's.

Can't wait for them to die so I can put Pirelli P7's that quitened down the Mazda SP23 so magnificently.

[ConR]

I got Bridgestone Potenzas with mine...love em so far

[mr gee]

I had the Re050 on mine and though they performed very well, got noisy as hell after 22,000km. I persevered for a while as there was plenty of thread left but at 29000km, gave up and switched to PS3. Day and night.

['fatboy']

Mine came with Bridgestone Potenza RE050 (118 TSI sport pack). I've also got the same set (although larger size) on my other car, however those are RFTs... The difference is light and day between the same tyre (non RFT and RFT).

Plenty of grip in the dry, but when pushed they dont wear very well.

[hoi polloi]

Golf 103TDI + Sports Pack

Dunlop SP Sport 01A

- Anthony.

[gtimal]

MY10 mk6 GTi

Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT

Wish they had more dry weather grip when merging into traffic from a standing start .You don't have to push them hard to loose traction .

Cheers

[alebonau]

MY10 mk6 GTi

Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT

Wish they had more dry weather grip when merging into traffic from a standing start .You don't have to push them hard to loose traction .

Cheers

Interesting comment gtimal, can cope with the grip of the michelin primacy hp I have in the dry. But in the wet think they're pretty inadequate.

Gti could definitely do with more grip I agree. When my primacy are worn down, hopefully can swap to something grippier like the pilot sport 3 michelins or something.

[AdamD]

2010 MkVI GTI - Bridgestone Potenza RE050.

Seem okay so far, albeit quite noisy at speed. Grip is decent, but I've not compared them to anything else on a GTI, so who knows.

[MkVIGTI]

2010 MkVI GTI - Bridgestone Potenze RE050.

Seem okay so far, albeit quite noisy at speed. Grip is decent, but I've not compared them to anything else on a GTI, so who knows.

Mine came with the same set of tyres. Thought they offered a good ride/handling balance, just a bit noisy over rough roads.

[MIRSAD]

If You are interested:

New 2010 EVO Tyre Test

2010 EVO Tyre Test - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2010-EVO-Tyre-Test.htm)

[Corey_R]

Thanks for the link.
It's kinda annoying since to get the overall result you need to buy the magazine.
Also, they are missing several big names there, such as the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric which in previous tests with most of those tyres has 'won'. Lastly, as they mention, several of the tyres they've reviewed are outdated or have been superseeded by newer or better models. :/

[alebonau]

Thanks for the link.
It's kinda annoying since to get the overall result you need to buy the magazine.
Also, they are missing several big names there, such as the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric which in previous tests with most of those tyres has 'won'. Lastly, as they mention, several of the tyres they've reviewed are outdated or have been superseeded by newer or better models. :/

True the pilot exaltos I had on my Citroën before, was current at the time I got the car but can't buy The tyre even if wanted to. Why they didn't test the pilot sport 3 instead don't really understand.

[AdamD]

I recently bought the December 2010 issue of EVO, with their 2010 FWD tyre test. The tyre size was 235/35 R19 - correct fitment for the Golf R running 19s IIRC (they used a Megane RS250 as the test vehicle).

The results:

Continental ContiSport Contact 5P (97.8%)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric (95.5%)
Pirelli P Zero K1 (95.4%)
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (92.9%)
Toyo Proxes Sport T1 (91.3%)
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT (90.8%)
Bridgestone Potenza S001 (90.6%)
Hankook Ventus S1 EVO (88.9%)
Kumho Ecsta SPT KU31 (87.5%)


The results are covered in brief here (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2010-EVO-FWD-Tyre-Test.htm).

I myself have the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric - in 225/40 R18 - on my GTI, and am quite happy with them so far.

[Corey_R]

ooh, I was going to get the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric.... but now the Conti 5P is the best! Interesting....

It's missing the Michelin PS3 though....

[AdamD]

ooh, I was going to get the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric.... but now the Conti 5P is the best! Interesting....

It's missing the Michelin PS3 though....

What's wrong with your OEM rubber? Going to 19s?

The main points of difference between the Contis and Goodyears are wet braking (Goodyear 1st, Conti 4th and 1m longer), dry braking (Conti 1st, Goodyear 7th and 2.3m longer!), rolling resistance (Conti 5th, Goodyear 9th), and dry handling (Conti typically top, Goodyear around mid field). The Goodyears are definitely better in the wet; the Contis are definitely better in the dry and are slightly better overall. In the other tests both tyres were trading places at the top.

Tirerack (http://www.tirerack.com/) doesn't have the 5Ps at the moment unfortunately... the CSC3s are around US$800 a set, or $100 more than the Goodyears.

[Corey_R]

Nah - I'm not upgrading the wheels... I should have said "I'll get the F1's when my current tyres wear out!". Thanks for the details. I'm sure Tirerack will have the 5P's at some point!

[Parky]

What do you think of the Continental ExtremeContact DW ? Anyone have experiences with them? It actually beat both the F1's and PS2's in the Tirerack.com comparo. Link here http://bit.ly/hH6yP1

They're well priced too..

[brad]

What do you think of the Continental ExtremeContact DW ? Anyone have experiences with them? It actually beat both the F1's and PS2's. They're well priced too..

i think you could pick any of the top 5 tyres in that list & be pretty happy unless you drive around like Fangio all the time. I've even run the Kumho KU31 & it was more than adequate for tearing around the suburbs.

[team_v]

i think you could pick any of the top 5 tyres in that list & be pretty happy unless you drive around like Fangio all the time. I've even run the Kumho KU31 & it was more than adequate for tearing around the suburbs.

I would go Kumho's for normal use and PS3's / Eagle F1's if i was doing some serious driving.

[teodeh]

I have some KU31's on my pug gti (Currently 4 months into an 8 month wait for my R...) and although they are excellent value they are nowhere near the performance of the stock Bridgestone RE050A tyres.

Can't complain about $145/rim fitted (v.s. around $300 quoted for the PS3s)

Wet grip is verging on dangerous compared to the excellent bridgestones.

Unless you're on a budget I'd advise staying away from the KU31s.

[Corey_R]

Wow... it was only going to cost $300 a corner for the PS3's ?!?!
Do you mind confirming the tyre size and where this deal was from?

[rs73]

my MK6 GTI ('09 build) came with Dunlop SP 225/45/17

[teodeh]

Wow... it was only going to cost $300 a corner for the PS3's ?!?!
Do you mind confirming the tyre size and where this deal was from?

205/45/R17, tempe tyres (and this was 12 months ago, so there is some chance my memory is faulty)

[brad]

205/45/R17, tempe tyres (and this was 12 months ago, so there is some chance my memory is faulty)

Probably faulty. PS3s weren't available 12 months ago AFAIK. It was probably PS2 & that price sounds about right for that size at TT

[MkVIGTI]

Just bought the Jan issue of Wheels and it has the 2010 tyre test. Street tyres that were tested include:

Dunlop SP Sport Maxx TT
Goodyear Eagle F1
Maxxis Victra I-Pro
Toyo Proxes T1 Sport
Continental Contisportcontact 3
Bridestone Potenza 001 Adrenaline
Toyo Proxes R1R

And the overall winner was the Goodyear F1, followed by Toyo R1R.

[Ideo]

I run goodyear eagle F1's and would buy them again without a moments doubt.

Excellent tyres - came second in this years Evo test as well - which is good considering it was up against new tyres and it has been around a few years.

[Corey_R]

Can someone clarify what Eagle F1's were actually tested? Was it the Asymmetrics?

For the past few years they've been the No 1 tyre to get. But I notice this test is missing both the Michelin PSP3 and the Continental CSC 5P, both of which have taken out the No 1 spot in various tests against the F1 Asymmetrics when they've been included. However, it's still been very close, and I believe that the main reason the F1's lost in the Evo tyre test was their poor rolling resistence results.

[MIRSAD]

Can someone clarify what Eagle F1's were actually tested? Was it the Asymmetrics?

For the past few years they've been the No 1 tyre to get. But I notice this test is missing both the Michelin PSP3 and the Continental CSC 5P, both of which have taken out the No 1 spot in various tests against the F1 Asymmetrics when they've been included. However, it's still been very close, and I believe that the main reason the F1's lost in the Evo tyre test was their poor rolling resistence results.

Yes it was:
2010 EVO FWD Tyre Test - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2010-EVO-FWD-Tyre-Test.htm)

This is list of "all" 2010 tyre tests:
Tyre tests at tyrereviews - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Tests/#summer)

[AdamD]

Can someone clarify what Eagle F1's were actually tested? Was it the Asymmetrics?

For the past few years they've been the No 1 tyre to get. But I notice this test is missing both the Michelin PSP3 and the Continental CSC 5P, both of which have taken out the No 1 spot in various tests against the F1 Asymmetrics when they've been included. However, it's still been very close, and I believe that the main reason the F1's lost in the Evo tyre test was their poor rolling resistence results.

Yes it was the Asymmetric, both in Wheels (au) and in EVO (uk).

I would say that the Conti CSC 5P is the better overall tyre even discounting rolling resistance - they did perform quite a bit better in the dry than the Goodyears (especially dry braking). If you can get them for close to the price of the Goodyear, I'd say do it. But if not, well, you can't go wrong with either tyre based on what I've read (and my own personal experience with the Goodyear).

Both the PSP3 and particularly the CSC 5P seem to be fairly rare at the moment - the former being very expensive, and the latter very new.

[Corey_R]

I've researched the CSC 5P's and basically the only Golf owners who could get them are Golf R owners with the optional 19" wheels via the 235/35R19 91Y model. Athough my R's 18" tyres are rated at 92Y, so I hope 91Y is still ok for the R (definitely is for the GTI). There are 18" CSC 5P's available, but only in 235/40R18 95Y. The problem is with that, you'd need at least 8" wide rims, and the GTI and R's 18" rims are 7.5" wide - therefore you'd only be able to use aftermarket rims.

All CSC 5P specs are here (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/au/en/continental/tyres/themes/car-tyres/sport-uhp-tyres/contisportcontact-5P/contisportcontact-5P,tabNr=4.html)
Tirerack also sell a decent range of CSC 5P's, including both sizes mentioned above (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiSportContact+5P). The pricing is equiv to the OEM Bridgestone/Dunlop and also the Michelin PSP2 and 3's... but the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric's are significantly cheaper...

[Jasonpb]

I got Dunlop SP Sport MAXX GT 91Ys on my R, wasn't really happy that I got lumped with Dunlop tyres as I have never really liked them but according to the lease company they should last me three years in which case I won't need to worry about replacing them (yeah right)

[Corey_R]

Hey Jasonpb, do you have 19" Talladega's?
Either way, it's good to know that 91 load tyres are acceptible on the R.

[Jasonpb]

Hey Jasonpb, do you have 19" Talladega's?
Either way, it's good to know that 91 load tyres are acceptible on the R.

Yup, sure do

[MkVIGTI]

Just a bit more info on the Wheels Tyre Test, the size of the tyres tested is 245/40R18. The test vehicle they used was the latest WRX STI sedan. The Bridgestone Potenza 001 tested, however, is soon to be superseded. And the Continental has the highest treadwear rating in the group (also the slowest around the track though).

[dave_r]

I got Dunlop SP Sport MAXX GT 91Ys on my R, wasn't really happy that I got lumped with Dunlop tyres as I have never really liked them but according to the lease company they should last me three years in which case I won't need to worry about replacing them (yeah right)
I'm not happy about getting them either, didn't note the load rating but same model tyre on my 19's as well. I doubt mine will last until 15k let alone 3 years. Not sure what I'll goto next, always liked Bridgestones on my previous RWD cars

[Corey_R]

I have the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 225/40R18 92Y 140 A A on my R. Not that I've had other tyres on my R to really compare, but I don't really think they're anything special. I much prefer the Continental CSC2's which I've had on two previous VW's. Based on the tests from places like Evo, even the S001 Potenza isn't good enough to place it in the top 5.

So dave_r, if I were in your position, there'd only be 2 tyres I'd be considering... the Conti CSC 5P, or the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric. For everyone else (with 17" or 18" by <=7.5" wheels), there is only 1 option to consider, and that's the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric... ESPECIALLY since they're actually cheaper than the Dunlops and Bridgestones which they demolish in all these tests.

[dave_r]

No experience with either of those brands really other than the Polo having some type of Conti's. But the price diff between the 2 is fairly small:
235/35ZR19 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Blackwall N0 (Porsche) $248.00 ea
235/35ZR19 Continental ContiSportContact 5P Blackwall R01 Audi, front/both axles $269.00 ea
Plus shipping, but that's fairly easy.

A mate has these (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=34YR8SPORTCUP&tab=Sizes) on a TTRS and thinks they're great but rarely drives the car so mileage isn't a huge concern. I doubt they'd be any good for a daily!

[MkVIGTI]

So you don't think the COnti CSC 3 is good enough Corey? I heard that the Goodyear Eagle F1s don't wear too well...

[Corey_R]

No experience with either of those brands really other than the Polo having some type of Conti's. But the price diff between the 2 is fairly small:
235/35ZR19 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Blackwall N0 (Porsche) $248.00 ea
235/35ZR19 Continental ContiSportContact 5P Blackwall R01 Audi, front/both axles $269.00 ea
Actually, you've got the wrong tyre there. The two you need is the following, and the difference is much bigger!:
235/35R19 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Blackwall (91Y) $210.00 ea
235/35ZR19 Continental ContiSportContact 5P Blackwall R01 Audi, front/both axles (91Y) $269.00 ea


So you don't think the COnti CSC 3 is good enough Corey? I heard that the Goodyear Eagle F1s don't wear too well...

The Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric has beat the Conti CSC 3 in every single roundup I've ever seen, so hence why I'd say that it's either the GY E F1 A or Conti CSC 5P if available in your size. The other tyre which is good is the Michelin PS3 - but it is rare, often exy, and also in limited sizes etc. I haven't seen it in enough roundups to get a judge of it yet.

Having said that. Being that the CSC 2 was an awesome tyre (and still is in many ways), and the CSC 5P is looking to be an awesome tyre, I'm sure that the CSC 3 would be great too. But again, with the price diff between it (@ $259 in the above size comparison), why would you bother paying the US$39 extra per wheel?

[dave_r]

Actually, you've got the wrong tyre there. The two you need is the following, and the difference is much bigger!:
Ah well $59USD per tyre, that's a spare for the same money. No experience with F1's but plenty of normal goodyears, all the aussie made ones from memory which were good for burnouts and not much else....

[Corey_R]

Yeah - I've never liked any Goodyears that I've had in the past... but there have been too many roundups where the F1 Asymmetric has won, suggesting they're nothing like the Goodyears that I've used in the past!

[Ideo]

Ah well $59USD per tyre, that's a spare for the same money. No experience with F1's but plenty of normal goodyears, all the aussie made ones from memory which were good for burnouts and not much else....

I was against them until I tried the asym F1s. For the price, nothing else matches them imo

I had Pirelli P zero something something on before that, and they weren't a patch on the F1's. Prior to that I had Yoko Advans which were a great tyre, but wore so quickly.

[kaanage]

No experience with F1's but plenty of normal goodyears, all the aussie made ones from memory which were good for burnouts and not much else....

Just about every brand has great tyres and rubbish tyres and they can vary in the same tyre depending on where/when they were made. I had the original non-assymetric German made F1s on a previous car that replaced the OEM Michelin Pilot Sports (Italian!!) and while both were great tyres, the Michelins only lasted 25,000km while the Goodyears lasted 40,000km - both were very expensive. But then when F1s wore out and I replaced them with a new set, they were MUCH cheaper but made in Thailand rather than Germany and just about everything was inferior - dry/wet grip, wear, NVH. The dealer did warn me that they would be disappointing after the original version.

Then there were the Goodyear NCTs that came on my previous car and were total rubbish in every way. A cheap set of Kumhos were just so much better than I wished I'd just replaced the NCTs when I 1st got the car

[ljt555]

Just bought a set of 18" detroits for my mk6 GTI - ordered with denvers, (wtf was I thinking), whats your recomendation for rubber?.

[Maz]

Check out:
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/mk6-tyre-thread-28107.html

and

Recommended tyres for the Volkswagen Golf Mark VI | my-gti.com (http://www.my-gti.com/2762/recommended-tyres-for-the-volkswagen-golf-mark-vi)

[dave_r]

Just about every brand has great tyres and rubbish tyres and they can vary in the same tyre depending on where/when they were made.
Very true, they're one of those painful purchases because you sorta have to live with because you can't test them out yourself before hand.

Not sure I'd base a purchase on mag reviews, after all if we did, we might be driving totally different cars ;)

[azn_007]

i recently fitted a set of bridgestone re050a its 225 40 18 they are fantastic they it rode softer, quieter and grips whole lot better then the stock dunlop sport sp that came with my stock Denvers, the ride quality has improved significantly given my full h&r suspension kit.

[SilvrFoxX]

i recently fitted a set of bridgestone re050a its 225 40 18 they are fantastic they it rode softer, quieter and grips whole lot better then the stock dunlop sport sp that came with my stock Denvers, the ride quality has improved significantly given my full h&r suspension kit.

I have them on my Liberty, best damn tyres I have ever had

[Frankenstrat]

Mine came fitted with Pirelli 205/55 R16

[Corey_R]

I have them on my Liberty, best damn tyres I have ever had

I feel sorry for you... I have them on my R. They're ok... but not fantastic.

[Beena]

I've had Yokohama AD07's for a while - awesome tyre once they've warmed up. The new AD08's come in a 235/35/19 - if mine comes with rubbish tyres I might give them a go.

[brad]

I feel sorry for you... I have them on my R. They're ok... but not fantastic.
i'd rate RE050A as one of the top 10 tyres available in Australia. Having driven Dunlop SP Sport, I can understand why AZN007 is a happy camper.

2 points on RE050A:
They need heat in them.
They reward smooth driving.

[hooba]

i'd rate RE050A as one of the top 10 tyres available in Australia. Having driven Dunlop SP Sport, I can understand why AZN007 is a happy camper.

2 points on RE050A:
They need heat in them.
They reward smooth driving.

I rate them as well, great in the wet and dry, and very communicative. My only criticism is about their tendency to wear the outer shoulder block prematurely and the replacement cost.

[Corey_R]

I guess I prefer a "top 3" tyre rather than a "top 10" tyre ;)

[dave_r]

I found it surprising that the RS5's a mate had the other day came fitted with the dunlop rubbish on 20's that my R has as well. WTF is going on over there in Germany!

[Corey_R]

BMW and Merc probably have more expensive contracts with Conti than VAG do.... and Germany probably don't like using Goodyear cause that's American! hehe

[MkVIGTI]

Just went for a regular wheel alignment the other day and decided to get a quote on the tyres. Kmart auto quoted me $400 for a RE050 or $409 for the RE050A. For the F1 assymetric they wanted $439! And all this $$ is for the 17" Denvers...

[v0a]

Just went for a regular wheel alignment the other day and decided to get a quote on the tyres. Kmart auto quoted me $400 for a RE050 or $409 for the RE050A. For the F1 assymetric they wanted $439! And all this $$ is for the 17" Denvers...

are you looking for grippy tyres, long lasting or a mix between the two

i went for grippy and got yokohama Ad08's on the fronts (denvers) for around 340-350 a pop

[nat225]

Just went for a regular wheel alignment the other day and decided to get a quote on the tyres. Kmart auto quoted me $400 for a RE050 or $409 for the RE050A. For the F1 assymetric they wanted $439! And all this $$ is for the 17" Denvers...

The RRPs at Bob Jane / Kmart Tyre have not reflected the strong AUD currency at all...
So there are much better deals at Tirerack and local eBay.

eg:
Conti Sports Contact 3, $250 each for 225 45 17
Continental Sports Contact 3 - 225/45 R17 91Y Tyre - BN (eBay item 290511673815 end time 10-Feb-11 19:46:07 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Continental-Sports-Contact-3-225-45-R17-91Y-Tyre-BN-/290511673815?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a3d859d7)

2 X New 225-45-17 CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACT 3 TYRES!! (eBay item 360341056858 end time 12-Feb-11 11:40:38 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-X-New-225-45-17-CONTINENTAL-SPORT-CONTACT-3-TYRES-/360341056858?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e6002d5a)

Dunlop Sports Maxx, $700 + shipping for a set of 225 45 17
BRAND NEW 4 X 225-45-17 DUNLOP SPORT MAXX GERMAN MADE! (eBay item 230579147384 end time 07-Feb-11 15:22:24 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230579147384&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

And for around <AUD$1,000 a set of top 17" tyres or tires (American spelling) can be imported from tirerack.com

Fitting and balancing should be around $60 at JaxQuickFit

[Corey_R]

The RRPs at Bob Jane / Kmart Tyre have not reflected the strong AUD currency at all...
So there are much better deals at Tirerack and local eBay.
Yeah, but lets leave that topic alone shall we.
Just because the Australian $ is strong, doesn't change the cost of our realestate, or wages, or electricity/gas/water, our council rates, or advertising, or supplies, or food, etc etc etc - all which go towards the cost of a business, in addition to the cost of stock.

[Ideo]

Yeah, but lets leave that topic alone shall we.
Just because the Australian $ is strong, doesn't change the cost of our realestate, or wages, or electricity/gas/water, our council rates, or advertising, or supplies, or food, etc etc etc - all which go towards the cost of a business, in addition to the cost of stock.

And it doesn't change the fact that the importers are generally the ones to blame - not the end group selling them on. For example, I got my Goodyear F1 asyms from Tirerack shipped over here for the same price as the price that the importer would sell them to the tyre place.

In fact, the tyre fitter I dealt with bought his tyres from tire rack despite getting them at near to cost price, because it worked out that much cheaper for him.

For too long the importers/head office has seen Australia as a captive market, where you couldn't shop around as the big groups controlled what stock actually came into the country. That is all changing now with the rise of online shopping.

Oh - and how can it take 8 days for 4 tyres to come from the US, when I was told my tyres weren't in stock and it would be at least 5 weeks before they came from melbourne? Not the fault of the tyre place - once again, they get the blame for something beyond their control.

[brad]

Just went for a regular wheel alignment the other day and decided to get a quote on the tyres. Kmart auto quoted me $400 for a RE050 or $409 for the RE050A. For the F1 assymetric they wanted $439! And all this $$ is for the 17" Denvers...
You would be foolish to buy anything from KTAS that wasn't on special. The GM of KTAS was my boss at Goodyear in the early '80s. He is a grand master at turning a profit & extracting money from peoples wallets. (Hi John! Still into Kung Fu movies?)

[MkVIGTI]

My RE050s still have some tread left. At the current rate it should last me til arnd 35,000kms. How much would the shipping cost if you purchase from Tirerack? And there would be no problems with customs (i.e. import tax)?

[AdamD]

My RE050s still have some tread left. At the current rate it should last me til arnd 35,000kms. How much would the shipping cost if you purchase from Tirerack? And there would be no problems with customs (i.e. import tax)?

I paid roughly $300 for shipping of four 18" tyres from Tirerack. As long as the cost of the tyres (excluding shipping) is under AU$1,000 (and that value is declared as such), it's not subject to duty or GST.

[Footguy]

I shipped 4 x 18 inch Goodyear F1 asymmetrics and the eibach prosystem for my mk6 gti from tire rack.... Came to about $1600 AUD plus around $300 in customs etc.

Somehow got the shipping for $250 for the wheels and suspension kit, which is bloody heavy.

Only thing to note is that the F1 tyres are 2007 vintage. Getting towards the older side....Got them put on last week and they seem fine.

[AdamD]

Only thing to note is that the F1 tyres are 2007 vintage. Getting towards the older side....Got them put on last week and they seem fine.

Still very close to the best of the pack though (see here (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/mk6-tyre-thread-28107-10.html#post603834)), and great value from Tirerack. I paid under $1200 all up, including tyres, shipping, mounting and full wheel alignment.

[chorrylan]

I shipped 4 x 18 inch Goodyear F1 asymmetrics and the eibach prosystem for my mk6 gti from tire rack.... Came to about $1600 AUD plus around $300 in customs etc.
Somehow got the shipping for $250 for the wheels and suspension kit, which is bloody heavy.


am I missing something obvious or woudl you have saved (at least) $50 by buying it and getting it shipped as two separate orders (upt to $250 extra shipping but saving $300 on customs?)

[Corey_R]

am I missing something obvious or woudl you have saved (at least) $50 by buying it and getting it shipped as two separate orders (upt to $250 extra shipping but saving $300 on customs?)

Shipping in two separate orders does not necessarily work...
If they notice that you've split the orders, not only will they still charge you for GST etc, but they'll probably increase the customs handling fees!
You'd have to separate the order over a week or so - and even then, cross your fingers :)

[nat225]

Shipping in two separate orders does not necessarily work...
If they notice that you've split the orders, not only will they still charge you for GST etc, but they'll probably increase the customs handling fees!
You'd have to separate the order over a week or so - and even then, cross your fingers :)

ship one order to office address and ship another one to wife's name at home address or sister's address... i wonder if this would work :p

[dave_r]

Oh - and how can it take 8 days for 4 tyres to come from the US, when I was told my tyres weren't in stock and it would be at least 5 weeks before they came from melbourne? Not the fault of the tyre place - once again, they get the blame for something beyond their control.
Great point, I've been waiting nearly 5 weeks to get a single ****ing 17" conti replacement for the polo after an unrepairable puncture. How hard is it for these monkeys to get a tyre that is fitted to how many cars from VW let alone other makes?

[Brian]

My mate waited 10 weeks for a full set of 17 inch conti sport 3 for his Renault Sport 225. Lucky he had plenty of tread left on the old ones.
Why would you bother when there are so many better or equivalent tires out there for much less dollars and readily available?
Having driven the car hard, I would back the Khumos on my Golf against them for half the money.

[nat225]

i'm sure there are good reasons why Merc cars tend to have Continental and Bridgestone tyres instead of Kumho.

But, it's good to have Korean tyres for 'bang for your bucks' buy.

[Footguy]

Yeah, that was the original intention, but as the shipping was so cheap together it worked out to about the same in the end, plus saved me going through the trouble of sending the "parcels" to different addresses...

Plus i can claim some of the taxes through my business...

[MIRSAD]

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 is here:

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 is here - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Goodyear-Eagle-F1-Asymmetric-2-is-here.htm)

[Brian]

i'm sure there are good reasons why Merc cars tend to have Continental and Bridgestone tyres instead of Kumho.

But, it's good to have Korean tyres for 'bang for your bucks' buy.
Probably the same reasons why Mercs are taxis in Europe. No excessive duties, markups from wholesalers and retailers and import duties in Oz. Thats why Tirerack is so appealing!
As for country of origin, your Contis can come from many places including Germany, (which I'm sure you'd like to think thats where they're from), Romania, Turkey, Mexico and Slovakia without going into too much searching.
Your Brigestones , however come from all over the world: viz
Bridgestone's global locations

Bridgestone has major manufacturing plants in many countries around the world. As of 2007, Bridgestone has 57 tyre plants, 98 diversified product plants, and 4 major technical centers globally. Some of the major plants are located in:
EUROPE AMERICAS ASIA/OCEANIA MIDDLE EAST/AFRICA
Italy North America Japan Iran
Hungary Argentina Australia (closing by April 2010)
Poland Brazil New Zealand (closed December 2009) South Africa
Spain Costa Rica China Liberia (raw materials)
France Mexico India
Belgium Venezuela Indonesia
Turkey Canada South Korea
United States Taiwan
Thailand
Malaysia
Bangladesh

So your snide innuendo re the quality of anything (be it tires) coming from Korea is quite mute my friend. I'd even suggest that a fair bit of the electronics in the European cars is sourced in Asia. Go figure your "European quality"

Brian

[Ideo]

But the simple fact is that with limited exceptions (Kumho KU36 and ummm) Korean tyres offer decent performance. But not earth shattering by any means.

Good bargain buy, but then tyres are the one thing I refuse to skimp on. Who knows what an extra 8m in braking distance will mean when you really need it...

[Cossor]

But the simple fact is that with limited exceptions (Kumho KU36 and ummm) Korean tyres offer decent performance. But not earth shattering by any means.

Good bargain buy, but then tyres are the one thing I refuse to skimp on. Who knows what an extra 8m in braking distance will mean when you really need it...

Yes!! Stopping distance, especially in the wet most important. BUT sadly the car behind forgets this. :facepalm: ( And yes, I always looked behind me when stopping in busy traffic, and several times moved forward just enough :P ) (Alas, :mad: too many times)

BUT one thing appears to be ignored in this thread, is ROAD SURFACE NOISE !!

After all, the present Golf is claimed to be very very quiet, apart from noise due to road surface condition.

A quality car is also a car in which passengers can have a quiet conversation. Golf fits this requirement, apart from road noise on "Coarse chip road surfaces"

In this respect, not much better than my previous Toyota Corolla fitted with Brigestone tyres (Softer rubber, more grip, less noise than std tyres).

My Year11 118TSI (With"ACC") arrived with with Dunlop "Sport" 205155R16 tyres

My daughter's MkV Trendline Diesel Golf is a lot quieter re road noise.
This has Michelin tyres.

Comments anyone?

Should I wait to wear em out, or spend another $1000.00 to swap over?

[dave_r]

Why would you bother when there are so many better or equivalent tires out there for much less dollars and readily available?
Quite simply because the car already has 3 near new continentals and replacing a single tyre with a different brand is stupid (and probably unroadworthy)

[Corey_R]

Quite simply because the car already has 3 near new continentals and replacing a single tyre with a different brand is stupid (and probably unroadworthy)

I'm almost positive that it is law that you must have like for like on the same axle. So yes, that would be unroadworthy to have a single tyre as another brand. It's fine to have 2 of one brand at the front and 2 of another brand at the back though.

[Diesel_vert]

Quite simply because the car already has 3 near new continentals and replacing a single tyre with a different brand is stupid (and probably unroadworthy)

Not in Victoria.


From the VicRoads website (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/SafetyAndRules/SaferVehicles/VehicleDesignStandardsAndAccessories/VehicleStandardsInformaiton.htm), on page 3 of the Roadworthiness Requirements document [PDF, 377 KB] (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/AA944BA2-1210-460F-94BF-069159D224F8/0/VSI26web.pdf):




"For vehicles up to 4.5 tonne GVM fitted with passenger car tyres and manufactured after 1 January 1973, all tyres fitted to the road wheels must be of the same carcass construction (i.e. radial ply, cross ply, bias belted, etc) but may have a different tread pattern."

[joec]

Has anyone notice that the manual has no mention bout tyres alignment?

[Corey_R]

Do you mean wheel alignment?

[brad]

After all, the present Golf is claimed to be very very quiet, apart from noise due to road surface condition.

A quality car is also a car in which passengers can have a quiet conversation. Golf fits this requirement, apart from road noise on "Coarse chip road surfaces"


My Year11 118TSI (With"ACC") arrived with with Dunlop "Sport" 205155R16 tyres

My daughter's MkV Trendline Diesel Golf is a lot quieter re road noise.
This has Michelin tyres.

Comments anyone?

Should I wait to wear em out, or spend another $1000.00 to swap over?

Up to you & what you can stand I guess. I can't see why it would cost $1000 for a set of 205/55x16.
Michelin PS3 will cost you ~$750
Pirelli P7 ~$600

Sell the Dunlops on eBay or try & get the dealer to trade them in

The CSC2 I had on the Octy got progressively louder as they wore down. I now have Michelin Primacy HP and the silence is wonderful.


Quite simply because the car already has 3 near new continentals and replacing a single tyre with a different brand is stupid (and probably unroadworthy)
odd tyres on the same axle may unbalance the car slightly but it is not illegal providing they are the same constuction (eg: both steel belt radials). You can even run different sizes - spacesaver spares are legal.


I'm almost positive that it is law that you must have like for like on the same axle. So yes, that would be unroadworthy to have a single tyre as another brand. It's fine to have 2 of one brand at the front and 2 of another brand at the back though.
No, you can mix brands on the same axle but it isn't good practice

Has anyone notice that the manual has no mention bout tyres alignment?
Wheel alignment specifications aren't one of the service items that most owners would need. People in the trade either have the specs in their machine, have access to a specification database or adjust the alignment to offset existing tyre wear or achieve handling characteristics IAW the owners wishes. In my last couple of years on the tools, I think I referred to the spec book maybe a dozen times. Mostly, I new what it should be or I was correcting a problem & threw the manufacturers specs out the window (yes, I'm talking to you Toyota & Mercedes, you idiots)

[joec]

Do you mean wheel alignment?

Oh yeah...after reading one of the post about tyres(UK) and tires(US), it just got stuck in my head.

Anyway i just installed some mud guard with of course having the need to take off the wheels to do so. Just wondering if anyone has done wheel alignment on their Golf?

[Cossor]

[QUOTE=brad;624270]Up to you & what you can stand I guess. I can't see why it would cost $1000 for a set of 205/55x16.
Michelin PS3 will cost you ~$750
Pirelli P7 ~$600

Sell the Dunlops on eBay or try & get the dealer to trade them in

The CSC2 I had on the Octy got progressively louder as they wore down. I now have Michelin Primacy HP and the silence is wonderful.
QUOTE]

Thanks Brad
This is good news, Road surface noise reduces the "Rolls Royce" fantasy.
Was very suspicious re tyres fitted, although they do perform well on corners.
(Have to be careful, otherwise start driving like a "newby" in Top Gear)

[hooba]

Just wondering if anyone has done wheel alignment on their Golf?

Yes, and IMHO it is best value for money mod you can do to your new Golf. The settings are usually out when new, and the alignment made my car's turn in far more crisp and responsive. Then there is also the issue of premature tyre wear....

[MkVIGTI]

Quite simply because the car already has 3 near new continentals and replacing a single tyre with a different brand is stupid (and probably unroadworthy)

My old car also had tyres from different brands on the same axle, and this was done by the road worthy people!

[MIRSAD]

First 2011 - European (subjective) Summer Tyre Test - Bridgestone Potenza S001, Continental Sport Contact 5P and Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2

2011 Subjective shootout 255 40 19 Max Performance Summer Tyres - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Subjective-shootout-255-40-19-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyres.htm)

[Corey_R]

Coolies...
I can't wait to see a good roundup (in evo or something) with those 3 plus the Michelin PS3s

[MkVIGTI]

Just saw the Bridgestone catalogue yesterday and the 225/45/R17 Potenza RE050 that I have costs $269!

[Corey_R]

Meh. They're such crap tyres... can't wait till I've worn mine out on the R :)

[wooduck]

Meh. They're such crap tyres... can't wait till I've worn mine out on the R :)

Then what would you get ?

[Corey_R]

In recent years the tyres to get have been the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric, the Continental CSC3, or Michelen PS2 (according to results from numerous mag round ups and reviews on sites like Tire rack). The Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric has usually been the "best all rounder" and also the best to buy since it's always been quite a bit less $ than the others.

With the most recent updates, it seems that this is still the pick of the crop:
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2, the Continental CSC5P, or Michelen PS3

When it comes to Golf's though, the CSC5P is only suitable for the 19" Talladegas.
Tirerack doesn't yet have the F1 Asymmetric 2, and they've only got a limited selection (none suitable for the Golf) of the PS3 - however, several forum members have already acquired their PS3's elsewhere (locally I believe) and have been quite happy with the price.... maybe they could let us know where!

[MkVIGTI]

I thought the RE050s are alright, pretty stable even in the wet. But I'm more surprised that Kmart Auto quoted me $400 for these when Bridgestone sells them for under $300!

[v0a]

I thought the RE050s are alright, pretty stable even in the wet. But I'm more surprised that Kmart Auto quoted me $400 for these when Bridgestone sells them for under $300!

You may have been quoted RE050A's not the RE050 which are less than $300

[hooba]

Meh. They're such crap tyres... can't wait till I've worn mine out on the R :)

Harsh.

I think a more accurate assessment is that there are better (& more expensive) high performance tyres out there. :cool:

[Corey_R]

Harsh.

I think a more accurate assessment is that there are better (& more expensive) high performance tyres out there. :cool:

Not at all...They're just crap, ESPECIALLY for the money:
225/45ZR17 91W Bridgestone Potenza RE050 $188 each.
225/45R17 94Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $165 each.

225/40ZR18 88Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050 $210 each
225/40R18 92Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050A $217 each
225/40R18 92Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $198 each

235/35R19 91W Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position $284 each
235/35R19 91Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $230 each

So those are the 3 sizes for the GTI and R. At each size, the Bridgestone are crap, and are more expensive than the far superior Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric.

[Ideo]

The Goodyear Eagle F1 asyms are the best tyre I have ever had.

Would get them again above any other tyre on the market.

[nat225]

Not at all...They're just crap, ESPECIALLY for the money:
....

225/40ZR18 88Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050 $210 each

..

i think this one is illegal for a Golf, load rating is only 88. but it's the OEM for civic type R (FN2R).

92Y is the minimum.

i found my re050a to be a bit slippery in the rain, but i had 38psi and need to be easier on the pedal during rain :rolleyes:

[Corey_R]

It depends on the Golf... but yeah, I know it's a bit low, hence why I put the 050A alternative. Either way, the message is DO NOT buy them because they suck for the money.

[brad]

I think the RE050A was good in its' day but it's now 5 years old isn't it? The competitors have caught up or done better.

Unfortunately Bridgestone still charges a premium out in retail land because the RE050A comes as OEM for so many cars (Subaru, Holdens, Mondeos, etc) and (IIRC) 30% of drivers refit the OEM tyre, so you have an almost guaranteed market & you can bend people over as well.

[v0a]

In the end it comes down to what you want

How much money you have to spend..
How long you want them to last..
How grippy you want them to be..
How good you want them to be in the dry..
How good you want them to be in the wet..
How quiet you want them to be..

I've always had Yokohama Ad08's until i got my golf, i run bs re-11 now (only because load rating is 88 and we need 92), was going to go nitto nt-05's but with 5-6mm of tread i knew it wasnt going to last long. Re-11 less grip but will last longer, still eat re050a, goodyear f1

[v0a]

92Y is the minimum.



I dont think this is correct. Load rating of 92 must be met and cannot be lower!, however speed rating can vary, you must have tyres which are at least 92N (this is NSW for you guys) and 92S (for vic guys) legally however. N being more than 140km/h and S being more than 180km/h.

[MkVIGTI]

You may have been quoted RE050A's not the RE050 which are less than $300

No, they quoted my $400 for the RE050 and $409 for the RE050A

[MkVIGTI]

Not at all...They're just crap, ESPECIALLY for the money:
225/45ZR17 91W Bridgestone Potenza RE050 $188 each.
225/45R17 94Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $165 each.

225/40ZR18 88Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050 $210 each
225/40R18 92Y Bridgestone Potenza RE050A $217 each
225/40R18 92Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $198 each

235/35R19 91W Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position $284 each
235/35R19 91Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $230 each

So those are the 3 sizes for the GTI and R. At each size, the Bridgestone are crap, and are more expensive than the far superior Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric.

These are the prices on Tirerack I assume?

[Corey_R]

Yes... sorry... I did have that in my post at some point, but must've accidently deleted that line during the formatting...

[DionM]

Okay I've got a MkV Jetta (2.0T DSG) but seems this is "the" tyre thread.

My RE050As (225/40 R18s) are pretty much shagged after 13000kms so looking at options.

Nitto NT-05 gets good mentions but are they available in Oz? I rang a couple of tyre dealers in BNE but they didn't stock Nitto.

Next choice I guess is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asyms ?

I'm after outright performance - tired of not having any traction on launches and cornering.

Not too concerned with wear rates - don't do many kms. Not too concerned with wet performance - I'll take the other car if its raining.

[Corey_R]

If you're not too concerned with tyre wear or wet performance, and are considering the Nitto semi-slicks, then there are a few brands locally which you could try.

Federal have a nice and cheap semi-slick which is probably comparable to the Nitto.
A bit further up the performance and price range you have things like the Hankook Ventus Z221. The APR Stage 3 Golf GTI (and R? and Polo GTI in this months Motor Magazine) run them.

I did a search for them on the Hankook Australia site and couldn't find them though. So maybe you could ask APR Australia or Harding Performance where they're sourcing theirs from.

[DionM]

Thanks. That Hankook is quite pricey it seems!

The Federal 595RS-R in the size I want doesn't have the right load rating unfortunately.

[AdamD]

My RE050As (225/40 R18s) are pretty much shagged after 13000kms so looking at options... I'm after outright performance - tired of not having any traction on launches and cornering.

Damn, 13,000km... you must be really hard on your tyres, and/or have some serious alignment issues! I've been pretty damn brutal on a couple of sets on other cars in the (fairly recent) past, but have never worn a set in under 20,000. Maybe the Jetta's set up too soft?

If budget's not a huge issue, how about a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cups (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup&partnum=24YR8SPORTCUP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes)? $1150 from Tirerack, plus shipping (say $300), plus duty. Wouldn't be cheap, but a great tyre.

[DionM]

Damn, 13,000km... you must be really hard on your tyres, and/or have some serious alignment issues! I've been pretty damn brutal on a couple of sets on other cars in the (fairly recent) past, but have never worn a set in under 20,000. Maybe the Jetta's set up too soft?


They've worn well - been balanced and rotated as needed and no alignmenti ssues. I was a bit surprised too but then again I do make use of the car ...


If budget's not a huge issue, how about a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cups (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup&partnum=24YR8SPORTCUP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes)? $1150 from Tirerack, plus shipping (say $300), plus duty. Wouldn't be cheap, but a great tyre.

Hmmm they're in 235/40 ... close size. I'll do some research.

I guess the appeal with the Eagle F1s is they come on sale now and then at Goodyear with their buy 3 get 1 free deal, which drops the price by 25%.

[Corey_R]

Is that enough to make them cheaper than purchasing from Tirerack the Goodyear's anyway?

[DionM]

Is that enough to make them cheaper than purchasing from Tirerack the Goodyear's anyway?

Yes. Shipping is not cheap and over the $1k mark you have to factor in 10% GST.

The Eagle F1 Asyms are $400ea in 225/40, so its $1200 for the buy 3 get 1 free deal.

Price is not the only factor, but when a set is 25% cheaper than the others it makes it a bit harder.

[TDI DSG]

Okay I've got a MkV Jetta (2.0T DSG) but seems this is "the" tyre thread.

My RE050As (225/40 R18s) are pretty much shagged after 13000kms so looking at options.

Nitto NT-05 gets good mentions but are they available in Oz? I rang a couple of tyre dealers in BNE but they didn't stock Nitto.

Next choice I guess is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asyms ?

I'm after outright performance - tired of not having any traction on launches and cornering.

Not too concerned with wear rates - don't do many kms. Not too concerned with wet performance - I'll take the other car if its raining.

If your not concerned with wear rates, go and find your local motorsport tyre dealer and buy some road legal race tyres. They will be the type of tyres used for club car racing and targa tas type events.
These will grip far better than any of the high performance road tyres being mentioned and most likely be a fair bit cheaper too.
You will most likely get 10K out of them - the vast majority of drivers would find that unacceptable, but you sound like you may not given the increased grip on offer.

[Corey_R]

Yes. Shipping is not cheap and over the $1k mark you have to factor in 10% GST.

The Eagle F1 Asyms are $400ea in 225/40, so its $1200 for the buy 3 get 1 free deal.

Price is not the only factor, but when a set is 25% cheaper than the others it makes it a bit harder.

Aaah, so it's cheaper to purchase from Tirerack. Ta

[AdamD]

Yes. Shipping is not cheap and over the $1k mark you have to factor in 10% GST.

The Eagle F1 Asyms are $400ea in 225/40, so its $1200 for the buy 3 get 1 free deal.

Price is not the only factor, but when a set is 25% cheaper than the others it makes it a bit harder.

When I bought my Eagle F1 Asymmetrics from Tirerack it cost me under $1200 all up, including shipping, fitting and alignment. The Australian dollar is now stronger than it was too.

I wouldn't want to dissuade you from getting the Goodyear - they're a great tyre and I'm happy I purchased mine - but I'm not sure they'll give you the outright performance that'd suit you (given your stated criteria and the useful life of your existing boots).

[DionM]

If your not concerned with wear rates, go and find your local motorsport tyre dealer and buy some road legal race tyres. They will be the type of tyres used for club car racing and targa tas type events.
These will grip far better than any of the high performance road tyres being mentioned and most likely be a fair bit cheaper too.
You will most likely get 10K out of them - the vast majority of drivers would find that unacceptable, but you sound like you may not given the increased grip on offer.

Thanks, I might investigate that option.


Aaah, so it's cheaper to purchase from Tirerack. Ta

Just to clarify: 225/40R18 92Y $193.00 (ea.) = $772 USD.
From their email: Shipping cost for 4 of these is $343.24 USD
Total is $1115. Plus 10% GST takes it to around $1200.
So without the GY buy 3 get 1 "deal" yes it is much cheaper to buy from tirerack. But with the deal its about the same.


When I bought my Eagle F1 Asymmetrics from Tirerack it cost me under $1200 all up, including shipping, fitting and alignment. The Australian dollar is now stronger than it was too.

I wouldn't want to dissuade you from getting the Goodyear - they're a great tyre and I'm happy I purchased mine - but I'm not sure they'll give you the outright performance that'd suit you (given your stated criteria and the useful life of your existing boots).

See above. What did you pay for shipping?

Fair comment about the GY. They do seem to rate well in reviews? Those Michelins don't come in the right size for the Jetta ... 235/40 ... its a little oversize.

[AdamD]

Total is $1115. Plus 10% GST takes it to around $1200.

You only pay duties and GST if the value of the goods is over $1000. So $1115 is it (plus fitting and balancing locally). I paid USD300 for shipping.


Fair comment about the GY. They do seem to rate well in reviews? Those Michelins don't come in the right size for the Jetta ... 235/40 ... its a little oversize.

I thought they did a 225/40 in the cup?

[DionM]

You only pay duties and GST if the value of the goods is over $1000. So $1115 is it (plus fitting and balancing locally). I paid USD300 for shipping.


Goods + shipping drives the tax rate ... When buying over the internet (http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp#Calculating)
Not sure what your point is here? I agree tirerack is cheaper? But in the case of a 25% off sale, it works out about the same.


I thought they did a 225/40 in the cup?

Not on the tirerack site?

[Corey_R]

Goods + shipping drives the tax rate ... When buying over the internet (http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp#Calculating)
Not sure what your point is here? I agree tirerack is cheaper? But in the case of a 25% off sale, it works out about the same.

Not quite. As per your link:

Duty is determined on the Customs value of the goods. The Customs value of the goods is usually the amount you paid for your goods, converted to Australian currency. The exchange rate that is used is the rate applied on the day the goods were posted or exported.

That means that if the value of the items is below $1000 you do not pay GST.

HOWEVER, if the value of the items is above $1000, then yes, you pay GST on the items + the shipping + customs fees.
Therefore, AdamD's assessment is correct.

[DionM]

Okay, my mistake. I missed the subtle point:


Duty, GST and other taxes are calculated and payable when you make an import declaration for goods that have a value above A$1000 or if you import alcohol and/or tobacco products.

I just read this bit:


GST is paid on the Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI).

No need for bolding.

Still doesn't make it that much cheaper than buying locally when the sale is on.

[Corey_R]

No problems DionM. Yeah, it's not much cheaper than when they're on sale in Australia. Shipping to Australia has gotten more expensive since last time I looked (as AdamD said, he only paid $300 for shipping), and the F1's have gotten cheaper to purchase in Australia (cause they were closer to $500 each when I last checked). Low US$ values and high AU$ values will do that I guess :)

[brad]

Tempe Tyres sell Nitto

[Diesel_vert]

Okay I've got a MkV Jetta (2.0T DSG) but seems this is "the" tyre thread.

My RE050As (225/40 R18s) are pretty much shagged after 13000kms so looking at options.

Nitto NT-05 gets good mentions but are they available in Oz? I rang a couple of tyre dealers in BNE but they didn't stock Nitto.

Next choice I guess is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asyms ?

I'm after outright performance - tired of not having any traction on launches and cornering.

Not too concerned with wear rates - don't do many kms. Not too concerned with wet performance - I'll take the other car if its raining.

Firstly, you have road tyres which we are all familiar with.

Bridgestone Potenza S001
Continental Sport Contact 5
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Pirelli P Zero


Secondly, these tyres sacrifice some road tyre characteristics for more dry performance and can handle the odd track day or two, but aren't really true track tyres (see next category). More like a road tyre that's able to cope with the track.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Hankook Ventus RS-3 (Z222)
Kumho Ecsta XS (KU36)
Nitto NT05
Yokohama Advan Neova AD08


Lastly, these are track tyres that can legally be used on the road if necessary. Expensive, very short lifespan, some come with different compounds, most need temperatures from track running to reach their true performance. More like a track tyre that's able to cope with the road.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11S / RE55S
Dunlop Direzza DZ03G
Hankook Ventus TD (Z221)
Kumho Ecsta V70A
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup / Cup+
Nitto NT01
Pirelli P Zero Corsa / Trofeo
Toyo Proxes RA-1 / R888
Yokohama Advan A048 / A050


As you progress into the next category, you get more dry grip & handling, less aquaplaning resistance, increased wear & noise, etc and vice-versa.


The best road tyre at the moment is the new Michelin Pilot Super Sport, which are unbeatable in dry conditions IMO. USD 228.00 each for "225/40 ZR18 (92Y) XL" from Tire Rack. I reckon the only way to improve on these (for dry performance) is to buy tyres from the next category.

[MkVIGTI]

The 2011 tire test from the latest Wheels had the Pilot Sport 3 as the best tire. But they tested only a few tires.

[Diesel_vert]

The PSS is Michelin's flagship road tyre, but in any case, you'll definitely be better off on these - especially if dry performance is priority.

[hooba]

The 2011 tire test from the latest Wheels had the Pilot Sport 3 as the best tire. But they tested only a few tires.

It is a good article and worth a read if you are looking at getting some new 18" tyres, unfortunately there were no Goodyear Eagles on the test.

[MIRSAD]

... few more tests from Europe:

Tyre reviews, tests and ratings - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/)

[Corey_R]

The best road tyre at the moment is the new Michelin Pilot Super Sport, which are unbeatable in dry conditions IMO. USD 228.00 each for "225/40 ZR18 (92Y) XL" from Tire Rack. I reckon the only way to improve on these (for dry performance) is to buy tyres from the next category.

Yeah - this review would support that:
2011 Autoreview Max Performance Summer Tyre Test - tyre reviews, the online tyre guide (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Autoreview-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm)

Whilst the Michelin Pilot Super Sport only came in 6th overall (Goodyear Eage F1 Asy 1 came #4th and Conti SC5 came #1st), the Michelin PSS came 1st in the dry performance category.

Positive: Best dry handling, fastest dry lap time, best steering feel
Negative: Poor resistance to aquaplaning, low level of comfort
Overall: The Michelin Pilot Super Sport is a good example of how it's extremely difficult to achieve excellent in all areas. Michelin have prioritised dry grip and steering feedback with the Pilot Super Sport, giving the tyre the best dry lap time and handling, at the expense of wet performance and comfort.

[DionM]

Thanks for the links ...

Interesting the breakdown in tyre performance ... That Pilot Super Sport does sound like a good option for me where I'm happy to compromise for dry performance. If its raining cats and dogs I'll back off, or just take my 4WD and leave the Jetta at home.

[DeanoTDI]

Replaced my 17" Michelin's on the front at about 49 000km's on my 103TDI. The Michelin's were way overpriced ($570 each!) so some iddentical sized Yokahama's got put on, which are excellent tyres.

Anyway the tyre service centre did a wheel alignment, without asking but I did remember it was part of their package and managed to offset the steering wheel. I got this fixed at VW during a service, and then went back to the Tyre Service for a Balance & Rotation just over a week ago, and low and behold they did another friggin Wheel Alignment and once again off set the steering wheel. I am currently taking this up with Bob Jane Head Office aswell as some other issues I had with the service at their centre, has anyone else experienced the same issue?

Basically when the wheels are dead straight, the steering wheel is about 2-3 degrees off centre (leaning to the right). This becomes really frustrating when you think about it, but considering I drive buses everyday which have even worse wheel alignments than the car I adapt to it pretty quickly. Trying to get it fixed now, through some complaining etc.

[Corey_R]

I've heard from a number of other Golf owners that "tyre outlet retail chains" can be very hit and miss with the European cars when it comes to wheel alignment. A few R32 owners have stated that you're basically asking for trouble getting them to touch the alignment on them because of the setup...

I personally only get a tyre outlet to balance the wheels when fitting them. I leave the alignment task to the VW dealer or specialist.

[nat225]

Replaced my 17" Michelin's on the front at about 49 000km's on my 103TDI. The Michelin's were way overpriced ($570 each!) so some iddentical sized Yokahama's got put on, which are excellent tyres.

Anyway the tyre service centre did a wheel alignment, without asking but I did remember it was part of their package and managed to offset the steering wheel. I got this fixed at VW during a service, and then went back to the Tyre Service for a Balance & Rotation just over a week ago, and low and behold they did another friggin Wheel Alignment and once again off set the steering wheel. I am currently taking this up with Bob Jane Head Office aswell as some other issues I had with the service at their centre, has anyone else experienced the same issue?

Basically when the wheels are dead straight, the steering wheel is about 2-3 degrees off centre (leaning to the right). This becomes really frustrating when you think about it, but considering I drive buses everyday which have even worse wheel alignments than the car I adapt to it pretty quickly. Trying to get it fixed now, through some complaining etc.

I'm also experiencing a similar issue, when the driving straight on a road that is slightly tilted, the steering wheel is about 2-3 degrees off centre (leaning to the right)...

plan to get it fixed / done properly at heasmans or spinning wheels later this month after sway bars install.

i wonder if it's the effect of having a camber though...

[TDI DSG]

I've heard from a number of other Golf owners that "tyre outlet retail chains" can be very hit and miss with the European cars when it comes to wheel alignment. A few R32 owners have stated that you're basically asking for trouble getting them to touch the alignment on them because of the setup...

I personally only get a tyre outlet to balance the wheels when fitting them. I leave the alignment task to the VW dealer or specialist.

I dont think it's got anything to do with being european - the local tyre place that the VW dealer use is no better.

I recently took my car (non vw) there for an alignment and when asked why the camber was not corrected, I was told "we dont do that, we only do toe - shims would take us too long"
Needless to say I did not pay ( guy was embaressed to ask for payment in the end), and wont be going back !

[MoppaChoppa]

Hi guys,

Can anyone point me towards a definitive thread on Mk6 GTI wheel and tyre size options? I'm looking to upgrade the stock 17" Denvers on our new Mk6 but the mix of opinions out there on what will fit, rub, what won't etc. is pretty confusing.

Ideally I don't want to mod the car. Options I'm looking at are:


Aftermarket Talledega - 18s or 19s.

OEM VW Interlagos - 18s

Aftermarket Audi R8 V10s - 18s or 19s.

OEM Detroits as a last option - 18s


Any advice or direction greatly appreciated!

[Man In Black (MIB)]

Hi Guys,

need help. I've slightly flattened the inside of one of my rims on a nasty country road pot hole. It burst the tire but I had to replace them anyway so not so bothered about that part. However, after I got new tyres a wobble in the back end between 70-80km/h turned out to be a flat spotted rim.

Could be repaired but I don’t relish the thought of running the car on a space saver for two weeks.

So I rang a local dealer’s spare parts Dept and was quoted $1,300 for a new 18” standard Golf R rim.

Anyone know of any cheaper deals around Sydney/Canberra as the space saver is suddenly looking attractive?

Thanks.

[Corey_R]

From the http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/official-mk6-forum-important-threads-posts-index-**look-here-first**-59253.html thread, this is the place for tyre/wheel/rim questions in this subforum.

The rim isn't "flat spotted" - that's what happens to tyres if you lock one up and smoke it under braking. The rim is buckled :(
You can try other dealer's spare parts dept. They can vary in price. Also, if you have the part number, you could search on overseas sites like ECS Tuning etc. Failing this, search local forums' for sale areas to see if anyone is selling their stock Talladegas. Sometimes you'll get someone resigned to selling them individually.

Other than that mate... you'll either need to just take the hit, or consider purchasing replicas. Although I'm not sure that would be advisable to replace just a single wheel with a replica due to very likely differences in weight etc. It wouldn't be a good idea to have different weight wheels on the one axle.

[Man In Black (MIB)]

Thanks Corey.

I agree "flat spotted" isn't the right language but that's what the Jax Tyre fitters describded it as.

Rather than get a new one I'm going to investigate getting it repaired as the wobble it produces is slight and only discerable from 70-80, and even then on a very smoth road. Will report back how it went as others may come across this too at some stage.

Thanks again.

[nat225]

Hi Guys,

need help. I've slightly flattened the inside of one of my rims on a nasty country road pot hole. It burst the tire but I had to replace them anyway so not so bothered about that part. However, after I got new tyres a wobble in the back end between 70-80km/h turned out to be a flat spotted rim.

Could be repaired but I don’t relish the thought of running the car on a space saver for two weeks.

So I rang a local dealer’s spare parts Dept and was quoted $1,300 for a new 18” standard Golf R rim.

Anyone know of any cheaper deals around Sydney/Canberra as the space saver is suddenly looking attractive?

Thanks.

or you can change all four to this:

Enkei PF01 (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?5203-Enkei-PF01)

it's only 8kg each compared to the OEM Tallageda's.. 12kg?

[dave_r]

I'd say you were quoted wrong also, $1300 is the RRP for a new 19" which you should be able to get for a few $100 less. I'd expect an 18" to be cheaper again if only slightly.

I wouldn't be driving on a slightly farked wheel too long, if at all. Go past a tyre joint and have them balance the wheel, if its farked it will stand out pretty quick. If the wheel can be repaired, it should be around $150-200.

[orkers]

Anyone notice the latest pics of the all-new 911 (991-series) - the wheels on that look exactly like Talladegas - maybe they borrowed the wheels from the VAG stable?

[fully]

Hi all, I'm just wondering if anyone has pics of a mk6 golf 118tsi, or lower models with 17 or 18 inch alloy wheels, I'm curious to see what they look like with standard ride height, non sports pack. ..:cool:

Thank you.

[Corey_R]

As per The MK6 Index Thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/official-mk6-forum-important-threads-posts-index-**look-here-first**-59253.html), this is the place for wheel / rim discussion. There is also a dedicated Wheels & Suspension forum (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f39/) which is why I try and keep the the discussion which isn't in there, in this one place rather than having 5000 wheel threads in the MK6 forum.

Another place where you can find plenty of pictures is, of course, in the MK6 Golf Picture Thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/official-golf-mk6-picture-thread-2nd-edition-52637.html).

[fully]

I've looked thru the mk6 golf pic thread, but there seems to be more typing than pics, and most are Gti's or Rs, or 118s with sports packs, i even tried google and car sales, no luck, its why i posted it here :)

[nat225]

Hi all, I'm just wondering if anyone has pics of a mk6 golf 118tsi, or lower models with 17 or 18 inch alloy wheels, I'm curious to see what they look like with standard ride height, non sports pack. ..:cool:

Thank you.

there you go, on stock suspension (non sport pack) and OEM EOS wheels (17x7.5 offset +47):
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/08/4937911864_b058f0d224_b-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/08/4937323725_7c13d0c412_b-1.jpg

then with OEM GTI suspension:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/08/5110430956_9cf9534ccb_b-1.jpg

[fully]

Thanks Nat, looks good, i must say it looks better lowered, but i really didn't want to go down that road, how does it ride with the Gti suspension???

[Corey_R]

I've looked thru the mk6 golf pic thread, but there seems to be more typing than pics, and most are Gti's or Rs, or 118s with sports packs, i even tried google and car sales, no luck, its why i posted it here :)

There is a "Picture Discussion thread", obviously the one you've seen, and there is a "Picture Thread" which has no discussion, just pictures (apart from the original text which accompanied the pictures). If you'd bothered to click on the link I provided in my post, you'd have found that... :)

[russ83]

Anyone else have very noisy Bridgestone Potenza RE050's on their 118TSI? (I've only done 24,000km)

[Corey_R]

I have them on my Golf R. I've only done 8500km, and I must say, I've never owned a car which is louder over the "worn brownish" sections of the F3 motorway than this car with those tyres.

[Ideo]

I have them on my Golf R. I've only done 8500km, and I must say, I've never owned a car which is louder over the "worn brownish" sections of the F3 motorway than this car with those tyres.

Hideous things.

I'm on similar kms and to be honest I thought I had shot bearings at one stage.

[nat225]

Anyone else have very noisy Bridgestone Potenza RE050's on their 118TSI? (I've only done 24,000km)

24000km is actually pretty good for the RE050 with wear rating of 140., even Advan Neova AD08 comes in 180.

all tyres become noisier as the thread blocks become thinner, but some are worse than the other.

a touring or all season type of tyres would be quieter, but less performance. eg: Turanza ER30, Michelin Primacy HP, etc...

i have the Primacy HP on the Accord Euro and the ride is still very quiet with 15000kms travel done so far... and someone claimed to have lasted it up to 50,000kms with wear rating of 240.

[nat225]

Thanks Nat, looks good, i must say it looks better lowered, but i really didn't want to go down that road, how does it ride with the Gti suspension???

the ride was firmer, less front nose dive on hard braking and less front nose lift on accelerating hard, less body roll, sharper cornering.
the tyres were Conti Sport Contact 2 in 225 45 17, which had rather soft side wall.

but it was all in 2010 and the 118TSI was traded in for a GTI :D

[fully]

Ohhhh nice a GTi!, sadly that wasn't in my budget *damn it* lol
Hope it wasn't because the 118tsi gave you too much trouble, considering i just got one ;)

[russ83]

C
24000km is actually pretty good for the RE050 with wear rating of 140., even Advan Neova AD08 comes in 180.

all tyres become noisier as the thread blocks become thinner, but some are worse than the other.

a touring or all season type of tyres would be quieter, but less performance. eg: Turanza ER30, Michelin Primacy HP, etc...

i have the Primacy HP on the Accord Euro and the ride is still very quiet with 15000kms travel done so far... and someone claimed to have lasted it up to 50,000kms with wear rating of 240.

Thanks mate for clearing that up for me.

[Brian]

Hi all, I'm just wondering if anyone has pics of a mk6 golf 118tsi, or lower models with 17 or 18 inch alloy wheels, I'm curious to see what they look like with standard ride height, non sports pack. ..:cool:

Thank you.
Hey Mate, Have a look here at my 19s on standard suspension on a 118tsi if you wish. Have posted this elsewhere but may be hard to find.

Dropbox - Photos - Simplify your life (http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/25246042/1/TSI?h=d758cc)

[fully]

Hey Mate, Have a look here at my 19s on standard suspension on a 118tsi if you wish. Have posted this elsewhere but may be hard to find.

Dropbox - Photos - Simplify your life (http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/25246042/1/TSI?h=d758cc)

Hey Brian, they look good mate, sweet ride!!! may i ask how rough the ride is with 19s? do you know the offset? and lastly is there any rubbing? again, looks damn good! cheers for the pics.

[Rocket55]

Hideous things.

I'm on similar kms and to be honest I thought I had shot bearings at one stage.

+1 They are horrendously noisey:mad: I also thought wheel bearings, or the tyres had about 60psi in them. You should try them with the back seats folded down flat and the rear parcel shelf out......

[Brian]

Hey Brian, they look good mate, sweet ride!!! may i ask how rough the ride is with 19s? do you know the offset? and lastly is there any rubbing? again, looks damn good! cheers for the pics.
Thanks for the accolades mate,
They are 19 by 8 inch rims, ET 45 , 225/35 by 19" tires at 40 PSI. No rubbing whatsoever. Yes, they are a fair bit harsher ride than your standard 16" tires but handle heaps better, even without any suspension mods. I can live with the ride for the looks and handling benefit. I too did not wish to go down the suspension change bit just for street use. The Kumhos (tires) are a bit noisier than the standard Michelin's too. Its all a trade off on what you want from your ride.
Brian

[gtimal]

Hi guys

I'm up for a new set of tyres for the GTi what have you guys had fitted and how have you found the new tyres compared to the original . My dub came with Dunlops which haven't really impressed me with their grip .
I'm looking at Michelin pilot sport 3 .

Cheers

Mal

[Corey_R]

Hey mal. As per The Index Thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/official-mk6-forum-important-threads-posts-index-**look-here-first**-59253.html), if you're going to ask the question in the MK6 forum rather than the wheels & suspension forum, this is the thread to do it in.

We discussed the current crop of tyres a few pages back. The summary is (according to numerous magazine/internet car site roundups) is that, the BEST dry performance tyre (excluding semislicks) and the BEST wet performance tyre (including "winter" tyres), combined with a good overall "comfort" and "wear" is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

The original F1 Asy was still competitive vs the Michelin PSP 3 depending on the "bias"/criteria of the reviewers. But the F1 Asy 2 has thus far taken every single review as it's just so far ahead of the crowd it's not funny.

I have no idea how much it costs in Australia, and unfortunately the original F1 Asy was so successful that Tirerack.com are still selling stock of the original and don't have any of the 2, it really is the tire to get.

That being said, if you can obtain the Michelin PSP 3 for cheaper than the F1 Asy 2, then do it. By all the reviews and praise it's garnered, it's a great tyre too. I haven't had the opportunity to drive a Golf with them on it, but I've driven a Golf with the PSP 2's and it was fantastic. But given that the Goodyear is typically the same or cheaper... go for them :)

[MiiLos]

I've got Dunlop Sport Maxx GT's on mine and don't mind them at all. I guess I'll find out their limits once I can unleash on the car after a few more weeks, having clocked up the 1500kms.

Before I sold my MK5 I threw on a set of 225/40/18 Achilles ATR sports for $550! Got to drive about 2500kms on them and they were rather impressive for the price! ***t all over the Maxxis that came on the wheels. Was recommended onto the Achilles from some mates that do drifting. I would probably consider them again.

[nat225]

........Achilles ATR sports for $550! Got to drive about 2500kms on them and they were rather impressive for the price! ***t all over the Maxxis that came on the wheels. Was recommended onto the Achilles from some mates that do drifting. I would probably consider them again.

IMO the GTI and R deserve good premium tyres...

and BTW Tirerack is clearing their 2007 production Goodyear Assy in 225 40 18 for only US$98 each!

Plus shipping of US$250 for a set.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+Asymmetric&partnum=24YR8F1AXLOLD&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Volkswagen&autoYear=2010&autoModel=GTI&autoModClar=4-Door

Contact this guy if interested:

Roger Laughlin | Sales Specialist
__________________________________________________ ________

Tire Rack
7101 Vorden Parkway
South Bend, IN 46628
O: 888 428 8355 ext. 627
O: 574 287 2345 ext. 627
F: 574 236 7707
Roger@tirerack.com

[brad]

IMO the GTI and R deserve good premium tyres...

and BTW Tirerack is clearing their 2007 production Goodyear Assy in 225 40 18 for only US$98 each!
Somewhat of a contradiction - 3 year old tyres wouldn't be performing their best - that's why they are cheap.

[nat225]

Somewhat of a contradiction - 3 year old tyres wouldn't be performing their best - that's why they are cheap.

but at US$98 each is cheap, should be around $650 landed, and these are the German made version, not the Chinese made one. tyres have shelf life of 6 yrs generally.

locally you can only get Kumho KU31 for $150 each (fr Tempe) or Falken FK452 (2008 production from St George Tyres) for $150 each.

so, the Goodyear is a good deal for anyone looking for a better alternative to Nexen, Maxxis, LingLong & Co, and need them very soon.

I know 2 GTI owners currently running on the 2007 Goodyear Assy and they mentioned nothing but positive:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?5211-Goodyear-Assy-F1-18-US-91-EACH!

btw, conti sport contact 5 is already available for $300 fr Tempe in 225 40 18.

wealth of tyres reviews (good and crap):

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/

[GTI10T]

Looking to tie up purchase on 19x8" rims for Mk6 GTI and wanted to be sure of all the legalities and recommendations.

Which tyre size is best suited and legal? 235/35/19 or 225/35/19 (any scrubbing issues at stock or lowered heights?)

Has anyone lowered on this wheel/tyre setup and if so what have they used.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated before i fork out the $$

[walbjj]

hello, im running 19x8 oz racing ultraleggera. with dunlop sportmaxx gt 235/35/19 rubber. no rubbing. im lowered on eibach custom pro kits.
the car does bottom out when i hit a trough in the road at speed, but its not scrubbing the tyres, must be hitting the bumpstop or something.
ive been told 235 is the legal width for 19 rims.
ur more than welcome to have a look, what area are u in