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vw54
11-03-2009, 08:09 AM
Friends in Motorsport,

On behalf of Club VW Sydney I would like to extend to you and your members an invitation to attend our inaugural SuperSprint at Wakefield Park on Saturday 23rd May 2009.

Club VW has been a marque car club since 1985 and is newly affiliated with CAMS having completed taking over the affairs of VW Club of NSW.

The event organising committee is made up of both experienced as well as enthusiastic motorsport personnel who are making every effort to run a smooth and exciting event.

Clerk of Course Herb Gutmann has in excess of 15 years motorsport experience with the VWCNSW, and Secretary Chris Fraser also has 15 years experience in club motorsport including organising Huntley Hillclimb events with Wollongong Sporting Car Club for the past 7 years.

The event will be held under a CAMS event permit and follow the CAMS NSW guidelines for supersprints.

It is anticipated that the entry fee will be $150 per driver.

Please accept our invitation to attend this event and could you kindly pass on the Supp Regs and Entry Forms (when available) to those members who may wish to attend at your next meeting. Further details and news on the event will be published on the clubs website http://www.clubvw.org.au

The racing will start at 10am and go through to about 4:30pm. give or take a bit to make sure everyone gets the same amount of runs. Entrants will need to get there at about 7:30 so that we can begin scrutineering.

TIPS

To make the day run faster and get more value for money...

Join a CAMS affiliated club now. Club VW Sydney membership is $40 for 12 months, and puts out a very decent magazine monthly. Doesnt have to be ClubVW, if you want to join a local club, thats fine. Theres a list of affiliaed clubs on the CAMS website. http://cams.com.au/ left hand menu, about 6 from the top. There will be day memberships on offer for $20, but its hardly good value. Go the 12 months

Get a CAMS L2S licence before the event. While they will be available on the day, its a 4 page form. http://cams.com.au/downloads/paperforms/CAMSLevel2LicRenewal.pdf The licence last 12 months from date of issue, so dont send it out today. But do it no later than the 1st week of May because is it can be a 3 week turn around. This licence fee also includes your personal accident insurance.

Get entries in early. It helps organise things. We can get the groupings sorted, set up the timing and results, get classes sorted. If you come to the shed and have to fill out numerous forms its going to slow everything right down.

Bring licence and membership card with you. If the stewards are nice, you may be able to race without them... but you are liable for a CAMS fine. If the car has a CAMS logbook, it must also be presented.

About racing.

Minimum requirements for clothing are ankle to wrist to neck non flammable. Cotton = good. nylon = bad. Jeans and cotton shirt good. King gee style work gear or overalls even better. Hi vis reflective tape on king gee style gear = bad. Gloves not required on in closed vehicles. Helmets MUST have the Aussie Standards or overseas equivalent sticker. No sticker = no race. Helmet must be in good condition. Straps worn or lining falling out = no race.

Minimum requirements for your road registered car: It must be roadworthy. We dont care if any mods are road legal or not, but it has to be safe in the eyes of a scrutineer. You NEED a minimum 1kg fire extinguisher with metal bracket and it has to be mounted in reach of the driver. You need a 12cm triangle to mark battery position. You can use blue elecrical tape for this.

You need a race number. This can be a magnetic number, drawn on with boot polish, made up with tape. Personally I dont want you to print it on A4 and blue tack it to your rear window as it retricts vision. If your tyres are road tyres they must be road legal with regard to tread depth. Be aware that just because your car is road registered, doesnt mean it will go into road registered class.

Unregistered cars need the above, plus a whole lot more. Must have a rollcage, harness, battery isolation switch, sump plug to be wired, secondary carb return springs, tailshaft loop (if you have a tailshaft)

ALL CARS
If the car is pre 1974 you NEED to have a secondary method of securing the bonnet closed. A leather belt to strap it down to the bumper is adequate for this. It must have solid brakes. It must have tight steering. It must have tight suspension. Dont turn up with an inch of free play in the brake pedal, a worn out steering box and king pins worn down to a toothpick. No oil leaks alllowed. You wont be allowed to run. Seat belts cant be frayed and best if not faded unless you want to attract attention. The battery must be securely clamped. It must be covered if inside the car. If fitted with a rollcage the top of helmet must be below the rollcage when driver is in the seat. You might get away with this if your car has a roof, no chance if its a convertible or open top.

The vehicle classifications are to CAMS NSW Supersprint rules. These rules are only slightly bendable. http://cams.com.au/downloads/NSW/2783.pdf I'm more than willing to answer specific questions.

In closing could I also request that if any of your members who may wish to help out on the day and are CAMS qualified in the roles of flag marshals, scrutineers or stewards, we would greatly appreciate any help that may be offered. In particular I am in need of a chief steward for the event.

For any questions please don’t hesitate to call either

Herb on 0414 727 551 or 02 9428 4099, or

Chris on 4298 6320 during business hours. or clfraser@gmail.com

Chris Fraser

vw54
12-03-2009, 05:57 AM
wheres the entry list ???

Bug_racer
13-03-2009, 09:56 AM
Is it timed ?

KI11Z
13-03-2009, 01:51 PM
wow, cams huh :duh: i got some work ahead if i wanna run :eek:

Guy_H
13-03-2009, 06:22 PM
Dave - book us in for a couple of cars please.

not sure what category we fall into, but I'm sure they will find one for us.

shaneth
13-03-2009, 06:32 PM
wow, cams huh :duh: i got some work ahead if i wanna run :eek:

Exactly what i was thinking.

vw54
17-03-2009, 08:33 AM
yes the event will be timed

Guy

have listed you down for 2 spots

Guy_H
17-03-2009, 02:56 PM
wow, cams huh :duh: i got some work ahead if i wanna run :eek:

Should be pretty simple I think - get the day licence per the instructions & you will be good to go!

gldgti
18-03-2009, 09:27 PM
i'm very keen to get along to this in my mk1....i'm pretty sure i have enough time to get it ship shape.

i wanna drum up some more support for this - c'mon people with some good old examples (Loon, i'm looking at you and your scirocco) we should get out there and have a go.)

i'm pouring elbow grease and even some money into the mk1 to have it set to go for this event. now who's with me???

WABIT
22-03-2009, 08:45 PM
i might be down for this......

im gonna take the mk1 auto..... please dont hate, yes its slow, but i wanna have fun on that day

dom

Preen59
22-03-2009, 08:50 PM
I'm definitely going to run the Caddy..

Just gotta join the Bathurst light car club and get my CAMS license. :driver:

Bug_racer
25-03-2009, 12:08 AM
Can you post up the categories for watercooled cars please :)

vw54
17-04-2009, 08:28 AM
I will get the listing and post

vw54
17-04-2009, 09:36 AM
here are the classes there on engine capacity not air or water cooled


Vehicle Categories

Type 1 & 2 combined: Road Registered Vehicles with little or no modification
Classes: 0-1600cc 1601-2000cc 2001-3000cc over 3000cc


Type 3: Modified cars including 3J Club Cars as per CAMS manual
Classes: 0-1600cc 1601-2000cc 2001-3000cc over 3000cc


Type 4: 2D Sports Sedans (as per CAMS manual) & All Type 1,2,3 or SV cars running on slicks
Classes: 0-1600cc 1601-2000cc 2001-3000cc over 3000cc


Type 5: Open wheelers as defined under 1st Category Racing Cars (as per CAMS Manual) and cars not conforming to Types 1 & 2, 3, 4 & SV
Classes: Formula Vee, All others 0-1600cc All others over 1600cc


Type SV: Road registered kit cars (Clubmans, cobras, etc.) Limited Compliance Cars and 4WD Turbos
Classes: 0-3000cc over 3000cc

Note: Rotary and forced induction engines are subject to capacity multipliers as follows:

Rotaries multiply by 1.8 Forced Induction multiply by 1.7 Forced Induction Rotaries multiply by 3.06

Preen59
17-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Do they have a different multiplication factor for diesels?? :)

vw54
20-04-2009, 01:38 PM
So how many entries os far ???

MACCAA
20-04-2009, 06:05 PM
So how many entries os far ???

Just filled in my entry.Timbo is also entering his S3
Good luck with entries.
Everyone here talks a lot about tracking their cars,then find heaps of reasons not to run......
Cheers
Len

Guy_H
22-04-2009, 09:16 AM
Just sent off the entry for two cars - now I just have to work out how to get down there & where to stay!

Len - any ideas on a place to stay Friday night?

Also need to work out how to get to the Nats the next day as well!

twin eng, twin turbs
25-04-2009, 01:41 PM
Ill take my MK2 turbo 8v down for sure. Ill have to get a cams license aswell. Should be a great day for all, really looking forward to this :biggrin:

Timbo
25-04-2009, 03:56 PM
Get a CAMS L2S licence before the event. While they will be available on the day, its a 4 page form. http://cams.com.au/downloads/paperforms/CAMSLevel2LicRenewal.pdf

Chris, that link doesn't seem to work, and I can't seem to find the form on the CAMS website (I suspect they've done a major website update since your original post..or maybe it's just me :duh:)

fuzion
25-04-2009, 08:04 PM
Just sent off the entry for two cars - now I just have to work out how to get down there & where to stay!

Len - any ideas on a place to stay Friday night?

Also need to work out how to get to the Nats the next day as well!

Parramatta Area would have nicer hotels, otherwise Liverpool is an option too.

I would go parra (Safer) for car wise in parking.

Timbo
26-04-2009, 01:16 PM
Chris, that link doesn't seem to work, and I can't seem to find the form on the CAMS website (I suspect they've done a major website update since your original post..or maybe it's just me :duh:)

Here's an alternative link for those seeking their CAMS licence

http://www.duttonrally.com/_assets/Level2SLicense.pdf

Thanks MACCAA ;)

Golf Loon
26-04-2009, 03:22 PM
What time does the day start and finish??

I could come but would need to leave at 2.

MACCAA
26-04-2009, 05:57 PM
What time does the day start and finish??

I could come but would need to leave at 2.

Generally the Track opens at 9 and closes at 4.
Cheers
Len

KI11Z
30-04-2009, 08:57 AM
ok, i wanna try and make this though how strict is the oil leaks?? and i'll probably just get the cams on the day, sorry :oops:

fuzion
30-04-2009, 06:23 PM
ok, i wanna try and make this though how strict is the oil leaks?? and i'll probably just get the cams on the day, sorry :oops:

just bring some cardboard with you

think about the aircoolers there
lol

Golf Loon
04-05-2009, 02:10 PM
OK guys this event is in Jeapordy as they do not have enough confirmed places.

Lets have a show of hands for those that are definate and are able to prebook now.

And who else is very likely to come on the day.

Manaz
04-05-2009, 02:36 PM
I'd love to come - but I can't confirm anything until my suspension parts arrive and I know I've got everything I need to do the swap...

abreut
04-05-2009, 02:49 PM
OK guys this event is in Jeapordy as they do not have enough confirmed places.

Lets have a show of hands for those that are definate and are able to prebook now.

And who else is very likely to come on the day.

I'll definitely be there plus a mate as well - we haven't paid yet but are definite.

gldgti
05-05-2009, 08:13 PM
ok i will put my hand up for 1 place, definately. i don't know if it'll be the mk1 or the mk3 yet (see how i go getting ready) but i'll be there with somehing.

Dave, if you could put me down for 1 place.

PS - I have just submitted club vw membership...

PSS - anyone tell me if its a bad idea to take CAMS L2S form to the event, pre-filled out, so as to speed up the processing?... just that its early may already...

Preen59
05-05-2009, 08:33 PM
I've decided not to enter. I really only want to go for the weekend to relax and socialise. I've decided that It will be too rushed to really enjoy it if i go, plus i could do to hang onto the cash. :)

gtimk5
05-05-2009, 08:40 PM
I have done the sums and it will add another $500+ to my weekend on top of the trip up from Tassie.
Doesnt look feasable for me :frown:

Guy_H
07-05-2009, 12:53 PM
I have done the sums and it will add another $500+ to my weekend on top of the trip up from Tassie.
Doesnt look feasable for me :frown:

Andrew,

We could always do with a head mechanic for the pits (to check our wheel nuts are tight :) )

Will pay in beer :drinkbeer:

gtimk5
07-05-2009, 02:06 PM
I am still usure whether I will be popping back down the highway Guy, still juggling the logistics and finances. Heading up to Brisbane on them monday I think, got to meet the mighty Davemack. Its a heck of a lot of driving in 10 days and a bit of a drain!!
Let you know mate, talk real soon eh??
Hmm, did someone say beer?? :biggrin:
Andrew :)

Guy_H
08-05-2009, 12:14 PM
OK - sounds good - let me know when you are in town!

Water Boy
09-05-2009, 11:22 AM
Here is an entry list:

Entry list for sprints:

Driver Vehicle Category Group
George Geshos VW Beetle Type 4 2001 - 3000cc
3 Guy Harding VW Golf GTi Type 3 over 3000cc white
4 Guy Harding Audi S3 SV over 3000cc white
8 Greg Mackie VW Beetle Type 3 1600-2000cc blue
9 Michele Guyer March 87B Type 5 1301 - 6000cc
11 Paul Zanello VW Beetle Type 3 1600-2000cc yellow
14 Andrew MacPherson VW Type 3 Type 3 over 3000cc
18 Rod Penrose VW Beetle Type 3 1601 - 2000cc
19 Mark Guyer R32 GTR Type SV over 3000cc
21 Tim Conway Audi S3 Type 1 & 2 over 3000cc
28 Rose Merrett VW Beetle Type 1 & 2 2001 - 3000cc white
35 Shawn LeClerc Capri Type 3 1601 - 2000cc
44 Len McIntosh Audi S3 Type 1 & 2 over 3000cc
73 Brian Madigan VW Beetle Type 1&2 1600-2000cc white
82 Arno Breutmann VW Golf Type 3 over 3000cc yellow
96 Rudi Frank VW Beetle Type 4 over 3000cc
106 Jak Rizzo VW SuperBug Type 3 over 3000cc blue

Water Boy
09-05-2009, 11:28 AM
My Dad is thinking about running his Mk1 on the Saturday and then coming to the show on the Sunday. There would also be a Mk5 2ltr TDI running from our camp aswell...

Is the event still going ahead?

abreut
09-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Hey all I spoke to Chris Fraser about this event the other day when I paid for my spot. He asked me to let you guys know that the entry fee is $150 up until the 16th of May and after that the price goes up to $180. So if you're thinking about entering you might want to get in before the 16th. Come on lets get some watercooled VAG cars out there! Its not that far from Sydney and its expressway all the way.

static1800
10-05-2009, 09:08 PM
I am hopefully going to be able to come to this, going to have to sort a few things on my car this weekend though. Won't be the quickest car there but should be good fun.

Just a couple of questions, the cams regs state that we need a secondary bonnet securing device, but in Daves post it says only pre 74 cars need them. Can we get some clarification on this?

Am i able to join club vw and sign up for the event without having a cams license? it's a bit late to put it through and I guess it's safer to have all my stuff filled out for the license on the day. I would prefer to avoid the $30 late fee.

cheers,

abreut
11-05-2009, 09:48 AM
Yeah come along for sure - don't worry no-ones car is ever ready! I'm just going to pay the cams and club membership on the day. I just put "TBA" on my entry form for the cams lic number and club name. Surely if we have our forms all pre-filled it won't take too long on the day.

I wouldn't have thought you would need bonnet pins. Doesn't it just say thats for pre-74 cars? I don't have any on mine either.

Guy_H
11-05-2009, 09:51 AM
I am hopefully going to be able to come to this, going to have to sort a few things on my car this weekend though. Won't be the quickest car there but should be good fun.

Just a couple of questions, the cams regs state that we need a secondary bonnet securing device, but in Daves post it says only pre 74 cars need them. Can we get some clarification on this?

Am i able to join club vw and sign up for the event without having a cams license? it's a bit late to put it through and I guess it's safer to have all my stuff filled out for the license on the day. I would prefer to avoid the $30 late fee.

cheers,


Secondary hood restraint can be as simple as a leather belt - so don't panic too much there.

Contact the organisers about joining the club first for your day's licence to see if you can do it all on the day.

MACCAA
11-05-2009, 10:01 AM
It really would be best to get your paperwork done before you turn up.
It's not fair to the organizers to expect them to do it for you on the day.
There's still nearly two weeks to get it done.
There's enough work on the day without adding to it.
Cheers
Len

static1800
11-05-2009, 03:22 PM
Will give the organisers a call this week. I will fill out all the info for club membership and cams license beforehand and pay on the day.

Water Boy
11-05-2009, 06:56 PM
In reagrds to the bonnet latch it must be a non-elastic item. Eg a leather belt, some cable with a carabena etc...

vw54
14-05-2009, 08:02 AM
Come on guys we need some more entries for the Super sprint

Timbo
14-05-2009, 02:38 PM
In reagrds to the bonnet latch it must be a non-elastic item. Eg a leather belt, some cable with a carabena etc...
:duh: CAMS regs...what a pita!

static1800
14-05-2009, 03:04 PM
Come on guys we need some more entries for the Super sprint

I will confirm on monday whether i will be coming, doing a thorough check over the car on the weekend, don't want to pay and turn up but get turned way.

Water Boy
15-05-2009, 05:41 PM
Dad can not get time off work so no Mk1 or Mk5 from Melbourne.

abreut
15-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Just to let everyone know, I rang up about the bonnet catches and was told I don't need one. So before deciding against entering due to strict scrutineering just give the organisers a call and see what they say.

I'm bringing some rope down though just in case I get told something different on the day.

static1800
22-05-2009, 10:09 AM
I won't be racing tomorrow unfortunately, but think I will come out to take a look around.

Timbo
24-05-2009, 07:11 AM
A big thanks to Chis, Herb and all the Club VeeDub volunteers that helped organise and run this. It was good fun, especially once the track dried, with some 'fearsome' air-cooled cars driven by clearly fearless drivers! I'm glad I have a watercooled!

Natsoft lap time results (http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?23/05/2009.WAKE.S1)

Guy, pity you couldn't make it...it would have been good to see the APR S3 in action (and Golf!)

Guy_H
25-05-2009, 09:50 AM
Man - Tell me about it - less one car, flood damage, ****ty weather. I would have much rather been down there!

Good results boys!

vw54
27-05-2009, 08:54 PM
So guys n Girls anyone get rilled up to come along next year n have a run

Can you beat the Air cooled mob ???