View Full Version : FMIC - Grill or no grill?
Petrina Polo
08-03-2009, 08:52 PM
I have FMIC on my Polo Gti..
Do I take lower grill out and expose FMIC? looks ok...
Or do I put in grill and go stealth?
What is general consensus and what are fellow FMIC people doing?
Bra or no bra?
Blitzen
08-03-2009, 09:08 PM
Grill = Stealth...
No Grill = Rice...
Gti Dave
08-03-2009, 09:18 PM
I've got the Forge FMIC installed and I still have the grill . Gives it a stealth and factory look but if you look hard enough and kneel down a bit, you'll see the Forge logo. So overall in my opinion, its modded with a bit of taste, looks good and doesn't look ricey one bit. Another positive is the grill would prevent anything large from hitting the intercooler and causing any unsightly damage.
VW GTI
08-03-2009, 09:49 PM
I've got the Forge FMIC installed and I still have the grill . Gives it a stealth and factory look but if you look hard enough and kneel down a bit, you'll see the Forge logo. So overall in my opinion, its modded with a bit of taste, looks good and doesn't look ricey one bit. Another positive is the grill would prevent anything large from hitting the intercooler and causing any unsightly damage.
You can order the Forge FMIC without the logo so you don't look like a skyline or WRX driver.
mikepologti
09-03-2009, 07:06 AM
gotta go with dave on this one, showing a little bit of presence for the keen eyed can never be a bad thing. though i think for myself showing the intercooler off is maybe trying a little hard.
Petrina Polo
09-03-2009, 07:54 AM
I took my grill off.. My car is black so you dont really see the little holes etc where the grill clips into..
The FMIC is very prominant with no grill... yeah maybe a little rice..
Do I have to pull off the bar again to put the grill back in...
I hate pulling off the bar..
What is the definition of rice anyway??
mikepologti
09-03-2009, 10:20 AM
"riceing it up" or "ricer" are derogitry terms, used for people who put modifications on there car to make it "appear" faster or better then what it really is. usual suspects are huge spoilers or wings,decals advertising features that the car just does not have and over sized exhaust tips.
the word "rice" in ricer, is used because this particular phenominon, supposedly originated from people who owned japanese cars, though any car can theoretically be "riced up".
correct me if im wrong guys,......thats what ive always thaught riceing was anyway.
JCM308
09-03-2009, 10:26 AM
correct me if im wrong guys,......thats what ive always thaught riceing was anyway.
100% correct IMO
Petrina Polo
09-03-2009, 11:24 AM
So how can a FMIC showing be rice? It is what it is? Its not overstating anything?
It doesnt look too bad unobstructed and possibly functionally better as there is nothing in front of it..
Isnt RICE basically claiming more than it is?
JCM308
09-03-2009, 11:32 AM
So how can a FMIC showing be rice? It is what it is? Its not overstating anything?
It doesnt look too bad unobstructed and possibly functionally better as there is nothing in front of it..
Isnt RICE basically claiming more than it is?
Basically cause it can be hidden so to speak without effecting the efficiency of the part it is considered rice to not try and do it.
Rice can also be anything that is outlandish or a look at me option (ie 1million inch chromies on a starlet etc).
RhysQ
09-03-2009, 11:36 AM
Yeah the 'RICE' comment has got way out of control, people just don't know what it means. For you to take your grill off when using the cooler would not be 'rice' by any means.....because as you said, it is functional and in theory should improve performance (although probably not). If anything, it would be considered 'track/race spec', just like when drag cars remove their headlights for intake inlets.
'Rice' would be to get an intercooler core and stick it in behind the grill of an N/A car and not connect any piping.
RhysQ
09-03-2009, 11:40 AM
Rice can also be anything that is outlandish or a look at me option (ie 1million inch chromies on a starlet etc).
Prime example of my previous post. I agree with the chromies on a starlet opinion, because it is a weighty mod on a small car, in turn slowing it down. But what about if you get an R32 Skyline GTR and kit it out with a big front mount, lightweight race rims, carbon fibre bodykit, high flow exhaust with huge race pipes out the back. Thats 'look at me', but not rice.
Taking off the grill is not RICE..... It may be 'look at me', but it is functional = NOT RICE :duh:
VWindahouse
09-03-2009, 11:43 AM
Agreed, I think it looks good IMO! I personally would not go over top with the red FORGE sign however........
JCM308
09-03-2009, 11:55 AM
;292701'] But what about if you get an R32 Skyline GTR and kit it out with a big front mount, lightweight race rims, carbon fibre bodykit, high flow exhaust with huge race pipes out the back. Thats 'look at me', but not rice.
I agree that would be "Race spec" not Rice. But what if you took the same car added a fibreglass wide body kit, GT wing, Big chromies, FMIC and exhaust. Similar mods but different outcome :duh:
I'm not saying rice to some extent doesn't look good, what I'm saying is you should limit the amount you do and try to make it a mod that actually does something apart from make it look good.
As I mentioned in my previous post about the grill, if you can put the grill back in and make it a bit stealthy without effecting the functionallity of the mod then it doesn't take away from what the car is (a sporty european).
If you leave the grill off and have the FMIC exposed for the world to see yes it may be considered "Track/Race" spec but may also be considered a little ricey.
RhysQ
09-03-2009, 12:00 PM
If you leave the grill off and have the FMIC exposed for the world to see yes it may be considered "Track/Race" spec but may also be considered a little ricey.
Each to their own I suppose but the day that weight reduction and maximising airflow to a performance part is considered 'rice', i'm gone from the car scene.
JCM308
09-03-2009, 12:04 PM
;292714']Each to their own I suppose but the day that weight reduction and maximising airflow to a performance part is considered 'rice', i'm gone from the car scene.
Fair call. Lets agree to disagree. I would expect the gains to be had between having the grill on or off would be 2/3 of F all!
JCM308
09-03-2009, 12:29 PM
Here's an example:
Rice
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2009/03/Skyline1-1.jpg
Nice
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2009/03/nissan_skyline_gtr-1.jpg
Many many 10 second cars have numberplates across there intercoolers. So i dont think its a big deal for a bit of plastic with holes in it.
anarchycamp
09-03-2009, 12:58 PM
"rice" would be if the intercooler was visible and not hooked up....
would go well with...
http://www.turbowhistler.net/
I reckon stealth always is the best form of travel :)
mikepologti
09-03-2009, 05:05 PM
rice?:biggrin::duh:
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/ricer-48377.jpg
RhysQ
09-03-2009, 06:23 PM
rice?:biggrin::duh:
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/ricer-48377.jpg
lol, i consider that 'VIP' style...... now go look that up! full on VIP styling is some funny sh*t!
like this magna...
3841
JIMTRON
09-03-2009, 06:52 PM
Does anyone have any photos of a polo with the grill off?
If someone could post one, I would be very interested
to see what an exposed intercooler looks like.
Thanks in advance, Jim
Petrina Polo
09-03-2009, 08:17 PM
Ill post a picture of my car with no grill on and ill take my medicine if we collectively agree on rice or race spec..
It looks ok from far... up close you can see a few little holes where the grill clips into but because my car is black it cannot really be seen..
There is also a picture in the "meet my polo thread" plataus cattalini thread...
VW-Gecko
09-03-2009, 08:52 PM
With that whistler.net link OMFG!!! how crap :duh: , as with the car above (VIP) I honestly dont class that as VIP, I would class it as TRY HARD.... lol I have and do read all sorts of car mags etc and have seen some real ricer cars and also some nice VIP cars...
My definition of ricer would be as the other person (cant member who) that ricing would be to mod a car in a way that they "look" fast without much effect (or however you worded it, sounded better)... I think the term is used or judged more on peoples personal opinions, (one may think it is, one may not)...
VIP on the other hand, is what i would class as a car with style or a car which looks "ganster" big bodykits with style that accentuates the curves rather than looking aggressive or "race" styled... hard for me too put my words to writing but i will post up a pic
regards...
Ash...
DeanB
09-03-2009, 08:53 PM
You mean a shot like this ... I know it is a Golf .. but you get the idea.
http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/images/products/FMINTMK5.jpg
VW-Gecko
09-03-2009, 08:55 PM
or go here to look at VIP styling... http://www.wald.co.jp/owners.html
Joe Chu
09-03-2009, 09:03 PM
Ok lets get one thing straight, RICE is anything Jap. All my friends have rice cars also known as Rice Burners!! We have Euro's. :) LOL
jasn78
09-03-2009, 09:06 PM
Ok lets get one thing straight, RICE is anything Jap. All my friends have rice cars also known as Rice Burners!! We have Euro's. :) LOL
mate i know what u mean but i disagree that mayb what it used to mean but i would say common terminalogy nowadays refers to anything where something has been made to look fast etc but is absolute crap i.e hyundai excel with 17" chrommies and fake front mount with wishlist stickers. Now that is rice but it isnt jap
bfeboi
09-03-2009, 09:25 PM
WRONG thats just called stupid
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ricer
urbandictionary is always good for a laugh
jasn78
09-03-2009, 09:27 PM
bfeboi i dont c much of a difference btwn what i said and that defintion :) but thanks for the link looks like im going to have a few laughs over the next few days :)
Roodosutaa
09-03-2009, 11:10 PM
Ok lets get one thing straight, RICE is anything Jap. All my friends have rice cars also known as Rice Burners!! We have Euro's. :) LOL
So is this considered "risotto"?
http://images.paultan.org/images2/Marangoni-M430-Alfa-Romeo-MiTo.jpg
Buller_Scott
09-03-2009, 11:21 PM
"riceing it up" or "ricer" are derogitry terms, used for people who put modifications on there car to make it "appear" faster or better then what it really is. usual suspects are huge spoilers or wings,decals advertising features that the car just does not have and over sized exhaust tips.
the word "rice" in ricer, is used because this particular phenominon, supposedly originated from people who owned japanese cars, though any car can theoretically be "riced up".
correct me if im wrong guys,......thats what ive always thaught riceing was anyway.
http://www.mike.vcn.com/tmp/ricer_civic_2.jpg
http://www.modenstudios.com/realrice/ricerparty.jpg
http://www.anti-rice.com/rice13/Daytona-ricer.jpg
do you mean like these guys? lol.
Buller_Scott
09-03-2009, 11:26 PM
;292701']Prime example of my previous post. I agree with the chromies on a starlet opinion, because it is a weighty mod on a small car, in turn slowing it down. But what about if you get an R32 Skyline GTR and kit it out with a big front mount, lightweight race rims, carbon fibre bodykit, high flow exhaust with huge race pipes out the back. Thats 'look at me', but not rice.
Taking off the grill is not RICE..... It may be 'look at me', but it is functional = NOT RICE :duh:
i think perhaps that taking off the front grille might be deemed as "rice", as cars with turbos this small, that are being intercooled by front mounts, probably will see no actual performance advantage by removing the grille anyway, right?
Wouldnt removing the grille be seen as just as effective as cutting a vent in the wheel arch behind the stock SMIC? No dyno-provable performance increase?
Cheers
Scott
Buller_Scott
09-03-2009, 11:28 PM
So is this considered "risotto"?
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46891/a6_ricer.jpg FTW!!!!
Kiel_GTI
09-03-2009, 11:29 PM
So is this considered "risotto"?
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
hahahahahha
well played good sir
Petrina Polo
10-03-2009, 07:39 AM
So is removing the grill rice or r-spec?
I will post a pic shortly..
My intercooler has no logos or writing on it just plain..
To be honest without the grill the intercooler is very prominant...especially on a black car like mine..
I think my situation is a little grey...
It would be a rice determination if the intention of the mod is just for the look rather than any functional benefit.. I admit its done to make the car look a little more aggressive.
But exposing my intercooler is not a show pony thing as the intercooler is functional, there is nothing fake about it? Its not a spoiler which will do nothing.. its fully functional.
JCM308
10-03-2009, 07:43 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ricer
This is exactly what I was saying in previous posts. At least i know there are a few people that agree with me!
Petrina Polo
10-03-2009, 09:43 AM
For those with FMIC...do you expose it or cover it?
seangti
10-03-2009, 12:39 PM
For those with FMIC...do you expose it or cover it?
when/if I do mine, it'll be covered and more than likely sprayed black so no one would ever guess, even with a double look. Each to their own so do whatever you like the look off. Though in saying that, your car is far from a sleeper as it is :bowdown:
Petrina Polo
11-03-2009, 10:50 AM
My Polo looks no different to any other Polo GTI...
Only has Exhaust outlet giving rise to any modification and no lower grill.. To give it a more aggressive look as well as possibly heloping out FMIC
seangti
11-03-2009, 04:46 PM
My Polo looks no different to any other Polo GTI...
Only has Exhaust outlet giving rise to any modification and no lower grill.. To give it a more aggressive look as well as possibly heloping out FMIC
My mistake - had you confused with somebody else. Same applies though - do what makes ya happy.
Buller_Scott
12-03-2009, 10:57 PM
;292902']lol, i consider that 'VIP' style...... now go look that up! full on VIP styling is some funny sh*t!
like this magna...
3841
i dont think that's a magna- i think that is a nissan cedric.
there is a different "genre" of cars in japan- many kids mod cruisers (like nissan cedrics, nissan cimas, toyota celsiors, crowns, etc) because of the way rego works there- the older the car, the more you pay to have it road registered.
basically, it means slightly older cars (<10 yrs) can be had for cheap (think lexus ls500's, second hand, less than 7 yrs old, for around $12-$15k).
its not so much rice as flat out flamboyancy.... IMO Japanese cant be accused of rice as their racing, and their scene, is nothing short of legit.
More examples of this flamboyancy/ cruiser modding:
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Random%20Shots/672c_11.jpg
http://www.g-answer.com/aero/f50cima/Small/cima%20umi.jpg
http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/gallery/oni_kyan2/nissan_cima_oni_kyan.jpg
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/attachments/suspension-wheels/78475d1210991321-offset-confusion-please-help-toyota_crown_majesta_oni_kyan2.jpg
and the grand daddy of them all, the toyota century:
http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Toyota-limo-door-open.jpg
Buller_Scott
12-03-2009, 10:58 PM
oops, i forgot "art trucks":
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XFHRCsdJiKk/SAn5_V1ruvI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/9vj8buaEWZI/s400/d1.jpg
:frown:
mikepologti
13-03-2009, 01:32 AM
oops, i forgot "art trucks":
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XFHRCsdJiKk/SAn5_V1ruvI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/9vj8buaEWZI/s400/d1.jpg
:frown:
nothing more shouts "hell yeah im gay!" then that truck.
Petrina Polo
13-03-2009, 09:55 AM
i dont think that's a magna- i think that is a nissan cedric.
there is a different "genre" of cars in japan- many kids mod cruisers (like nissan cedrics, nissan cimas, toyota celsiors, crowns, etc) because of the way rego works there- the older the car, the more you pay to have it road registered.
basically, it means slightly older cars (<10 yrs) can be had for cheap (think lexus ls500's, second hand, less than 7 yrs old, for around $12-$15k).
its not so much rice as flat out flamboyancy.... IMO Japanese cant be accused of rice as their racing, and their scene, is nothing short of legit.
More examples of this flamboyancy/ cruiser modding:
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Random%20Shots/672c_11.jpg
http://www.g-answer.com/aero/f50cima/Small/cima%20umi.jpg
http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/gallery/oni_kyan2/nissan_cima_oni_kyan.jpg
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/attachments/suspension-wheels/78475d1210991321-offset-confusion-please-help-toyota_crown_majesta_oni_kyan2.jpg
and the grand daddy of them all, the toyota century:
http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Toyota-limo-door-open.jpg
Definately some rice additions to those cars.. Ill post a pic of mine up to determine if rice or not
Chipped
13-03-2009, 02:09 PM
Please do - would love to see how it looks.
RhysQ
13-03-2009, 04:14 PM
oops, i forgot "art trucks":
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XFHRCsdJiKk/SAn5_V1ruvI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/9vj8buaEWZI/s400/d1.jpg
:frown:
those are what i was looking for...! i reckon they are funny as!
mikepologti
13-03-2009, 05:22 PM
how the hell are those guys gonna get out of there driveway letalone down the road?,......pointless, unless your going to mount the car permanantly in your driveway.
Buller_Scott
13-03-2009, 09:51 PM
;294871']those are what i was looking for...! i reckon they are funny as!
they are just.........
i'll say this. the japanese KNOW how to make a fast car look sick (we all know that), and they know how to make cruisers look damn slick too (big ass lexus's and crowns on tasteful wheels, but they also know how to make stuff look utterly crap too....
get a load of these guys, called Bousozoku. Basically, they rip their exhausts off their bikes, and drive all over the city at 10km/h, in both going and oncoming lanes, stopping traffic and waking people up, in groups of up to hundreds:
http://japon.canalblog.com/images/CanalBlog_Livre_Bosozoku03.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/JapaneseBosozoku.jpg
http://iskari.bitacoras.com/imagenes/bosozoku2.jpg
no one can touch the pricks as they pay the Yakuza to keep em safe.
And more funnycar action:
http://www.lateralgphotography.com/SWATblog/bosozoku_xB_front.jpg (toyota bb, they're actually really roomy inside)
http://www.tuningfever.fr/pics-med-10371-183954-japanese-bosozoku-van.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u3Fr9eBueMI/R9xGP7XljOI/AAAAAAAABxE/oB1cELnaB84/s400/053051.jpg
http://zoomerboys.freeflux.net/files/images/blog/truck_inspiration.jpg
YAY!
Buller_Scott
13-03-2009, 09:54 PM
how the hell are those guys gonna get out of there driveway letalone down the road?,......pointless, unless your going to mount the car permanantly in your driveway.
in japan, driveways arent like in aus where the road slopes slightly upwards onto an incline towards your house. there, road and driveway are most often same incline, with just a slight (3-4cms) step up into the driveway.
either that, or parking is on road. or multi-story parking complexes that use elevators to scoop the cars off ground level into the parking space.
DaveMack
13-03-2009, 10:30 PM
get a load of these guys, called Bousozoku. Basically, they rip their exhausts off their bikes, and drive all over the city at 10km/h, in both going and oncoming lanes, stopping traffic and waking people up, in groups of up to hundreds:
http://japon.canalblog.com/images/CanalBlog_Livre_Bosozoku03.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/JapaneseBosozoku.jpg
http://iskari.bitacoras.com/imagenes/bosozoku2.jpg
no one can touch the pricks as they pay the Yakuza to keep em safe.
If you've ever stayed in any large Japanese city, you'll have nightmares about swarms of wasps / bees at night for weeks afterwards ... they really are a nuisance. :duh:
Dave
Lukey
13-03-2009, 10:46 PM
there is a different "genre" of cars in japan- many kids mod cruisers (like nissan cedrics, nissan cimas, toyota celsiors, crowns, etc) because of the way rego works there- the older the car, the more you pay to have it road registered.
basically, it means slightly older cars (<10 yrs) can be had for cheap (think lexus ls500's, second hand, less than 7 yrs old, for around $12-$15k).
its not so much rice as flat out flamboyancy.... IMO Japanese cant be accused of rice as their racing, and their scene, is nothing short of legit.
More examples of this flamboyancy/ cruiser modding:
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Random%20Shots/672c_11.jpg
http://www.g-answer.com/aero/f50cima/Small/cima%20umi.jpg
http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/gallery/oni_kyan2/nissan_cima_oni_kyan.jpg
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/attachments/suspension-wheels/78475d1210991321-offset-confusion-please-help-toyota_crown_majesta_oni_kyan2.jpg
and the grand daddy of them all, the toyota century:
http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Toyota-limo-door-open.jpg
that is FAR from anything to do with rice
its called VIP
RhysQ
13-03-2009, 10:49 PM
that is FAR from anything to do with rice
its called VIP
:duh: have a read over the last few pages mate, we were talking about VIP styled cars ;). his post was in response to mine about VIP styling.
tinto
13-03-2009, 11:08 PM
Looks great either way IMO.
Pic below is obviously not a Polo, but it looks purposeful, reduces weight by 50g(?)... so that's a performance mod ;)
I'd probably leave mine on to attract less attention, but I certainly don't think it is ricey to take it off.
Do what makes you happy Petrina... it is easy to undo if you change your mind.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2009/03/February2009mk5turbocarmomgs018-1.jpg
mikepologti
14-03-2009, 01:52 AM
your right it doesnt look to bad at all.:),......hope you dont drive on to many sealed roads, id be watching for flying stones hitting your ic.
DaveMack
14-03-2009, 02:00 AM
The 'Rice' acronym actually stands for: "Race Inspired Car Enhancements" and as such, can apply to any brand.
Dave
mikepologti
14-03-2009, 02:09 AM
The 'Rice' acronym actually stands for: "Race Inspired Car Enhancements" and as such, can apply to any brand.
Dave
funny thats the first time ive heard the term "rice" used as a acronym.
interesting.
mike
Buller_Scott
14-03-2009, 04:59 AM
If you've ever stayed in any large Japanese city, you'll have nightmares about swarms of wasps / bees at night for weeks afterwards ... they really are a nuisance. :duh:
Dave
true. they're wankers. i once ran downstairs from my apartment and asked a couple of em what time it was, and to piss off (i was pissed). i guess, just like cowards everywhere else, in small numbers, they scare pretty easy.
gotta love the cops who pile out of vans in groups of 5-8, with nightsticks, half a click up the road from a group of 400 or so of the guys. balls the size of truck tires.
mikepologti
14-03-2009, 10:18 AM
my brother is having problems with a few nobs over the road, it started off harmless enough but now theyve taken to doing donuts out the front of his house,......i keep searching the front page of the local news paper expecting to find the head line something to the tune of " man found bludgeoned to death with gts exhaust",......thank god he doesnt have his gun licence anymore.
VW-Gecko
14-03-2009, 12:04 PM
I think that the pic above is ok, but (no offense) the other pic with the red forge logo and red IC piping looks like crap...JMO though...
Also as much as i love good looking vip cars, the people that put heaps of camber on, that ruins the whole look.... not to mentioln destroying the tyres, which usually arnt cheap for those rim sizes... just stupidity....
mikepologti
14-03-2009, 01:05 PM
I think that the pic above is ok, but (no offense) the other pic with the red forge logo and red IC piping looks like crap...JMO though...
Also as much as i love good looking vip cars, the people that put heaps of camber on, that ruins the whole look.... not to mentioln destroying the tyres, which usually arnt cheap for those rim sizes... just stupidity....
agreed, theres a huge differance between style and groundclearance so low you cant evan run over your neigbours cat , let alone get out of your drive way.
VWindahouse
15-03-2009, 09:20 AM
Found this polo - grilless
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/227/n1540834352301860839753.jpg
And this one with painted roof
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5620/picture1531.jpg
rice or no rice???
VW GTI
15-03-2009, 11:09 AM
And this one with painted roof
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
rice or no rice???
That's either photoshopped or a crap job.
RhysQ
15-03-2009, 11:12 AM
That's either photoshopped or a crap job.
photoshopped.... well, just done in 'paint' i reckon. it's just flat black over the whole thing.....no reflections or shading.
here, this one has a black roof
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/05/25042008162-1.jpg
JCM308
16-03-2009, 08:56 AM
Doesn't look too ricey without the grill but it does make it look a little messy. The install looks good but because you can see the tabe where the grill is supposed to be makes it look incomplete.
IMO I'd leave the grill on but at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference, do what you want to do as it is your car :)
VW GTI
16-03-2009, 08:56 AM
I prefer with - looks unfinished otherwise.
JIMTRON
16-03-2009, 08:57 AM
Looks a lot tougher with no grill. I like it :)
JCM308
16-03-2009, 08:57 AM
I prefer with - looks unfinished otherwise.
:D great minds think alike. We both basically posted the same thing at the same time.
Petrina Polo
16-03-2009, 09:05 AM
My car is black and you cant really see where the grill is supposed to go..
Until you stick your head up nice n close..
I would imagine on a white car or even silver it would be more noticeable..
I might leave it off but find some rubber insert I can sick there to make it look more complete..
Its very noticable without grill on..
I think I have to take bar off to put grill back on anyway... :duh:
VW GTI
16-03-2009, 09:17 AM
:D great minds think alike. We both basically posted the same thing at the same time.
Ha. Yeah, mine was a little more concise :p
My car is black and you cant really see where the grill is supposed to go..
You may not be able to see the attachment points very well, but it still looks unfinished.
Petrina Polo
16-03-2009, 09:55 AM
Do you mean unfinished in respect to the fog lights having the plastic inserts and it not continuing across the front of the car where the intercooler is?
I might try and find those honeycomb grill for the lower and have that fitted..
Many cars out there dont have anything in the lower grill area.
xtturbo
16-03-2009, 12:22 PM
My car is black and you cant really see where the grill is supposed to go..
Until you stick your head up nice n close..
I would imagine on a white car or even silver it would be more noticeable..
I might leave it off but find some rubber insert I can sick there to make it look more complete..
Its very noticable without grill on..
I think I have to take bar off to put grill back on anyway... :duh:
I've been pondering the same question as you, if I were you this is what I'd do.
Remove the grill, and create whats essentially a large rectangular pipe/port out of fiberglass to put in its place. Paint it perhaps 25%gloss/75%matte.
A lot of work would be involved getting it just right (designing, molding, sanding, filling, painting and finishing the fiberglass), but the car would look really finished with a nice port style scoop leading up to your intercooler.
Petrina Polo
16-03-2009, 03:23 PM
Hmmm.. for me its gonna be either grill in or grill out..
No funny shaped trapezoidal fibreglass apparatus..
Im just interested in the straight shooting VW members that say rice or nice..
I appreciate the negative comments as much as the positive..
Chrisuk-polo
17-03-2009, 11:16 PM
thats my white gti with no grill, it looks sweet in real life and you cannot see the grill clips as i have modified the orginal grill . cut out the slats and fiberglassed the sides filled and painted , then it just slotts in giving a nice finish! also you could put mesh behined if you wanted !
During
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1917/147/49/1540834352/n1540834352_30164926_4570.jpg
Before
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1917/147/49/1540834352/n1540834352_30164906_2921.jpg
After
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2061/147/49/1540834352/n1540834352_30184945_2865.jpg
oh and a sneaky boost gauge pic
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1917/147/49/1540834352/n1540834352_30164910_3890.jpg
hope this helps people to decide!
JCM308
18-03-2009, 08:22 AM
Hmmm.. for me its gonna be either grill in or grill out..
No funny shaped trapezoidal fibreglass apparatus..
Im just interested in the straight shooting VW members that say rice or nice..
I appreciate the negative comments as much as the positive..
thats my white gti with no grill, it looks sweet in real life and you cannot see the grill clips as i have modified the orginal grill . cut out the slats and fiberglassed the sides filled and painted , then it just slotts in giving a nice finish! also you could put mesh behined if you wanted !
During
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
After
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
Petrina I think if you do something similar to what Chrisuk has done it will finish the job off nicely. if you just leave it with nothing there then it will look ok but it won't look "nice" (alternativly you could just replace the grill or source a honeycomb grill).
Petrina Polo
18-03-2009, 10:26 AM
Petrina I think if you do something similar to what Chrisuk has done it will finish the job off nicely. if you just leave it with nothing there then it will look ok but it won't look "nice" (alternativly you could just replace the grill or source a honeycomb grill).
Can you replace the grill from the outside??
I dont want to have to take the bar off...again..
they are not like holdens or fords where you give em a bit of a shake and they come off..
Chrisuk-polo
18-03-2009, 10:21 PM
you need to remove the bumper and even then its difficult to remove!
xtturbo
20-03-2009, 10:14 PM
thats my white gti with no grill, it looks sweet in real life and you cannot see the grill clips as i have modified the orginal grill . cut out the slats and fiberglassed the sides filled and painted , then it just slotts in giving a nice finish! also you could put mesh behined if you wanted !
After
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
Genius! Thats EXACTLY what I had in mind!
naughty
25-03-2009, 12:52 PM
The 'Rice' acronym actually stands for: "Race Inspired Car Enhancements" and as such, can apply to any brand.
Dave
was just gonna comment on that - most peoples definitions of RICE are all washed up and pure conjecture - especially on wiki - Dave has the origin of the term 100% correct even though as time went on it became a derogatory term against japanese manufactured vehicles because of the penchant of Japanese people in their fondness for eating rice
but there you have it though RICE in car terminology = Race Inspired Car Enhancements
Chrisuk-polo
28-03-2009, 12:35 AM
Ill sleep better knowing that thanks very much LOL :)
philthy
02-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Are you the Hulk?
If not, someone's stolen your photos and posted them on Rexnet.
http://www.rexnet.com.au/forum/index.php?showtopic=102979&st=150
Petrina Polo
02-04-2009, 12:20 PM
No I do not know who is Hulk. If someone is using my pictures then they are sad.
El Pedro
02-04-2009, 01:20 PM
So the Hulk was one of your own all along.
jasn78
02-04-2009, 01:22 PM
el pedro i hope he isnt, if he might be a good reason to sell the polo :)
El Pedro
02-04-2009, 01:53 PM
Ahahahah, sad to say he is mate, I've been getting a barrage of abusive PM's from him on rexnet for posting up his phone number. Even had a lovley chat with him on the phone.
philthy
02-04-2009, 02:27 PM
That was definately the same car, so someone's telling porkies.
mikepologti
02-04-2009, 04:29 PM
lmao this forum has more drama then nieghbours hahaha.funny stuff!,......though i do have to ask wtf bother infiltrating a forum, who gives a sh#t what someone else drives?.......that does it im getting my lounge chair and some pop corn.
Buller_Scott
04-04-2009, 05:23 AM
it truly saddens my heart to think that one of our own, someone from our own peaceful, harmonious little haven would seek to infiltrate, usurp, and bring down our modest little community.
it makes me sick.
its like when Cypher exits the Matrix in order to kill Dozer, Apoc, and Switch, also endeavouring to kill off Neo.
I just hope that like Neo and Trinity, however, we have our own personal Tank to fight back from his beating, and save the day.
thats my white gti with no grill, it looks sweet in real life and you cannot see the grill clips as i have modified the orginal grill . cut out the slats and fiberglassed the sides filled and painted , then it just slotts in giving a nice finish! also you could put mesh behined if you wanted !
During
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
Before
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
After
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
oh and a sneaky boost gauge pic
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/
hope this helps people to decide!
like the look of this except for the big forge on the intercooler. Im not big on having brand names splashed all over the car. Dont like stickers and such.
Other than that the front piece looks very nice.
Also, does having the boost gauge in the air con vent improve cold air being fed to the engine? :):):)
xtturbo
18-05-2009, 11:37 AM
thats my white gti with no grill, it looks sweet in real life and you cannot see the grill clips as i have modified the orginal grill . cut out the slats and fiberglassed the sides filled and painted , then it just slotts in giving a nice finish! also you could put mesh behined if you wanted !
I'll be doing this very shortly! My car is also white :) Hopefully I'll be the first person in Victoria with my forge intercooler proudly showing :D I've decided to go without the logo though.
Big thanx to Whubbsie for providing me with a spare grill to modify for the procedure!!! :D
Any tips chris? How did the fibreglass go with the sides? How did you get it to stick? Why not just use bog? What did you paint the grill with?
Cheers,
Jarrad
mikepologti
19-05-2009, 03:56 AM
surprisingly that looks pretty shmick. nice work.
Chrisuk-polo
20-05-2009, 04:55 AM
I'll be doing this very shortly! My car is also white :) Hopefully I'll be the first person in Victoria with my forge intercooler proudly showing :D I've decided to go without the logo though.
Big thanx to Whubbsie for providing me with a spare grill to modify for the procedure!!! :D
Any tips chris? How did the fibreglass go with the sides? How did you get it to stick? Why not just use bog? What did you paint the grill with?
Cheers,
Jarrad
i didnt do it my friend did it for me, he said use fibreglass as its just to build the shape as when u cut the slatts out it leaves holes. Filler wont do on it on its own it just smooths it off! then painted in a booth and a good few coats of laqure!
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