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DubSteve
23-11-2006, 08:00 AM
Hey Guys,

I want to fabricate a air duct for the vr6 at current the air is coming through the front right wheel arch (factory standard one). :(

What I want to do is fabricate one so that it comes from the front where cool air can come through. Just for abit of a better responce. I have already bought 3" flexible tubing and I was wondering if anyone has done this before and how hard is it to do?

Tried to do it last night and Couldn't find a way to do it (maybe I was just tired lol)

ANy help would be appreciated hoping to do it before the picnic on the 3rd December.

Golfer
23-11-2006, 08:35 AM
Hey Steve,

I did the same thing and bought some flexible ducting, tried to get it to poke through into the front, but there didn't seem to be any way to do it. You do have one option though...

If the VR6 setup is the same as mine, then directly below the air box is the charcoal canister. To remove it you need to take the wheel off and remove the abs well guard. It's a big sucker of a thing. I didn't have the guts to do it, but it can be removed and moved to another part of the engine bay (best not to delete it completely).

Once removed, you could, with some creative jigsaw work and a $6 plastic collar, fit the ducting and run it directly to beside the horn (with the plastic euro vent cover removed of course), giving you instant fresh air... If you're brave...

With regards to re-fitting the charcoal canister, just make sure that it can breathe, and use clear tubing in case anything blocks up. If you can't place the canister in an ideal open-air pozzie, perhaps you should at least attach a tube to it's little breather-dongle on the underside and run it out of the engine bay (not sure if that is sound advice? Somebody help me out here!)

Sorry my solution is so damn hard! I hope someone else's is easier...

Cheers, John :cool:

golfvr6
24-11-2006, 08:51 AM
[QUOTE=Mk3vr6]Hey Guys,

I want to fabricate a air duct for the vr6 at current the air is coming through the front right wheel arch (factory standard one). :(

What I want to do is fabricate one so that it comes from the front where cool air can come through. Just for abit of a better responce. I have already bought 3" flexible tubing and I was wondering if anyone has done this before and how hard is it to do?

QUOTE]


I've taken my right front indicator out, attached the top third of a fruit juice bottle to the end like a funnel, (also got a kamei intake in front of it) and run the hose up from there, next to the engine (just in the front left corner when looking from the front) and up to a cone filter

KI11Z
24-11-2006, 11:12 AM
No help possibly but i'm looking at ways too myself! although I've scored myself a set of Hella Dual light housings where I'm going to (hopefully) remove the inside (outside would be preferable) light and run ducting straight from there! Would work a charm . . . Got the idea from that German Red Devil VR6 . . .

Good luck and keep us posted with what you do! :D

DVR68U
24-11-2006, 02:42 PM
hey guys you can put your charcoal cansiter on the other side of the car in the same spot, there are a few rightups about it on the vortex etc, it can be made to look completely stock. which is handy for rego
cheers brenton

SOHC
24-11-2006, 11:42 PM
Sorry got no idea how it works out for a VR6, as GL engine bays pretty spacy
just went Bunnings bought one of those and just stick it to the front, I'd feel a bit better response on the freeway

KI11Z
29-11-2006, 01:28 AM
How'd you go Steve?! I've done a few things wid my ducting if your interested in having a look? I'll post pics up if you are . . . :)

DubSteve
29-11-2006, 09:37 AM
How'd you go Steve?! I've done a few things wid my ducting if your interested in having a look? I'll post pics up if you are . . . :)

Yeha post some pics please I havent done it yet I have had no chance to do it yet. Just got the car back yesterday from getting new springs and a new clutch SNAP :D lol

BL33SU
29-11-2006, 09:38 AM
Yeha post some pics please I havent done it yet I have had no chance to do it yet. Just got the car back yesterday from getting new springs and a new clutch SNAP :D lol

so easy to do uleh! get your hands in der and start, looking at it doesnt get it done

DubSteve
29-11-2006, 09:49 AM
so easy to do uleh! get your hands in der and start, looking at it doesnt get it done

You do it for me then Ray.

BL33SU
29-11-2006, 10:02 AM
ok just tell me when your free

KI11Z
02-12-2006, 07:00 PM
kk, sorry, havn't been on for a couple of days! heres some pics . . . I've re-located that "carbon box" thing by lengthening the tubing and like you can see, there are almost identical holes on the other side!

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Had to cut some of the 'cardboard like' support soz it didnt rub on the belt.

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From undernieth, the circles are where the carbon thing was . . .

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Now on the other side . . .

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Ran the tubeing round the back up inside the wire loom compartment . . .

KI11Z
02-12-2006, 07:08 PM
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almost identical, It's just missing the third bottom hole; I just shaved that knob of the box; It seems to hold just fine . . .

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Have cut out a section of that bottom vent. . .

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Just painted the inside black, otherwise it looked more like it was missing something . . .

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Not that noticable . . .

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Vwalaa . . .

:)

Golf Loon
02-12-2006, 07:33 PM
Nice work. What about a nice piece of black mesh over the aperture?

Golf Loon
09-12-2006, 08:54 PM
Was taking apart a VR6 today and thought I`d add a pic, so people know what we are talking about.

http://xs410.xs.to/xs410/06496/piping.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs410&d=06496&f=piping.jpg)

This pic is taken with no headlight and no bumper on the car. Bottom right of the shot is the black grille in the bottom of the bumper and top left is the airbox which we are aiming for.

I reckon I`d relocate the horn, move the charcoal cannister over to where the horn was and put the piping from the bottom of the car up to the box.

The previous owner has already modified up the black grille on this car and cut a hole in it and attached a piece of pipe. And relocated the temp sensor. Here are a couple of pics of the modded grille, bit muddy, but cleaned up ok.

http://xs410.xs.to/xs410/06496/cover1.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs410&d=06496&f=cover1.jpg)

http://xs410.xs.to/xs410/06496/cover2.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs410&d=06496&f=cover2.jpg)

Sweet Job. It`d take you all day to make that. First one of you VR6 nutters to make a cash offer can have this one :)

Golfer
14-12-2006, 11:46 PM
Hey, i can see it now!

I had the bumper cover, bumper, alternator, airbox, belts, battery, well heaps of crap off the car today, and saw the set up on the passengers side of the car where the charcoal canister could be located...

It it so do-able!!!!!!

Do it guys, seriously, the cold air benifits would be unsurpassed. You may have to ad-lib a little, but it would be a whole lot of fun! I'm having thoughts about buying a VR6 instead of my little beastie, so im not doing it just yet, but all i need are a few re-enforcing words that GL's arent all that bad...

Hmmmmmmmm....

If you're really keen for pics i'll get the camera happening and redo it to show all. It's simple as, but what's been posted already should be enough to work from. Just a hint though, if you remove the bumper cover and bumper first, you'll make your life so so so much easier!

Good luck guys!
John:cool:

Golfer
14-12-2006, 11:56 PM
Oh and hey KI11Z, PM sent mate, I just can't stop breaking stuff on my poor Dub :(

I need help! (Prolly in more than one way!)

Golfer
15-12-2006, 12:13 AM
Oh hey BTW, here's my idea for the perfect CAI.......

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/airintake1.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/airintake2.jpg

AHAHAHAHAHA..... but seriously, my light's F'd, and i couldn't get it back in the car 2day, so i had to drive to work with no driver's side light! On the up side, engine response was great!!! :D

Cheers!
Johnno :cool:

DubSteve
15-12-2006, 08:08 AM
Hahaha good work there Johno.

I have a few words that will reinforce you about your car.... BUY A VR6 :D:D:D and you will be grining from ear to ear. One word POWER lol.

Nice tidy car you have there BTW.

Golfer
15-12-2006, 11:04 AM
Thx Steve, but the problem is i would buy a VR6 tomorrow if i could sell the GL. Not that i've tried, but it seems damn near impossible to sell up here at the moment, noone's buying cars at all. Would i be stupid to ask 6G for a GL?

Since I bought it i have
- Replaced Timing belt
- Replaced Water pump
- Replaced A/C Compressor, T/X, Rec/Dryer
- 4 New Dunlop Tyres (1500k's)
- Replaced all 4 rotors and pad sets
- Fitted K&N, slight modification to air box for better CAI
- Fitted seat covers and VW floor mats
- Done some rewiring, and taken a lot of the car apart, replaced seized bolts, cleaned and lubed everything
- Lubed up all 4 power window regulators, replaced front drivers reg
- Had it serviced twice fully, and given a full tune
- Replaced battery with a brand new sealed Euro unit
- Primed and painted all textured bumpers

What do you all think? Real market value is hard to tell i think...

Cheers
John :cool:

Bug_racer
15-12-2006, 11:56 AM
- Had it serviced twice fully, and given a full tune

Cheers
John :cool:

You havent been playing with the flapper in the MAF have you ?
The car really shouldnt go out of tune in the first place

DubSteve
15-12-2006, 12:14 PM
Thx Steve, but the problem is i would buy a VR6 tomorrow if i could sell the GL. Not that i've tried, but it seems damn near impossible to sell up here at the moment, noone's buying cars at all. Would i be stupid to ask 6G for a GL?

Since I bought it i have
- Replaced Timing belt
- Replaced Water pump
- Replaced A/C Compressor, T/X, Rec/Dryer
- 4 New Dunlop Tyres (1500k's)
- Replaced all 4 rotors and pad sets
- Fitted K&N, slight modification to air box for better CAI
- Fitted seat covers and VW floor mats
- Done some rewiring, and taken a lot of the car apart, replaced seized bolts, cleaned and lubed everything
- Lubed up all 4 power window regulators, replaced front drivers reg
- Had it serviced twice fully, and given a full tune
- Replaced battery with a brand new sealed Euro unit
- Primed and painted all textured bumpers

What do you all think? Real market value is hard to tell i think...

Cheers
John :cool:

Hey John I think that is pretty good it looks tidy and I think that it will sell.

From what the photos show it looks heaps good in its current condition.

Golfer
15-12-2006, 03:35 PM
Figuratively speaking i think Bug Racer, just had the codes checked, throttle body cleaned and lubed, injectors cleaned and so on... So the mechanic says anyway...

Golf Loon
15-12-2006, 04:10 PM
I reckon $6k is fair. People are still advertising them for $9k, but they are not getting it. They get good money on ebay.

Two words of warning about a VR6. Thirsty Beast.

KI11Z
15-12-2006, 11:58 PM
Thirst Thirsty! so tru loon . . . Whats other peeps figures? mine averages 10.4ish on setting 2 over a long period?! certainly likes the juice when you get stuck into her! But all in all . . . WICKED FUN! j:

Golf Loon
16-12-2006, 08:17 AM
Yeah and if you have a VR6, as if you drive it sensibly. I drove all mine like a .... Loon :)

midget
16-12-2006, 09:07 AM
0.0

all this talk about vr6's and power, makes me wanna buy one

:(

DubSteve
17-12-2006, 02:22 PM
Yeah and if you have a VR6, as if you drive it sensibly. I drove all mine like a .... Loon :)


Lol Same I average about 13.5L usually. Thirsty I know sometimes I feel like I work just to put fuel in the car lol.

Golfer
17-12-2006, 09:50 PM
OMFG!!!!!!!

On a break from work today i met up with Alex (KI11Z) and talked dubs for ages and then he took me for a quick spin in the KI11Z...

Let's just say my appreciation for VR6's has, well, increased somewhat. I couldn't think of a better way to lose my VR6ginity... Thanx Alex, made my christmas!!!

That car hoots, absolute weapon :D - if all VR6's are like that, sign me up!!!

Cheers
John :cool:

KI11Z
17-12-2006, 10:22 PM
HAHA, nice ;)

I actually bumped into a black VR6 on the way back through surfers!! Had to chase him but worth it. Had 18" momo rims, dumped wid adjustables, subtle body mods and full leather interior . . . nice work, hes only had it for 2mths and just moved to the coast, Should see him on here soons hopefully :cool: . . .

Golfer
17-12-2006, 10:27 PM
Aahh, good stuff - recruiting some Queenslanders. Sounds pretty wild with 18's, hope we see him on here soon :D

Golfer
23-12-2006, 08:58 AM
Finally got some pics of my Airbox mods guys!!!

Camera's working again...

Anyone for swiss cheese..?
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80961.jpg
All the holes are drilled strategically so they only draw cold air from the well ventilated areas on the side away from the engine...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80962.jpg
I removed the vacuum lines and taped closed the flapper so it cant let any hot air in...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80963.jpg
Which can be seen better here...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80964.jpg

Golfer
23-12-2006, 09:02 AM
Then i routed the plumbing beside the main serp belt
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80965.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80967.jpg
And out the front into glorious fresh air!!!
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80966.jpg
Then to add the final touch!!!
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/STP80968.jpg

DubSteve
23-12-2006, 10:28 AM
Awesome work there John keep up the good work there mate.

Golfer
29-01-2007, 12:16 PM
I'm gonna bump this for Kenji...

Added new pics of where I've now placed the intake pipe (Can you spot it?)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/intake.jpg

Plus wanted to show off the euro spoiler!!!

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/MightyEFIIXR8/front.jpg

Hope it helps

monkeysrus
29-01-2007, 02:09 PM
Ok, here it is - my twin intake set up with std airbox. Any cop that looks under the hood will see stock items only. :D

Here is the look from the front of the car. I have intakes on both sides to replace the stock grilles. They are bonrath and i picked them up from carshine in melb. Passengers side is for nothing at moment. Will probably mount my oil cooler behind it when i get it.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/01/DSC01856JPG-1.jpg

Closer view of the driver side intake. Note i have installed the air temp sensor back where it belongs. I will put some mesh over the intake so i don't suck up a kitten soon. :eek:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/01/DSC01857JPG-1.jpg

monkeysrus
29-01-2007, 02:09 PM
View of tubing running up to the airbox via the charcoal canister hole.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/01/DSC01864JPG-1.jpg

Both intakes coming into the airbox. Was not too much of a pita to fit. :thumbup:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/01/DSC01863JPG-1.jpg

Inside the airbox. Both intakes separately coming in. Not only does this allow much better breathing, I can be less worried about aqua-lock as it will always breathe via both intakes. I also feel much more confident knowing a garbage bag etc can cover the lower intake and the car wont stall.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/01/DSC01862JPG-1.jpg

So how does it feel?? Much better. It also feels like it gets some positive pressure when moving along at speed. (maybe I've been smoking too much crack) :sly:
I am currently running a k&n filter as a std paper will get ruined i assume. I am going to change over to a non oiled foam type asap.

Sound is great, and not too over the top. Cost me less than $100 all up. Bargain. :P

Golf Houso
01-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Wow this all sounds great... but one thing... When you put more ducting on, don't you have to filter the air coming through somehow? The charcoal filter filters the air coming in, don't you have you do the same for the improvised air ducts in the car? Otherwise you might have a higher risk of rubbish getting into the engine... Suggestions?

KI11Z
02-02-2007, 12:13 AM
hehe, the filter sits ontop of all the inlets, all the air is channeled up into the bottom off the filter and sucked through it . . . ;)

DubSteve
02-02-2007, 08:26 AM
Monkeysrus were did you get those 2 pieces thats awesome and they look pretty decent is there a link to get them. :)

monkeysrus
03-02-2007, 01:44 PM
I came as a kit. It is the http://www.bonrath.com/e/go.htm

I bought it from carshine in Melb. Not sure if they have them anymore. You should be able to get them from the UK.

rayray086
22-03-2007, 06:41 PM
I think I just noticed this! Well here's mine anyway:

Taken out the plastic ducting:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/03/CIMG5752-2.jpg

Swiss cheese? Screw that!:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/03/CIMG5763-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/03/CIMG5764-2.jpg

Now it's not as effective as the rest of you guys with the ducting and all, but it does tend to drive smoother (maybe just my imagination), so I can't be getting much heatsoak from the engine. Shouldn't be a problem with hydrolock either as I'd imagine that part of the engine bay is quite dry.

Still using paper air filter, but will be changing to a K&N filter when it's time for a service.