Lock Nuts?

[vRS554]

Has anyone fitted lock nuts to an Octavia RS? I tried to get some through my dealer the other day and he said they weren't able to get lock nuts for the Skoda.
Just interested if anyone else has fitted any and if so what did you get

[brad]

Has anyone fitted lock nuts to an Octavia RS? I tried to get some through my dealer the other day and he said they weren't able to get lock nuts for the Skoda.
Just interested if anyone else has fitted any and if so what did you get

The RS doesn't come with locknuts? (the Elegance does)

Is this (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showpost.php?p=238860&postcount=90) any help

[woofy]

Um it comes with them already.....take a look at your toolkit and you'll find the special adaptor...be warned the nuts have little plastic caps on them that look like they are just the nuts.....fooled me until someone mentioned them and went looking.

[gregozedobe]

ditto what woofy said.

I'd be slightly concerned that your dealer didn't know such a basic (and easily checked) fact.

Be aware that the std VAG locking nuts aren't really that secure, IIRC there are only about 16 variants, and some low lifes have gone to the trouble of acquiring all 16.

[brad]

ditto what woofy said.

I'd be slightly concerned that your dealer didn't know such a basic (and easily checked) fact.

Be aware that the std VAG locking nuts aren't really that secure, IIRC there are only about 16 variants, and some low lifes have gone to the trouble of acquiring all 16.

Variant # is written on the base of the bolt (incase you need a new adaptor nut) - I thought there were 9 but 16 sounds good too.

[woofy]

I'm never surprised what dealers say, the reason I went with Richmond Skoda is because they actually knew something, the FT Gully guys knew nothing, which is weird as by accident I've discovered somethere has made a Skoda website with far more info the the corporate Australian one....

I've had a few conversations with sales guys, originally at Mazda where they don't know even the basic features about a car. When I ask why, they complain and say well there are all these models...usually though no more than 8 types with variants within.....when they pull the BS excuse I tell them what I do, and that I have to remember intricate details of 2500+ products and know technically how they work....

Recently at a Mazda dealer I used to use, I was in the showroom waiting for someone and saw and heard two sales guys tell an 18 yr old (whose dad was buying him a brand new car no less), that he couldn't have an RX-8 cause the power was too high. About 70% of all sales of them are the auto version which is perfectly legal and under a Mazda 6 in power......so he moved onto selling him a Mazda 3....I could have stepped in, but that sales tool has been there for year and if he was stupid enough to botch a sale of a 50k car over a 22k car...then I'm not going to stop him.

[gregozedobe]

.....and if he was stupid enough to botch a sale of a 50k car over a 22k car...then I'm not going to stop him.

Look at the bright side - you may have helped save a couple of teenager's lives :biggrin: :wasntme: (obviously the teenager wasn't that bright, or he would have known what was legal and what wasn't - I certainly would have done my research before shopping)

[woofy]

The dude looked 28, I was surprised when he said he was 18, slightly surprised when his Dad said he was buying him a car, and just angry when the guy started almost crying when he was told he couldn't have an RX-8...he knew nothing about them, and then had a sook anyway.

[vRS554]

Well probably should have looked myself before posting :duh:
Pretty bad that I had both the head of service and the spare parts guy tell me they couldn't get lock nuts of any type for the wheels.

[selurs]

Picked up my new :banana: (yellow FL RS) last Friday, and all of a sudden had a thought about my wheels disappearing. Hmm...anyway, tracked down this thread, but after removing all wheel bolt covers, discovered - no lock nuts! Is this now standard on the FL alloys, or has something been missed? Am I missing something?

I do *not* have the adaptor in my tool kit, so it would seem to be "on purpose" so to speak, but was wondering if anyone else with a FL Octavia (esp the RS) is in the same situation, or not, before I call my dealer and ask what gives.

[woofy]

To be honest mine was supposed to have them as it was listed as a feature, but I've never pulled off the caps to check.

[gregozedobe]

To be honest mine was supposed to have them as it was listed as a feature, but I've never pulled off the caps to check.

Have you got a key ? It should be in with the jack etc on top of the spare. It looks a bit like a socket but with a weird pattern where it goes over the bolt.

I checked that my (pre-FL) vRS had the key AND that the key fitted all 4 locking bolts before I drove off when I picked mine up. I figured it might be slightly awkward if I had a flat tyre and couldn't get it off to put the spare on.

[K1W1]

I don't think that the face lift vRS models come with locking wheel nuts. I can't find any evidence of them being fitted on mine and the manual indicates that they are optional.

[selurs]

Have you got a key ?

Nope - checked the tool kit. No key. I guess if Kiwi didn't get one either, then the FLs dont' get them (It's not specifically listed in the specs, and I made the mistake of assuming that since the pre-FLs had them the FL would too...) :frown:

So, that leads to the next question - is there anywhere that would have the bolt sizes listed? I couldn't see them in the manual, and it would be nice to avoid having to pull one off and measure it myself. Also, any recommendations as to where would be a good place to order from/go to to get locking nuts?

[brad]

So, that leads to the next question - is there anywhere that would have the bolt sizes listed? I couldn't see them in the manual, and it would be nice to avoid having to pull one off and measure it myself. Also, any recommendations as to where would be a good place to order from/go to to get locking nuts?

it's written on the wall at home & I'm at work but 12mm x 1.5(thread pitch) rings a bell. You can buy them off Skoda spares - they aren't OTT pricewise (not in the UK anyway) Should also be able to get the plastic covers (the locknuts have a different cover).

Look in the Gold MKV section - somebody bought some there & mentions part #s & prices. Possibly in the "What did you do to your MKV" thread.

[Jake02]

My dad went to get the rear tyres changed around 6 months ago and we were in the waiting room one of the workmen came in and asked where the adaptor for the locking-wheelnut was. We had no clue of the car actually having one, but there is one locking-wheelnut on every wheel (leaving 4 normal other wheelnuts on every wheel) and he said that this is standard equipment on most Euro vehicles.

The adaptor is in the little storage spot above the spare-wheel (where the jack etc is placed) and my 08' RS has it so I'm not sure about other models. The locking nut is visibly different to the others so it would be easy to spot.

[K1W1]

There are no wheel lock nuts on my car.
The tool kit (I'm using the term euphemistically) consists on a jack, a wheel brace and a towing eye. There is a cut out in the foam for a lock nut "key" but there is no key present. I have also checked all five wheel nuts on each wheel and every one of them is a standard wheel nut. There are no keyed nuts with covers over them.

[woofy]

To be honest I'm pretty sure my pre FL had them on it, as I vaguely remember being shown where the adaptor was. I wonder what else has been dropped silently from the RS.

So far:

Interior alarm
and for a while the heated seats was gone, but seems back
lock nuts

But you now get the Bolero and the MDI option and LED DRLs....the other things are comparable really.

[kenvik_7]

Hi everyone, apologies for resurrecting this thread. But I just wanted to confirm that the FL RS does not come with wheel locking bolts and hence we need to purchase these separately in case we want to protect our wheels?

Assuming this (and I'm still awaiting the delivery of my RS sedan - hoping to get it by 3rd week of March), I wanted to ask if anyone has purchased McGards Locking bolts for their RS?

My research (on Briskoda and VW Vortex) showed that they are quite reputable. So I now want to now confirm the correct size of locking bolts for for FL RS wheels (18" Neptunes), before ordering these.

McGards site search shows that the correct bolt type and size for the VW Gti (Mk V onwards) is M14 x 1.5 Thread Size, Radius type seat. The part no. is 28018. The bolt length is 1.84" with Shank length 1.05"

Unfortunately McGard's site does not have Skoda cars listed and hence I can't fit the exact part no. for the RS.

I wanted to request if any one can please confirm whether these will fit on the RS (or does the bolt length seem a bit short?).

I want to ask my cousin who is visting me from the US to buy a set for me (as the price of these in the US is really cheap as compared to Oz), and hence I'd really appreciate your assistance at the earliest.

Thanks guys.

[woofy]

Hi everyone, apologies for resurrecting this thread. But I just wanted to confirm that the FL RS does not come with wheel locking bolts and hence we need to purchase these separately in case we want to protect our wheels?

Assuming this (and I'm still awaiting the delivery of my RS sedan - hoping to get it by 3rd week of March), I wanted to ask if anyone has purchased McGards Locking bolts for their RS?

My research (on Briskoda and VW Vortex) showed that they are quite reputable. So I now want to now confirm the correct size of locking bolts for for FL RS wheels (18" Neptunes), before ordering these.

McGards site search shows that the correct bolt type and size for the VW Gti (Mk V onwards) is M14 x 1.5 Thread Size, Radius type seat. The part no. is 28018. The bolt length is 1.84" with Shank length 1.05"

Unfortunately McGard's site does not have Skoda cars listed and hence I can't fit the exact part no. for the RS.

I wanted to request if any one can please confirm whether these will fit on the RS (or does the bolt length seem a bit short?).

I want to ask my cousin who is visting me from the US to buy a set for me (as the price of these in the US is really cheap as compared to Oz), and hence I'd really appreciate your assistance at the earliest.

Thanks guys.

I do honestly wonder whether there is much benefit putting them on at all. I've never had wheels stolen, I've never heard of anyone since the 80s getting their wheels stolen unless they are the real mag alloys that some cars eg Porsche use. Once upon a time only certain cars had alloys, these days they come with pretty much every model, and if you go to sell the OEM ones they are worth bugger all.

[K1W1]

Commodore and Falcon wheels are regularly stolen because they are used on trailers. There are very few instances of other vehicles having wheels stolen and in my experience of my last two cars having factory lock nuts they are a pain in the rectum whenever you take the car in for service or a tyre change.

[kenvik_7]

I agree that these days one hardly hears about 'mags' getting stolen, but I just feel why take a chance. Its better to be safe than sorry, and I hear that replacement 18th Neptunes from the dealer are about $500 each!
Also since the bolts are currently on speacial in US, I was thinking - why not?

[K1W1]

and I hear that replacement 18th Neptunes from the dealer are about $500 each!

Don't forget another $250 or so (I'm guessing) for the tyre. I've never seen a wheel thief take just the rim and leave the rubber. :-)

[Dutch]

I must be one of the only victims here, when i took ownership of my 05 BSpec Liberty, 14 days later I found it on wheels jacks in our security carpark in Camperdown with all 4 18" wheels gone. I looked at lock nuts after this but all the tyre dealers sort of iterated that if they want them they will get them even with lock nuts.

I'm not going to bother with lock nuts for the RS even though i've had it happen. I did look at the McGard's back then and they seemed to be the best at the time.