The Official Golf Mk VI Picture Thread

[masev]

Haha! I think I'll be sleeping in the garage and bonding with my R for the first 5 days! :)

[driver19]

Good choice of specs :P
I already had the number plate from my last GTI so I had it transfered.
Just went for a drive to test the headlights and check it wasn't too lonely in the garage without me.

Can I ask you something about the RNS510... do you know if it has the latest firmware or not?

[Ryan_R]

Nice pics of the family (GTI and EOS) there - does that mean you might get a Golf Cabriolet in 9 or so months? :D

[shakespeare]

Some pics today, was out and about with only the compact camera and was around midday but still gives you an idea! Will take better ones with the SLR when I get the chance, enjoy! Gotta say I am loving every second spent in my R :D

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR6-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR5-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR4-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR3-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR2-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR1-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/VWR7-2.jpg

[BezzyR]

Congrats Shakespeare look great mate, love the pics, thanks for posting them!
Get any pics of the interior? Hows the leather?

[SilvrFoxX]

phooar... RB in full sunlight ..!!

Hope that isnt a stone chip on the rear bumper near the revers parking sensor on the left hand side..

[Orient Express]

Hello from the US. Here are some random shots that all of you down under might like to see from a trip I did this month down to Death Valley California. Enjoy!

Here are some random shots from there:

http://www.gjlenterprise.com/gtideathvalley1.jpg

As gas prices are in Death Valley today, US National gas prices will surely follow. I am glad my GTI gets 32 mpg! I'm not sure what you guys pay for premium gas but I think that this translates into about $5.43/gallon. Today on average US prices for premium are about $3.00/gallon, and Death Valley is famous for having the highest gas prices in the US.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/04/gtideathvalley2-1.jpg

This was in the parking lot of Badwater California, 375 ft below sea level.

http://www.gjlenterprise.com/gtideathvalley3.jpg

On the road outside of Barstow California. This is a welding shop that is a favorite photo stop.

[SilvrFoxX]

Wicked Shots.. love the RED.. whats the spec of your Golf

[simonm]

Hello from the US. Here are some random shots that all of you down under might like to see from a trip I did this month down to Death Valley California. Enjoy!

Nice pics! They look like Golf R wheels. :-)


As gas prices are in Death Valley today, US National gas prices will surely follow. I am glad my GTI gets 32 mpg! I'm not sure what you guys pay for premium gas but I think that this translates into about $5.43/gallon. Today on average US prices for premium are about $3.00/gallon, and Death Valley is famous for having the highest gas prices in the US.

That works out to about AUD$1.28/litre. Premium (98 RON) here at the moment is about AUD$1.47/litre in Sydney, around AUD$1.40 in Canberra. This is pretty normal. Queensland usually has cheaper petrol than us.

[SilvrFoxX]

Nice pics! They look like Golf R wheels. :-)



That works out to about AUD$1.28/litre. Premium (98 RON) here at the moment is about AUD$1.47/litre in Sydney, around AUD$1.40 in Canberra. This is pretty normal. Queensland usually has cheaper petrol than us.

Naa the wheels are close but the triangles are missing..

Cheap Queensland fuel is a thing of the past the state govt. removed the subsidies so I think it is now parity with everyone else

[Fab_R]

Magnificent shots shakespeare, congratulations. Looks amazing.
Even after 5-6 months of ownership, I still cant wait to get in mine each day.
Im sure everyone will be the same, even after years!!!:wink:

[Orient Express]

Wicked Shots.. love the RED.. whats the spec of your Golf

It is the 2.0 TSI with an APR stage 1 update and 6 sp DSG. I've put larger front and rear roll bars, and other cosmetic bits like the LED tail lights, and rear view camera, etc. I've got the RNS-510 radio and the 9W7 bluetooth module too. The wheels are Audi S4 replicas.

This has turned out to be one of the best touring cars I have ever had. It is very rare here in the US as we don't seem to like 5 door hatchbacks at all.

[SilvrFoxX]

Sounds like a great ride.. hatchbacks are quite popular here but then again we dont have much thought for Pickups..great to have you pn the forum

[Flighter]

That's a bit of a worry that it is not legal now though... did you ask for 35%? I was planning on either their Octane or Midnight Express.

A tint installer told me that those "darkest legal tints" (including the ones they install) are actually all about 28%, and hence technically illegal. Look great though.

[Prodigy]

Fantastic pics Shakespeare, the RB looks great in the sunshine.

Has the front windows been tinted or are you having that done later? They look darker than normal but not as dark as the rears, then again it may just be the bush beside the car that makes them look darker.

[shakespeare]

Fantastic pics Shakespeare, the RB looks great in the sunshine.

Has the front windows been tinted or are you having that done later? They look darker than normal but not as dark as the rears, then again it may just be the bush beside the car that makes them look darker.

Thanks Prodigy, the fronts haven't been tinted yet, I was going to get Wangara to do it, but wanted to collect it on Friday so will get it done next week to try and match the rears and UV coat the rears at the same time.

[Corey_R]

A tint installer told me that those "darkest legal tints" (including the ones they install) are actually all about 28%, and hence technically illegal. Look great though.


Has the front windows been tinted or are you having that done later? They look darker than normal but not as dark as the rears, then again it may just be the bush beside the car that makes them look darker.

These two posts belong together. Prodigy's observation that the front windows (which are not tinted) already look slightly tinted, is why some companies "35% VLT" tint actually ends up being 28%. It's because those companies do not take into account the fact that glass often already has a mild tint from the factory. In the Golf's case it's a very light shade of green tint.

[Peteaussi]

Caught up with a work mate of mine who happens to have the same car as I do except in black and DSG. Went for an awesome drive up into the hills - about 200km.

Hope you enjoy the pics.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/201011281114511-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/201011281115361-2.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/201011281351071-2.jpg

[SilvrFoxX]

Thats just S3X

[shakespeare]

Had a product called "Optimum Opti Coat" applied today and it looks stunning! Enjoy :D

Some info here (aplogies for linking to another forum but the info's there for those interested.)

Optimum Opti-Coat (http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/zen-automotive-suppliers-zas/7259-optimum-opti-coat.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat6-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat1-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat2-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat3-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat4-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat5-2.jpg

[Corey_R]

Had a product called "Optimum Opti Coat" applied today and it looks stunning! Enjoy :D

Some info here (aplogies for linking to another forum but the info's there for those interested.)

Optimum Opti-Coat (http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/zen-automotive-suppliers-zas/7259-optimum-opti-coat.html)
Seems like a better idea than the fony "paint protection" liquids/sprays/sealants that dealers charge you a $1000 for and other places charge you ~$400 for, and whilst it sounds as though it will offer better protection from dirt and bugs and even swirling during washing, it's still not a physical barrier like Paint Protection Film is (3M/Venturesheild etc). Out of interest though, how much did it cost? Depending on cost, something like this might actually be a great solution in combination with a "partial" PPF kit.

The pictures look fantastic! RB just looks great in the sun :)

[Jasonpb]

Seems like a better idea than the fony "paint protection" liquids/sprays/sealants that dealers charge you a $1000 for and other places charge you ~$400 for, and whilst it sounds as though it will offer better protection from dirt and bugs and even swirling during washing, it's still not a physical barrier like Paint Protection Film is (3M/Venturesheild etc). Out of interest though, how much did it cost? Depending on cost, something like this might actually be a great solution in combination with a "partial" PPF kit.

The pictures look fantastic! RB just looks great in the sun :)


Sounds like a waste of money, you have big, well known automotive paint companies spending millions of dollars trying to produce better paints that are more resistant to scratching, failing, marring and stone chipping etc yet this company can do it with a spray on clear coat... yahuh

The example picture in that thread that's linked to, that's how it looks when you apply clear over a prepared surface, what am I missing? you could take a car with failing clear coat to a paint shop and get it fixed and they will treat the surface exactly the same way if you wanted it done on the cheap.

One thing I have noticed about the VW paint is that it's pretty hard compared to other cars I have owned, requires a fair amount of work to remove any minor scratches.

[Corey_R]

Yeah - that's why I say that it'd just depend on how much it cost. One of the issues with newer cars, is that the clear coats are becoming thinner and thinner. This is probably due to "green" (environment) improvements and also padestrian crash testing more so than just "reducing costs". So if you were to do this on a brand new car before it had a chance to get any chips/scratches/swirls, that'd leave more clean coat present for you to polish off later.
But yeah - it'd just depend on cost. Cause otherwise you're best to just wrap the car if you are genuinely interested in protecting your paint.

[dave_r]

Had a product called "Optimum Opti Coat" applied today and it looks stunning! Enjoy :D
Looks great but the cynic in me thinks of it as another snake oil type product. I do like the idea of having the wheels coated in something that allows for easier cleaning but not sure its worth spending all that money?


it's still not a physical barrier like Paint Protection Film is (3M/Venturesheild etc).
I'd like to see an RB R with the ventureshield fitted before pulling the trigger myself, as I still have concerns about the look.


But yeah - it'd just depend on cost. Cause otherwise you're best to just wrap the car if you are genuinely interested in protecting your paint.
Interestingly, the Melbourne installer (ozishield) said they wouldn't do full panels when I asked about the bonnet unless you could provide a 100% dust free room etc.

[Prodigy]

I'd like to see an RB R with the ventureshield fitted before pulling the trigger myself, as I still have concerns about the look.

Interestingly, the Melbourne installer (ozishield) said they wouldn't do full panels when I asked about the bonnet unless you could provide a 100% dust free room etc.

What sort of concerns do you have dave? Is it particularly just with it on the RB? I've heard it is even less noticable on the darker colours. I'll be getting ventureshield fitted to mine the day after i pick mine up do i'll post some pictures up unless Corey gets his done before me. :)

My installer has insured me that he can do the bonnet in one full piece although he has also mentioned to keep in mind that he doesn't have a 100% dust free environment.

[dave_r]

Just like to see it in person to confirm that it doesn't make the paint job look a bit duller etc. If it was done, I'd have pref to have the whole bonnet and front quarters done so you don't see the lines but the installer said he won't guarantee a perfect job. Haven't found anyone else who does it in Melbourne.

Pretty sure Fab has had it down now, so I really should get off my ar$e and go catch up with him (but then I'll know what Stage 2 does and regret it hehe)

[Corey_R]

Yeah - there's a few guys have that ventureshield on their cars now at work. I send people who ask about the product out to look at the cars. Half the time they come back saying that they couldn't find the car since they looked and there wasn't anything there. I then confirm they found the car with the right numberplate and they say yes... so there you go ;)

As for the 100% dust free environment, yeah, I don't think anyone does. But then, I don't know why having it done on a full of half panel would make any difference there. Surface Tech in Sydney say that they won't do installs (whether full or half) if there environmental conditions are not appropriate (too hot/too cold/too windy/etc).

In any case. If it's good enough for Ferrari, it's good enough for my Golf :)

[SilvrFoxX]

Had a product called "Optimum Opti Coat" applied today and it looks stunning! Enjoy :D

Some info here (aplogies for linking to another forum but the info's there for those interested.)

Optimum Opti-Coat (http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/zen-automotive-suppliers-zas/7259-optimum-opti-coat.html)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat6-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat1-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat2-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat3-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat4-2.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/ROpticoat5-2.jpg

Damn where are my tissues...

[dave_r]

Well I'd have thought a partial piece be harder to install than a full panel so not sure why its the case.

Ozicozi pointed me to ozishield in vic when I asked, but who is the main distro in AU? Do you know of a list of authorised/recommended installers or is its just randoms getting the film and installing it?


In any case. If it's good enough for Ferrari, it's good enough for my Golf :)
LOL there is that too!

[Glennb]

Had a product called "Optimum Opti Coat" applied today and it looks stunning! Enjoy :D

Some info here (aplogies for linking to another forum but the info's there for those interested.)

Looks awesome and the link makes for interesting reading too.
Definetly be interested in finding out pricing on this, particularly as my car is parked outside all the time.

[DAL344]

Looks awesome and the link makes for interesting reading too.
Definetly be interested in finding out pricing on this, particularly as my car is parked outside all the time.

Same here - well all day at work anyway. I just sent Mark an email to get some idea of cost & availability. If it's sub-$500 it's worth the gamble in my opinion.

[peedman]

I will prob get this done as well and it costs $295 at reflecteffect

Coming Soon - Opti-coat protection (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?2155-Coming-Soon-Opti-coat-protection)

[Corey_R]

Hmmm. I call the BS on this then. Also because in his post he describes the exact same prep and application process as something like G|Techniq - including the "Opti-coat is then applied one panel at a time." G|Techniq, when installed on its own is actually $595 though.

Seriously, if this was actually "a 2nd clear coat", then firstly it'd be more expensive than $295. Secondly it wouldn't be applied "one panel at a time". You'd just mask up the windows and trim etc and spray it on.

I'd really love to know that it is that makes this different to any of the other "snake oil" products which these guys compare this product to and declare it as being "better".

At this point, since Opti-clear is only $295 and so is G|Techniq (when installed in combination with Ventureshield... which is STILL NEEDED regardless), I'd be going with the G|Techniq. Both products read identically apart from the fact that G|Techniq states that their product only lasts about 5 years. To me, that is what separates G|Techniq from the "snake oil". The fact that they explain what it does, but then don't make any claims about it lasting forever.

[weewilly]

I'm having my Black coated as I've had gone in previous cars... Took dealer up on their offer which coats both inside (worthless) and outside (very worth while). This seems to be a hot thread at the moment but find it hard to follow. Corey, so your suggestion is G/Techniq?
thank you in advance...

[dave_r]

At this point, since Opti-clear is only $295 and so is G|Techniq (when installed in combination with Ventureshield... which is STILL NEEDED regardless), I'd be going with the G|Techniq.
Except you have to be in Sydney to have both done? I found a mob in Melbourne that do the G|Techniq but not ventureshield.

Wonder if we can get Ozicozi to come down to Melbourne again if we get a few cars together? (I know they've done it before)

[Corey_R]

I'm having my Black coated as I've had gone in previous cars... Took dealer up on their offer which coats both inside (worthless) and outside (very worth while). This seems to be a hot thread at the moment but find it hard to follow. Corey, so your suggestion is G/Techniq?
thank you in advance...

The dealer outside coating is worthless. That's long been established. There is no such thing as some "wipe on" product which protects your car indefinitely. Even the Opti-coat marketting information states this. It's just that in that post the "installation process" disclosed by that company then seems to contradict the marketing.

If you're happy wasting your money with the dealer's snake oil, then all the power to you. But what it comes down to is this:
- The only products which form a "physical barrier" are 3M Paint Protection Film/Ventureshield Stoneguard.
- No wipe-on product is permanent
- In my opinion G|Techniq seems to have all the same advantages of Opti-coat, plus the further advantage that the company is honest with their consumers and doesn't claim it lasts forever, and states that it will need to be reapplied eventually.

[Jasonpb]

Glad someone else has jumped on board!

Considering they aren't removing windows/trims and can go over glass etc it was never going to be a "clear coat" put on the car plus the average clear coat a panel shop would use on your car would generally cost them $150-200 bucks alone and up depending on brand. Throw in the prep work required to actually do the work and the material costs I can't see them making any money if they were actually spraying your car with any kind of paint.

If people are willing to hand over up to $500 bucks just for the sake of it I am going to have to start up a new business, be a millionaire in no time ;)

[Corey_R]

Yeah. I've covered this many times, and maybe it's time to separate this out into a separate thread.

But it just depends what you want to do.
If you are trying to protect your car from stone chips and scratches from foreign objects:
The ONLY method is 3M Paint Protection Film / Ventureshield Stonguard. This means that for most people, as having an entire car wrapped would cost $3000+, they'll usually only get the front portion of the car, or sometimes "all forward facing surfaces" of the car wrapped.

If you are just trying to protect your car from the sun and swirl marks and "lightly impacting contaminents" (bird poop, tar, dirt, etc):
Some type of wax/sealant/nano-coat is useful, and should be applied to ALL paint AND on top of the Paint Protection Film (making sure your wax/sealant/nano-coat is compatible with the PPF first!). But be aware that all of these will have to be reapplied at various intervals, some longer than other, but none of them are permanent.

[weewilly]

thank you for the input and clarity... will go next door and ask what the Signaroma people will do it for. had a rap quote done for my Caddies, came in at around 5k per, but that was with design work and four colour separation.
i'm concerned about the black getting the swirls...

[SilvrFoxX]

thank you for the input and clarity... will go next door and ask what the Signaroma people will do it for. had a rap quote done for my Caddies, came in at around 5k per, but that was with design work and four colour separation.
i'm concerned about the black getting the swirls...reduce swirls by using microfibre when you wash & dry it and wash and dry in a single direction...

[weewilly]

thank you Silvrfoxx, have owned black cars before and used kero to wash, worked very well, driving for the next day was deadly due to fumes....... :) latest addition is '08 C-200 which has the Protection. I haven't needed to replace in two years and it really works against swirls and guano, but not against chips.
I went next door and talked to Signarama about a complete 3m rap for my Black. he quoted 1650 including to cover complete car.
I think I am paying 1200 for interior/exterior Dealer.

[SilvrFoxX]

Kero.. now that is hardcore..

[weewilly]

after three years didn't have a scratch, also gave up smokin'

[Corey_R]

I went next door and talked to Signarama about a complete 3m rap for my Black. he quoted 1650 including to cover complete car.
$1650 for 3M Paint Protection Film to cover the ENTIRE car (as opposed to a "full kit", which usually just covers the front bumper, grill, lights, half bonnet, half front guards, mirror covers, door cups and upper edge of rear bumper?). And it includes preparation and labour too?

If so, that is the best price I've ever seen, by almost $1000. Are you sure he wanted you publishing that on the internet? It wasn't just some special deal because you've already spent $10k+ with them?

lol.

[weewilly]

Corey_R, didn't go with the raps on the Caddies, went with decals for 1800 each. raps are great if colour separation is needed, otherwise the far cheaper laser cut decals are the G O... (yes paint fade is a problem)... oh yes, try to stay on topic please, mediators will come down hard on ya.... :)
that said you could be right about quote and no I didn't mention I'd spout lyrical to the world and beyond. remember with the 3m film there is no printing... thinking,,, uuummmm the Black on Black picture of the B/B upgrade thats on the web had a very cool TRON thing going on.

[dave_r]

Just an update for the Melbourne people. I've now spoken with Invisible Car Bra's (Couple $100 more for standard kit) and Ozishield. Neither will guarantee a perfect fitment of the entire bonnet piece so not sure what you guys up North or West have been told.

ICB wants about $1500 for the full bonnet and front bar pack which seems a bit excessive to me. As much as I hate panel beaters, it won't cost that much to respray, *if* required.

[ravun]

For "The Official Golf Mk VI Picture Thread" there is certainly a lot of discussion taking place which I am sure is worthy for a different thread. Hopefully with a few people taking delivery soon we will have an abundance of great pictures to admire.

Anyway, shakespeare, your car looks absolutely stunning, the blue has come up looking magnificent. A real head turner and something to be proud of.

[noowve]

Ravun, good point, i have raise this before, there is too many discussion, and that's not what the thread has been created for.. c'mon guys, no pictures, leave the discussion elsewhere..



For "The Official Golf Mk VI Picture Thread" there is certainly a lot of discussion taking place which I am sure is worthy for a different thread. Hopefully with a few people taking delivery soon we will have an abundance of great pictures to admire.

Anyway, shakespeare, your car looks absolutely stunning, the blue has come up looking magnificent. A real head turner and something to be proud of.

[Fab_R]

I got my R Ventureshield installed today by Ozieshield.

The kit installed well and truly exceeded my expectations.

The area's covered were:
* 1st half of the bonnet
* 1st half of the front gaurds
* the entire front bar
* headlamps
* the side & lower gloss black grille fins
* the main grille
* the wing mirrors
* and the rear bar top section - the area that cops the scuffs when the hatch is open

I will put some pics up tomorrow.

You cant tell its got it until you look and find the edges

Very happy!!!

[aVex]

I got my R Ventureshield installed today by Ozieshield.

The kit installed well and truly exceeded my expectations.

The area's covered were:
* 1st half of the bonnet
* 1st half of the front gaurds
* the entire front bar
* headlamps
* the side & lower gloss black grille fins
* the main grille
* the wing mirrors
* and the rear bar top section - the area that cops the scuffs when the hatch is open

I will put some pics up tomorrow.

You cant tell its got it until you look for the edges

Very happy!!!

Would you mind revealing how much it costs ya and how long does it take to have it applied?

[shakespeare]

Seems like a better idea than the fony "paint protection" liquids/sprays/sealants that dealers charge you a $1000 for and other places charge you ~$400 for, and whilst it sounds as though it will offer better protection from dirt and bugs and even swirling during washing, it's still not a physical barrier like Paint Protection Film is (3M/Venturesheild etc). Out of interest though, how much did it cost? Depending on cost, something like this might actually be a great solution in combination with a "partial" PPF kit.

The pictures look fantastic! RB just looks great in the sun :)

Okay guys, the opticoat cost me $600 to have it applied, basically was about 5 hours work for the detailer and $170 for the actual product which incidentally you can do yourself. Personally for me I don't have time to wax my car to maintain the shine so I opted for something that seems to be a good product, basically means I wash it and occasionally run a shine type product and the super shine that it now has is maintained for about a year, at which time it will need a top up which is probably a third of the original cost. End result is I have a very shiny ride for little effort (more time to drive and enjoy!)

Incidentally I enquired about this in conjunction with the ventureshield type of product and the opticoat does not bond too well to the ventureshield, so I decided to not go down that path as I wanted shine :)

[Corey_R]

Corey_R, didn't go with the raps on the Caddies, went with decals for 1800 each. raps are great if colour separation is needed, otherwise the far cheaper laser cut decals are the G O... (yes paint fade is a problem)... oh yes, try to stay on topic please, mediators will come down hard on ya.... :)
that said you could be right about quote and no I didn't mention I'd spout lyrical to the world and beyond. remember with the 3m film there is no printing... thinking,,, uuummmm the Black on Black picture of the B/B upgrade thats on the web had a very cool TRON thing going on.

Yep, I'm fully aware of the difference between the decals and the 3M Paint Protection Film. I'm also aware that we've got a forum full of people in states other than NSW who have been complaining about the expense of getting the 3M Paint Protection Film. $3000 is the cost of getting a "full car wrap" of this Paint Protection Film from the Sydney outfit which is so cheap that it has been causing everyone else on the forum to complain. Then you come along and quote $1650, which is as I said, almost $1000 cheaper than even the cheapest price I've had someone tell me via a PM, let alone what the cheapest known company advertises. Which is why I questioned that we're talking the same product and the same "conditions".

As for everyone complaining about pictures. I'll separate out this discussion when I have time. Don't stress, because our discussion is not stopping anyone from posting pictures. A thread with no talk won't generate more pictures either :)

[Corey_R]

Okay guys, the opticoat cost me $600 to have it applied, basically was about 5 hours work for the detailer and $170 for the actual product which incidentally you can do yourself. Personally for me I don't have time to wax my car to maintain the shine so I opted for something that seems to be a good product, basically means I wash it and occasionally run a shine type product and the super shine that it now has is maintained for about a year, at which time it will need a top up which is probably a third of the original cost. End result is I have a very shiny ride for little effort (more time to drive and enjoy!)

Incidentally I enquired about this in conjunction with the ventureshield type of product and the opticoat does not bond too well to the ventureshield, so I decided to not go down that path as I wanted shine :)

Thanks for that update shakespeare. I too love shine. But for a car which will be driven on the roads, the shine only lasts so long before it's spattered with stone chips, and then that shine is less impressive. So for me, as not driving my car is not an option, preventing the stone chips is priority number 1.

I can confirm that G|Techniq is compatible with 3M Paint Protection Film and Ventureshield Stoneguard. So I'll stick with the G|Techniq.
Cheers.

[dave_r]

For "The Official Golf Mk VI Picture Thread" there is certainly a lot of discussion taking place which I am sure is worthy for a different thread.
Guilty. Will have photos here on Thursday....


I got my R Ventureshield installed today by Ozieshield.
Fab if you're around later in the week, I'll have to head out your way and catch up.

[Jasonpb]

Well don't think I posted in this thread, pictures in the other thread but here it is again, plus a few new products for paint protection, obviously doesn't stop paint chips but that's what a spray gun and a tin of paint is for ;)

When I clean the car which will probably take me a fair few hours I will post up some decent shots.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/golfrpickup-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/cleaningpng-1.jpg

[Prodigy]

Well don't think I posted in this thread, pictures in the other thread but here it is again, plus a few new products for paint protection, obviously doesn't stop paint chips but that's what a spray gun and a tin of paint is for ;)

When I clean the car which will probably take me a fair few hours I will post up some decent shots.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/11/cleaningpng-1.jpg

Am looking forward to seeing some more pics when she's had her wash..

Did you buy it all from 'car care products' online store? If so, they have done well out of a few of us lately..;)

[Jasonpb]

Nope, been purchasing stuff from Dave at waxit for a long time, though he has sold up now. The new mob seems ok still and they matched the prices from some online stores in the US.

I got a lounge room full of stuff and not to mention the other 4x shelves of stuff that I have used in the past, would have to be the most expensive wax I have ever purchased though so be interesting to see how it stacks up against some of the others, gets such great reviews I had to try it!

If you don't already use 303 aerospace the stuff is great ;) go through a fair bit of the stuff but.

[REXman]

Am looking forward to seeing some more pics when she's had her wash..

Did you buy it all from 'car care products' online store? If so, they have done well out of a few of us lately..;)

They dont muck around hey! I jsut had a look for my soon-ish coming GOLF R, and It had waxes for as much as $1499!!

I used to polish my car EVERY SUNDAY, with this stuff for the life of me I cant remember the name of. It was just from Kmart or something, next to the turtle wax, but it was really good. I used to let the polish get right in there and really buff the heck out of it. Looked like glass even though it as a 14 y.o old car. but I think that stuff was only $40 bucks!

How much should I spend on the products now? Anyone not work for the company have an opinion?

[Jasonpb]

They dont muck around hey! I jsut had a look for my soon-ish coming GOLF R, and It had waxes for as much as $1499!!

I used to polish my car EVERY SUNDAY, with this stuff for the life of me I cant remember the name of. It was just from Kmart or something, next to the turtle wax, but it was really good. I used to let the polish get right in there and really buff the heck out of it. Looked like glass even though it as a 14 y.o old car. but I think that stuff was only $40 bucks!

How much should I spend on the products now? Anyone not work for the company have an opinion?

There's a bunch of different products out there, IMO for the most part they look the same. The difference is in how easily they can be applied and how long they might last, I don't think the price I paid for the above wax is worth it but we will see ;)

P21S carnauba wax is probably one of my favourites, doesn't cost the earth and is a pretty nice product. Then you have the poorboys series which for the most part is ok but I have had some plastic trim discolour which they advertise their products don't do. Autoglym make some fairly nice products as well but some of them can be a little harder to work with.

P21S Carnauba Wax (http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_cw.html)

[SilvrFoxX]

How much should I spend on the products now? Anyone not work for the company have an opinion?Open ended answer really.. depends what you want.. we could get the whole wax v synthetics conversation going which would do your head in, and then it is a question of effort on your part.

If you dont mind spending 2 days working the car up from clay then for that effort go the full gammit and spend several hundred on product. If you just up to the wash and wax then go the Mothers or Megs path.. still a good outcome but for a lot less cash.

If you like to do this sort of thing every 6 moths or so then look at synthetics.. they last longer are pretty inexpensive but do a good job and take little to apply. For mine the wax looks deeper and wetter though it is a 3 to 6 month effort proposition..

[dave_r]

How much should I spend on the products now? Anyone not work for the company have an opinion?
I had the same dilemma so I just fired off an e-mail to the cars at CCP last night. I had a look at the stuff prodigy purchased a while ago and that seems like a good setup, though I'm confused about the wax and sealant he got. Do you use one or the other, or both?

Watching their videos, I might clay the Polo to get rid of all the crap and do sealant since its parked outside and washed less often. But do regular wax on mine. I gotta ask the guys how it interacts with the PFF/Ventureshield as well.

Last time I cared about the duco of a car, I used a bunch of meguires/autoglym stuff which cost a fortune but was a pain in the ar$e to apply, most likely I got the wrong stuff. If it's gonna take me a whole weekend to do a car then I'll pay a pro to do it once or twice a year and just stick with regular washing with an appropriate product.

[aVex]

Can we please move all detailing posts to a new "Official MK6 Detailing Thread"?

[Glennb]

Yeah. I've covered this many times, and maybe it's time to separate this out into a separate thread.

But it just depends what you want to do.
If you are trying to protect your car from stone chips and scratches from foreign objects:
The ONLY method is 3M Paint Protection Film / Ventureshield Stonguard. This means that for most people, as having an entire car wrapped would cost $3000+, they'll usually only get the front portion of the car, or sometimes "all forward facing surfaces" of the car wrapped.

If you are just trying to protect your car from the sun and swirl marks and "lightly impacting contaminents" (bird poop, tar, dirt, etc):
Some type of wax/sealant/nano-coat is useful, and should be applied to ALL paint AND on top of the Paint Protection Film (making sure your wax/sealant/nano-coat is compatible with the PPF first!). But be aware that all of these will have to be reapplied at various intervals, some longer than other, but none of them are permanent.

Corey,
this is a quote from ZAS on the Opti-coat forum that was previously linked to which explains things a bit. I don't believe it's being marketed as a permanent solution and does require re-applying regularly to maintain protection. As per your quote above, stone chip protection is different to just making it shiny and sparkly. All i want is an easy clean shiny car, stone chips are just a fact of life.


Hi Guys

The Opti-Coat is in full swing now. The current dealers have received all the warranty documentation and we have a handful of other professional detailers looking at offering the service.

For the optional warranty, it is a lifetime guarantee for new cars treated with Opti-Coat within 12 months of first registration date, and 5 years for used vehicles (ie older than 12 months).

The warranty does require you to have the coating serviced once a year, which will probably annoy some people but we have the clients best interests in mind. Below are some scenarios that you can benefit from with our maintenance program:

Scenario 1 - You often don't have the time to hand wash your car properly and use DIY car washes or tunnel washes

Result: The harsh chemicals used at these types of places will not strip the Opti-Coat unlike other "paint protection" sealants so you don't have to worry about that. But if you drive off and let the panels air dry, eventually you will develop watermarks that will etch into the coating. The advantage of the maintenance program is that you can have the damaged Optimum coating removed at your yearly service and reapplied. The labour involved to remove the coating is not included in your service fee, however the reapplication of the Opti-Coat is.

The end result is the factory paint was protected from the watermarks by the Opti-Coat. The Opti-Coat was damaged but then reapplied and your car still looks awesome and well protected again.

Scenario 2: You don't have the time to hand wash your car correctly so you take it to the cheap hand wash places and have a coffee while they detail your car.

Result: Swirl marks. Everyone has seen this at some stage. Dirty sponges or chamois have scratched and swirled the Opti-Coat. The advantage of the maintenance program is that again you can have the damaged coating removed and then reapplied at your yearly service. Again your car looks awesome again and well protected.

There are a million different scenarios, but I hope I have explained it well and you agree that there is a method to our madness

[Corey_R]

stone chips are just a fact of life.

Not anymore they're not :)

Thanks for the quote though. To me, $600 for this product that needs to be reapplied every 12 months is not good value. I don't really understand how it's any different from any other of these products in this case. I'd be interesting to know what the "Service fee" is. Though I feel tthat even that "Service fee" is going to be a bit misleading because of them stating "The labour involved to remove the coating is not included in your service fee". I mean, what's the point of quoting a "service fee" if it only accounts for half the "service".

[Glennb]

Not anymore they're not :)

Thanks for the quote though. To me, $600 for this product that needs to be reapplied every 12 months is not good value. I don't really understand how it's any different from any other of these products in this case. I'd be interesting to know what the "Service fee" is. Though I feel tthat even that "Service fee" is going to be a bit misleading because of them stating "The labour involved to remove the coating is not included in your service fee". I mean, what's the point of quoting a "service fee" if it only accounts for half the "service".

I agree that it seems it could turn into an open cheque book type situation and gives them an easy way to opt out of their warranty obligations if it's not maintained properly...... but it is shiny! :)

[Jasonpb]

I agree that it seems it could turn into an open cheque book type situation and gives them an easy way to opt out of their warranty obligations if it's not maintained properly...... but it is shiny! :)

It's a new car what do you think it would look like? it looks exactly like mine when I picked it up ;) in a few weeks it will look dirty like mine, $600 doesn't change that fact.

[wooduck]

An interesting new offering on car wraps.

VW Second Coming Soon - Powered By Original Wraps (http://vwsecondskin.com/)

[Peteaussi]

Can I just say that this thread has been officially RUINED by this discussion about paint protection. There are other threads for that. This is a place for sharing and commenting on peoples pics.. not their choice (or lack of choice) of paint protection.

[MurphyTheElf]

Last time I cared about the duco of a car, I used a bunch of meguires/autoglym stuff which cost a fortune but was a pain in the ar$e to apply, most likely I got the wrong stuff. If it's gonna take me a whole weekend to do a car then I'll pay a pro to do it once or twice a year and just stick with regular washing with an appropriate product.

I use the two bucket method, wash approximately every fortnight, and never wax or polish. For my car's first birthday, I spent $300 on a highly-recommended professional detailer. The guy worked on it for 6 hours and did an exceptional job - it came up better than new. When I asked him how my paintwork was, he said it was fantastic - "whatever you have been doing - keep doing it".

I have no protectant on the paint and the car is always parked outside.

[dave_r]

"whatever you have been doing - keep doing it".

Cheers but we better wait for Corey to move all our car care posts to a new Mk6 Detailing thread otherwise these other guys are really gonna have a cry.

[Prodigy]

I had a look at the stuff prodigy purchased a while ago and that seems like a good setup, though I'm confused about the wax and sealant he got. Do you use one or the other, or both?


dave, the idea is you firstly apply the Nanolex Paint Sealant (which i believe should be similar to the opti-coat & G|Techniq which has already been discussed) and then apply the wax on top. I''ve been assured that both items are suitable for the Ventureshield so they will be going on top of that as well. Hopefully this should give the paint a good protective barrier against swirl marks and bird poop.

Hopefully by doing it all myself i will save myself a few $ and then still have product left to be able to re-apply it when required.

[aVex]

Can I just say that this thread has been officially RUINED by this discussion about paint protection. There are other threads for that. This is a place for sharing and commenting on peoples pics.. not their choice (or lack of choice) of paint protection.

Moderators, can something be done? Splitting this thread? I cannot believe people are being ignorant here, this is a picture thread NOT detailing!!

[Prodigy]

Moderators, can something be done? Splitting this thread? I cannot believe people are being ignorant here, this is a picture thread NOT detailing!!

Fair call, Corey is it possible to have a Mk6 Detailing thread?

[Corey_R]

Moderators, can something be done? Splitting this thread? I cannot believe people are being ignorant here, this is a picture thread NOT detailing!!

I've seen your posts, and others, and I already said I'll work on this. (A few pages back).
Please stop complaining. None of this talk is stopping anyone from posting pictures. If people stop talking, there still won't be any pictures, there just won't be any talking! We're not paid to moderate this forum, and there is a few hours work required in tyding up this thread. Right now, everyone has permission to talk as much as you want, because I don't have time to clean it up. I'll do that when I do have time...

[DAL344]

I've seen your posts, and others, and I already said I'll work on this. (A few pages back).
Please stop complaining. None of this talk is stopping anyone from posting pictures. If people stop talking, there still won't be any pictures, there just won't be any talking! We're not paid to moderate this forum, and there is a few hours work required in tyding up this thread. Right now, everyone has permission to talk as much as you want, because I don't have time to clean it up. I'll do that when I do have time...

You should get paid the amount of time & effort you put into the site ..... Not that I'm offering ...

[Jasonpb]

dave, the idea is you firstly apply the Nanolex Paint Sealant (which i believe should be similar to the opti-coat & G|Techniq which has already been discussed) and then apply the wax on top. I''ve been assured that both items are suitable for the Ventureshield so they will be going on top of that as well. Hopefully this should give the paint a good protective barrier against swirl marks and bird poop.

Hopefully by doing it all myself i will save myself a few $ and then still have product left to be able to re-apply it when required.

Don't tell me you're one of those people that like synthetic sealers ;) great idea but IMO it just takes something out of the paint, makes it look a bit like plastic actually especially on black cars. Though I have only used klasse and poorboys ex-p so maybe some others are different.

[Prodigy]

Don't tell me you're one of those people that like synthetic sealers ;) great idea but IMO it just takes something out of the paint, makes it look a bit like plastic actually especially on black cars. Though I have only used klasse and poorboys ex-p so maybe some others are different.

I've never used anything like this before, this will be the first time i've ever used a paint protection product on my car. I'm hoping it won't make the paint look 'like plastic' as you mention, especially once i go over it with a good quality wax.

[dave_r]

Hopefully by doing it all myself i will save myself a few $ and then still have product left to be able to re-apply it when required.
Interesting stuff, don't think I have the attention span to do it though.


makes it look a bit like plastic actually especially on black cars.
Have read that quite a bit and I'm not interested in doing a wax every ~2mths which goes back to the cbf part. Don't think I'll bother with PPF either. Looks like I'm running the gauntlet, unprotected hehe

[Prodigy]

Interesting stuff, don't think I have the attention span to do it though.
Have read that quite a bit and I'm not interested in doing a wax every ~2mths which goes back to the cbf part. Don't think I'll bother with PPF either. Looks like I'm running the gauntlet, unprotected hehe

Fair enough, i'm hoping it's going to last longer than a couple of months before re application is required though.
As for the PPF, that's booked in for Thursday so i'll post some pics of the results, all going well it may change your mind about going out there without protection..:)