My latest sound install for HitmanR32 (non vw)

[glidn]

Hi all finished putting all of Hitman's Sound gear in to his Daily Hack

Its not VW but he reckons it kicks his old R32s arse in handling :P

we reused his 5 Channel V12 Alpine his Dual Voice Coil 8" Subs

and we put some nice Cerwyn Vega 5 and 1/4 Components in the front door.. and disabled the rest of the speakers!
&
Just to break the sound install monotony we decided to put the Amp and subs in the boot :P

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00777.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00777.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00778.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00778.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00779.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00779.jpg)
Checking out What we had to work with and then commencing on the masking off in preparation for Glassing

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00771.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00771.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00772.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00772.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00773.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00773.jpg)

Glassing and Then Popping the Mould Out
http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00774.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00774.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00775.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00775.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00780.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00780.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00781.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00781.jpg)

[glidn]

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00782.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00782.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00783.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00783.jpg)

Making the Box Face...

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00163.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00163.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00166.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00166.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00167.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00167.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00168.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00168.jpg)

Mounting the Face in to the Mould and Showing that we Sound deadened the inside of the box with Bostic sound deadning (Gave the box a perfect Seal)

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00171.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00171.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00172.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00172.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00173.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00173.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00174.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00174.jpg)

[glidn]

Finally Sealing the box with a Polar Fleece Wrap and Resin and then Adding more Deadening in to the seams that were previously open and potentially pourus

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00181.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00181.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00175.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00175.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00176.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00176.jpg)

Carpeting the box

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00188.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00188.jpg) http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/th_DSC00189.jpg (http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/?action=view&current=DSC00189.jpg)

The Finished Product (Perhaps not the prettiest Install but Functional Easy to remove (Nut Serted Anchorpoint for the box) however the Best/Nicest sounding Dual 8" Sealed enclosure i have made to date and the best thing the car albeit 15 years old not one rattle when the sub is blasting away at full and no deadening used in the doors

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/DSC00198.jpg

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq349/abarbarich/TL9567/DSC00199.jpg

We couldnt fit the Cerwyn Vega Tweeters in the stock location so we put them down in the kick panel area.. to lift the sound stage we play them out of phase to the Woofer.. system sound awesome...

[Golf Houso]

Very impressive as usual, what model Mercedes is it?

[glidn]

its just a plane jane C220 Esprit

apparently his family has had it since new... so hes just mucking about with it till he can be botherd buying something else (althou hes been hinting at m3s)

[HOLEIN1]

The Finished Product (Perhaps not the prettiest Install but Functional Easy to remove (Nut Serted Anchorpoint for the box) however the Best/Nicest sounding Dual 8" Sealed enclosure i have made to date



nothing to complain about this install, looks neat and tidy, and most importantly, sounds good! :)

[glidn]

Holein1, yeah my presonal choice would not have been the lighter grey carpet.
But that is what he wanted, it does work well with the Amp board also wrapped in the same shade. I guess it also give the two tone on the Alpine amp more of a prescense.

[Mr ©harisma]

Very nice, soon he might upgrade to a 10inch for extra long excursion ha. Bet it sounds nice and tight. Good to see the old V12 still alive and kicking.

[glidn]

Very nice, soon he might upgrade to a 10inch for extra long excursion ha. Bet it sounds nice and tight. Good to see the old V12 still alive and kicking.

Haha yeah

well there is talk of getting a Beetle Aircooled, oh dear.

These two 8"s do a suprising job really.

[Mr ©harisma]

At least it is only talk at this stage.... any reason for that?

Well the 2 8inchers together on the same plane in the right spot will have a nice bit of kick! You should try putting them in the front stage next :)

[glidn]

haha

yeah 8" front would be nice, i now have a mk3, and the chance of happening are pretty dam slim tbh.

I'm trying to figure out a plan of action for my vr6 thou.

Once i have pieced my stereo together i'll do a build log.

Thus far i have already pulled out all the crap that was in the replace the front mids twice and the sub three times. lol

Now want to get some nice mids, I'm hoping on some Image Dynamics XS65's.

Pitty you are selling the Bora.

[ranton-inc]

hahah yo

Looking at either a 1303s

or a Mazda 3 MPS.. 2.3 litres of turbo mazda good ness ;)

[Mr ©harisma]

Yeah that is the problem with car audio, you are never really happy with it.

ID's should sound good, I have never heard them personally but I hear good things about them. Yeah I just realised you went back to a MK3, looks like trouble. I'm sure you will take lots of pictures. :biggrin:

Yeah the Bora is almost gone, spent all weekend taking all the gear out. Now I have the big whopping Oz Audio Me 12.2 sitting in our spare room and Audison amps looking all pretty on the shelf.

HitmanR32 get the Mazda3 Maxx.. it's soooo much better :eek:

[glidn]

Lol, over in NZ there is no such thing as a Mazda3 Maxx.

Yeah going back to mk3 is abit of trouble.

I have already done a quick install in the MK3. and replaced the front components 3 times already. lol.

Also tried the IDMAX10V3D2, IDQV3D2 and ID8V3D2.
All have there purpose. The IDMAX is incredible.
If I had the room i would certainly run the IDMAX. This things is seriously astonishing. It does everything so effortlessly. WOW is all i can say.

But yeah started playing with tweeter swap and placements, Tried on top of dash, could not get the imaging correct.

Stuck them by the mid firing across from one side door to oposing passenger. Sounded nice but stage was way to low even TA and EQ could not get the image right.

Then tried approx 8" up on the A pillar firing across at each other sounded amazing. Any other angle up there resulted in funny location areas.

So i'm planning on Building the following.

Headunit and amps are bound to stay the same.
Alpine CDA 9887
Eaudio 280Ab or EAudio 480Ab or MRV-F407
Sub amp : Sundown Z1000D.

Fronts:
Dual Alpine Type S SPS-171A's
or Image Dynamics XS65.

Sub Duty: Will Be one of the following
Image Dynamics IDQV2D4
Image Dynamics IDQV3D2/D4

So Yeah,

Either do another Side mounted again.

But toying with the idea currently of doing spare wheel mounted Sub in 0.5ish ft3 sealed with around 600 - 1000Wrms on tap and have the amp in there too.

Not bothered about a spare wheel to be truthful.

Will update and create new log when i start doing the install.
I might even be without the Vr6 by the time i get around to doing the install.

But then again i kind of have to have the front and sub installed by the end of march, but have wedding this weekend, Dive Course (ie. getting diving license) next weekend, then driving down to Wellington (Around 1300km round trip). So yeah not sure when i'm going to get chance to do all this.

Plus the biggest problem is last week still around 30ish degree's, this week dropped down to around 17-20C and also starting to rain again. Bugger.

[ranton-inc]

got my mps love it.. bose system is awesome!

love how its all intergrated and simple.. does that mean im growing up? lol

and knowing Glidn..

he wont be taking lots of pictures unless im there.. i got the trigger happy camera finger! lol

[Mr ©harisma]

love how its all intergrated and simple.. does that mean im growing up? lol


Hmmm can I phone a friend about that one??? :grouphug:

Sounds good though, I do like the MPS. Wish is had a bit more power though ha.... :driver:

[Mr ©harisma]

Yeah I prefer the IDQ probably to the IDMAX. IDMAX needs a crap load of power to get moving. V3 are very nice, lots of low low excursion for a mid range SQ woofer. You looking at an 8 or 10inch?

Perhaps you could try running ambients tweeters in the pillars and the main tweeters in the kicks? Go ID Splits ( can you tell I'm not a fan of Alpines speakers... bring back the old school DD Linear!! ).

I honest do not know how you find the time to do half the installs, I get the shyts after 2 hours generally. Whats going on over there, we have been lucky to hit 25 here, I want summer to turn up but I think it has already past...

[glidn]

funnily enough, I had a USAMPS XT800.4,
Specs 60wrms x 4 @ 4ohm, 250 - 300wrms x 2 @4Ohm.
This amped ran beautifully for around 6 months like that, till it got some 12V + voltage spike on the inputs and blew 3 tracks. Still have not figured out how that happens. Lol, you live and learn.

Now I know this thing is not 2ohm stable in bridged mode. But seriously I had that controlling the IDMAX 10.
Boy that sound F&***&^%^N amazing.

I'll be running 10" single anyway. I'm only using the alpine type S (I had them laying around), as no good speakers are really available now at realistic money, everything is way overpriced with the crappy exchange rate.
I might try some Rainbow SLC265. Allot of people rate them pretty highly.

Yeah if only I can find a set of DD Linear's I would be all over them, Something like the DDS-F17A's. Those sounded awesome. But uber hard to track down.

I might use my set of MB Quartz 325.02CX(5"mid-bass,4"mid,1"tweeter), 3 way components.

If I go the MB Quartz, then I’ll replace the 5" mid with a 6-7" mid.
These MB's are actually a 4ohm set, how strange usually always 6ohm,
As I just about swapped my friend for his 6" MB Mid-bass, then found the 6ohm issue. Bugger. Still not 100% sure what I’m doing about the front stage as yet. Might still run 2 to 3 amps for the front stage.

As for running the ambient tweeters and the tweeters in kick panel. I'll have to play with that to be honest. There is not much room under the dash their on the side of the kick panel. But there is enough room to mount 4" mid down there. I should be able to fit a tweeter down there too.

Doing the two tweeters would not be half bad. If I had a small enough silk tweeter I could mount up high than do the metal dome tweeter down low.

However if I mount the silk down the bottom for volume I could use the metal dome up top to give me the definition?

[Mr ©harisma]

Yeah I know, I have been watching prices here go up and up on things as well putting what was once a really good system costing 25% more.

Never played with ambient tweeters however in the most successful front stage I have seen he had:
- Morel 9inch mounted in the doors
- Morel 4inch mounted high in the kicks
- Morel Supremo mounted low in the kicks
- Cadence tweeter mounted in a similar spot to where you where talking about before.

All run actively of course :) I would probably try the main tweeter down low first with the secondary up top first. I really have not liked any metal tweeters up high as they are usually to harsh for me ( Boston, Focals etc ).

You are gunna take forever to pick a front stage but I'm sure you will be happy with it when you finish! ID do make some decent woofer though, pity you don't have a larger range to select from like we do... or maybe that is a good thing lol.

[glidn]

i do have a whole big range to choose from, here and overseas.
I'm trying to support NZ local shops before going off shore.

However it has to be as simple as possible,
Install has to look clean and tidy,
cannot stand out at all.
And be with in budget.

What's my budget, i have no idea at all. lol
This does not help either.

[Mr ©harisma]

Lol I swear car audio really is an addiction. A bad bad one. Supporting the locals is a great thing, that is why I steer clear of fleabay.

It's a shame but I think I remember you saying you don't have a Morel dealer over there... they sound like they suit you down to a tee.

I am going to experiment with ambient tweeters in the new car. Ending up get a CJ Lancer VRX for the girl. At least it scored the 4B12 2.4litre.

[glidn]

yeah Car audio is a bad addiction i tell you, even thou we have good gear there is always better gear going to come out to we feel we should give try and this cycle never seems to end.

Well i believe the Sundown E8 has finally arrived on our shore down here.
So i feel i'll have to give them a go, alot of people that have them seem to be raving about them.

Could be a nice front addon in the centre console where theres a hole, Lol

Btw, nice score did not know they made the lancer with a 2.4. I guess it's like an Aussie specific model much like the old 1986 mazda 323/Familia with 1.6 turbo and 4wd was childs play. In South Africa they where release with 2ltr turbo and or 4wd.

[Mr ©harisma]

Yeah its simliar to the Lancer GTS which is a US spec. Bascially its just a bored out 4B11. Has a Rockford Fosgate upgrade with a 8channel amp, 6inch splits up front, 2 ways in the rear doors and a 10inch sub. Main thing is the front are actually run actively. Not very loud but not bad from factory.

Plan is the replace the fronts with some Boston SL-60's I have ( xovers allow active ) and put the existing tweeters in series with the existing door mounted rear coaxials. That should mean they will be attenuated 3db over normal, plus then ill be able to fade them out with the rears, if I don't like it ill just disconnect them. :biggrin: Going to keep it as factory as possible.

You can give anything a go once, I'm sure you have some gear lying round spare if it goes pear shaped. I haven't heard much about them here, I'm sure you will find room in this car of yours.

Have you settled on a system yet?

[glidn]

nope not quite, i have actually been contemplating going Rainbow SLX265 Deluxe for front stage now, but will remain with IDQV2D4 as sub bass unless i can find a Soundstream Exact 10".

However if you look at my other thread in the mk3 section, you will notice that my car has no interior, however it's mostly back together.

But in light of everything that has gone on the past 6 days, i might be selling my vr6 now and going to a 1990 toyota corolla 1300cc hatchback.
Sounds very strange, but yeah will see.

I almost did start on the install this weekend,lol. Well i might this week if the vr6 starts and runs tonight, then i'll pull in intake manifold off and maybe powder coat the intake and cam cover at the same time. If i keep the car i'll do the install this week.

On a lighter note, while everything was apart i removed all audio equipment that was in the car when i bought it, some seriously old school boston Acoustic gear. I have replaced the front boston tweeters with some Alpine Type R tweeters i had laying around. Alot of people rave about them so i decided to give them ago, also the Type R crossover allows -6db att. I felt the tweeters where just to bright, i feel -3db will suffice but will start with -6db first. Also i'm running the tweeters out of phase to the mids. this generally results in not only a higher staging presence but also blends the gap with the tweeters and mids better. Or so i have found.

I will however for the meantime stay with passive cross-overs (booo, i know)
And run a small 2ch amp (around 120wrms x 2 @ 4ohm, lol). then use a sundown Z1000D as my bass amp, running 650Wrms @ 2ohm on the IDQv2D4 or 340wrms on Soundstream Exact 10.

I had the chance of playing with one for a few hours around 2 weeks ago, for price point and low power it sounded extremely good, blended very well with the front stage even made the front stage more midbass punchy. Could not once actually hear the sub as such. Only feel it (yeah just the way i like it, lol)

[Mr ©harisma]

Did you end up keeping the VR6?

IDQ FTW! I really do like those woofers, its just a shame I have no use ( or car for that matter ha ) to need one.

You change your mind more than my girl changes outfits... :biggrin:

[glidn]

i guess it's just due to either having to many options or none.

In my collection, i have ID8,IDQV2D4, IDQV3D2 and IDMAX10V3D2.
But as of tomorrow i can now add JL Audio 8W7, its a little monster, lol

Well i'll have sure answer as of tomorrow. If they guy takes my vr6 tomorrow then no, and i get an MK1 Jetta. If not than yeah i'm keeping the vr6.

But i found a Lupo and polo that i'm interested in. Yeah i know just to many options. But in the same breath i have found a MK4 Bora V6 4 Motion in electric blue.

[Mr ©harisma]

Yeah I like your little collection. Had a look yesterday for a replacement woofer in the Lancer if she decides the RF doesn't cut it. Will probably settle for the ID 10v3. My jaw dropped when I seen the Xmax.

You should mount the JL in your door and get another one. That would be crazy!! :biggrin: