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wangsha17
15-10-2008, 04:28 PM
Just bought a set of Ferodo DS2500 for my polo gti, going to install them on friday. I felt the original brakes pads are a bit soft. 309 for front & 170 for rear. how is the deal? is it more expensive than market price? I also have few questions..

do I need to replace the brake oil as well?

does anyone konws what brand is suitable for polo gti? is AP good?

How much normally take for replacing the 4 brake pads? one of workshop ask me 160 bucks, is it reasonable? and the other place near caufield ask me 78 bucks, it's a bit cheap, will their work reliable?

jasn78
15-10-2008, 04:38 PM
mate i think that seems a pretty good deal, speak to some melbourne boys they will point u in right direction of fitting

Blitzen
15-10-2008, 05:01 PM
It depends how old your car is, and where you live too. You shouldn't need to replace your Brake Fluid until you have had the car for between 12 and 24 months if you live in a tropical area, and 24 months if you live anywhere else.

Why not put the pads in yourself...It is an easy job, and takes about 20min each side. You only need basic tools, and if you don't disconnect the brake lines. you don't need to bleed the Brake Fluid. This saves you the $75 you could use on other mods...:biggrin:

The price dosn't seem too bad for the pads...I was quoted $325 ex Canberra for the same pads for the fronts(they were the only ones I was going to do).

wangsha17
15-10-2008, 05:43 PM
Thanks for your suggestion. :)

The pads salesman ask me 160 dollars for labour cost to replace all the pads. and he told me it will takes 2 hours to get it done. It sounds really a hard work to do, coz even them need two hours to finish it.

I really have no experiences for fixing cars, even the SEAT air intake I asked Tim to install it for me. just not really confidence enough to replace them myself (front and rear), if I fail the job it means I will die on the road.. no brake is not a joke.

By the way, at 30000KM the brake oil has been replaced at dealer, now my car is turning to 45000KM, do you think I need to replace the brake oil after replace the pads, anyway the oil only cost 60 bucks for two bottles.

Blitzen
15-10-2008, 06:24 PM
Thanks for your suggestion. :)

The pads salesman ask me 160 dollars for labour cost to replace all the pads. and he told me it will takes 2 hours to get it done. It sounds really a hard work to do, coz even them need two hours to finish it.

I really have no experiences for fixing cars, even the SEAT air intake I asked Tim to install it for me. just not really confidence enough to replace them myself (front and rear), if I fail the job it means I will die on the road.. no brake is not a joke.

By the way, at 30000KM the brake oil has been replaced at dealer, now my car is turning to 45000KM, do you think I need to replace the brake oil after replace the pads, anyway the oil only cost 60 bucks for two bottles.

Mate, if he is charging you 2 hours labour to get your pads done, he is ripping you off.
It takes 10min to jack up the car and take the wheels off.
Unbolt one bolt of each caliper.
Swing it up.
Pull out the old pads.
Push back the piston with a G Clamp on the front caliper, and screw in the piston on the rear caliper(I did this with a set of circlip pliers).
Put in the new pads
Swing down the caliper and replace the bolts on the calipers.
Pump the brake pedal and feel for pressure.
Replace the wheels.
Bed in the Pads.

This should all take no more than half an hour if the workshop uses a hoist. A first year apprentice (this is what they will no doubt use) can do this in less than an hour.
If your fluid has been done in the last 12 months, you won't need to do it again with the next 12 months, unless you want to upgrade your fluid.

wangsha17
15-10-2008, 07:15 PM
Mate, if he is charging you 2 hours labour to get your pads done, he is ripping you off.
It takes 10min to jack up the car and take the wheels off.
Unbolt one bolt of each caliper.
Swing it up.
Pull out the old pads.
Push back the piston with a G Clamp on the front caliper, and screw in the piston on the rear caliper(I did this with a set of circlip pliers).
Put in the new pads
Swing down the caliper and replace the bolts on the calipers.
Pump the brake pedal and feel for pressure.
Replace the wheels.
Bed in the Pads.

This should all take no more than half an hour if the workshop uses a hoist. A first year apprentice (this is what they will no doubt use) can do this in less than an hour.
If your fluid has been done in the last 12 months, you won't need to do it again with the next 12 months, unless you want to upgrade your fluid.

Thanks for your suggestion, lucky i saw you reply, otherwise I may just pay him 160 bucks for replying the pads. what i am going to do is find another workshop. Thanks a lot

wangsha17
15-10-2008, 07:24 PM
Mate, if he is charging you 2 hours labour to get your pads done, he is ripping you off.
It takes 10min to jack up the car and take the wheels off.
Unbolt one bolt of each caliper.
Swing it up.
Pull out the old pads.
Push back the piston with a G Clamp on the front caliper, and screw in the piston on the rear caliper(I did this with a set of circlip pliers).
Put in the new pads
Swing down the caliper and replace the bolts on the calipers.
Pump the brake pedal and feel for pressure.
Replace the wheels.
Bed in the Pads.

This should all take no more than half an hour if the workshop uses a hoist. A first year apprentice (this is what they will no doubt use) can do this in less than an hour.
If your fluid has been done in the last 12 months, you won't need to do it again with the next 12 months, unless you want to upgrade your fluid.

Hey Blitzen, do you think I should replace the brake oil as well? will it benefit the brake performance by replacing the oil? or I just keep the original oil for one more year. I do city driving and no track, but I like harder and sensitive brakes. please give me some idea.

Blitzen
15-10-2008, 07:33 PM
I cant honestly say about changing you Brake Fluid, as I still have the standard fluid in mine. A few guys on here have Martini fluid, which I am looking at doing soon, but not sure when. I am going to be giving my brakes a good bleed this weekend though, as I feel they need it, but I have some new Castrol Response Super DOT4 fluid here that I will use.

Eddy
15-10-2008, 08:29 PM
Just bought a set of Ferodo DS2500 for my polo gti, going to install them on friday. I felt the original brakes pads are a bit soft. 309 for front & 170 for rear. how is the deal? is it more expensive than market price? I also have few questions..

do I need to replace the brake oil as well?

does anyone konws what brand is suitable for polo gti? is AP good?

How much normally take for replacing the 4 brake pads? one of workshop ask me 160 bucks, is it reasonable? and the other place near caufield ask me 78 bucks, it's a bit cheap, will their work reliable?

Hoyhoy.
Good price for the pads, I got prices last week, the front for DS2500 at a reputable place was $328.00. Then got DS3000 for $100.00 more.
Fitting Ferodo's, you'll find that there is no low wear indicator wires on the pads (near side (left) front inside), so you'll have to bridge the wiring going to the that location to stop the low brake indicator light from coming on all the time. Other wise its an easy job. (12mm socket).
Don't know about the rear.

wangsha17
15-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Hoyhoy.
Good price for the pads, I got prices last week, the front for DS2500 at a reputable place was $328.00. Then got DS3000 for $100.00 more.
Fitting Ferodo's, you'll find that there is no low wear indicator wires on the pads (near side (left) front inside), so you'll have to bridge the wiring going to the that location to stop the low brake indicator light from coming on all the time. Other wise its an easy job. (12mm socket).
Don't know about the rear.

Rear pads is 170 bucks, the salesman told me the front brake do the main job when braking, so by replacing the rear pads won't have a very big noticeable difference as the front one's. but anyway, rear pads only the half price compare to the fronts, so I decided to buy it.

GTIJNR
15-10-2008, 11:09 PM
Thanks for your suggestion. :)

The pads salesman ask me 160 dollars for labour cost to replace all the pads. and he told me it will takes 2 hours to get it done. It sounds really a hard work to do, coz even them need two hours to finish it.

I really have no experiences for fixing cars, even the SEAT air intake I asked Tim to install it for me. just not really confidence enough to replace them myself (front and rear), if I fail the job it means I will die on the road.. no brake is not a joke.

By the way, at 30000KM the brake oil has been replaced at dealer, now my car is turning to 45000KM, do you think I need to replace the brake oil after replace the pads, anyway the oil only cost 60 bucks for two bottles.


At 45kms, you may need to machine the brake rotors hence the price of $160. I'm sure you making the right choice to let workshop work on your car if you have no experience. Last thing you want to touch is BRAKE even though its may sound easy.

wangsha17
15-10-2008, 11:14 PM
At 45kms, you may need to machine the brake rotors hence the price of $160. I'm sure you making the right choice to let workshop work on your car if you have no experience. Last thing you want to touch is BRAKE even though its may sound easy.

So what you recommend is spend 160 bucks and let the workshop do it for me right? I have called the other brake specilist and they gave me a quote only 78 bucks. why the difference so big? will there reliable? its a pretty small shop anyway. what do you think? thanks

pog
03-08-2010, 11:06 PM
I understand the front pads for the Ferodo DS2500 is FCP1419H. Does anyone know what the rear part number is? Anyone reckon I should buy both front and rears?

seangti
04-08-2010, 08:41 AM
So what you recommend is spend 160 bucks and let the workshop do it for me right? I have called the other brake specilist and they gave me a quote only 78 bucks. why the difference so big? will there reliable? its a pretty small shop anyway. what do you think? thanks

ask each work shop what they are doing for the price. If it's just to install pads, no fluid change or machining of rotors (which wil cost that price each rotor), it is a very straight forward process, so if they're doing the same job, the cheaper of the two should be fine. I'd like to think it'd be quite difficult to cock up one bolt and installing pads. For 2500's are a performance pad so may take a little getting used to cold performance compared to factory pads. If you also drive like a grandpa, you risk glazing pads so don't be shy to give them a hard time every now and then - they'll certainly take a flogging.

pog
06-08-2010, 10:38 PM
I'll put a challenge out there. I've called almost every brake place and I can't seem to find the Ferodo DS2500 FCP1419H pads. I was advised for light track use, you can still use the Ferodo DS Performance. Does anyone have this pad, and if so, your thoughts?

I was also looking at EBC Redstuff. Everyones thoughts please?

noone
07-08-2010, 09:51 AM
I'm running QFM AR1's on the front, they bite well. Much cheaper than the equivalent Ferodo.

The front does get a lot more use than the rear, I would not be too concerned about leaving the back stock, it has not been an issue with my 312 setup.

pog
08-08-2010, 10:07 AM
It was interesting to find out that the polo gti had Ferodo for stock pads. Anyone else notice this?

noone
08-08-2010, 12:17 PM
Stock pads are pretty useless, they are nothing like the performance pads made by the same company. 2 different markets.