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evorobin
02-10-2006, 11:00 AM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/Engineinsitu-1.jpg

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/Noengine-1.jpg

Basically I've always wanted a 16v mk2 so with the help of Gavin we assembled numerous parts and shipped them from the UK. Big thanks to Matt @ Camden GTI who has been a great help supplying parts at no notice. More pics to follow.

Golf Loon
02-10-2006, 01:24 PM
Looking Good Robin
Out with the old and in with the new :)

GoLfMan
02-10-2006, 02:16 PM
good work mate
yet another great VWwatercooled project!

Dub Toffee
02-10-2006, 06:05 PM
good work mate. cant wait to see it comin on. awesome

golf3
03-10-2006, 12:51 AM
I thought you were coming to melbourne in november for phillip island???

Go the 16v!!!

Woot Woot!

evorobin
06-10-2006, 05:57 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/farshagged-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/shagged-1.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/evorobin/cardrop.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/evorobin/shaggedout.jpg

evorobin
06-10-2006, 05:58 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/FirstPowerflex-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/16vin-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/10/16vclose-1.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/evorobin/lunch2.jpg

EndlessMKI
06-10-2006, 09:17 PM
good progress mate. is that a stock 16v?

h100vw
06-10-2006, 09:22 PM
Yeah, std 16V KR engine.

Golf Loon
06-10-2006, 09:33 PM
Love the marigolds lads :)

What fuel system are you using? kjet or digipants?

evorobin
06-10-2006, 11:59 PM
Spent another day on it since they were taken. K-jet.

alex g
07-10-2006, 07:31 AM
thats one way to press stuff out or in

h100vw
07-10-2006, 08:55 PM
No vice, had to leave it in the UK!!!

Got the little monkey running today. Once I got the dissy in the right place, not 180 degrees out, it started easily off the key.

No water leaks but there is gearbox oil dripping from the bell housing which needs to be investigated. Hopefully it's the seal.

Gavin

Golf Loon
04-11-2006, 05:43 PM
Any pics of the engine in Lads? How does it drive?

h100vw
04-11-2006, 07:55 PM
Cant drive it far until we get an alternator Matt!!

Only went up my street and back which isn't a true test. Plus it needs the front aligning.

Gavin

Golf Loon
04-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Cant believe its not there. Posted Wednesday :(

h100vw
04-11-2006, 09:15 PM
Thats 3 of us mate. Can't fail to be here monday. Could be on the street by 6.15pm when I get home from work.
Gavin

DubSteve
05-11-2006, 05:19 PM
Hope it turns out real good for use

evorobin
05-11-2006, 05:37 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/11/Oldstrutanddisc-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/11/weitecin-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/11/G60brakes-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/11/mk2profilewheels-1.jpg

evorobin
05-11-2006, 05:39 PM
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/11/mk2side-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2006/11/mk2back-1.jpg

With Gavin tidying up any electrical gremlins today Gorge rd should be close. Front lip wasn't on in the pic but it will look low!

joshyd-mk2gti
05-11-2006, 05:52 PM
borbets robin???

looking good. must be close now.

EndlessMKI
05-11-2006, 06:12 PM
Ok, NOW your car looks hot.........

Tell us how the weitecs go mate..........still deciding with XS. I hear they can have a harsh ride.

Good stuff.........

el_foolio
05-11-2006, 07:23 PM
awesome dude! looks the business now.

evorobin
05-11-2006, 07:28 PM
It's not finished I've got more parts just need to refill the warchest...Taking a break from RS. The 16 x 7.5 Borbet A's have 205/40/16 treads and the ride with the coilovers is actually good. I'll reserve judgement until the allignment is done and I have attacked the hills. Looks like Wednesday at this stage, taking the scenic route to work!

Satanstoenail
06-11-2006, 05:48 PM
Looks excellent. :cool:

EndlessMKI
06-11-2006, 06:28 PM
wow 7.5" and 16" is da bomb........enjoy!!!

86gti
15-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Heya! thats looking real good.
See you will be running K-jet. CIS or CISE? (KE jet.)
if you running K-Jet, would that mean a 16v would be ok to drop in my mk2 with the fuel system im running now.
seen a few pics of the 16v's with Mech inj, but cant make out if it cis or cise.:?

static1800
15-03-2007, 10:31 PM
you could drop a KR 16v in without to many troubles, what fuel system are you running atm?

86gti
15-03-2007, 10:39 PM
you could drop a KR 16v in without to many troubles, what fuel system are you running atm?

Running K-Jet in it at the moment, with a 2E 8v

Golf Loon
16-03-2007, 08:57 AM
KR is designed to run kjet. Yours would be an easy conversion Benny ;)

86gti
16-03-2007, 05:54 PM
KR is designed to run kjet. Yours would be an easy conversion Benny ;)


ohhhhhh, im certainly going to look into that!:D
would it be a noticable gain over the 2E?

static1800
16-03-2007, 05:58 PM
16v's have more top end then an 8v, but down low lack compared to the 8v engines. The advantages over a stock 8v kjet engine would be a bit i reckon, you can get an 8v going hard though, thats what i'm doing ;)

h100vw
16-03-2007, 07:21 PM
16v's have more top end then an 8v, but down low lack compared to the 8v engines. The advantages over a stock 8v kjet engine would be a bit i reckon, you can get an 8v going hard though, thats what i'm doing ;)

The 16v has more torque and power everywhere over an 8V. The delivery is different which makes it seem slower. You get 140 hp nearly in a completely standard engine. A fair but of messing to get the same out of an 8valve. Headers and a decent exhaust should get you close to 150 if you get it all set up right.

A very straight forward conversion in a car that's already Kjet. Unlike dropping one into a digifant car.

Gavin

evorobin
16-03-2007, 07:38 PM
http://http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/evorobin/Profielshot.jpg

Yeah 16v feels slower down low but isn't. Trouble is you always end up wringing it out and using more fuel :grin:

static1800
16-03-2007, 07:45 PM
I've considered it, but like you said its a pain with a digi engine. If i was going to go to the trouble of a 16v conversion i would go abf, but until then i will work the sh%t out of my 8v engine :D

86gti
16-03-2007, 08:42 PM
any idea what HP figures you get from the 16v with a good exhaust and a set of mild cams?

evorobin
18-03-2007, 09:08 PM
I think the 16v is peaky enough and wouldn't bother putting wild cams in. For the sake of getting another 20hp then a port and polish would be nice but I've got a 2.25 exhaust and it hasn't realised much power imo.

blackgti1.8
20-03-2007, 08:53 PM
I think the 16v is peaky enough and wouldn't bother putting wild cams in. For the sake of getting another 20hp then a port and polish would be nice but I've got a 2.25 exhaust and it hasn't realised much power imo.

You can make even an 8V peaky enough with a decent cam and a good port and polish:)
Especially if you want to avoid hassles with changed engine numbers, a well-built 8V is not that much short a decent 16v from what I've heard.
Having said that, a stock 16v might be a decent improvement over a stock 8v, where the percentage difference is greater....

Golf Loon
20-03-2007, 09:16 PM
Your 8v is probably giving 115 horses if you are lucky. 16v kr will hook up to your injection system and plug straight in and will give 139 out of the box :) Yours is one of the few Mk2s that would be an easy 16v kjey conversion Ben :)

86gti
20-03-2007, 10:17 PM
Your 8v is probably giving 115 horses if you are lucky. 16v kr will hook up to your injection system and plug straight in and will give 139 out of the box :) Yours is one of the few Mk2s that would be an easy 16v kjey conversion Ben :)

Im going to look further into this around tax time :-) ....
maybe put my 2E in the mk1 with twin carbs. :?

static1800
23-03-2007, 08:59 PM
I'm actually seriously looking into this also, except i'm running digi atm, but in the light of the turbo 16v mk1 rocco posted running wolf3d standalone i had an idea.. I have a wolf 3d sitting at home and loon has an engine :D

Need to seriously look into it all, oh btw Loon i need to grab the loom out of my mk1 from ya, hope you've still got it :)

Golf Loon
23-03-2007, 09:08 PM
Yeah thats the way Static. You cant get a 1991 car engineered for kjet, but a KR motor with aftermarket EFI and you are in.
THere are some nice fuel rails you can get in the US for US$100.

static1800
23-03-2007, 09:11 PM
the wiring up is scaring me off a bit, figure i may as well put my wolf to use, it's that or i will sell it.

static1800
28-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Decided i'm going to do it, as soon as nationals are done with i am going to start sourcing parts and getting adequate funds for all of it. Going to be KR running wolf 3D ecu, so should go like a cut snake :)