2.0 Tdi Oil

[TDI DSG]

Anyone know what the dealers are using for these new engines ? Castrol have TXT50501 and Valvoline have Durablend Deisel both of which meet the VW 50501 spec. Do Oz dealers use either of these or are there other oils available locally that meet the VW spec. Mobil dont appear to from their website. I'd like to buy some to do a oil changes myself between the mandatory 15K intervals. Thuis is as much for convenience as it is for the cost saving of not getting the dealer to do it.

[brackie]

Like you I'm itching to get a spanner on the TDI, however I'm resisting the temptation to do it and change the oil and filters @5000km. I'm going to let the authorised workshop do it even though it's 2500km before the recommended first service. I have a choice between taking it back to Launceston to the dealership I bought it from and giving it to a local guy (Don Hall in Devonport). The local guy wins. I know him, trust him and like me he's a small businessman trying to make his way in the world. Wins hands down even though he'll have to buy the synthetic oil mix from the dealer that sold me the car :???:

[gtimk5]

I use Fuchs Titan Super GTO 10W30 MC which is has the 50501 numbers that VW specify. VW say that the first lot of oil should stay there for 15,000 kms as it is a running in oil. I have been changing oil some some customers golfs at 7,500 kms. TDIs can use a fair bit of oil during the running in period so keep an eye on the level :)

[brackie]

My understanding is that the factory oil fill is a semi-synthetic that allows the rings to bed in (using a fully synthetic oil would at best slow this but may even enhance glazing).

The first oil change for the 2.0 TDI is officially 7500km. Being an old fashioned sort of guy I prefer 5000km and it just shows how much oils and engines have changed when you remember the days when 1000 miles was the running in period for most cars and in this time many of them literally drank it!

My TDI has used zero oil since I got it. This worries me a little as I would have expected some oil consumption especially when the engine was brand new. I keep on referring to it as "still tight", but in reality it's all relative and it hasn't changed much in the 2900km it has done. Does anybody know whether and for how long VW bench test or in any other way run the engines before delivery?

[Seano]

The 2.5 TDi in my T4 has the same oil requirement as the 2.0 by the sound of it. And after 90,000km here is what I've learned. Basically it matters very little whether you use a 50501 coded oil as long as you use the right viscosity oil. After a certain amount of trial and error I have settled on BP Vanellus 10W-30 when I do the changes myself. Of the three VW dealers that the DOKA has seen all have used different oils and viscosities and to my knowledge none have the 50501 numbers.....first dealer used Castrol Magnatec 10W-30, another first used Titan 20W-40 but now uses 5W-40 and the third used Fuchs 10W-40........

........but does 50501 matter? Nope. This spec is only really used if you intend to take advantage of the Long Service Interval which for some VW (like my T4) can (apparently) be stretched out to 40,000km. If you intend to change out your oil every 5 to 10 thousand kays then any good quality 10W-30 will be fine. And at those intervals it is also immaterial if the oil is mineral, synthetic or a shandy.

As for oil consumption, these modern TDi don't seem to chew much oil at all. My previous diesel (200Tdi Landrover) tended to take roughly 30% over 5,000km but this VW motor is a really light sipper by comparison. It is very hard to notice the consumption over 5,000km at all.

[TDI DSG]

Your experience with VW dealers is interesting Sean, however it does not suprise me at all. I would imagine that these tdi engines would be big $$$ to repair and as such I would like to provide the best protection possible for it. According to my service booklet the first service is at 15K and is basically just an oil change and a check over things but still $300+ apparently because of the cost of the "special oil". I did wonder if they actually use it and from Seans comments obviously some dont, Freds tdi forum in the US also indicates this happens a lot. I dont beleive everything I read - but unless you supply the oil and see it go in you will never know. The more important question is how important it is to use the correct spec oil ? After making some enquiries as to the availability of the right spec oil to the general public I have been told that there is a new spec VW507.01 for these engines.

[ontarv]

castrol rep told me that it was a full
syn as they supplied it for vw in oz.
dealers have a mandatory $100 hour
labour charge by vw as well

[jets]

The 2.5 TDi in my T4 has the same oil requirement as the 2.0 by the sound of it. And after 90,000km here is what I've learned. Basically it matters very little whether you use a 50501 coded oil as long as you use the right viscosity oil. After a certain amount of trial and error I have settled on BP Vanellus 10W-30 when I do the changes myself. Of the three VW dealers that the DOKA has seen all have used different oils and viscosities and to my knowledge none have the 50501 numbers.....first dealer used Castrol Magnatec 10W-30, another first used Titan 20W-40 but now uses 5W-40 and the third used Fuchs 10W-40........

........but does 50501 matter? Nope.

Seano The injection system on the Golf 2.0 TDI is the unit injection type & different from the T4 engines which are more conventional.
It is absolutely critical to use the correct spec. oil in the Golf engines.
If you read the TDI CLUB forums there is lots of talk about this.
If your 'Pressure Unit" motor suffers any wear in the roller rocker arm area
during warranty VW will wipe there hands of you.

Rob

[jets]

The first oil change for the 2.0 TDI is officially 7500km.

My Golf 2.0 book says 15000km unless you are using high sulpher fuel or under severe driving conditions.
All the fuel now supplied should be low sulpher & because I live in the Adelaide Hills I consider my conditions normal [no short runs]
When I bought my Golf, 3 years free service was included.
At 12 months my car will have only travelled around 8 or 9ks anyway[I have 3 cars registered] & therefore have a shorter change period.

Rob

[brackie]

Yes, the book says 15,000km except if using high S diesel or in severe conditions. The service interval display and the sticker on the windscreen of my car say 7500km.

[gtimk5]

Depends on who does the pre delivery down here I think. My sticker had 7,500 but a couple of others here had 15,000. There seems to be no consistancy with all the late golfs or Polos that I have seen service sticker wise. :?

[brackie]

Could it be Jackson's drumming up business? Andrew, what's your opinion on service intervals? 5000km, 7500km or 15000km? :???:

[gtimk5]

I am doing my car every 7.500 kms. I just did the 15,000 km service last week, 2nd service. I did my mk4 every 7,500 too.
If a customer wants to go every 15,000 kms then thats fine by me. I do a 15,000 km service every 8 weeks on a 1.9 TDI that travels to Savage River every week from Huonville. That car is due for a cambelt change next service already! Thats the only negative, I think!
The only downside to a 7,500 km service is that it fills the service book up too quickly!!!!
I had a 2.0 TDI the other week that had very low oil at 7,000 kms. AThe oil light was coming on because it was so low. That is a common probklem during the early periods of some TDIs. The car was bought new in february. I have heard that they settle in ok though. :)

[GoLfMan]

i need a name of a good oil quick (cos i wanna buy somem today)!!!! our TDI needs a top up and todays the day, whats a good oil to use? cheers :)

[jets]

Depends on who does the pre delivery down here I think. My sticker had 7,500 but a couple of others here had 15,000. There seems to be no consistancy with all the late golfs or Polos that I have seen service sticker wise. :?

Yes I forgot to say in my earlier post that my sticker says 15000km.

[jets]

i need a name of a good oil quick (cos i wanna buy somem today)!!!! our TDI needs a top up and todays the day, whats a good oil to use? cheers :)

When I inquired around 9 months ago the only oil I could buy was Castrol something from the VW parts dept. in 1 litre containers[you can imagine the price] the only other size from Castrol was a 200litre drum.
I am sure that by now things would be different, going by the no of diesel golfs on the road.
I spoke to the service manager at my dealership & he said they use mobil that meets the spec. & if I bought in a container they would sell me some
to top up if needed. This might be the way to go for you too until the oil becomes more readily available in say 4/5 litre containers.

Rob http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=94811

[Seano]

Caltex Havoline Synthetic 5W-40 http://www.caltex.com.au/products_oil_detail.asp?id=323 Volkswagen, 502.00 and 505.00 (SAE 5W-40)

TITAN SUPERSYN SL LONG LIFE PLUS 0W30 http://www.fuchs.com.au/html/passenger_car_engine_oil.html A full synthetic low viscosity SAE 0W30 engine oil, specifically formulated to meet the requirements and demands of late generation VW and AUDI vehicles requiring specification VW 503 00, VW 506 00 & 506 01.

Castrol stuff is still a dealership only product....but you can use the 5W-40 Magnatec if you are inclined.

If thee were me then I'd go for the Titan stuff.....it is German after all.

[Macca]

My car has only done 1700km. I am interested in this debate about oil but also when to change it. I would think more often is better but my dealer's service department said leave the original oil in for 15,000 because it is special "running in" oil and if I changed it too soon it might not wear in properly. :confused:

cheers Macca

[GoLfMan]

it wont damage the engine if i top it up with the Caltex or Titan oils will it? my engine has done nearly 3000km

[Seano]

Nope..............well, highly unlikely!

[GoLfMan]

sweet then ill get onto it :)

[TDI DSG]

My dealer tells me that they are using an imported castrol product not available through australian dist - I think it was txt3 ? He also says the car comes from the factory with the "running in oil" that should be left in untill at least 5000 klm. My 2.0 has 2700 klm's up with no oil usage at all yet - so I have a while to decide if to change the oil or not - and what to use if I do !

[jets]

Caltex Havoline Synthetic 5W-40 http://www.caltex.com.au/products_oil_detail.asp?id=323 Volkswagen, 502.00 and 505.00 (SAE 5W-40)

TITAN SUPERSYN SL LONG LIFE PLUS 0W30 http://www.fuchs.com.au/html/passenger_car_engine_oil.html A full synthetic low viscosity SAE 0W30 engine oil, specifically formulated to meet the requirements and demands of late generation VW and AUDI vehicles requiring specification VW 503 00, VW 506 00 & 506 01.

Another oil to add to this list is Motul 4100 turbolight 'Technosynthese Synthetic' SAE 10W-40 --- Car manufacturers approvals VW 501 01 / 500 00 / 505 00, M.B etc. This is a euro oil made in France & was told a premium product.
Who knows if that is true.
It is sold in S.A. by Autobarn ---$44.95 for 5 litres.

Rob

[TDI DSG]

After speaking to my dealer's service dept again I was given a different story as to the brand and spec of the oil they use in the current TDI engines - this is a real concern as there are not a lot of VW dealers around and the ones that are should know details like this backwards - isnt that why they try to convince us to go with overpriced dealer servicing ? Asked about a 7500 klm oil and filter change - approx $180 - one filter and less than 4 ltrs of oil. I have not performed an oil change on a TDI but surely it couldnt take more than half an hour ?
Do VW honour the warranty if you dont use a dealer servicing ?

[aprr32]

After a lot of research with my Fuchs rep, each new VW engine needs a special oil. The direct injection ( petrol and dsl) need oil that doesn't leave deposits on the injectors and also must meet VW specs if your is serviced by an independant workshop.We carry 6 different oils (1 mineral and 5 synthetic) to cover all the VW and Audi cars that we service and have never had a car knocked back for any kind of warranty work by the dealers.Just make sure that the proper spec oil is used (whatever brand) and there should be no problems.

[brackie]

Thanks for the qualified answer, Peter... But the question remains:

If the sump is filled with "running in oil" at the factory, and the car is using ULSD and operating in average or normal conditions, do we leave it in until 15,000km or change it to a different oil at 7,500km?

[syncro]

Look here;

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~avdw/pdf/VW%20_Engine_Oils.pdf

[flightlessbird]

The recomendation from VW Australia is for the first service to be carried out at 15000 km or 12 months which ever occurs first!

[GoLfMan]

just topped up the polo with 5W-40 Shell Oil :)

[Rod_H]

Will pick up my New Comfortline 2.0 TDi tomorrow. And have been doing some home work on Oil's for the motor...
found this http://www.penrite.com.au/html/s02_article/article_view.asp?id=107&nav_cat_id=127&nav_top_id=55&dsb=581

Looks to be meet the specs of 505.01/505.00/506.00/506.01 which is right for the TDi's long life oil's.
Repco down the road from work sell it in 10 Lt drums.

Hope this maybe off some use, to you good people...
:D
Edited added more spec's.

[brackie]

Ta, Rod. It'll be 2.5 years before I will be allowed to change the oil in my TDI (warranty) but nice to know for topping up.

[shogun2]

I'm just about to pick up 10 litres, so if anyone in Adelaide needs some, contact me, cause there's no way I can see me using 10 litres (I hope).

Rod

[syncro]

Ta, Rod. It'll be 2.5 years before I will be allowed to change the oil in my TDI (warranty) but nice to know for topping up.

Aren't you supposed to change the oil with the annual service?

[brackie]

Now here's the paradox. If it's true that the first fill of oil is "running in" oil, then surely it should stay in until the kms get high enough to replace it with fully synthetic. If it's there because it's needed until the engine is bedded enough to change oils, then surely the time is irrelevant.

[Seano]

From the ErWin site on the Volkswagen.de site https://erwin.volkswagen.de/index.html

Here's the listing of VW approved 50300/50600 oils.

Firma, Bezeichnung, SAE-Klasse, VW-Norm(en).
Castrol, Castrol SLX Professional Longtec VW Longlife II, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600/50601.
Elf, Elf Evolution CRV, SAE10W-30, 50300/50600/50601.
Fuchs, Fuchs TITAN Supersyn SL PCX, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Fuchs, Labo Carat, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Mobil, Mobil SHC Formula LD, SAE10W-30, 50300/50600/50601.
Modrica, Optima, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
MOL, MOL Dynamic Gold, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
SRS Schmierstoff, WVeinrteriresbh all ViVA 1 SLV, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Statoil, Statoil LazerWay LL 503-506, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Total, Gulf Energy Saving, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600/50601.

Obviously they are Euro oils but you get the picture. There are a number of other oil standard listings on the site as well. You just have to register (free) to see the listing. It is also the source for all VW workshop manuals via subscription but be warned it can be expensive but it is truly extensive.

[Rod_H]

The 2.0 TDi has started to use a bit of oil after 3000k's.
Picked up some Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife Plus 0w30 at bursons auto parts.
They had to order it in, there part number is 3279004 List 91.05 plus GST.
It does VW503.00 506.00 506.01 According to a few posts on TDiClud forums
506.01 is the newer spec oil the covers 505.01 and the new long life 506.01 spec's.
It's an Imported oil Made in the EU according to the bottle.

Rod...

[gldgti]

just topped up the polo with 5W-40 Shell Oil :)


i dont like shell oil... just my opinion but i've seen peoples cars burn lots of it and wear badly..

[vwjetta]

Just picked up new Jetta. Have same oil requirements question. Dealer mentioned to keep eye on oil level especially in first 5000km. Question - since I needed to keep an eye on it and if I found myself needing it, what spec oil do I put in it at the service station??? Manual states VW507.00. Phoned Mobil and actually got a very helpful person! Mobil '1' 5W-40 = VW505.00 and VW506.00 spec (after investigation this is actually on the 5litre packaging on Mobil oil found at SuperCheap Auto.) Mobil '1 ESP' 5W-30 = VW507.00 spec especially for 2.0 Tdi vechicles fitted with particulate filter (which acording to Mobil information and the dealer all '07 spec Jetta vechicles are.) Mobil state that this oil is only in the barrel until next week when it will be moved to 20litre containers. Mobil tells me this oil will become more comercially available by the end of the year. These 20litre containers will be sent out next week and Mobil asked for a call back in a couple of weeks time to asked where these have been sent to where of which I will be able purchase.

Not a bad idea to bottle up in 1litre containers and sell to members?

I hope this has helped. :)

[brackie]

Firstly, congrats on the new Jetta :)

Thanks for the news and tips on oil. My TDI hasn't used enough oil to warrant a top up and has done 7500km. It goes for the first service next week and will have an oil change. I was warned about oil use before rings bedded in (not by the dealer but by gtimk5 ;) ) so I've watched it carefully and I guess to a certain extent this validates my running in techniques for a diesel engine.

It's a pity that Mobil aren't continuing with the 5L packs as for most of us this would be the way to go. I like the idea of a group buy of a 20L drum but I fear that postage costs would negate the price advantage.

[jets]

Brackie, please let us know how your first service goes. If you think of it ask what oil & spec they are using.

[brackie]

It happens on Thurs 22nd. I chose John Hall who is a local guy and has a registered VAG service centre. Don't care if he's cheaper or more expensive than the "big end of town" 'cos I'll always support the small guy... As long as he knows what he's doing ;)

[brackie]

Yeah.. I posted exactly the same article form TDI club and got some interesting replies.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=1236

I used a mixture of the TDI post's recommendations, my own experience and common sense. I've never overworked the engine until the oil achieved full operating temp and then made sure I gave it a balance of hard pulling and hard engine braking going down hills. I absolutely avoided constant engine speeds, often changing up and down the 'box while travelling at a constant road speed. Because diesels are combustion/ignition engines, well bedded rings and avoiding cylinder wall glazing are crucial to long engine life. My TDI is very young at 7500km and I'm still observing running in procedures. I probably will be for some time yet ;)

[jets]

My dealer uses mobil. I asked the service adviser what grade of oil do they use. He pulled out his little black book & said Mobil 1. I replied that I didn't think it complied. He said if it didn't they wouldn't be using it.
I was driving past another day & I thought I would ask someone in the service bay. Well they were all at lunch so being cheeky I walked in & read the marking on the 200ltr drum. It read mobil ESP. What a relief. I had my car serviced recently & was worried that they had used the wrong oil.
Now the service adviser is new with no previous VW experience I am told. I remember talking to the previous guy & he had told me that Mobil 1 was OK to use just to top up to get you through to the next service.
Now the new guy is quoting mobil 1 as the oil to use for a full oil change.
From my experience it's not too hard to see what will happen to these engines if the authorized dealer can't quote the correct oil.
I am glad I bought a new TDI where I can make sure the correct oil goes in.

[Rod_H]

To many numptys working in dealerships, dispensing information, they know nothing about.
If they only read there bulletins, and put a little pride in there work/job!!!!!!!!
we would all be better off.

[briseos]

My MY05 Golf V TDi has showed all the classic signs
- oil light came on at 7500kms - took it to nearest dealer (was on road trip) and they topped it up for free on the spot with the same as original oil
- oil light came on again at 30000kms - again took it to dealer (again on road trip) and they again topped up for free on the spot
- now almost due for 45000km service - never seen the oil light since 30000

I must say that the engine continues to improve more and more as the kms clock up - it is now soooooo loose and free-running - just feels better and better - drives incredibly well when pushed hard and uses hardly any fuel

Recent very enthusiastic burn through the sunshine coast hinterland averaged over 100kmh and 6.6l/100k on the clock but actually 6.25 at the pump..... unbelievable!!! and even impressed re-mapped GTi driver mate in handling (sportline) and speed and then knocked his jocks off when we did a comparative re-fill (he needed to, I was still close to 3.4 full:cool: )

[Transporter]

I'm just about to pick up 10 litres, so if anyone in Adelaide needs some, contact me, cause there's no way I can see me using 10 litres (I hope).

Rod

To all people interested in TDi PD engine oils discussion.

Please note, that some posts here refer to "erwin manual" for which oils are factory approved. I think it is important to be sure that the oil you buy from your local parts store is VW factory approved and not just recommended by the brand which is on the container you buy oil in.

I'm not quaite sure that "Penrite HPR5 Diesel" for example is approved by VW factory.
Please note: "Recommended for VW 506.01".
Q. By Whom?
A. Penrite.

I can see a problem there if your engine fail within the warranty period.

I buy Castrol TXT Longlife 2 from the dealer and keep the invoice.

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.

My daugther & her girl friend, both recently purchased mkv TDI's in black, now the problem is that both are using oil at a fare rate. Today my daughter was told by the service manager to expect to use 1lit./ 1000km. To me this doesn't sound right.

[brackie]

OK I moved this thread to the new fuels and lubricants forum.

My TDI used no oil right up to the 7500km service. At first this worried me, as I know from past experience that new or recon motors use oil until the oils rings bed in and I had read that I should expect > normal oil consumption when this motor is young. Upon reflection however, this verifies the running in technique that I used. If I had "got it wrong" I would expect to see some oil consumption. At 11,000km it's way too early to make any statement about compression, however I don't believe that this will be a problem in years to come. I reckon that taking it easy until the oil gets hot, hard pulling and hard deceleration (occasionally but not all of the time) and not sustaining the same revs for any period of time gives the rings their best chance to bed in. Check in with me in 5 or 6 years time and we'll see if this is right (if I'm still alive or able to drive at the time :( )

[DutchAussie]

I have now done 6700 Km in our 2007 VW Caddy and used no oil!

I am running in the engine as suggested by Brackie.

Regards,

Arie

[acdcfan]

When I sent an e-mail to VW Australia asking which oil is suitable for topping up purposes they stated that fully synthetic oil 0W-30 or 5W-30 is fine but not for servicing.
For servicing you must use 507.00 ( or 507.01) or 506.01 Castrol oil.

attached is VW reponse

response 1

Thank you for contacting us through the Volkswagen Australia Website, we appreciate it.

In response to your email enquiry, I can advise you that the correct engine oil for vehicle is Volkswagen 504.00/501.01. Any oil used in the engine therefore must meet with these specifications. Depending on the oil manufacturer as to which one of their oils meet this specification the oil may be either 0w-30 or 5w-30 and must be fully synthetic. The engine oil for use in this vehicle is the same or similar to that as used in some of our high performance petrol engines and as such Diesel engine oil may not be suitable. I would suggest contacting the individual engine oil manufacturers to ascertain which of their oils they recommend to use to meet this specification. Alternatively your dealership would be able to assist you further with the purchasing of engine oil.

reponse 2 after I mentioned that my Golf is diesel

The correct oil viscosity of the 2.0L Tdi golf is 5W30. Please note we supply this grade of oil purely for the convenience of the customer in the case that the VW oil is unable to be obtained. If you are replacing the oil then it must be replaced with the genuine oil only. If it is found that any component has failed due to the incorrect oil being used that part may not be covered under the vehicles warranty .



Regards

Adam


what I would like to know is where Mobil oil comes into it?

[Transporter]

When I sent an e-mail to VW Australia asking which oil is suitable for topping up purposes they stated that fully synthetic oil 0W-30 or 5W-30 is fine but not for servicing.
For servicing you must use 507.00 ( or 507.01) or 506.01 Castrol oil.

attached is VW reponse

response 1

Thank you for contacting us through the Volkswagen Australia Website, we appreciate it.

In response to your email enquiry, I can advise you that the correct engine oil for vehicle is Volkswagen 504.00/501.01. Any oil used in the engine therefore must meet with these specifications. Depending on the oil manufacturer as to which one of their oils meet this specification the oil may be either 0w-30 or 5w-30 and must be fully synthetic. The engine oil for use in this vehicle is the same or similar to that as used in some of our high performance petrol engines and as such Diesel engine oil may not be suitable. I would suggest contacting the individual engine oil manufacturers to ascertain which of their oils they recommend to use to meet this specification. Alternatively your dealership would be able to assist you further with the purchasing of engine oil.

reponse 2 after I mentioned that my Golf is diesel

The correct oil viscosity of the 2.0L Tdi golf is 5W30. Please note we supply this grade of oil purely for the convenience of the customer in the case that the VW oil is unable to be obtained. If you are replacing the oil then it must be replaced with the genuine oil only. If it is found that any component has failed due to the incorrect oil being used that part may not be covered under the vehicles warranty .



Regards

Adam


what I would like to know is where Mobil oil comes into it?

506.01 is 0w-30 SLX LongLife2 and you can buy it from the dealer. To me it doesn't matter how much it cost because if you don't use correct oil your engine valve train will eventualy fail, maybe it will be at 80,000km or sooner and than the difference betveen right and wrong oil will be payed many times over. There is a lot of writing at tdi.com forum about it. To me it is not worth the risk.

[GermanwithaVdub]

eddy maybe that figure got squewed along the way somehow? could it have possibly been 1L/10000kms? i have an 07 2.0 tdi that admittedly i drive rather hard but it used the oil down to empty and had the light on at 7000kms. the dealer said this might happen. i would think after around 10000kms the oil useage levels might normalise out?

[acdcfan]

506.01 is 0w-30 SLX LongLife2 and you can buy it from the dealer. To me it doesn't matter how much it cost because if you don't use correct oil your engine valve train will eventualy fail, maybe it will be at 80,000km or sooner and than the difference betveen right and wrong oil will be payed many times over. There is a lot of writing at tdi.com forum about it. To me it is not worth the risk.

I agree. I have put around 300ml since I bought it. Done around 8000km.
I am not going to service my car with non specified oil.... diesel engines cost a lot to fix.

[Spoddy]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/12/VWDieselOil-1.jpg

[OilBurna]

as stated and mine has it hand written on the sticke ron the windscreen first service 7500km then 15,000 after that.

[DutchAussie]

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2007/12/VWDieselOil-1.jpg

Spoddy,

which VW Specification oil is recommended in your service booklet?

[OilBurna]

will check in my handbook also. Had to have mine topped up recently after approx 7,400kms. Dealer topped it up for free saw the bottle it was exactly the same as above, but 5w-30?