Penrite Oil

[gerhard]

For those of us that like Penrite oils, there is good news.

A VW Approved (longlife) oil is Enviro+ 5W-30

A suitable oil (non-longlife, non-approved) oil is HPR 5

The HPR 5 is not too expensive, I use it in my daughter's Swift, and in the Sirion GTVi.

Don't know the price of the Enviro+, it's fairly new to the market. But it's VW APPROVED for longlife applications, so can be used in all the newish VWs currently available in AU. Hopefully someone has seen it and can post some pricing.

See attached files for the approval letter and the specs for each oil.

Both should be readily available from the usual Repco, Autobarn, etc. outlets.

[Jmac]

Most of the turbo charged stuff and high performance stuff i use HPR5 mate , good oil IMO and reasonably priced. Penrite doing some good things, i also use the BMV for the 5hp ZF trannies too, great alternative and cost effective.
JMac:)

[MattyT]

I have penrite SIN 15 (15w-40) in my vr6, i do brutal things to it and it doesnt care. Engine rev's happly to redline too :biggrin:

The best thing IMHO about penrite is that it's australian ,woo!

[gerhard]

I have penrite SIN 15 (15w-40) in my vr6, i do brutal things to it and it doesnt care. Engine rev's happly to redline too :biggrin:

The best thing IMHO about penrite is that it's australian ,woo!

Too true - that's one of the reasons why I like it, the other is that it's damn good oil! I also use HPR10 in my Jackaroo 3.5V6, as well as the HPR5 as mentioned before..

You could use HPR 10 in yours if you wanted to save a few pennies :) The SIN 15 meets VW500 spec.

"Penrite HPR 10 meets the performance requirements of:
API SM/CF ACEA A3/B4 (Europe)
Chrysler MS-6395 Porsche
Renault GM 9986126
Rover RES.22.OL.22 BMW
VW500.00/502.00/505.00 Holden HN 2100
Ford WSE-M2C910A/905A3 Ford M2C153F/G
Mercedes Benz 229.1 Peugeot PSA E-02
Fiat-Lancia-Alfa Romeo VW 503.00, 501.01"

[runamuk]

I just use the HPR10 in my VR6.... loves it :)


I have penrite SIN 15 (15w-40) in my vr6, i do brutal things to it and it doesnt care. Engine rev's happly to redline too :biggrin:

The best thing IMHO about penrite is that it's australian ,woo!

[brad]

For those of us that like Penrite oils, there is good news.

A VW Approved (longlife) oil is Enviro 5W-40

Thanks for the heads up.

I think you mean Enviro+ 5w30 (according to the letter from VW)

PHOARR! 1340Euro for certification. That's $2300 !! (and it expires in 2010)

[gerhard]

Thanks for the heads up.

I think you mean Enviro+ 5w30 (according to the letter from VW)

PHOARR! 1340Euro for certification. That's $2300 !! (and it expires in 2010)

Oops - yes, sorry - typo late at night. Definately 5W-30 not 5W-40.

And you can see why not all oil manufacturers seek formal approval - imagine paying those bucks to VW, GM, BMW, Merc, etc, etc for every different oil :eek:

[K_Man]

+1 for Penrite oil, started using it with my first car (R31 skyline) and have never looked back.

[Rebuild]

just bought 10L of HPR Diesel 5 recently for the T5 topups, and the next full oil change.
Not listed on the actual drum but has 506.01 compatibilty according to the Penrite website.

[The_Hawk]

How much is the HPR10?

I have switched from a fully synthetic Fuchs 10w40 which seems to burn off a little quickly in the VR6 to Castrol GTX2 which is cheap at round $25/5L and the engine seems to love it.

[gerhard]

How much is the HPR10?

I have switched from a fully synthetic Fuchs 10w40 which seems to burn off a little quickly in the VR6 to Castrol GTX2 which is cheap at round $25/5L and the engine seems to love it.

I can't find a tech spec sheet for this oil on the Castrol web site ?!? but there are 2 for the GTX3. The GTX3 15W-50 meets VW501/505, but the GTX3 10W-30 does not meet any VW spec at all. It may be wrong to assume GTX 2 doesn't meet VW anything, but when they don't tell you, you have to assume that's the case.

At 20W-50 the GTX2 seems to me to be a bit high in the viscosity, unless your engine is very worn . I have used Magnatec in my Jackaroo and it burned lots of oil and rattled more when cold, but I get none of those issues with HPR10 :)

HPR10 is a bit dearer than the GTX2, you should be able to get it for $35 or less (Repco usually has an across the board sale in January, it's a good time to stock up on this sort of stuff :) )

[D3bb4]

gtx2 is 20w50 and mineral oil - i doubt it'd recommended. Usually use with old falcons and such, which were designed for thicker oils. Sometimes going from something to thick to a thinner and better oil makes cars run smoother. Improves fuel economy also.

I'm using fuchs 10w40 and happy with it. Might try something else next time. Was thinking shell helix ultra 5w40... price has shot up almost $10 to bout $57 now though!!!!!!!

[The_Hawk]

I found teh Fuchs to be a little thin for the VR6's hot engine. Remember that the specs are written for a climate that goes much lower than here in Australia.

[MattyT]

I used to run fuchs 10w30 (supertitan GTO or whatever they call it) too. The engine ran fine, didnt eat or burn any of it but it didnt rev anything like it does now with the penrite.

All hail the Penrite!

[Transporter]

just bought 10L of HPR Diesel 5 recently for the T5 topups, and the next full oil change.
Not listed on the actual drum but has 506.01 compatibilty according to the Penrite website.

No it has not.
It must be HPR Enviro + SAE 5W-30.
Meets doesn't mean approved.

[Rebuild]

the enviro+ is for T5's with DPF as far as i can tell(ie 507.00 equivalent) which my T5 is not.

I am still going to use it regardless.
Oil should not be that critical.

[Transporter]

Rebuild.

Oil is very critical in TDi engine.
However there could be some oils which could pass VW506.01 if submited for testing but we don't know that for sure that's why you should stick with approved oil only.
You could end up with worn out valve train components, if you use anything else than VW506.01 approved oil in yours before 2006 T5 R5 engine.
It is your choice what oil you use. You will have nobody else to blame for engine failure and it will be very expensive repair.

[Jmac]

Yeha just signed up with Penrite today, have all the specs etc you need.
Cheers
Jmac

[Jmac]

To add to the above , the service i have experienced already is second to none, they even offer me a reasonable rate for sample testing:banana:, i will use the Enviro over the SLX now, ive read the official statement from VGA giving the thumbs up for the Enviro for the diesel and they only recommend the Enviro for the FSi too. Audi and Dub have been famous for being very strict, which is cool with me. HPR5 covers a huge range like the Polo Gti, which im happy about as ive been using it long enough with zero complaints.
Anyway if you have any Penrite queries i can have them answered
Cheers
Jmac:cool:

[gregozedobe]

Anyway if you have any Penrite queries i can have them answered

Thanks. I've got one:

Do Penrite have an oil that is approved by VW for both 504/507 AND 506.01 ? This would be suitable for all modern VWs, even the early R5 engines in T5s and Touaregs that Transporter mentioned above.

[phaeton]

Thanks. I've got one:

Do Penrite have an oil that is approved by VW for both 504/507 AND 506.01 ? This would be suitable for all modern VWs, even the early R5 engines in T5s and Touaregs that Transporter mentioned above.

Enviro 5W30 has approval


Approved oil for Volkswagen/Audi diesel engines and direct injection petrol engines calling for Longlife III Type (VW 504.00/507.00 approved) engine oils.
SAE 5W-30, VW 504.00/507.00 ACEA A3/B4/C3

We use Penrite at work and have had no probs.

I used another brand name in my Karmann and it played up :(

No probs with Penrite though.

[brad]

Phaeton, while your answer is correct, it leaves out the important, relevant information from the TDS, as I believe the 506.01 spec is somewhat unique (ie: it isn't superseded by 507.00)


INDUSTRY SPECIFICATIONS
Penrite Enviro Plus 5W-30 meets the performance
requirements of:
VW 504.00/507.00 (approved)
VW 505.01 (2005 update), 506.01

[Jmac]

Enviro + 5w30 is the only Penrite oil for these engines. Polo Gti Hpr5 is the oil and 2.0fsi again its back to enviro+.
Treg depends on engine some are Enviro+ 0W40 which is the R5 engine 06-09 and HPRD5 for the R5 04-06
Cheers
Jmac

[Diesel_vert]

Do Penrite have an oil that is approved by VW for both 504/507 AND 506.01 ? This would be suitable for all modern VWs, even the early R5 engines in T5s and Touaregs that Transporter mentioned above.

Unfortunately no oil on the market has or ever had both approvals. It's either "503.00/506.00/506.01" or "504.00/507.00".



All diesel vehicles fitted with R5 (5 cylinder) and 5.0ltr V10 engines and manufactured prior to 1 January 2006, cannot use oils meeting Volkswagen standard 507 00 even if equipped with a DPF. These engines should use oils meeting Volkswagen standard 506 01 (eg. Castrol Professional Longtec LongLife II 0W-30) for both LongLife and Time and Distance servicing regimes.

To date, Penrite have no oil that is 506.01 approved. But then there are only 25 oils in the world that meet this spec.

[gregozedobe]

Thanks for that info guys. There are always discussions about official VW approvals for 506.01 (as opposed to the oil maker claiming their oil "meets/complies/exceeds the standard"). I guess if the VW approval process was cheaper/less complicated more oil manufacturers/blenders would bother to jump through VW's approval hoops.

I'm guessing that now that all new VAG TDI engines are designed for VW 507 that there will be less incentive for oil manufacturers/blenders to continue to make 506.01 in the future.

Quite a few people believe that VW 507 is OK for the few engines where 506.01 is specified, but if you have an older R5 engine and are a stickler for following the handbook (ie 506.01) your choices are likely to become more and more limited (and probably more and more expensive) as the years pass.

[Transporter]

In my T5's owner's manual there is VW505.01 as well as 506.01 (08.2004 made T5 AXE engine).

[Jmac]

Unfortunately no oil on the market has or ever had both approvals. It's either "503.00/506.00/506.01" or "504.00/507.00".




To date, Penrite have no oil that is 506.01 approved. But then there are only 25 oils in the world that meet this spec.

HPR Diesel 5 to be used on engines prior to 06 and is 506.00/506.01 only with regards to VW. its alo a global DLD-2/3 which is for the Landie TD5 and the rover TD6.
Cheers
Jmac
Just off the topic a wee bit but looking at the 09 product list here, they have a wide range, lot more than i thought and i see they have been wise to steer away from the Audi CVT.
They do Sonax car care products , anyone get any feedback on it????

[Diesel_vert]

I'll say this first - NO oil submitted to Volkswagen for certification has ever had approvals for both "503.00/506.00/506.01" and "504.00/507.00". It is always one or the other. And strictly speaking, 506.01 never appears by itself, it is always grouped as above for formally approved oils.

Of course, oil makers are free to claim it "meets or exceeds" any oil spec as long as they're confident it would pass, should it undergo the relevant tests.

TO DATE, the only Penrite oil that has been formally approved by Volkswagen is Enviro+ 5W-30 and only for "504.00/507.00" (people with warranties, take note).


But my main point is - for owners with pre-2006 R5 and V10 TDI engines, this is all moot because since you're no longer under warranty, it won't matter whether or not a particular lubricant has been formally submitted for approval. As long as the oil maker is confident it will "meet or exceed" 506.01, then the onus lies with the oil maker, not Volkswagen anymore.

So here goes my theory - if Penrite* are absolutely confident that, if it were to undergo the relevant tests, Enviro+ 5W-30 (or HPR Diesel 5 5W-40) would meet 506.01, then I think it's okay to use it in pre-2006 R5 and V10 TDI engines. They wouldn't print it on the bottle willy-nilly because if the engine were to fail from deficient lubrication, Penrite* would be obliged to repair it (and not Volkswagen, since the warranty has expired). Thoughts?


*This also applies to other boutique oils such as Amsoil, Neo Synthetics, Red Line, Royal Purple, etc who are famous for excellent performance yet never submit them for manufacturer approvals.

[gregozedobe]

In my T5's owner's manual there is VW505.01 as well as 506.01 (08.2004 made T5 AXE engine).

Given the problems some early R5 engines had with premature wear on cams/followers I would be only using 506.01 or 507.00, not 505.01 if I had an early (non-DPF) R5 engine. But that is only my opinion, my R5 has a DPF so it is 507.00 only for mine (Late Oct 2006 build BPC engine).

[Transporter]

Given the problems some early R5 engines had with premature wear on cams/followers I would be only using 506.01 or 507.00, not 505.01 if I had an early (non-DPF) R5 engine. But that is only my opinion, my R5 has a DPF so it is 507.00 only for mine (Late Oct 2006 build BPC engine).

Yeah, I know Grego,
but I have more trust in VW505.01 approved ELF Solaris than any other oil that meets or is made to VW 506.01 or 507.00 specs. (Penrite HPR5 Diesel 5W40 and similar).

and should it come to it, that there is no longer VW506.01 oil to buy, we will have to start using 507.00 oils or what I call “a fake” 506.01 oils. In that case I would go with ELF Solaris or Penrite HPR5 Diesel 5W40 and the dose of LiquiMoly MOS2 additive.

Generally I’m against additives in oils but in the case of VW R5 engine I use LiquiMoly additive from 64000km on, in my engine. I hope, I never need to prematurely replace the camshaft and rockers.

[Transporter]

HPR Diesel 5 to be used on engines prior to 06 and is 506.00/506.01 only with regards to VW. its alo a global DLD-2/3 which is for the Landie TD5 and the rover TD6.
Cheers
Jmac
Just off the topic a wee bit but looking at the 09 product list here, they have a wide range, lot more than i thought and i see they have been wise to steer away from the Audi CVT.
They do Sonax car care products , anyone get any feedback on it????

I used only Sonax Engine flush and it is good. I use Inter-Ject brand as my main Injector cleaner for petrol and diesel. I think the Sonax brand could be a good value for money and I'll try Sonax Tyre Care next time I see Penrite rep.

[vinderliker]

I have been using Penrite HPR15 on the Little Beastie for a couple of years and I get great performance and usage out of it. When I had the big road trip over xmas, during both high heat and then high humidity, the car did not use a drop of oil and it is still opaque and viscous. I am due for an oil change on the 14th Jan, but I am under the 5000ks, I will still do the change anyway. Excellent value for money,and Australian as well.

[Jmac]

Yeah, I know Grego,
but I have more trust in VW505.01 approved ELF Solaris than any other oil that meets or is made to VW 506.01 or 507.00 specs. (Penrite HPR5 Diesel 5W40 and similar).

and should it come to it, that there is no longer VW506.01 oil to buy, we will have to start using 507.00 oils or what I call “a fake” 506.01 oils. In that case I would go with ELF Solaris or Penrite HPR5 Diesel 5W40 and the dose of LiquiMoly MOS2 additive.

Generally I’m against additives in oils but in the case of VW R5 engine I use LiquiMoly additive from 64000km on, in my engine. I hope, I never need to prematurely replace the camshaft and rockers.
Wow i didnt realise there was potential to have don a flame suit on the fuel and lub section, only offered help with any Penrite questions not a bagging of it. Itll clearly never change , use what (you ) feel the need to use and each to their own i suppose.
Wait till i introduce a new chip alternative this year hehehe armidillo suit on order hehehe.
Have fun and i take no offence really only trying to help . been with the brands for moons and tried very hard to stick by what they approve.
Cheers
Jmac

[gregozedobe]

and should it come to it, that there is no longer VW506.01 oil to buy, we will have to start using 507.00 oils or what I call “a fake” 506.01 oils. In that case I would go with ELF Solaris or Penrite HPR5 Diesel 5W40 and the dose of LiquiMoly MOS2 additive.


Have you seen the info re anti-wear properties of 506.01 vs 507.00 from Lubrizol as set out in this Brickyard thread ?

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/oil-50601-v-50700-once-and-for-all-i-hope_topic47209.html

According to that 507 is actually BETTER than 506.01, so you may not need to add MoS2 to use 507 into your early R5 engine.

I've read a few reports on R5s that were burning a fair bit of oil when filled with 506.01, then when the owners switched to 507 the engines burnt significantly less oil.


Jmac, I see no need for flame suits, just a healthy exchange of opinions, no "bagging" that I can see.

The more information people have, the better quality choices thay can make re what oil to put in their vehicles :)

[Transporter]

Have you seen the info re anti-wear properties of 506.01 vs 507.00 from Lubrizol as set out in this Brickyard thread ?

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/oil-50601-v-50700-once-and-for-all-i-hope_topic47209.html

According to that 507 is actually BETTER than 506.01, so you may not need to add MoS2 to use 507 into your early R5 engine.

I've read a few reports on R5s that were burning a fair bit of oil when filled with 506.01, then when the owners switched to 507 the engines burnt significantly less oil.


Jmac, I see no need for flame suits, just a healthy exchange of opinions, no "bagging" that I can see.

The more information people have, the better quality choices thay can make re what oil to put in their vehicles :)

Great info,

I wonder, if it is the viscosity 0W30 of the VW506.01 that is more important for early R5 engine, since the VW don't want to use VW507.00 in them.

I looked at the wear scars in that article from Lubrizol and one has to remember that for the 0W30 oil to get the same results in anti-wear protection the anti-wear additives must be tougher (better or maybe “a different” is probably a better word) than in 5W30 oils.

Any way it is good to know that 507.00 oils are as tough as 506.01, less worry for the future.



Wow i didnt realise there was potential to have don a flame suit on the fuel and lub section, only offered help with any Penrite questions not a bagging of it. Itll clearly never change , use what (you ) feel the need to use and each to their own i suppose.
Wait till i introduce a new chip alternative this year hehehe armidillo suit on order hehehe.
Have fun and i take no offence really only trying to help . been with the brands for moons and tried very hard to stick by what they approve.
Cheers
Jmac

Don’t get me wrong mate, I like the Penrite products, I switched from ELF to Penrite and now use only some of the ELF oils. Penrite is a great product and it was the no.2 reason why I made the switch, no 1 was, it is OZ made.

What I meant was that, my T5’s owner’s manual allows VW505.01 and since the ELF is approved for that,
it is a logical choice to use it before Penrite's - made to specs (not tested/not approved) oil. :)

[Jmac]

Have you seen the info re anti-wear properties of 506.01 vs 507.00 from Lubrizol as set out in this Brickyard thread ?

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/oil-50601-v-50700-once-and-for-all-i-hope_topic47209.html

According to that 507 is actually BETTER than 506.01, so you may not need to add MoS2 to use 507 into your early R5 engine.

I've read a few reports on R5s that were burning a fair bit of oil when filled with 506.01, then when the owners switched to 507 the engines burnt significantly less oil.


Jmac, I see no need for flame suits, just a healthy exchange of opinions, no "bagging" that I can see.

The more information people have, the better quality choices thay can make re what oil to put in their vehicles :)

Fair call from you both, glad to see a conversation about it and not just which oil is best routine like normal, i might have jumped a bit and thats just the gaelic blood firing through my veins guys im up for topic like the rest but have had the haunches up a few times on here but chill pill in order:rolleyes:
Cant be helped sometimes im sure you understand when you read some of the drivel
Peace
Jmac

[Transporter]

Fair call from you both, glad to see a conversation about it and not just which oil is best routine like normal, i might have jumped a bit and thats just the gaelic blood firing through my veins guys im up for topic like the rest but have had the haunches up a few times on here but chill pill in order:rolleyes:
Cant be helped sometimes im sure you understand when you read some of the drivel
Peace
Jmac

No prob's mate, it's all good. :)

Did you try any of the Sonax product, yet?

[gregozedobe]

I wonder, if it is the viscosity 0W30 of the VW506.01 that is more important for early R5 engine, since the VW don't want to use VW507.00 in them.

AFAIK the 0W vs 5W is the viscosity (flowability) at low temperatures, and the second 30W is the rating for hot oil, so there is no effective difference between the two as far as viscosity goes once the engine is warmed up.

I think the anti-wear additives are the crucial ingredient in 506.01 oils.

The lower cold viscosity in 506.01 might help with cold starts and lubrication at start up with the freezing temps they are getting in Europe and northern USA lately.

My theory on why VW hasn't officially approved 507 for the early R5 motors is simple economics - that particular variant of the R5 engine is no longer made and there are not many of them in use, so not much demand for oils for them, therefore not worth spending the money to go through the approval process for 507 oils.



What I meant was that, my T5’s owner’s manual allows VW505.01

Do you know if 505.01 is currently approved for your engine ? I ask because VW have been known to change oil approvals for engines well after the date of after manufacture, thus rendering "no longer accurate" the info in the owner's manual that came with the vehicle.

I have read quite a few oil manufacturer's "which oil" guides for T5s, and I don't recall seeing 505.01 mentioned as suitable for R5s.

Personally, if I had an early R5 engine (I don't), I would be more comfortable using a "made to spec" 507 oil than with a "VW officially approved" 505.01 oil, especially if going the full 12 months/15,000 km between services and/or if there were a significant number of short journeys in the driving regime. Probably wouldn't matter either way with shorter change intervals and wholly longer journeys. But that is just my opinion ;)

As I've said before, it is up to each individual to gather all the relevant info and make the choice they believe is best for their circumstances.

[Diesel_vert]

Also, see my earlier post on this thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showpost.php?p=441553&postcount=72) regarding UOA's on 507 oils. The jist of it being 507.00 oils show a lower wear rate than 505.01 (in 4-cylinder TDI's).

So while real world data shows 507.00 is better than 505.01, I don't know if you can extrapolate that data to R5 engines.

IMHO I don't think it matters what you use - 505.01, 506.01, 507.00, "approved", "meets/exceeds", whatever - just use what you're comfortable with and if the engine dies from poor lubrication, submit a claim to the oil manufacturer.

One thing Volkswagen need to do though, is to stay off the crack.

[Transporter]

AFAIK the 0W vs 5W is the viscosity (flowability) at low temperatures, and the second 30W is the rating for hot oil, so there is no effective difference between the two as far as viscosity goes once the engine is warmed up.

I think the anti-wear additives are the crucial ingredient in 506.01 oils.

The lower cold viscosity in 506.01 might help with cold starts and lubrication at start up with the freezing temps they are getting in Europe and northern USA lately.

My theory on why VW hasn't officially approved 507 for the early R5 motors is simple economics - that particular variant of the R5 engine is no longer made and there are not many of them in use, so not much demand for oils for them, therefore not worth spending the money to go through the approval process for 507 oils.




Do you know if 505.01 is currently approved for your engine ? I ask because VW have been known to change oil approvals for engines well after the date of after manufacture, thus rendering "no longer accurate" the info in the owner's manual that came with the vehicle.

I have read quite a few oil manufacturer's "which oil" guides for T5s, and I don't recall seeing 505.01 mentioned as suitable for R5s.

Personally, if I had an early R5 engine (I don't), I would be more comfortable using a "made to spec" 507 oil than with a "VW officially approved" 505.01 oil, especially if going the full 12 months/15,000 km between services and/or if there were a significant number of short journeys in the driving regime. Probably wouldn't matter either way with shorter change intervals and wholly longer journeys. But that is just my opinion ;)

As I've said before, it is up to each individual to gather all the relevant info and make the choice they believe is best for their circumstances.

The wear at the start up in 0W might be less compared to 5W weight oils. As the 0W oil flows faster when cold (most of the engine wear is done at first seconds when the engine starts), you get the critical components lubricated sooner, and also when the oil is aging its viscosity is changing too.

VW505.01 approved for my R5 also means that the oil was tested in no. of T5’s and was approved at the time for 12months/15,000km. Why did they later change it to VW506.01 I don't know, it could well be because of the worn out valve train components when people were changing oil at 15,000km intervals, I change my oil at 7,500km or 6 months, no later. The 506.01 oil was approved for 2 years or 50,000km (not in OZ) when I bought my van and what they say now? Is it 30,000km?

But regardless of the speculations, I always keep the stock of VW506.01 oil for my T5, so it is very unlikely I will have to use VW505.01 or VW507.00 in it. :)
At the moment I plan on keeping that van for another 5 to 10 years and even if it last that long, I can't say it is because I changed oil every 7,500km (too small test sample, 1 vehicle).

[phaeton]

From the Penrite rep at work

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/03/4412505812_e8443a1ffd_b-1.jpg
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2010/03/4411737857_7da671c71c_b-1.jpg

[gregozedobe]

Thanks for that Ben.

Wow, Euro 1,340 for approval that lasts for 2 years !!!!!

Now I know why some oil containers say "meets" rather than "approved".

[phaeton]

Thanks for that Ben.

Wow, Euro 1,340 for approval that lasts for 2 years !!!!!

Now I know why some oil containers say "meets" rather than "approved".

Your welcome :cool:

The rep also told me that a Workshop in SA services the T5 Campers from KEA with Penrite and has VW Approval.

Also asked about DSG oil the rep said its being developed but will be a while before it arrives.

[Jmac]

Your welcome :cool:

The rep also told me that a Workshop in SA services the T5 Campers from KEA with Penrite and has VW Approval.

Also asked about DSG oil the rep said its being developed but will be a while before it arrives.

Hey Ben exactly the letter i saw, cheers for posting up mate. Im signed up with Penrite and consider it a great move, tech back up is great and having oil delivered to my home base is great. Being mobile at the mo i can be all over the place,but if i call with an emergency they will even leave me oil at reception when the warehouse is closed cant get any better really. Local rep couldnt help any more if he tried
Cheers
Jmac

[Transporter]

Hi Jmac,

You asked if someone tried Sonax brand.

Today I received some Sonax car care products and I just tried their wheel cleaner (ordered 5L of it, since Penrite rep showed me how it works). I cleaned wheels on our Touareg in less than 10min. The product is ph neutral, smells nice and just sprays on leave 5 min and hose off. The best wheel cleaner I've ever used! :banana:
Also tried/bought Glass Polish, Clearview windscreen washer additive (in 5L very economical), Glass cleaner (in 10L well priced). All good. :)

[Jmac]

Hi Jmac,

You asked if someone tried Sonax brand.

Today I received some Sonax car care products and I just tried their wheel cleaner (ordered 5L of it, since Penrite rep showed me how it works). I cleaned wheels on our Touareg in less than 10min. The product is ph neutral, smells nice and just sprays on leave 5 min and hose off. The best wheel cleaner I've ever used! :banana:
Also tried/bought Glass Polish, Clearview windscreen washer additive (in 5L very economical), Glass cleaner (in 10L well priced). All good. :)

Thats great feedback,might speak to my rep and order some, be good to have some for the dyno day im holding in QLD next month
Cheers
Jmac

[The Last Streetfighter]

I have some Castrol edge sport 5W30 I think and a full bucket of HPR10W50 (called Plus10). Reckon I'll thow them both in together and let them fight it out. (1.8T 1999 Passat.) Did I miss your dyn day?

[James b]

So what should I use in my 010 1.8t Passat,as it is oil hungry. the penrite site says I can use hpr5, 5/40. Will this help reduse the oil usage as it stands a 1ltr per 100ks.

[brad]

1L per 100 kilometres is a mechanical issue. You could put 10w60 and it still wouldn't make a difference.

Have you checked the PCV and had a wet/dry compression test done?

[Umai Naa!!]

502/505-spec 5W40 will help, but won't completely solve it.

[Martin]

My Octavia used to swallow at least 1.5 litre of oil per month
Since adding 250ml of Liqui Molly Visco Sabil Plus it has not used any oil, done 5,000km so far
It leaves the cold viscosity the same but significantly increases the hot viscosity

[James b]

1L per 100 kilometres is a mechanical issue. You could put 10w60 and it still wouldn't make a difference.

Have you checked the PCV and had a wet/dry compression test done?
Sorry I meant 1000 ks not 100ks.