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binnyvo
22-06-2008, 05:53 PM
To all polo gti owners out there, at what rev should each gear change be to get the gti singing at its best( i.e should you just redline it through the first 3 gears:?).

VW GTI
22-06-2008, 05:57 PM
I personally try to change at around 5500 when pushing it really hard.

Blitzen
22-06-2008, 06:00 PM
X2 with Tosspot...I found any later than that and the torque curve seems to die off.

Sharkie
22-06-2008, 06:03 PM
You'd find that with a std intake the Polo develops a dead zone from about 5500rpm.

With a modified intake, ie SEAT, K&N and Forge TIP, that dead zone is gone and it revs cleanly and smoothly to the rev limiter without that dead feeling powerwise. I'm pretty sure its the case with a CDA and Forge TIP combination as well.

mitch_gti
22-06-2008, 07:33 PM
I think when the Polo was standard its best to change gears a little earlier like others have said, 5,500.

I have APR, 3inch downpipe with enlarged cat entry & exit, forge t.i.p, forge dv valve, cupra r intake with bmc airfilter.

The Polo now cleanly revs to 6,500 with plenty of power.

Although I still think that if i have enough self control, its good to change from 1st to second (when your into it) at about 6,000. It seems to limit wheel spin through second gear and as a result improve acceleration.

Kind of depressing getting into the polo today. Driving Audi's everyday has made me very tempted to upgrade.
Im thinking about one of the new limited edition S3's that we have in the showroom. Flat bottom steering wheel, sunroof, privacy glass, 18'' titanium finish RS4 style wheels, black high gloss front grille, Audi design bucket seats (basically the same as RS4 seats, without electric adjustment)

If i bought it, id be straight down to APR. 239kw !!!!!! with Quattro grip

VW GTI
22-06-2008, 07:41 PM
Im thinking about one of the new limited edition S3's that we have in the showroom. Flat bottom steering wheel, sunroof, privacy glass, 18'' titanium finish RS4 style wheels, black high gloss front grille, Audi design bucket seats (basically the same as RS4 seats, without electric adjustment)

If i bought it, id be straight down to APR. 239kw !!!!!! with Quattro grip

HOW MUCH??????

mitch_gti
22-06-2008, 07:52 PM
off the top of my head, i think they are about 76 on road. retail.


increddddddible car.

But we do have a red demo S3 with about 230 kms on it.
Pretty sure this has just had a price drop to about 65k driveaway.

It has flat bottom steering wheel, window tint and alloy inlays.
I have had my eye on this car, this would probably be the one i buy, if i did buy.

DaveMack
23-06-2008, 12:05 AM
You'd find that with a std intake the Polo develops a dead zone from about 5500rpm.

With a modified intake, ie SEAT, K&N and Forge TIP, that dead zone is gone and it revs cleanly and smoothly to the rev limiter without that dead feeling powerwise. I'm pretty sure its the case with a CDA and Forge TIP combination as well.

Johan is right ... mine pulls straight thru to 6,500rpm without hesitation now ... and that's where I change. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: I've driven Eddy's as well ... same thing, but faster round corners. :biggrin:

Dave

GT3
23-06-2008, 08:20 AM
... mine pulls straight thru to 6,500rpm without hesitation now ... and that's where I change.

I now have the Seat intake, K&N and Forge TIP - was surprised to see how well it powers through to 6.5rpm :) ..although if you drive like Dave, then don't expect brilliant fuel economy :biggrin:

DaveMack
23-06-2008, 10:00 AM
I now have the Seat intake, K&N and Forge TIP - was surprised to see how well it powers through to 6.5rpm :) ..although if you drive like Dave, then don't expect brilliant fuel economy :biggrin:

Hehehe ... well, I always consider 50% of the cost of fuel an "Entertainment tax". :biggrin:

Dave

hkogti
24-06-2008, 02:58 PM
I thrash one of those during the audi drive day at mooney mooney...

White with the assy you mentioned... 75k brand new on the rd...

Cant afford it and i rekon the polo is just as fun 2 drive...

stick to the polo mate!

Chasing an S4 through the bends...

Amazing grip, but the car doesnt feel really fast... Nothing much under 3500rpm...

mitch_gti
24-06-2008, 08:06 PM
The polo is a good car for the dollars.

With a few grand spent on it (flash, rear swaybar,intake and springs) it becomes a great little car.

But even with all of the APR gear i still dont think it will match the performance of a standard S3 which does 0-100 in mid 5 seconds.

Plus the polo's build quality leaves alot to be desired.
S3's handling is also incredible and much safer at the limit (Quattro) and has 17inch brakes.

By no means am i bagging the Polo, obviously.... i own one. If i thought it were crap id sell it or wouldnt have bought it in the first place.
But side by side there simply is No comparison.

The S3 in my eyes is perhaps the best hot hatch made today and would be happy to own one and keep it standard.

But ...Once reflashed by APR it becomes a world eater.

Flaps
24-06-2008, 09:45 PM
For 70K+ I'd rather an 135i then an S3.

Or I'd by an EVO 9 and leave them both eating dust...

mazgtr
24-06-2008, 09:49 PM
EVO 8 or 9...

ECU Flash, intake and exhaust system, 200kw at all four wheels and mid 12sec quarters. Not to mention nothing will stay with you on the twisties.

My old EVO 6 was a weapon.

Ill buy another EVO after the Polo....

Sharkie
25-06-2008, 08:02 AM
I'd rather a 135i. As soon as the chipping issues are resolved it will kill almost anything ........ 3.0l of twin turbo power in drop dead body.....:bowdown:

Evo's aren't that quick .... for less than half the price a MK1 Golf (like the one I had) will eat it alive ..... I have done so to tuned STI's, tuned EVO's and even a Lamborghini Diablo amongst other things......

12.3s quarter at 1800m above sea-level where a tuned EVO could only do a 12.8 and the Diablo 12.9...... and it wasn't even the fastest MK1 around .....

RhysQ
25-06-2008, 09:59 AM
so....this thread has gone on a wild tangent, it is no longer about gear changes it would seem. seems the topic is about what car can pull a quicker quarter!

at least we got 6/14 replies on topic :rolleyes:


I think when the Polo was standard its best to change gears a little earlier like others have said, 5,500.

I have APR, 3inch downpipe with enlarged cat entry & exit, forge t.i.p, forge dv valve, cupra r intake with bmc airfilter.

The Polo now cleanly revs to 6,500 with plenty of power.

Although I still think that if i have enough self control, its good to change from 1st to second (when your into it) at about 6,000. It seems to limit wheel spin through second gear and as a result improve acceleration.

Kind of depressing getting into the polo today. Driving Audi's everyday has made me very tempted to upgrade.
Im thinking about one of the new limited edition S3's that we have in the showroom. Flat bottom steering wheel, sunroof, privacy glass, 18'' titanium finish RS4 style wheels, black high gloss front grille, Audi design bucket seats (basically the same as RS4 seats, without electric adjustment)

If i bought it, id be straight down to APR. 239kw !!!!!! with Quattro grip

this is where we went off track. we know you work for AUDI Mitch, which is great for you, but please stop trying to sell your cars all the time (continuous raps).....it gets boring. it was a question on Polo's, WTF does that BOLD section have to do with optimal revs for gear changing in Polo's!

GT3
25-06-2008, 10:14 AM
;179378'] it was a question on Polo's, WTF does that BOLD section have to do with optimal revs for gear changing in Polo's!

Dave - I think we have a potential moderator here, reckon he could fill your shoes quite easily on any fishing trips you've got coming up :biggrin:

RhysQ
25-06-2008, 10:25 AM
Dave - I think we have a potential moderator here, reckon he could fill your shoes quite easily on any fishing trips you've got coming up :biggrin:

hahahahahaha....not trying to take anyones role! i just read through the whole thread and thought it was funny how much this swerved off track.

Adam
25-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Dave - I think we have a potential moderator here, reckon he could fill your shoes quite easily on any fishing trips you've got coming up :biggrin:

Flying today in a Bombardier Dash 8 with 5000+hp and then getting back into my polo just make me depress at how slow and how little power the polo has.....:nana:


Anyway, stock polo wise, mine runs out of puff at 5500rpm.....So, that's the best time to change (i reckon)

DaveMack
25-06-2008, 12:52 PM
OK ... so ... to summarise. Std Pogos change at 5,500 ... chipped with breathing help 6,500. OK? :biggrin:

Case closed.

Dave