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Blue B6
13-06-2008, 06:31 PM
I am sorry if this has been asked before, however I had my first service today on my V6 at 5000kms (6 months) and it was well over $300 for what I can see as oil and a filter change. What has been other Passat owners experience? I am not whinging about the cost but I do feel it was a bit on the high side.

VolksFlagon
17-06-2008, 02:42 PM
Was this an unscheduled service? I thought that the 1st service was not until 15k.

SmutsGTI
17-06-2008, 02:59 PM
VW don't get out of bed for less than $300 in my experience. The cheapest service for my wifes Golf Trendline was well over 300. I get a real mechanic to do it for around $170 ( yes with oem parts ) now she's out of warranty

Smuts

Blue B6
17-06-2008, 10:38 PM
Was this an unscheduled service? I thought that the 1st service was not until 15k.

The first service in the manual is the delivery inspection service which states 6 months or 7500kms. I am not sure if the service intervals on the V6 are different.

rark
18-06-2008, 01:26 PM
When our Passat was delivered, the first service is I was told to get was at 15,000KM. The VW manual states a service at 7,500KM required (delivery inspection service), but it does not void your warranty if you skip this one.

Blue B6
18-06-2008, 09:59 PM
When our Passat was delivered, the first service is I was told to get was at 15,000KM. The VW manual states a service at 7,500KM required (delivery inspection service), but it does not void your warranty if you skip this one.

I know modern oil is good however i would rather change the oil earlier and have the car checked over.

slitko
19-06-2008, 12:43 AM
Did our 15000K service today and paid $469

rark
19-06-2008, 07:48 PM
I know modern oil is good however i would rather change the oil earlier and have the car checked over.

But I'm 400km from our nearest VW dealer, and I paid for a quality car that didn't need servicing every 5000km.

I take your point though, but I plan to change vehicles at the end of the warranty period anyway.

rark
13-08-2009, 03:24 PM
First service today.

$369 in Sydney

okisub
13-08-2009, 05:59 PM
I didn't look into this either until about a month after picking up our Passat. Not looking foward to it and probably will call around some other mechanics when the time comes for our 1st service.

According to this site HERE (http://www.carservice.com.au/car-service-servicing-guide-2.aspx?makeid=10&carlineid=1949&modelid=3332) it's every 2nd year that hurts the most(for the TDI's anyway). I nearly fell off my chair when I read it!

gerhard
13-08-2009, 07:29 PM
I didn't look into this either until about a month after picking up our Passat. Not looking foward to it and probably will call around some other mechanics when the time comes for our 1st service.

According to this site HERE (http://www.carservice.com.au/car-service-servicing-guide-2.aspx?makeid=10&carlineid=1949&modelid=3332) it's every 2nd year that hurts the most(for the TDI's anyway). I nearly fell off my chair when I read it!

When buying a new car, there are some essential pieces of information required -

What is the Insurance going to cost
What is the regular servicing going to cost
How often does the car need brake pads and rotors replaced
How long do the tyres typically last and what do they cost.
Can you extend the factory warranty (may not really be required for a Hyundai, but arguably essential for a high spec Euro)


If people did their due diligence before buying we wouldn't need BORING threads complaining about the running costs, especially ancient ones revived. To make things worse, the OP complains about the cost after doing a service that is not even required (6 months) :duh:

passatpout
13-08-2009, 08:58 PM
I reckon it's a case of which dealer you go to. I've had 2 dealer services on my car. The 15,000km service was around $280-300, and the 30,000km service was about $380, both of which I thought were reasonable. Can't see where the $600+ price on the website came from.. the gullible??

Really, there's some thought that can be put into service costs, if you think about it. As a basic list:

Oil: 5 litres @ $20/l - $100.
Other materials (filters, sump plugs, etc): $50-100.
Labour - say 2 hours @ $80/hour (generous): $160
Disposal costs - $50.

Gives a total of $410.

There'll be some things I've overquoted, and some things I've missed.

For what it's worth, my wife's Mazda2 cost $380 for its 5 year service at 19,500km (she doesn't do high mileage). On that basis, I can't complain about VW service costs, considering that the Passat has a bigger engine, diesel, 6-speed box, larger car, more expensive, and driven harder (30,000km since I collected it 11 months ago, compared to 19,500km over 5 years).

If you really don't want to pay the costs, try doing it yourself.

Cro
13-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Just wait till your 60k service guys...
I'm told the DSG component is $1200. Definitely rebudgeting the lease to include that one next year.

Maverick
13-08-2009, 09:17 PM
When buying a new car, there are some essential pieces of information required -

What is the Insurance going to cost
What is the regular servicing going to cost
How often does the car need brake pads and rotors replaced
How long do the tyres typically last and what do they cost.
Can you extend the factory warranty (may not really be required for a Hyundai, but arguably essential for a high spec Euro)

If people did their due diligence before buying we wouldn't need BORING threads complaining about the running costs, especially ancient ones revived. To make things worse, the OP complains about the cost after doing a service that is not even required (6 months) :duh:

The ones who complain clearly have issues with comprehension and should have stopped at the Hyundai dealer.

Servicing makes up such a small part of car ownership that's it not worth worrying about but ask for a quote first and don't jump on the interweb and carry on when a service costs more than their old 1985 Ford Falcon.

Ask what they're going to do before they do the service so you don't have to whinge that the dealer charges you $20 for tyre rotation or $30 for a wiper blade.

Service costs are cheap IMO, I paid ~$150 for a oil change which included 504.00/507.00 oil, filter etc. The 15K service was only $300.50 and included a free loan car.

Maverick
13-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Just wait till your 60k service guys...
I'm told the DSG component is $1200. Definitely rebudgeting the lease to include that one next year.

The DSG component isn't $1200.

The DSG oil change is only required at 60K (not time based) and costs ~$400.

If done at the time of the 60K service the total price will be ~$1000-1200.

ron
14-08-2009, 12:34 AM
300-400 for lube service is pretty standard for most car dealers, even jap or even aussie brand car dealers.

Like others said earlier, these are Euro cars and require Euro running cost.

I remember one of my friend had a 1st clutch change in his 911 and it was like $4500. normal 15000K service is like 1500 bucks!!!!

Check this one out, I knew a gent who had a MacF1. the 5000k fuel bladder change was $15,000. faaarrrrrkkk!!!!:eek:

gerhard
14-08-2009, 09:31 AM
The DSG component isn't $1200.

The DSG oil change is only required at 60K (not time based) and costs ~$400.

If done at the time of the 60K service the total price will be ~$1000-1200.

Correct.

It's also worth noting that most auto-shifting transmissions used over the last 10-15 years are claimed to last the "lifetime" of the vehicle without requiring any service. Many don't even have a dip-stick, so the fluid level is never checked. Don't be fooled there isn't a trannie that will do 500,000k without an oil/filter change.

At least VW is realistic and specifies a 60k service for the DSG. The price at $400 is not expensive by ANY auto transmission service standards.

If you believe in your "lifetime" filled transmission, and you run past 150,000k or so, you will spent the money you save on servicing on repairs instead. If you happen to have the excellent Ford 6 speed auto, it can't be repaired economically so you could be up for a repair bill bigger then the residual value....

Rocket36
14-08-2009, 09:40 AM
What I don't understand about servicing costs is that people complain about them at all!!! You're buying a car that has thousands of parts all working together. Seriously, is it a surprise that servicing our ever increasingly complex (yet also ever increasingly comfortable, safe, refined and better performing) cars are getting a little bit more expensive to maintain. Not many people get to a scheduled service interval more than once a year. If it's an average of $500 a service that's about $1.90 per day ONLY COUNTING WEEKDAYS. Sure Petrol is on top of that, but seriously it's still bloody good value for the sorts of cars we have.

I spend more that two times that on Coffee! lol

Benem
14-08-2009, 09:47 AM
300-400 for lube service is pretty standard for most car dealers, even jap or even aussie brand car dealers.

Like others said earlier, these are Euro cars and require Euro running cost.

I remember one of my friend had a 1st clutch change in his 911 and it was like $4500. normal 15000K service is like 1500 bucks!!!!



Ron, are those are "turbo" $$$?

V6Passat
14-08-2009, 10:34 AM
What I don't understand about servicing costs is that people complain about them at all!!! You're buying a car that has thousands of parts all working together. Seriously, is it a surprise that servicing our ever increasingly complex (yet also ever increasingly comfortable, safe, refined and better performing) cars are getting a little bit more expensive to maintain. Not many people get to a scheduled service interval more than once a year. If it's an average of $500 a service that's about $1.90 per day ONLY COUNTING WEEKDAYS. Sure Petrol is on top of that, but seriously it's still bloody good value for the sorts of cars we have.

I spend more that two times that on Coffee! lol

Dead right!! My current Focus XR5 Turbo only 30,000k costs about $500 per service, the 30k service which i am avoiding before i hand it over to my dealer is $900 and this is for a ford focus!!!

RichPassat
14-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I didn't buy the Passat to worry about sevicing costs - as mentioned before there are a large number of components that will require a once over and you expect to pay accordingly.

I had a Mazda Bravo prior to the Passat that I serviced with a intermediate at 5000km and the log book service at 10000km and that would cost me $250 and $600 respectively. I will still get the Passat done at an intermediate of 7500km for oil and won't be complaining of the price as I personally believe that clean oil is good for a diesel.

Rocket36
14-08-2009, 12:01 PM
I personally change the oil in all my vehicles (2 cars, 1 bike) every 5,000km.

richdave
14-08-2009, 04:04 PM
$495.95 for the 30K service done recently. :(

I can tell you that so far this car is cheaper to service than the BA XR6T I used to have :banana:

ron
14-08-2009, 08:24 PM
I personally change the oil in all my vehicles (2 cars, 1 bike) every 5,000km.

me too. every 5000k's regardless of time. except my hiace its now like 10000klms overdue, slackass

ron
14-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Ron, are those are "turbo" $$$?

no, that was a 996 911 carrera s, then he got a 997 turbo in auto. Now changed again to a Vanquish S, i am still waiting for my 1st test drive.

Benem
14-08-2009, 09:14 PM
no, that was a 996 911 carrera s, then he got a 997 turbo in auto. Now changed again to a Vanquish S, i am still waiting for my 1st test drive.

your friend got done on the clutch...but judging by his stable his hip pocket would hardly have noticed it :-)

I am salivating at all those lovely cars:bowdown:

ron
14-08-2009, 10:09 PM
your friend got done on the clutch...but judging by his stable his hip pocket would hardly have noticed it :-)

I am salivating at all those lovely cars:bowdown:

yep me too. i guess i cant afford those things but lucky enough to know people that have em. :)

Cro
15-08-2009, 10:22 AM
The DSG component isn't $1200.

The DSG oil change is only required at 60K (not time based) and costs ~$400.

If done at the time of the 60K service the total price will be ~$1000-1200.

Well that's a relief :-D

passatpout
15-08-2009, 10:57 AM
Well that's a relief :-D

Yeah, but at my rate of clocking up mileage, I'll be up for it around about March next year...

passatpout
15-08-2009, 11:07 AM
What I don't understand about servicing costs is that people complain about them at all!!! You're buying a car that has thousands of parts all working together. Seriously, is it a surprise that servicing our ever increasingly complex (yet also ever increasingly comfortable, safe, refined and better performing) cars are getting a little bit more expensive to maintain. Not many people get to a scheduled service interval more than once a year. If it's an average of $500 a service that's about $1.90 per day ONLY COUNTING WEEKDAYS. Sure Petrol is on top of that, but seriously it's still bloody good value for the sorts of cars we have.

I spend more that two times that on Coffee! lol

Agreed on that. Compared to other forms of transport (planes, ships, trucks, trains), as a proportion of operating and capital cost, cars are actually cheap to maintain, and getting cheaper in real terms. That's probably because of economies of scale, or market forces dictating cheap prices. How many people still need to do a valve grind every 10,000km or an engine rebuild after 100,000km nowadays?

In general, with a train, its maintenance costs over its life will be about 1.5-2 times the original capital costs - so a $7 million loco will cost between, say, $10-14 million to maintain over 25-30 years, in the base dollars of the year of construction, without any future present value alterations. I haven't seen any car yet that costs, say, $50,000, and is going to cost $100,000 to maintain over 20 years.

Note that's only for maintenance costs, not operating costs, so things like fuel, consumables (tyres, etc), aren't counted. Only considering things that would normally be changed during a service - filters, brake pads/rotors, etc.

richdave
15-08-2009, 12:43 PM
As far as servicing is concerned I suggest getting your dealer to quote before you drop it in. No names mentioned (yet) but a $100 + difference in service charge on a 30K service is not something I want to repeat... :mad:

I have 2 dealers that I can easily get to and 2 others that are close enough if the saving is worth the drive so I will be shopping around for the 45K service.

richdave
15-08-2009, 09:11 PM
$45,000!!! No wonder people are complaining about the service costs!! :rolllaugh:

LOL :crazy:

richdave
20-08-2009, 06:28 PM
Just did my tax and found the 15K service bill.... $336.70 :eek:

Now wondering what other paid for their 15K service..

Rocket36
20-08-2009, 06:29 PM
That's good value!

passatpout
20-08-2009, 10:59 PM
Just did my tax and found the 15K service bill.... $336.70 :eek:

Now wondering what other paid for their 15K service..

From memory, about $280.. but that was in January.. I can dig out the paperwork at some stage..

richdave
16-10-2010, 08:52 PM
FWIW just had the 60K service done

Cost me $1096 at Berwin VW

Mountainman
16-10-2010, 11:29 PM
300-400 for lube service is pretty standard for most car dealers, even jap or even aussie brand car dealers.

I have run up 600,000km in 3 big selling Jap cars over the last 13 years all serviced at dealers and know this is simply not true. A synthetic oil/filter change minor service with fuel additive, tyre rotation, the usual checks you could do yourself anyway and wash started back then around $150 and now is between $180 to $210 including GST depending on vehicle. They are 1 hour services where the labour component is $100 - $120 depending on the dealer.