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benough
12-05-2008, 09:18 PM
Surely you could shoehorn the 3.0L V6 TDI from the Audi Q7 into a MKV Golf...

As much as this is tounge in cheek, could it be done?

GoLfMan
12-05-2008, 09:27 PM
I dunno, i think that engine is N/S? and the R32 is east west and narrow angle...

i dare say it would fit with a few mods, bigger engines have been dropped in before!!! Anythings possible as long as your pockets are as big as your aspirations ;)

gregozedobe
12-05-2008, 10:39 PM
In these sorts of projects it is often the little stuff that takes all the time and money (electronics, air intakes, radiator hoses, fuel lines, exhausts etc), as most people suss out the big stuff (engine physically fits, engine mounts, gearboxes and bell housings etc) before deciding whether to start or not.

And of course after you've finished you need to find an engineer to approve it and an insurance company willing to give you cover.

If your pockets are deep enough and/or you have the mechanical (and electronics) skills to do it, then 500+Nm of torque would shift an AWD Golf along pretty damn smartly, to say the least :)

balkanac
13-05-2008, 11:44 AM
it would be nice to have 500Nm in a golf, but is it worth the hassle? 3.2l is a 15 degree V6 with one head and 2 cam shafts, so its just a bit bigger than a 2L engine.
Audi's 3L V6 is a proper 60 or 90 degree V6 with 2 heads so it needs more space. I don't think you'd be able to get it under the bonnet

99gti
13-05-2008, 12:20 PM
I'm going to say nope. Like has been said before the R32 motor and the VR6 motor are a rather unique v6 in the fact they only have the one head. It's a very narrow V6 and they fill the engine bay pretty much. I'd imagine you would have to do some serious structual modifications to make it fit.

Vr6_Dog
13-05-2008, 12:26 PM
Cylinders are offset in the Vr's to squeeze them in the Golf engine bay, almost a cross between an in-line 6 and a "V6" so I dont think much luck with Q7's V6.

Greg Roles
13-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Supercharge what you already have.

Be WAY cheaper and easier despite still being a hassle.

It's my current "moonshot" dream, a TSI TDI.

Might have to drop Sprintex a line:D

STV4SYT
13-05-2008, 03:08 PM
Hmmm, one of these....

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/05/011__scaled_600_020-1.jpg

jayjay
13-05-2008, 03:23 PM
Cylinders are offset in the Vr's to squeeze them in the Golf engine bay, almost a cross between an in-line 6 and a "V6" so I dont think much luck with Q7's V6.

haha funny you mention that

VR6 = Vee-Reihe-Sechs.

translates to v-straight-6. so yeah, it is actually a cross between an inline 6 and a v6. j:

i wish i wish i wish they made an golf r30d

benough
13-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Supercharge what you already have.

Be WAY cheaper and easier despite still being a hassle.

It's my current "moonshot" dream, a TSI TDI.

Might have to drop Sprintex a line:D

I remember reading that Dr. Martin Peppercorn or Prof. Klaus Diesel saying they weren't going to do a TSI TDI.

balkanac
13-05-2008, 04:13 PM
i'd love to have that Audi engine but in a petrol version :)

STV4SYT
13-05-2008, 04:20 PM
i'd love to have that Audi engine but in a petrol version :)


If its good enough for the R8???

Jarred
13-05-2008, 04:29 PM
anything is possible! depends what you want it for. you could put it in, with moddede firewall and stuff, so it would fit easy, but then you'd have tosacrifice the dash, and leg room etc.

as josh said, I hope your pockets are as big as your dreams! its do able. but impractical, even if you're really really rich ;)

Mischa
13-05-2008, 04:33 PM
you could make a gt tdi pretty damn fast with 15 grand i reckon. here's what im gonna do when i finish uni and have a descent income:

full exhaust with no dpf
intake
chip
intercooler
lsd
coilovers
swaybars


a weapon i think :cool:

jayjay
13-05-2008, 04:41 PM
but then with all those engine mods, you'd end up at the starting point of a 3.0 tdi golf... except it'd have quattro.. :o

except that golf would weight about 1700kg... hahaha

GoLfMan
13-05-2008, 05:51 PM
but then with all those engine mods, you'd end up at the starting point of a 3.0 tdi golf... except it'd have quattro.. :o

except that golf would weight about 1700kg... hahaha

and it wouldnt turn corners properly with about 300-400kgs hangin over the front axle!

Greg Roles
13-05-2008, 06:12 PM
I remember reading that Dr. Martin Peppercorn or Prof. Klaus Diesel saying they weren't going to do a TSI TDI.

Dr Cogdoc doesn't listen to those amateurs!

Greg Roles
13-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Hmmm, one of these....

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/05/011__scaled_600_020-1.jpg

equals



http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/cogdoc/220.jpg

benough
13-05-2008, 06:58 PM
hahahaha!

I am trying to figure out what has happened to that old car...

Snapped axle?

GoLfMan
13-05-2008, 07:06 PM
ohh boy ohh boy do i love that V12 TDI!!! :D