Suspension for the Polo

[PoloGTi]

Hey all its been a while any way lookig into new suspension for the Polo.
To put it simply it feels slopy compared to my old MK4 Golf which Andrew set up suspension wise with: Koni shock, Eibach springs and a whitline RSB it was wikkid to drive loved the feeling.
Looking at going a step further with the Polo tho due to the fact that once i get my ass into gear and get APR Map ill be running 150kw so need something that gets the power to the ground. I have found 2 options at the moment the KW veriant 3 coilover made by there race dept, or a PSS9 Bilstien coilover both are around the same price. What do you guys think ??? any info at all would be sweet cheers Rob

[shaneth]

Do you mind if i ask how much you have been quoted for these as i have been meaning to do some research about them as well.

[PoloGTi]

Hey ok KW v3s are instock at Imotive i think they are around 3k Bilstein Pss9s are around 3.5k and an 8 week wait to get to Aus both are 3 way adjustable its just personal choice really i still have not decided, waiting to see what Harding performance use on there project Polo.

[Bug_racer]

Bilstein are not complete 3 way adjustable . The rebound and compression are adjusted together . KW is adjusted seperate . Also KW is stainless steel where Im pretty sure bilstein is galvanised .

[shaneth]

What about strut braces is there anything available for the Polo gti. I saw a Seat front strut brace put on a diesel 9n polo overseas http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=1234971not sure how it worked. What about front and rear sway bars????
Sorry PoloGTi if i have hijacked your thread ill make a new one if you like just thought i would keep it all under suspension.

[PoloGTi]

Its all good better off being in one place then every one can see. umm looked into it a little cant find anything as of yet waiting to see what comes out if anything does in the way of sway bars ect, If you find anything can you let me know as i am keen to get some bits aswell.

[shaneth]

Well i got a message from the guy in the link i posted abouve about the strut brace:-

my strut brace is off the 6L Seat Ibiza. The part number is 6L0 071 710. I ordered it from a Seat dealer here but as far as I know you don't get Seat's there do you? One warning about the brace though, it fits my diesel fine but the position of the ECU on FSi engines prevents the brace to be fitted. I don't know the layout of the 1.8T engine bay so I cannot comment on the possibility of a problem. Sorry I cannot be any more help, but I would love to see your GTi when you get it

Now my question is, where is the ecu in the polo? My background is from doing up corolla's (dont laugh) and there ecu is inside on transmission tunnel.
You people with gti whats your thoughts? Is he right?

[PoloGTi]

Air induction side behind the air box think it is in the way.

[BLKMJC]

I've heard good things about both, but more good about KW.

Its also a bit cheaper, more adjustable and SS.

Are you going to be tracking the car often? You might find that such an advanced coilover will be wasted if your not on the track at least once a month. Stage 2 could suffice for the occasional sprint.

BLKMJC

[gtimk5]

Yes. It would be very easy to make the Polo too stiff and uncomfortable for around the roads. Careful Rob!:)

[PoloGTi]

Yeah not rushing into it at all waiting to see what other ppl do first lol o well.

[GTIJNR]

ah, i like dat KW, will do some more research as well, share some info if u guys find something lol. But i think i'll go for tyres b4 susp...

[PoloGTi]

Hang about for another month or 2 whiteline is about to relase a sway bar package of the polo. A mate in SYD has a polo which whiteline are doing R&D on and he just had a test font and rear sway bar fitted and says it is so much better turns in alot better. Hope to have some spy pics soon as soon as i get them ill post. His car already has a set of KW v3 coils and a GIAC chip.
They are also looking into rear shims, strut tower braces and springs i balive.

[shaneth]

Would be very interested in the front strut brace. I know it used to make a big difference on the old corolla's from my last forum. Will be interesting to see what it would do to the polo. Is whiteline doing a suspension kit as well.

[PoloGTi]

Strut brace may make a littel diferance but not sure a huge diferance??? will be be good to see tho.
Not sure if u would uprate the front sway bar alone i know this may course more under steer and if u go the rear alone u may get lift off over steer. Front and rear would be best to keep the car balanced. Suspension kit Not sure i would think so. sorry lol i am confused its late

[VWindahouse]

Any updates on available strut braces?

[shaneth]

im working on it should know after england starts there working week so tomorrow night.

[VWindahouse]

im working on it should know after england starts there working week so tomorrow night.

Hey mate, any luck? :)

[shaneth]

not yet but should over night. I already have a price for one shipped just tryinmg to find out if a group buy is possible. ill let you know when i hear something.

[VWindahouse]

not yet but should over night. I already have a price for one shipped just tryinmg to find out if a group buy is possible. ill let you know when i hear something.


Cheers mate. Are you getting a quote for both front and rear braces?

[PoloGTi]

Hey guys Does any one on here have an H&R cup kit on there GTI at all?

[Flaps]

I believe Glide_GTI does.

[PoloGTi]

Thankyou :) . Would love to know how they feel and what they r worth.

[PoloGTi]

Hey guy just found some info on Koni FSD shox and Eibach springs have a read at the bottom of the page. http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?id=445966

[DaveMack]

Hmm ... like the look of those Eibachs. (So many mods I wanna do ... not enough dosh. :()

Dave

[PoloGTi]

Yeah i know the feeling lol still cant decied what suspension to go with.

[gtimk5]

Hey guy just found some info on Koni FSD shox and Eibach springs have a read at the bottom of the page. http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?id=445966

FSD Konis are a more standard type of Koni. Possibly similar to the Koni reds. Koni Sport are the way to go Koni wise.
Cheers, Andrew :)

[Timbo]

I recently fitted Koni Sports (Yellow) with the standard springs. Pretty happy with the results -- damping is much better and, of course, is adjustable (front on the car, rear need to be removed). Certainly improves pitch and squat issues, and makes the car more predictable.

May fit Eibach springs, depending on how I feel :)

[PoloGTi]

Hey guys in my search into suspension I have come accross.
Edited 26th Aug update prices.
KW (Forum member price Cheers Dragan)
V1 (preset Dampnimg) $1820
V2( ADJ Rebound) $2310
V3 (height, dampening and rebound Adj) $2703

Bilstein :
B12 (kit which i am told is B8 shox with eibach springs) Around $1700
B14 (Height Adj shox and spring combo)
Around $2000
B16 PSS9(Height Adj and rate Adj coilovers)
Around $3500

H&R:
Cup kit (shox Spring combo Bilstein inserts)
Around $1550


Koni:
Yellow (shox Adj)


As i find out more info ill keep adding gives every one a good chance to see whats out there and costs.

[VWindahouse]

Nice research mate! Interesting to find out how much the KWs are.

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.
I've got the KW V3's, there hot.

[PoloGTi]

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/vwwater_inmotive/inmotive.htm
Hey guys inmotive offering good prices on kw added them on the last page cheers rob.

[evorobin]

Hoyhoy.
I've got the KW V3's, they're hot.

Fair play. No half measures :)

[DaveMack]

Hoyhoy.
I've got the KW V3's, there hot.

Eddy, Mate. I must come down again and go for a run in yours ... feel the suspension goodness. :)

Dave

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.
Anytime Dave, sorry you didn't have a run yesterday. But things were a bit busy around the place hey.

[PeterHBne]

Hey Timbo - are you still running Koni adjustables?

What do you think of them?

[MACCAA]

Hey Timbo - are you still running Koni adjustables?

What do you think of them?


Er- see earlier reply from Timbo..........

[PeterHBne]

Given the passing of time and the wisdom gained in this time through experience, what do you think of them?

[Timbo]

Very happy with them, although I'll admit I've not yet changed the setting on the rears. Haven't moved to Eibach's and probably won't. IMO, the big issue with the stock Polo GTI suspension is the damping, and the adjustable Konis means you can get over that. Feels much more controlled.

[PeterHBne]

Hey Timbo,

You need to clear some space apparently - no more P.M's for you!

Can you tell me what you paid for the Koni's (P.M if u wish)?

I had Koni adjustables on my old Charade and they were great.

I'm assuming you have the little white 'knob' to adjust the fronts?

[Blitzen]

Hey guys in my search into suspension I have come accross.
Edited 26th Aug update prices.
KW (Forum member price Cheers Dragan)
V1 (preset Dampnimg) $1820
V2( ADJ Rebound) $2310
V3 (height, dampening and rebound Adj) $2703

Bilstein :
B12 (kit which i am told is B8 shox with eibach springs) Around $1700
B14 (Height Adj shox and spring combo)
Around $2000
B16 PSS9(Height Adj and rate Adj coilovers)
Around $3500

H&R:
Cup kit (shox Spring combo Bilstein inserts)
Around $1550


Koni:
Yellow (shox Adj)


As i find out more info ill keep adding gives every one a good chance to see whats out there and costs.

Hey guy, I'm bringing up an old thread, but I'm heading down to Sydney next week, and I'm doing a bit of shopping for my car. I'm looking at getting KW springs off Dragan, but I don't know his number (I have spoken to him before, and have since lost his number), and where his shop is, and I was wondering if any of you guys might be able to help me out.:?

Cheers for your time...

[DaveMack]

Good man! This is the sort of information we need. :)

Cheers,
Dave

[HAR80N]

Anyone In Need Of Some Shocks And Springs http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23710&stc=1

[Euromy]

Anyone In Need Of Some Shocks And Springs

These still available?
Mainly looking for springs but if both aren't to dear I might jump for it depending on how broke I am in the coming weeks :)