New tyres....

[seadog]

Just had some new tyres fitted to our van, Pirelli Scorpion "All Terrain plus" 235/65/R17 108H
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[seadog]

Before and after.....
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[Rebuild]

chunky!!

[The_Hawk]

Do you go places that warrant these?
Do they perform better?
What's road noise like compared to the OEM's?

Also... V-UU... nice :D

[Sunny43.5]

As long as they don't rumble on the bitumen they should be able to handle almost any terrain.

[Bryn23]

I like that tread pattern, hopefully you can get out and see how they handle.

That Pure Grey is the bomb

[seadog]

Do you go places that warrant these?
Do they perform better?
What's road noise like compared to the OEM's?

Also... V-UU... nice :D

Yes our number plate is a bit of fun...thanks... and we will definitely be going places to warrant the tyres, we used to get to all sorts of "off the beaten path" places in our old Transporter - and as the new one is 4motion we'll certainly be getting to some remote areas, we love camping away from the crowds.

[seadog]

I like that tread pattern, hopefully you can get out and see how they handle.

That Pure Grey is the bomb

Thanks Bryn... so far they seem to handle our 5 kilometre range limit very well ... heh heh heh :rolleyes:

[seadog]

As long as they don't rumble on the bitumen they should be able to handle almost any terrain.

They are a little bit noisier than the OEMs - but it's very slight... and we've tried this brand in some mud & slush in Switzerland (on our god-daughters van) so we know they perform very well... we drove into farmers snowy fields to pick up base-jumpers and I was amazed how much grip they had.
We're looking forward to using them when we finally get out of damn lockdowns... arghhh :mad:

[seadog]

And now I have these sitting in my carport, I'll advertise them in the for-sale section - if anyone's looking for some OEM tyres give me a PM.

cheers
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[cgielectrical]

How much were your new tyres? How do you feel about them now you've had them for a while? Does your van suffer from the insides of the rear tyres wearing before the rest of the tread?

I'm about to post, asking about adjusting the camber of the rear of my van as it suffers from that inside wearing as mentioned above. apparently, the rear camber isn't adjustable. (but I'm thinking, there must be a way to add a spacer to achieve the required adjustment)

[Tig-uan]

I thought that it is illegal to install tyre size that changes the wheel radius by more than 7mm? (not that I care, just trying to ascertain if I am understanding the rules correctly).

[Sunny43.5]

I,ll bet half the cars on the road don,t have the correct diameter anyway , like you I,m not concerened as long as I,m not getting speeding tickets . Funnily enough I have been stopped a number of times for RBT etc and no one has even mentioned the fact that my trusty old T5 work van has Commodore Crewman mags on it as they fit perfectly on the stud pattern and only need a small hub ring . One time when I was out towards the northwest of Brisbane I saw the Qld Transport Safety inspectors doing roadside testing of vehicles and I got pulled in for a check , the officer did a thorough check of lights brakes tyres etc . When he was finished like a fool I asked him how come he didn,t ping me for the Holden Mags as they clearly had the lion symbol in the centre , he told me that as long as they didn,t stick out past the guards and weren't bald it was fine . I thanked him nicely and drove off smiling .

[neesonl602]

how's the fuel economy after changing the tyres?

[heyasam]

235 65 17 a legal size in nsw to my understanding unless you start raising the van as well

[Tig-uan]

235 65 17 a legal size in nsw to my understanding unless you start raising the van as well

Would you have some reference to confirm this? I do not see how this could be so, because the side wall hight difference between 235/65 and the factory 235/55 is 23mm, which is way more than the 7mm mentioned int he rules.

[seadog]

The tyres are VERY quiet... due to lockdown :facepalm:...haven't driven the van for quite a while !!! so I'll report back when I'm able to go more than 10kms from home. I've done more kms on my new e-bike than in the van !!!!!
The original tyres (one brand new and four with about 150 kilometres on them) are for sale... $100 each, pickup in metro Melbourne.
Goodyear Cargo Vector 215/60 R17C M+S

[heyasam]

Hey @Tig-uan for example 75mm Lifts Now Legal In NSW | Loaded 4X4 (https://loaded4x4.com.au/75mm-lifts-now-legal-in-nsw/) makes reference to the rules. Sorry haven't looked closely for a while. Maybe I got my math wrong and 235/65/17 + a 2 inch lift would be ok

[bane0020]

hey mate, what you are referencing is the tyre diameter can not be more than 7% increase on the largest tyre diameter of the place card, not 7mm specifically

[Foxpuppet]

https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/RMS-Guideline-for-alternative-wheels-and-tyres-Vehicle-Standards-Information-No-9-November-2003.pdf

Just been researching this again for my Crafter.

7% is the limit


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[Guest001]

I thought that it is illegal to install tyre size that changes the wheel radius by more than 7mm? (not that I care, just trying to ascertain if I am understanding the rules correctly).

No you arent the rules state you may not increase or decrease the DIAMETER by certain amounts

[Guest001]

Hey @Tig-uan for example 75mm Lifts Now Legal In NSW | Loaded 4X4 (https://loaded4x4.com.au/75mm-lifts-now-legal-in-nsw/) makes reference to the rules. Sorry haven't looked closely for a while. Maybe I got my math wrong and 235/65/17 + a 2 inch lift would be ok

Not sure if its still the same but used to be a larger tyre OR a lift but not both Happy to be corrected

[Foxpuppet]

Not sure if its still the same but used to be a larger tyre OR a lift but not both Happy to be corrected

That link says both are possible but must not exceed 75mm total lift ie:

50mm suspension lift plus 25mm tyre lift
Or
25mm suspension lift plus 50mm tyre lift

Can’t both be 50mm


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[heyasam]

I think this is the important bit :

Modifications to the ride height up to 75mm that incorporate a maximum change in the suspension of 50mm, and/or an increase in the diameter of the wheel and tyre combination of up to 50mm

From here
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/RMS-infosheet-light-vehicle-modifications-manual-suspension-and-ride-height.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwie3ILPtIL0AhWMwjgGHf4zAr4QFnoECAoQAg&usg=AOvVaw0MB3S-wG5RrXzJ7eknnVTS

Can someone confirm the standard raised king springs are 2 inch / 50mm?

Then the king springs, which another thread suggests work with factory shocks, as well as 235 65 17, which fit deflated in the spare wheel well, seems the cheapest legal path to go down, or up per se, and is what I've been planning to do. Maybe air suspension one day would be nice though if I can justify the cost.

[flanderosa2]

Curious to know how these tyres are going.
I'm trying to find a better wearing tyre that the Yoyo that have given my less than 15000km.
Would appreciate your advice.
cheers
Kendall

[hoddy]

I reckon the best way to go is to increase tyre size to 60 profile, rather than the much larger 65 profile - ie 235/60/17
• fits in spare well inflated
• speedo is pretty much bang on accurate (over-reads just slightly).

Am currently running cooper AT’s in this size and they should last long time (especially compared to the Yokohama’s that I was using).