Tyres

[Newair]

So for anyone who may be interested, the following is a summary of my tyre life.
The car is a MY2017 R-Line with a sunroof. Sedan. Purchased new on about the 17 July 2017. Current Ks 106000
All km are approx
At 33000 replaced original Conti tyres with Yokohama’s.
At 31000 replaced the Yoki’s with Falken’s.
In the next 10000 the Falken’s will be replaced giving the Falken’s the best run on a mileage basis (42000ks +). I’ll probably go with Falken’s again but will look at Coopers too. Tyre pressure run at 40psi in summer & 42psi in winter. Tyres rotated at every 10,000k
Performance wise I think the Conti’s & Yoki’s grip better but not so much better than the Falken’s to justify the addition cost. That’s my 2 cents worth anyway!


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[Foxpuppet]

Nice post but Can you tweak the numbers?


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[Rocket36]

Contis are very noisy on my car. Can't wait to replace them. Looking at the Bridgestone Turanza ER33 - used it before and love it!

[doc_777]

My Alltrack Wolfsburg has Pirelli Cinturato P7’s, and my wife’s comfortline has the same tyre (obviously in a different size). These are the ones with the ‘seal inside’ goo. Am very happy with them and at this stage have no reason to change to something else. The ‘seal inside’ proved its worth recently when my wife’s car picked up a puncture. It lost a little pressure (enough to set off the pressure loss warning system), but when I removed the screw that caused the puncture, there was no further pressure loss. I still repaired the hole with a plug (because I’m old skool), but I was pleased that athe tyre was not damaged because the goo prevented further pressure loss.

[Newair]

Nice post but Can you tweak the numbers?


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In what way?


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[Foxpuppet]

In what way?


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Check your original post, your km don’t make sense.


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[dArK5HaD0w]

Check your original post, your km don’t make sense.


Wat......he drove backwards for 2000 kms after he got the Yokohamas!!!!!

Hehehehe

[trojon]

Did 33000 on Contis from new.
Did 31000 on Yokohamas (total odometer reading was therefore 64000)
Did 42000 on Falkens (total odometer reading now 106000).

[Hillbilly]

So for anyone who may be interested, the following is a summary of my tyre life.
The car is a MY2017 R-Line with a sunroof. Sedan. Purchased new on about the 17 July 2017. Current Ks 106000
All km are approx
At 33000 replaced original Conti tyres with Yokohama’s.
At 31000 replaced the Yoki’s with Falken’s.
In the next 10000 the Falken’s will be replaced giving the Falken’s the best run on a mileage basis (42000ks +). I’ll probably go with Falken’s again but will look at Coopers too. Tyre pressure run at 40psi in summer & 42psi in winter. Tyres rotated at every 10,000k
Performance wise I think the Conti’s & Yoki’s grip better but not so much better than the Falken’s to justify the addition cost. That’s my 2 cents worth anyway!


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What you were thinking and what you wrote are not the same Evey one took it that the time of change was the odo reading not the distance traveled which would have read
At 31000
At 64000
At 105000

[Newair]

Ha ha.
I see your point - let me correct
So after a further 31000ks (or at 64000ks) went to the Yokis. It looks like the Falken’s will do 40000ks +


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[Newair]

Yeah - I know. Let’s put it down to brain fade due to the heat or Christmas hangover


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[ylzhao]

Mine front 2 replaced at 22k due to no rotation ever since new. Having Kumho now.

[Foxpuppet]

Mine front 2 replaced at 22k due to no rotation ever since new. Having Kumho now.

Which Kumho?


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[rave75]

I replaced both the front tyres at 40k km due to bulging on one of them & rear tyres are still unchanged. I never rotate my tyres, should I?

[Kowalski]

Not too sure about Coopers on a car like this. I know they make an excellent off road tyre, tough sidewalls and durable carcass. They last a long time too but this is largely due to very deep tread depth and hard wearing compound. Great features in an off road tyre but not so great in a car designed to perform and handle like a late model Passat.

[Transporter]

I have Cooper tyres on our Touareg and 2 Tiguans. On the Touareg the tread is only 1mm deeper than it was on Michelins. The CS5 Coopers on Tiguans have the same tread depth when new as Hankook tyres had. :?
Great tyres Coopers, good handling, quiet and long lasting.

[Newair]

Further to the discussion - I changed the Falkens out at 117500km. They gave me 52000ks. By the end they were a bit greasy in the wet. I decided to try the Coopers & they are CS5 Ultra Touring 235/45R18. So far have done 1000 kms - nice & quiet hold the road well. I’m running them @ 40PSI in the warmer months & will up this to 42PSI when it’s cold. Daytime temp under 17*c.


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[Kachingg]

Running Hankook Ventis V12 235/35/19 on my diesel golf alltrack with 121kw and 370nm at the wheels so far i am on 37500ks

I have rotated the fronts to the back at 30k i think i should get 42 to 45k out of the set before needing to get new ones quite happy with that tire life as i do give it a bit :)

I run them at 36psi

[Newair]

Running Hankook Ventis V12 235/35/19 on my diesel golf alltrack with 121kw and 370nm at the wheels so far i am on 37500ks

I have rotated the fronts to the back at 30k i think i should get 42 to 45k out of the set before needing to get new ones quite happy with that tire life as i do give it a bit :)

I run them at 36psi

Sounds reasonable


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[Wynnston]

I replaced the P7's @ 55k kms. Now run 245 wide tyres instead of 235 in PS4's

For grip, they are a huge improvement over the P7's, though they do ride a little rougher.

[doc_777]

I replaced the P7's @ 55k kms. Now run 245 wide tyres instead of 235 in PS4's

For grip, they are a huge improvement over the P7's, though they do ride a little rougher.

what brand/model did you go with?

i reckon both my wife’s and my car will be due for hoops within 10k km. Hers are 215/55R17, mine are 245/40R19. Both standard P7 at the moment, considering options.

[Newair]

Mastercraft are worth a look at. They are an American tyre. Good road handling & you should get upwards of 60ks distance. Not expensive either.


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[Wynnston]

what brand/model did you go with?

i reckon both my wife’s and my car will be due for hoops within 10k km. Hers are 215/55R17, mine are 245/40R19. Both standard P7 at the moment, considering options.

Michelin Pilot Sport 4.

[doc_777]

Michelin Pilot Sport 4.

cheers mate, thanks. That’s one that was on my shortlist. Would be interested in your thoughts on them with regard to noise

[Jimi]

What are the pros and cons of going for PS4s in 245 rather than 235, which I understand is what the rim is intended for?

Actually most interested in negatives of the 245s - would they do anything weird on the standard Verona rims other than a negligible increase in road noise?

I’ve always felt as though the 235s are a fraction underdone (particularly considering a Tiguan R Line has 255s) but don’t want to fork out thousands for new wheels

[doc_777]

I don’t know the comparative rim sizes, but my Alltrack wolf has 245’s - I reckon they’re juuuuust right

[Wynnston]

What are the pros and cons of going for PS4s in 245 rather than 235, which I understand is what the rim is intended for?

Actually most interested in negatives of the 245s - would they do anything weird on the standard Verona rims other than a negligible increase in road noise?

I’ve always felt as though the 235s are a fraction underdone (particularly considering a Tiguan R Line has 255s) but don’t want to fork out thousands for new wheels

Ride is slightly more twitchy, but that's because of the sidewall build on the PS4's compared to the P7's. They do balloon out ever so slightly but they don't look bad, they fit the rim within spec. I'd have to say road noise is a lot less. Grip is night and day, it is so much better with the PS4's, I feel it improved the handling of the car significantly. 245's will also be a lot cheaper as the 235's are an odd configuration and they don't make as many.

[Just_Westy]

Hey doc how do you think we would go with 245 x 45 x 19 on our cars instead of 40 series. Cheers

[Just_Westy]

I don’t know the comparative rim sizes, but my Alltrack wolf has 245’s - I reckon they’re juuuuust right

The Wolfie's rims are 19 x 8

[Jimi]

Thanks Wynnston, that’s really good info

[doc_777]

Hey doc how do you think we would go with 245 x 45 x 19 on our cars instead of 40 series. Cheers

I reckon you’d visually see a difference, but other than that it’d be all but indifferent - the car’s got the torque to haul the taller tyre. If I was going to tweak the sizes though, i’d go for 255/40r19. Personally however, i’m sticking with 245/40

[toastoflondon99]

Thanks guys this is awesome info - and well timed for me!

I've got a passat rline wagon 2017 and need to replace the tyres so thinking 245/40 r19 Michelin pilot sport 4 s.

Cheapest I've found in Brisbane is $385 with Jax. Does this sound about the right price?

There is Tempe tyres down in Sydney doing them for $347 so I'll try to get them price matched.

[Wynnston]

350-400 a corner depending on promotional activity anf whether its fitted/balanced is about right

[maddykartik]

What would be the quietest tyre (least road noise) for a B8 MY18 passat 132TSI?
generally do weekend drives, as i dont drive to work - mostly a highway cruiser.

no matter what tyre, does driving on coarse chip road is too loud?
i understand it will be louder, but i feel its higher that what i originally thought would be on a coarse chip road@highway speeds.

Not sure if my passat isnt as tight as others on rubber seals.

i do hear a lot of wind noise in smooth highways.

Dealership gives the usual BS like, "its how it is" , "not hearing anything abnormal" etc.

i am on a factory fitted Pirelli. Done around 7k and rotated once at 5k.

On a side note, when the car is stationary & idling, do you hear engine noise?
I do now, after i switched to 98+ from 7-11 (post 2 tank fulls).
Previously it was BP 98+.

Will try to measure the dB to share here, for some quantitative assessment.

[doc_777]

Check your tyre pressures - low pressures will have higher noise levels. Aussie coarse chip roads are widely acknowledged in the international tyre industry to be some of the loudest sealed highway surfaces in the world.

P7 cinturato’s are not what I would call a quiet tyre, but they are not known for being overly loud either.

Road and wind noise is virtually impossible to quantify because there are so many impacting factors.

[rave75]

What would be the quietest tyre (least road noise) for a B8 MY18 passat 132TSI?


Michelin PS4s is quieter than the factory P7

[Wynnston]

Michelin PS4s is quieter than the factory P7

Yeah, PS4's are about the same noise wise, maybe a tad quieter. A shedload lighter as they don't have that seal inside stuff in them like the P7 does.

[ope126]

what brand/model did you go with?

i reckon both my wife’s and my car will be due for hoops within 10k km. Hers are 215/55R17, mine are 245/40R19. Both standard P7 at the moment, considering options.

So I just bought a set (x4) of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 (Made In Germany) 245/40 R19 98Y XL (up from 235/40 R19).
Fresh stock, Week 38 2018.

I haven't put them on yet as I am waiting until Mid June before we go on a Road Trip to Canberra and the Alpine Region...

PM if you are interested to know where I got them, as I got an excellent price!!!

[gandv]

Has anyone any further comments on tyre noise, that is what good tyres are quiet, alternatively which are noisy to avoid.

One comment from https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/customavatars/avatar11774_1.gif (https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/members/rocket36/) Rocket36 (https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/members/rocket36/) above that Conti's were noisy - which Conti's were they. How did the Turanza ER33 go? Anyone else with some good info?