Sparkplugs

[archangel_7]

Does anyone know where I can find out what kind of plugs the GTI polo takes? I took the old ones out and saw there was no code for them just the VW AUDI symbols. Defiantly don’t want to get them from the dealer as they would be 5 times more expensive I would be guessing.

[advantra1]

Your user manual will tell hou what type you need.

My experience with dealers is that they charge no more than any one else, why don't you do some work yourself and ring them and find out.

cheers

[kelvniii]

For the sparkplugs i think they are all the same in 1.8T~

So... here u go~
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=450388&postid=7015573#7015573

[Mischa]

Your user manual will tell hou what type you need.

My experience with dealers is that they charge no more than any one else, why don't you do some work yourself and ring them and find out.

cheers

its no secret that dealers are rip-off merchants. and why would the manual tell you what spark plugs you need? wouldnt it only tell you how to operate the windscreen wipers etc?

anyway to the OP give brian patterson at gti imports a call. he mainly supplies workshops but sells to the public too. his number is 96531114.

[archangel_7]

Thanks mischa I shall give him a call tomorrow.....:) :D

[ope126]

Just for reference...

I recentley changed mine with the following;

- NGK (BKUR6ET)

The ones that were taken out of the car were; BOSCH (F7LTCR)

Glenn

[Veee1.8t]

need to purchase spark plugs tomorrow, what are the reccomended prices?

[Kai]

3.99 for NGK standards.
19.99 for NGK iridiums.

Try and match up an iridium plug.

[Veee1.8t]

is that from the stealership?

[Veee1.8t]

guys im still struggling to find the correct spark plug...i went out and bought the ones suggested - NGK (BKUR6ET)...and that does not match the one that came out of the car.....the part number on the sparkplug that came out of the car was PFR6Q.....

anyone whose gone out and bought plugs any help would be fkn awesome...

btw went to the dealership to get them and they quoted me $140 for 4

[Blitzen]

guys im still struggling to find the correct spark plug...i went out and bought the ones suggested - NGK (BKUR6ET)...and that does not match the one that came out of the car.....the part number on the sparkplug that came out of the car was PFR6Q.....

anyone whose gone out and bought plugs any help would be fkn awesome...

btw went to the dealership to get them and they quoted me $140 for 4

On the dealership, tell them to pull their head in...Go to Repco, Autopro, or Autobahn.
That plug(BKUR6ET) is what is recommended for the VW 1.8T engine in the NGK catalogue. PFR6Q is probably another brands part number.


Beru's part number is 14FGH-DTUR.
Denso's part number is K20PBR.
Torch's part number is K6TJC.

[Veee1.8t]

aparently that was the part number on the NGK plug when they took it out?

did you replace yours with the one that was reccomended?

[ope126]

guys im still struggling to find the correct spark plug...i went out and bought the ones suggested - NGK (BKUR6ET)...and that does not match the one that came out of the car.....the part number on the sparkplug that came out of the car was PFR6Q.....

anyone whose gone out and bought plugs any help would be fkn awesome...

btw went to the dealership to get them and they quoted me $140 for 4

Ok, I put NGK BKUR6ET Plugs in my 1.8T (AGU)

After searching, this is what I found;

- NGK BKUR6ET (no listing for Polo 1.8T)
- Bosch FR7DPP33 (no listing for Polo 1.8T)
- Denso K20PBRS10 (no listing for Polo 1.8T)

Looked up a US website and for the American Market (Golf / Jetta 1.8T) the OEM Replacement Plug is what you took out; NGK PFR6Q

I would call NGK in OZ or send them an email and see what they come up with as a cross reference for this plug.
Do places like autObarn sell NGK PFR6Q?

Keep us up to date!

Glenn

[Veee1.8t]

yes....i randomly searched the NGK site and looked at the audi a3 1.8t and they recoment the NGKPFR6Q......

arnt the a3 1.8T ...GOLF 1.8t and polo 1.8t all the same engine?

anyways i will follow up for you guys tomorrow...

[ope126]

yes....i randomly searched the NGK site and looked at the audi a3 1.8t and they recoment the NGKPFR6Q......

arnt the a3 1.8T ...GOLF 1.8t and polo 1.8t all the same engine?

anyways i will follow up for you guys tomorrow...

No, I think from 2001 the Audi used DBW. Thus a different engine code. AMM, AWM etc. etc.

All VW GTI's (1.8T) use AGU engines (Throttle Cable).

[ope126]

See if you can take the others back and then get the NGK PFR6Q, as they are obviously available here in OZ.

[The_Hawk]

btw went to the dealership to get them and they quoted me $140 for 4

Not all that surprising from the stealers, the NGK part for the VR6 is a group 6 plug and will set you back about $12 from AutoPro, Supercheap etc etc, the VW boxed part is the same plug and I have been quoted between $30 and $40 per plug, so your $35 seems about normal. Guess what I bought.

[Flipper Dog]

This is from the factory manual in reference to spark plugs.
Spark plug test data
Engine codes BJX
Firing order 1-3-4-2
Spark plugs → Note
VW/Audi 101,000,063 AA
Manufacturer's designation PFR 6 Q
Electrode gap max. 0.8 mm
Torque setting 30 Nm
Change interval 60,000 km

[blackbetty]

thought you might find it useful to see this chart:

http://www.ngkspark.com.au/sparkplug.php#

i guess if you find the correct plug for the GTI in the NGK catalog then you can cross reference the measurements etc with other brands.

[higuma]

I've recently replaced my sparkers.

I found PFR6Q to be NGK's OEM part number.

For aftermarket NGK equivalent, lookout for BKUR6ET (Platinum I think) or BKR6E-IX (NGK Iridiums).

[Bubu]

Im bringing up an old thread here but I have something to add.

The time has come to change plugs and I did some searching on here and found some of the info is incorrect.

The correct plug for the Polo GTI is not BKUR6ET. The correct plugs is as it states in the manual PFR6Q, its not an OEM number and the BKUR6ET are not equivalent. You can buy the PFR6Q in Aus. and its also the recommended plug for the Audi A3 1.8T. I just bought some from Pep's Auto (Pep's Auto Spares - About Pep's Auto Spares (http://www.peps.com.au/modules/wfchannel/)) for $80 for the set of 4, still cheaper than the dealers. You can also get it from these guys:

https://www.americanautos.com.au/cgi-bin/fccgi.exe?w3exec=aap.control&formname=groups&newform=groups&option=080r;2&session=15122028509207

As you can see from the photo (borrowed from dodge; thanks) the two are not the same the PFR6Q are a couple of millimeters longer than the BKUR6ET.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2009/12/IMG_0372-1.jpg

[firdausasri]

Hi Guys,

Just a tip. For those who've chipped your ECU, better go for a range colder plugs. In my experience, NGK BKR7E copper is the best bang for buck :)

[instigator]

best plugs you can use in a remapped GTI are those from a audi RS2.
just 1 degree colder and fit perfect.
they are specially designed for a RS2, so you might have problems finding them.
not the cheapest also, but quality has its price...

my 2 cents:P

[Bubu]

Well I changed the sparkplugs that came in the car when I bought it new.

After almost 50,000 kms (yes, I know plugs are supposed to be changed at 60,000kms) of which about 45,000 was done with the car chipped (by APR) I think the plugs look good compared to the new ones. The tip of the plug is slightly worn but the colouring indicates its running well.

So my opinion is that there is no need to go for colder plugs.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/04/SparkPlugs-1.jpg

[insanekiwi]

I found exactly the same. I went for factory plugs.


Well I changed the sparkplugs that came in the car when I bought it new.

After almost 50,000 kms (yes, I know plugs are supposed to be changed at 60,000kms) of which about 45,000 was done with the car chipped (by APR) I think the plugs look good compared to the new ones. The tip of the plug is slightly worn but the colouring indicates its running well.

So my opinion is that there is no need to go for colder plugs.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/04/SparkPlugs-1.jpg

[instigator]

it not that you need to have it,
it just will be safer to run in.

you have more boost, so also creating more heat,
the spark plugs will be getting to hot also.
the ignition tip can melt.
but it's not that it will melt, in most cases, there will be no problems.

[noone]

So my opinion is that there is no need to go for colder plugs.

Is that how you know? Would cooler plugs add no benefit as your current ones look ok? I don't know much about spark plugs, but that sounds like an odd way to decide which plugs to use...

Think I'm running the 7's

[nikanasz]

my pog has NGK BKR7E-IX in her combustion chamber. one range colder, of course.

i'll post some pics of the factory installed plugs when i get home

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5572/dscn0536o.th.jpg (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/dscn0536o.jpg/) http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5001/dscn0537dk.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/dscn0537dk.jpg/)

[Bubu]

Is that how you know? Would cooler plugs add no benefit as your current ones look ok? I don't know much about spark plugs, but that sounds like an odd way to decide which plugs to use...

Think I'm running the 7's

The colour and condition of the plugs tell you how your engine is running and if there are any problems. Mechanics have been using this method for years. Back then the only electronics under the bonnet were the battery and ignition.

Colder plugs would be required if your engine is running hotter and basically melting the sparkplug. The fact that the colour and tip of the plug looks good indicates to me that the engine is running fine. Although there is slight wear on the tip of the plug in the photo I posted earlier, it was the worst one out of the 4 and to me its an acceptable amount of wear. So to answer your question, there is no benefit of running a colder plug if the engine is running fine. The only reason you should change heat range in plugs is if there is a problem with the current ones. But keep in mind that unhealthy plugs usually indicates other engine problems (eg. rich mixture, too much timing, detonation, low compression, weak ignition, etc etc.).
Taking into account the fact that plugs that are too hot can cause detonation, you will probably find that manufacturers will choose a plug for the engine that can handle the extreme end of things without failing due to heat.

I forget to mention in earlier post that there is also an 'upgrade' sparkplug for the GTI. Its the IFR6Q-G, not sure if you can get those here in Oz, its listed on the NGK website from UK. NGK Partfinder for Cars & Light Commercial Vehicles (http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/car_commercial_extra.php?id=9247)

[DeanB]

I forget to mention in earlier post that there is also an 'upgrade' sparkplug for the GTI. Its the IFR6Q-G, not sure if you can get those here in Oz, its listed on the NGK website from UK. NGK Partfinder for Cars & Light Commercial Vehicles (http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/car_commercial_extra.php?id=9247)

Iridium plugs nice :)