Battery / Electrical Problems

[Vexed]

Hi guys,

This morning my MY17 Superb had a flat battery. The car wouldn't start at all. The Maxidot said the battery is low on charge.
When I chekced the battery, it was hot!

I called NRMA roadside assistance, the battery specialist showed up, jump started the car, and left his device connect to the battery for 5 minutes, to see if it will charge properly. The battery got really hot and started fuming. (I couldn't tell where the fumes are comimg, either from the battery or somewhere behind the battery but very close).

He said the battery is diffective, and asked me not to drive as it could ignite (or explode).

I have put the car on a flatbed and dropped ot at the dealership.

What could cause this? Is it just a faulty battery?

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[Umai Naa!!]

That's unusual, but yes the battery does seem to be faulty.

Good thing you caught it when you did.

[Vexed]

Yeah I guess I was lukcy it didn't catch fire.
I will wait and see what the service centre finds out tomorrow.
I hope they replace it under warranty.

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[Umai Naa!!]

They should do.

I can't remember what battery warranty is on these, whether it's 1 year, or 3.

[Fred Nurk]

Sounds like a dropped cell. One of the 6 cells in the battery dies, and then when the engine runs and charges it, the other 5 cells end up overcharged and start to boil off hdyrogen and oxygen, which is kind of explosive in the right concentrations. Hopefully its a warranty job for you.

[Vexed]

Got the car back today. It was a defective battery and was replaced under warranty :)
This new battery is made in Austria, the old one was made in Korea.

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[dArK5HaD0w]

Phwoah.....that was lucky as it could've been an unhappy ending!!

Interesting u say ur battery was made in Korea. I have an MY17 too - I should check it.

[ope126]

Got the car back today. It was a defective battery and was replaced under warranty :)
This new battery is made in Austria, the old one was made in Korea.

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What brand of battery was it originally, most VAG batteries are Varta / Excide...

And what brand is in the car now (obviously Genuine Skoda)?

[Vexed]

What brand of battery was it originally, most VAG batteries are Varta / Excide...

And what brand is in the car now (obviously Genuine Skoda)?The old one was a Sebang, the new one is genuine Volkswagen battery.

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[ope126]

The old one was a Sebang, the new one is genuine Volkswagen battery.

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Odd that your original battery was a Sebang Brand (Manufactured) original fitment Skoda Battery.
That must be how they cut costs...

Is your new battery a Varta or Excide (Manufactured) battery?

[Vexed]

Odd that your original battery was a Sebang Brand (Manufactured) original fitment Skoda Battery.
That must be how they cut costs...

Is your new battery a Varta or Excide (Manufactured) battery?I can't really tell who the manufacturer is, the battery has tight sleeve around it.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/03/ee29aba29198a2113571d890f1e0d87b-1.jpghttp://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/03/828bdb8a68ddaf6212e42043006d88e3-1.jpg

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[ope126]

Thanks for uploading the images.
A bit hard to tell what he manufacturer of your new battery is (even though it says Volkswagen Original Batterie).

The 000915105EC EFB battery is a fairly small battery, I assume you have a 162TSI?

I am suprised it is an EFB and not an AGM Battery.

Anyway, all under warranty and back on the road, WELL DONE!!!

[Vexed]

Thanks for uploading the images.
A bit hard to tell what he manufacturer of your new battery is (even though it says Volkswagen Original Batterie).

The 000915105EC EFB battery is a fairly small battery, I assume you have a 162TSI?

I am suprised it is an EFB and not an AGM Battery.

Anyway, all under warranty and back on the road, WELL DONE!!!No mine is a 206... After reading about start-stop batteries I also thought it is an AGM battery, but it seems they chose to save some money on that... I wonder what battery is on the Passat R or the Arteon.
By the way, in the future, is it safe to replace an EFB battery with an AGM equivalent?

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[Vexed]

I searched the Varta UK website for the suitable battery for my car, and as you said, they recommended a slightly larger AGM battery.

This one:

570 901 076 | VARTA(R) Batteries (https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-gb/products/varta-silver-dynamic-agm/570-901-076)


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[ope126]

No issues changing to an AGM in the future, however I hope you get a good 5 plus years on this battery!

The main thing is the specs of the battery are the same as what just came out of the car, so all good there!

[Vexed]

No issues changing to an AGM in the future, however I hope you get a good 5 plus years on this battery!

The main thing is the specs of the battery are the same as what just came out of the car, so all good there!Yeah I hope so too... Many thanks for the information.

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[dArK5HaD0w]

checked mine - it has a battery made from Austria.
i got a brand new MY17 162TSi.

strange how u ended up with a korean battery?!?!

[Umai Naa!!]

Could've been replaced at some point prior to delivery, but after it left the production plant.

[Vexed]

No idea... That was the battery I received with the car...

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[dArK5HaD0w]

its interesting looking at the pics.

Vexed's previous Korean battery has the same part number as the Austrian battery currently in my car.
However Vexed's new Austrian battery has a different part number altogether!!
specs-wise, they're all the same at 12V 69Ah 360A DIN 680A - EFB

dark5had0w = 6R0 915 105B (Made in Austria)
Vexed old = 6R0 915 105B (Made in Korea)
Vexed new = 000 915 105 EC (Made in Austria)

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[ope126]

dark5had0w, yours was manufactured by Banner Batteries; Banner Batteries - The Power Company (https://www.bannerbatterien.com/en/Company/The-Power-Company)
Assuming yours is still the original fitment battery.

Vexed new battery is most probably a battery that supersedes the previous part numbers, i.e. the last version.

My only thoughts are that I am surprised that it is still such a small battery on these cars...

[dArK5HaD0w]

dark5had0w, yours was manufactured by Banner Batteries; Banner Batteries - The Power Company (https://www.bannerbatterien.com/en/Company/The-Power-Company)
Assuming yours is still the original fitment battery.

Vexed new battery is most probably a battery that supersedes the previous part numbers, i.e. the last version.

My only thoughts are that I am surprised that it is still such a small battery on these cars...


wat i'm surprised is that we both have an MY17 model, same battery part number, however manufactured at opposite ends of the world!!
mine is Banner - 6R0 915 105 B - Austria
his was Sebang - 6R0 915 105 B - Korea.

with regards to the newer battery, and different part number - yes, most likely one that superceeds the old 6R0 battery.


with regards to the size - my understanding is that the Passat B8 also has the same spec battery.

[ope126]

Now I have a 206TSI also, I thought i would add to this thread with my battery details; Banner - 6R0 915 105 B (Made in Austria)

[formatview321]

Just to add. I have had the battery in a MY18 petrol Tiguan die as well.

The battery was the original battery which was a SeBang 6R0915105B.

My situation was much the same as what is described here. The car would not start. The car would start with a jump start from another vehicle. When the car did start a message appeared saying "Charge battery by driving". Drove the car for ~1hr and left it idling for another 30 mins. Checked the battery with a multimeter while the engine was running and the battery was showing 14v, so I assume nothing wrong with the alternator. Then turned the car off, waiting 20 mins and checked again with a multimeter and the voltage was showing as 12v.

Then connected the battery to a 7 stage 10 amp charger and the battery charger threw an error. This was all on Saturday afternoon. On Sunday removed the battery from the car and took the battery down to Supercheap auto, they tried to test the battery, but their machine said to charge the battery as it was showing 11.2v. They tried charging it as well and their charger also threw an error after 10mins, initially going through the first 5 stages of charging ok.

There has never been an ODB dongle connected, or USB device or something plugged into the cigarette socket that could have acted as a parasitic battery drain, so I can't explain why this has happened.

So looks like the el cheapo Korean battery is a POS. Very disappointed as the car is less than a year and a half old with maybe ~10,000km. Will have to call the dealership on Monday morning and see if this is something covered under warranty.

For comparison in the original OEM Varta battery in my 2007 VW T5 lasted 8 years, replaced it with another Varta and has been going strong for the last few years.

[Transporter]

It’s not that unusual that the battery dies well before 3-4years expected lifespan. I saw even the best brand fail within 12montgs. The factory fitted red top optima in our 2005 JEEP KJ Cherokee died just 1year old, not a big problem just get the dealer to replace it or call VW Assist.

[brad]

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So looks like the el cheapo Korean battery is a POS. Very disappointed as the car is less than a year and a half old with maybe ~10,000km. Will have to call the dealership on Monday morning and see if this is something covered under warranty.


It's warranty. Just call VW Assist and they will come to your house and replace it.

[2009fsi]

The battery in my MY16 206 died just before Xmas. 2.5 years old. I've never had a battery die so quickly, especially when the car has regular long runs at speed.
When I called Skoda Assist, their proxy, Global Assist turned up in less than 30 mins. He had to return to his base in Lidcombe to get a new battery as the factory replacement he had on board he found to be a dud when tested. When he returned, he told me the three Skoda/VW factory batteries at base proved to be 'no good' either. He installed a direct replacement from a name company which he told me was a better battery anyway. It was changed under warranty. I drew the circumstances of change to Thomson Skoda's attention at service. They told me the replacement was fine & in excellent condition.
I get the distinct feeling Skoda knows the factory batteries are inferior quality & prone to die young.

[brad]

I get the distinct feeling Skoda knows the factory batteries are inferior quality & prone to die young.

Surprising, as the Varta batteries that are usually fitted are a quality item.

My factory Varta battery lasted 6+ years. (Nov 2007-Jan 2014).

Current Varta stiil going strong at 5+yrs.

OTOH, My daughter's Honda Accord gets a new battery every 2.5 years as it is too small for the vehicle and associated electrics.

[2009fsi]

Interesting for me too Brad. The original fitted battery which failed was not a Varta. It was a brand I've never seen. I can't rememer what it was. Global Assist mechanic went back to his depot to get the same battery; he said they had three there. On return he told me none of those three were up to spec.
The key point I want to make is, Skoda Assit were terrific, Global Assist equally so in quickly & professionally responding. Their mechanic could have just bunged in another 'factory' battery. Instead he did proper checks & put a first rate replacement in under warranty. I'm used to original factory batteries lasting 7-8 years so very surprised at failure in 2.5 years.
One needs to realize today's cars are overloaded with so much electronics which draw typically 300-350mA when sitting in the garage & demand more for day driving lights, aircons fans & various system & traffic sensors while driving. Çars need more running at speed over longer periods to fully recharge batteries. Sitting in traffic at idle doesn't cut it .

[brad]

I think stop/start is the worst but agree to all of the above.

[Gerrycan]

I hope the stop/start on the Superb is more sophisticated than what I recently experienced on a loan Fabia which was just my third experience of a stop/start equipped vehicle.
Don't get me wrong, the stop and restart worked very efficiently, particularly as it was a manual, but stopping the engine when I had the aircon and fan on high on a 40+ deg day was just ridiculous. First issue was that the fan on high was quite a big drain on the battery and second the aircon cooling matrix soon lost thermal inertia so air in the cabin soon warmed up.
Similar situation at night with headlights on, a big drain on the battery for the duration of the stoppage.
The above and the annoyingly high number of stop/start operations in heavy traffic forced my mechanical sympathy, or in this case 'electrical sympathy' to frequently turn off the function and it was not even my car.
The other thing I am suspicious of is the 'regenerative braking' function, does that mean that recharging the battery after a longish stop does not happen automatically but is deferred to leave room for later braking operation? I attempt to be an economical driver so actually avoid unnecessary use of brakes, so does this mean the battery may be at a lower state than really desirable for longevity?

Regular running down a lead acid battery (even AGM) is always going to shorten its life. Lots of stories across all makes of early failures of expensive batteries with the blame being placed on stop/start operation.

My 2014 1.4tsi manual Octavia does not have stop/start, however sometimes I choose to switch off the ignition when I know that the car will be stationary for a while (and ambient conditions are not too onerous), which means the heavy electrical load items are also turned off. The battery is approaching 5 years old now and still turns the engine over like when new. I also suspect the battery may not be as high spec as fitted in the later stop/start equipped vehicles.

[ope126]

As I am coming up to my 3yr / 45,000kms service I was considering getting a new battery purely just to ensure a few more years of trouble free motoring (let it be known that I do not have any battery issues).

Diesels usually have AGM's here in Australia.
All others are EFB's.

Genuine Replacement Batteries:
OEM: Varta – 000 915 105 FC (EFB+ Start-Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A
OEM: Varta – 000 915 105 CC (AGM Start-Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A
(dimensions mm: 278W x 175L x 190H)

However after reading this thread once again and referring to the ŠKODA Australia Warranty; ŠKODA 5 Year Warranty | Owners | ŠKODA Australia (https://www.skoda.com.au/owners/warranty)

The battery is actually covered for 5yrs...

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[bego9]

Hi, it is time to change battery soon for my MY17 Skoda Superb as well. 75k km already.
Currently the battery is Banner EFB 6Ro 915 105 B 680A

I couldn't find Varta above from user Ope126

Skoda dealer told me $460 to replace the battery but I am still waiting what brand and model that they are going to replace.

I found the following:

Option 1 AGM:
Varta Silver Dynamic AGM 570 901 076 (E39 - 760A)

570 901 076 | Varta Automotive (https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-au/products/varta-silver-dynamic-agm/570-901-076)


Option 2 EFB:
Varta Blue Dynamic EFB 575 500 073 (https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-au/products/varta-blue-dynamic-efb/575-500-073) (E46 - 730A)

575 500 073 | Varta Automotive (https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-au/products/varta-blue-dynamic-efb/575-500-073)

note: Varta says EFB technology "Ideal for start-stop vehicle technologies without regenerative braking technology "

Since Skoda Superb MY17 comes with regenerative braking technology, is that mean I need to use the AGM version?
Is this AGM version safe to use since it is not the same as the original battery EFB version?

Which one that you use to replace the battery for Skoda Superb My17 onwards?

Please let me know and thank you for your feedback.

[vajnorcan]

Hi Bego, which one did you get ? Seems like my battery is about to die as it failed once, shows only 12.2V, but I will first try recharging it. cheers

[vajnorcan]

@ope126 Did you get it replaced by Skoda, if so which service? I have a 2017 206Superb, and the battery died on me last night, jump started and drove around it it was ok, though it's now showing only 12.2V. I've noticed Start/Stop is not engaging anymore so I guess it's low on voltage and soon to die.
Do I have to bring it to Skoda service only or any VW service will change it under the warrant? Cheers

[ope126]

@ope126 Did you get it replaced by Skoda, if so which service? I have a 2017 206Superb, and the battery died on me last night, jump started and drove around it it was ok, though it's now showing only 12.2V. I've noticed Start/Stop is not engaging anymore so I guess it's low on voltage and soon to die.
Do I have to bring it to Skoda service only or any VW service will change it under the warrant? Cheers

Mine has not failed, I just did the research for the off chance I was required to get it replaced.
I am booked tomorrow for my 3yr / 45,000km service at Mt Gravatt ŠKODA, so will see what they say abut the condition of the battery.

If you have called ŠKODA Assist, they will replace with what ever they have in the van I would assume.

Here are the current Genuine Batteries available from VW / ŠKODA Parts;

OEM: Varta – 000 915 105 FC (EFB+ Start-Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A
OEM: Varta – 000 915 105 CC (AGM Start-Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A
(dimensions mm: 278W x 175L x 190H)

Let us know how you go!!!

[vajnorcan]

Mine has not failed, I just did the research for the off chance I was required to get it replaced.
I am booked tomorrow for my 3yr / 45,000km service at Mt Gravatt ŠKODA, so will see what they say abut the condition of the battery.

If you have called ŠKODA Assist, they will replace with what ever they have in the van I would assume.

Here are the current Genuine Batteries available from VW / ŠKODA Parts;

OEM: Varta – 000 915 105 FC (EFB+ Start-Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A
OEM: Varta – 000 915 105 CC (AGM Start-Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A
(dimensions mm: 278W x 175L x 190H)

Let us know how you go!!!

I've called VW Kippa Ring as that the closest VW Group to where I live and it was a short phone call as they said it has to go via Skoda Dealer Service, not VW, which didn't surprise me at all. I will call Skoda Brisbane City and see what they say. Current reading 12.2V is not great and I guess I will be jump starting soon :D

[brad]

I've called VW Kippa Ring as that the closest VW Group to where I live and it was a short phone call as they said it has to go via Skoda Dealer Service, not VW, which didn't surprise me at all.:D
You will never get any assistance from a VW or Audi dealer. They are all totally different BUs in the VAG group.

If you are still under factory warranty then leave the lights on so the battery is dead and ring Skoda Assist and they will replace the battery at your house.

[ope126]

You will never get any assistance from a VW or Audi dealer. They are all totally different BUs in the VAG group.

If you are still under factory warranty then leave the lights on so the battery is dead and ring Skoda Assist and they will replace the battery at your house.

Interesting idea...

[brad]

Interesting idea...

I know of a few people with marginal batteries that were near the end of warranty...

[bego9]

Sorry, im still waiting for dealer 2 to reply.

Dealer 1 recommended to use the same efb version.
No need egm version unless use in cold weather or high usage such as camping.

Dealer 1 cannot tell me the brand that they're going to use.
Cost $460 including installation and reprogramming.

Anyone knows if we buy outside dealer they know how to reprogramming the code? Such as every battery shop or autobarn?

[bego9]

Dealer 2 said AGM or what ever in the spec - cost $473 inc GST. (battery, install and reprogramming).
Use Varta or Skoda approved.

Anyone knows/try before? if we buy outside dealer they know how to reprogramming the code? Such as every battery shop or autobarn?
or better still go through Skoda Dealer?


Edit:
Currently my car doesn't have start stop working because not enough voltage but when I check it has 14v when the engine running so I hope still alright.

[ope126]

Dealer 2 said AGM or what ever in the spec - cost $473 inc GST. (battery, install and reprogramming).
Use Varta or Skoda approved.

Anyone knows/try before? if we buy outside dealer they know how to reprogramming the code? Such as every battery shop or autobarn?
or better still go through Skoda Dealer?


Edit:
Currently my car doesn't have start stop working because not enough voltage but when I check it has 14v when the engine running so I hope still alright.

Pretty sure I have previously replied with Genuine Part Numbers.
They will only replace like for like (EFB / EFB or AGM / AGM).
All Genuine Batteries are "generally" Varta / Banner / Moll / Excide etc.

If you choose to get an aftermarket battery; Century / Varta / Supercharge / Federal / AC Delco etc.
Just get the place you purchased it from to code it to the vehicle.
Then get an AGM if you can.

If however your car is still under warranty, get the dealer / roadside assist to do the replacement.

Simple.

[brad]

Dealer 2 said AGM or what ever in the spec - cost $473 inc GST. (battery, install and reprogramming).
Use Varta or Skoda approved.

Anyone knows/try before? if we buy outside dealer they know how to reprogramming the code? Such as every battery shop or autobarn?
or better still go through Skoda Dealer?


Edit:
Currently my car doesn't have start stop working because not enough voltage but when I check it has 14v when the engine running so I hope still alright.

Ring the shop that you are considering buying from and ask.

edit: PS why do you want start/stop? It kills batteries.

[bego9]

Unfortunately outside warranty. Car 75k km already.
Normally i turn off start stop every time drive the car.

After change battery, i probably will code it to disable start stop.

Tested still 14v when engine is running. Hopefully still last a few more months

[ope126]

Unfortunately outside warranty. Car 75k km already.
Normally i turn off start stop every time drive the car.

After change battery, i probably will code it to disable start stop.

Tested still 14v when engine is running. Hopefully still last a few more months

KMS are irrelevant.

Depending on age of the model, ŠKODA offer an unlimited KMS warranty.

What car do you have? What year is it?

[bego9]

Got the car Nov 2016. My17 skoda superb 162tsi

[ope126]

Got the car Nov 2016. My17 skoda superb 162tsi

5yr / Unlimited KMS Warranty mate...

Battery included!

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[bego9]

Hi, not for my car :( Only 3 yrs warranty.
5 yrs warranty only for cars receiving from 1 January 2017.

[ope126]

I had my (MY17) ŠKODA Superb 206TSI 4x4 in for its 3yr / 45,000km service at Mt Gravatt ŠKODA last week.
Battery tested poorly, so the battery was replaced with genuine Varta 000 915 105 FC (EFB+ Start/Stop) 70Ah 420A 700A (Made In Germany) under warranty (5yr / Unlimited kms).

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[bego9]

Hi ope126,

Can I clarify?

Your car comes only with 3 yrs warranty but you get it replace since still within 3 yrs warranty?
or you have extended warranty up to 5yrs?
Thanks

[ope126]

Hi ope126,

Can I clarify?

Your car comes only with 3 yrs warranty but you get it replace since still within 3 yrs warranty?
or you have extended warranty up to 5yrs?
Thanks

Not rocket science mate, my car has a 5yr warranty!!!

Applies to all sold after Jan 1 2017...

5 Year Unlimited Kilometre New Vehicle WarrantyTerms and Conditions
The warranties set out in these General Warranty Terms and Conditions are given by Volkswagen Group Australia Pty Limited ABN 14 093 117 876 trading as ŠKODA Australia (ŠKODA Australia) of 24 Muir Road, Chullora NSW 2190, and applies to new ŠKODA vehicles sold after 1 January 2017. Please read this document carefully. It describes what is included in the 5 Year Unlimited Kilometre New Vehicle Warranty, what is not covered by the warranty (either by reference to types of claims or the period of time during which an issue may arise) and a consumer’s rights which continue to apply under the Australian Consumer Law. You may contact us by email on hello@myskoda.com.au or by phone on 1800 607 540

[vajnorcan]

Not rocket science mate, my car has a 5yr warranty!!!

Applies to all sold after Jan 1 2017...

5 Year Unlimited Kilometre New Vehicle WarrantyTerms and Conditions
The warranties set out in these General Warranty Terms and Conditions are given by Volkswagen Group Australia Pty Limited ABN 14 093 117 876 trading as ŠKODA Australia (ŠKODA Australia) of 24 Muir Road, Chullora NSW 2190, and applies to new ŠKODA vehicles sold after 1 January 2017. Please read this document carefully. It describes what is included in the 5 Year Unlimited Kilometre New Vehicle Warranty, what is not covered by the warranty (either by reference to types of claims or the period of time during which an issue may arise) and a consumer’s rights which continue to apply under the Australian Consumer Law. You may contact us by email on hello@myskoda.com.au or by phone on 1800 607 540

That is intesting. So my battery has definitely died today. My car is second hand car with 5 years warranty. The car was first registered on 07/04/2017.
I called the Skoda road side assist (Allianz), and the bloke shows up and says, yup, battery dead but I need to check the warranty claim. After a phone call he says nope, your car has 3YRS warranty + 2YRS Extended warranty with the dealer. I told him I don't like that so we called the Skoda Road assist again, the guy had no clue so had to speak to his supervisor, and they said they will not cover it as it's out of 3years of the manufacturers warranty.

So I will be calling Skoda CBD Service tomorrow but I'm already parting myself from my ~450$... Any ideas ?

[ope126]

That is intesting. So my battery has definitely died today. My car is second hand car with 5 years warranty. The car was first registered on 07/04/2017.
I called the Skoda road side assist (Allianz), and the bloke shows up and says, yup, battery dead but I need to check the warranty claim. After a phone call he says nope, your car has 3YRS warranty + 2YRS Extended warranty with the dealer. I told him I don't like that so we called the Skoda Road assist again, the guy had no clue so had to speak to his supervisor, and they said they will not cover it as it's out of 3years of the manufacturers warranty.

So I will be calling Skoda CBD Service tomorrow but I'm already parting myself from my ~450$... Any ideas ?

I can not comment on your experience, only mine.
I was in for service, battery tested poorly and they replaced it under warranty. No question...

One thing is for certain, Roadside Assist would not provide you with a Genuine Battery.
So out of curiosity, what brand / specs did they replace with?
Based on the cost they charged you, sound like they gave you an AGM. That is good!

I don't think your local dealer would be able to help you, I would suggest; "You may contact us by email on hello@myskoda.com.au or by phone on 1800 607 540".

[vajnorcan]

I can not comment on your experience, only mine.
I was in for service, battery tested poorly and they replaced it under warranty. No question...

One thing is for certain, Roadside Assist would not provide you with a Genuine Battery.
So out of curiosity, what brand / specs did they replace with?
Based on the cost they charged you, sound like they gave you an AGM. That is good!

I don't think your local dealer would be able to help you, I would suggest; "You may contact us by email on hello@myskoda.com.au or by phone on 1800 607 540".

Thanks for the tip, I will try my best to get this done while not footing the bill, 5yrs warranty it is and I see you guys got it replaced no problem.

Yes, I was curious about that too so I took a photo of what was supposed to be a replacement battery, but it seems like I can't upload it via mobile phone on this forum.

Brand: Delkor
Type: AGM
Number: LN3 570 901 076
Made in: South Korea

Are AGMs that superior to EFBs? I thought only the latter was the one to use, but I'm def no expert here, hence on the forum. Thanks

[bego9]

AGM is better than EFB, according to the battery shop.
According to the shop, he was surprised that my skoda superb use EFB.
His guide said to use AGM.

Yours has 2 yrs extended from dealer.
So you won't get support if you call skoda assist. You need to go back to the dealer. Then you need to find out if battery is part of their warranty.

If I'm not mistaken or misheard, Delkor EFB $299 battery 660-680cca, install and program.
Varta AGM E39 $488 750cca.
From the battery shop quote.
Hope it helps.

[vajnorcan]

...Yours has 2 yrs extended from dealer.


I bought it second hand. This extended warranty is specific dealer only or Skoda Dealer (any)?



...install and program.


I thought it would be as simple as a swap battery and job done. What kind of 'programming' needs to be done? Seems like I'm like an old dinosaur coming from my 2006 Liberty Wagon :)

[dArK5HaD0w]

my car was registered June 2017 - warranty period is 5 Years "Extended Warranty".

sounds like 3 + 2 warranty situation here. 3 yrs manufacturer and 2 yrs dealer.

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[ope126]

AGM is better than EFB, according to the battery shop.
According to the shop, he was surprised that my skoda superb use EFB.
His guide said to use AGM.

Yours has 2 yrs extended from dealer.
So you won't get support if you call skoda assist. You need to go back to the dealer. Then you need to find out if battery is part of their warranty.

If I'm not mistaken or misheard, Delkor EFB $299 battery 660-680cca, install and program.
Varta AGM E39 $488 750cca.
From the battery shop quote.
Hope it helps.

No Superb has an AGM fitted standard, even the Diesel's (my Passat has an AGM Battery).
But yes, Aftermarket they will certainly be pushing an AGM 9 in his guide), more $$$ in it for them.

Not sure where your going regarding a 2yr extended dealer warranty?

Here is the link; ŠKODA 5 Year Warranty | Owners | ŠKODA Australia (https://www.skoda.com.au/owners/warranty)

5 Year Unlimited Kilometer New Vehicle Warranty (it does not make mention of a 3yr Manufacturers Warranty + 2yr Dealer Warranty).

Either way, no biggie. I get my car serviced at ŠKODA, so no issues for me...

As for the battery I had replaced, happy day. I did not have to pay a cent!!! Simple...

[vajnorcan]

Ok, so I've called Skoda Australia, they confirmed that Allianz is not paying for batteries if over 3yrs, but the battery will be changed at no cost at any service center. She also mentioned that this applied only if the battery hasn't been changed before.
So I've called Brisbane City Skoda and I've explained the situation and they booked me in in 3 days. So far it seems like either if you have 3 + 2 or 5 yrs warranty the battery is part of the warranty for the full 5 years.
I will keep you posted

[amjob]

MY2017 battery changed today by Roadside assistance under warranty. It was purchased in March 2017.
Delkor AGM

[amjob]

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[vajnorcan]

MY2017 battery changed today by Roadside assistance under warranty. It was purchased in March 2017.
Delkor AGM

That's fkn hilarious. April 2017 was the first registration of mine but it was handled differently, what a mess. Even though I'm booked for the replacement, I still have to travel 40km to get this done ...

Btw, where are you located?

[amjob]

That's fkn hilarious. April 2017 was the first registration of mine but it was handled differently, what a mess. Even though I'm booked for the replacement, I still have to travel 40km to get this done ...

My apologies, it was registered in 08/2017

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[vajnorcan]

My apologies, it was registered in 08/2017

Ok, that explains it, still within 3yrs. good on you, I wish my battery died a month ago :)

[Micky 32]

No Superb has an AGM fitted standard, even the Diesel's (my Passat has an AGM Battery).


Not entirely true. A friend of mine has a 2017 Superb and it has a Varta AGM battery 7P0 915 105 the exact same battery as my 2017 B8 Passat.

Not so sure AGM’s are that much tougher. Mine is showing signs of wear after 3 years. Odd things were happening like the heated steering wheel turning itself on after cranking on a cold morning but for most part performing well.

I bought one of those batttery monitors BM2. The other morning it showed 8.9v on the crank test.

[Transporter]

Not entirely true. A friend of mine has a 2017 Superb and it has a Varta AGM battery 7P0 915 105 the exact same battery as my 2017 B8 Passat.

Not so sure AGM’s are that much tougher. Mine is showing signs of wear after 3 years. Odd things were happening like the heated steering wheel turning itself on after cranking on a cold morning but for most part performing well.

I bought one of those batttery monitors BM2. The other morning it showed 8.9v on the crank test.

When people use the term AGM, they don’t refer to the brand, it’s not the brand. The AGM is short for Absorbed Glass Mat construction of the battery. Where EFB states for the Enhanced Flooded Battery, which is a compromise, and cheap alternative to AGM style batteries. The EFB is nothing more than glorified wet lead acid old technology battery with a bit stronger internals than standard lead acid batteries.

The biggest life reducer of your AGM battery is the stop start system. Get rid off the stop start and your battery life should extend dramatically.

[ope126]

Not entirely true. A friend of mine has a 2017 Superb and it has a Varta AGM battery 7P0 915 105 the exact same battery as my 2017 B8 Passat.

Not so sure AGM’s are that much tougher. Mine is showing signs of wear after 3 years. Odd things were happening like the heated steering wheel turning itself on after cranking on a cold morning but for most part performing well.

I bought one of those batttery monitors BM2. The other morning it showed 8.9v on the crank test.

You live in Ireland.

We are in Australia. So my reference is to the Australian market...

Heated Steering wheels are not even an option here...

[Micky 32]

When people use the term AGM, they don’t refer to the brand, it’s not the brand. The AGM is short for Absorbed Glass Mat construction of the battery. Where EFB states for the Enhanced Flooded Battery, which is a compromise, and cheap alternative to AGM style batteries. The EFB is nothing more than glorified wet lead acid old technology battery with a bit stronger internals than standard lead acid batteries.

The biggest life reducer of your AGM battery is the stop start system. Get rid off the stop start and your battery life should extend dramatically.

I know exactly what an AGM battery is , i’m trying to figure out the point of your post and where i suggested AGM was a brand?

[Micky 32]

The car originated from the UK. The Skoda doesn’t have a heated steering wheel it’s fairly standard car no special extras no heated seats etc even though it still came with an AGM battery