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mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 08:44 AM
Done only 15k in my wagon and already just changed the front tyres.
couldn't believe how quick the original ones wore down,but compounds
that soft don't last long.....they served me well.
Trying a set of Pirrellis now.All tyres mega bucks:facepalm:

doc_777
08-03-2018, 08:50 AM
What spec is your wagon?

mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 09:03 AM
I'm only new here as you can see and fumbling my way thru...I have a 2016 Passatt wagon Luxury pack
TDI in Tungsten Silver.Love it.Never ever thought Id own a VW.

doc_777
08-03-2018, 09:17 AM
Interesting.

I have an Alltrack (4 motion). 14k, in for its first service today. Tyres are hardly worn. My wife has a 132TSI comfortline. Hers has around 18k on the dial if I recall and tyres are in great condition.

Might be worth looking at how hard you brake, how hard you accelerate etc if your tyres are wearing out that quickly. Also check pressures regularly.

mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 09:28 AM
Have been a courier in Sydney 25 plus years and really spoil my car,drive it with care and ease as I know
hard braking accelerating and cornering (dam roundabouts)really punish tyres and brakes,thats why I drive
easy.Those Conti tyres that come standard are super soft as you prob know,but they are a performance
tyre and thus wear quicker.When I got car serviced they said that's normal.Got different ones now so Ill
see how they stack up.Service at VW said brakes are: front are 11mm and rear 10.5 mm left and wearing
great.

doc_777
08-03-2018, 09:36 AM
Okay, we have Pirellis on both ours. P7 with the "seal inside" compound.

mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 09:41 AM
mine came with the std Continentals...which have now been phased out for a new
series,the back ones are still pretty good its just the front ones that I replaced.
Got P7s now,leave a big footprint on the road which is what you need.

Steve

mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 09:41 AM
Signature worked....Yay

VW Convert
08-03-2018, 09:51 AM
Have been a courier in Sydney 25 plus years and really spoil my car,drive it with care and ease as I know
hard braking accelerating and cornering (dam roundabouts)really punish tyres and brakes,thats why I drive
easy.Those Conti tyres that come standard are super soft as you prob know,but they are a performance
tyre and thus wear quicker.When I got car serviced they said that's normal.Got different ones now so Ill
see how they stack up.Service at VW said brakes are: front are 11mm and rear 10.5 mm left and wearing
great.

I've bought 3 new VWs, 2 were fitted with Contis, one with Bridgestone, driving in and around Sydney never got less than 40K from a set. Plenty of roundabouts where I live and I'm not overly gentle on the accelerator. Something not right if you have to replace at 15K.

Were they evenly worn? I'd be looking at wheel alignment and/or tyre pressures.

Cheers

George

mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 10:03 AM
Hey thanks George,I run 40psi.....I like 34 to 36 but my best mate sells tyres,he says run 40 in these big
daddys,They were worn even as,and I got wheel alignment anyway but he says that was in spec,Its like
I put my finger in the groove everyday and it was disappearing.Sydneys northern beaches where I live has
a lot of roundas and you just gotta go gentle around them.Ill see how the P7s go and I'm confident they
will do the job with the 40 psi in them.

Umai Naa!!
08-03-2018, 10:10 AM
Good advice on keeping the pressures high.

It's pretty muchg the only way to keep tyres on the things.

doc_777
08-03-2018, 10:22 AM
40PSI will reduce the contact patch, and increase wear through the middle of the tread face. Sure, it will help the edges wear better, but you won't be doing your traction any favours.

Load inflation tables are your friend. The whole tyre manufacturing industry uses the same references, so it doesn't matter which table you use - but recommended pressures exist for a reason.

Here's an example table:
https://toyo-arhxo0vh6d1oh9i0c.stackpathdns.com/media/2125/application_of_load_inflation_tables_20170203.pdf


My Alltrack runs 245/40-19. Tare weight is 1671kg, and for the sake of simplicity lets say its evenly distributed across both axles. That equates to 3676lbs (only did that conversion because I am using an american load inflation table).

At 40PSI the tyre carcass is rated to 1600lbs PER TYRE!


To each their own - and if you want to run high pressures then so be it - but getting some extra kays out of your tyres by increasing the pressure is not necessarily a brilliant thing to do. You've substantially reduced the contact patch which dramatically reduces the traction profile of the tyre.

Umai Naa!!
08-03-2018, 10:54 AM
You don't know exactly how it effects the tyre in terms of wear, until you try it out.

If you run what the tyre placard suggests, you'll trash the edges of the tyres in no time.

You wouldn't run 40psi in the tyres of a base model Polo, but a heavy-ish car like a Passat Alltrack, you'd certainly consider it.

doc_777
08-03-2018, 11:05 AM
You don't know exactly how it effects the tyre in terms of wear, until you try it out.

If you run what the tyre placard suggests, you'll trash the edges of the tyres in no time.

You wouldn't run 40psi in the tyres of a base model Polo, but a heavy-ish car like a Passat Alltrack, you'd certainly consider it.


Um, I HAVE a Passat Alltrack, and they have quite a lot of rubber under them. I find 32PSI plenty, and the shoulders of the tyres are just fine.

mysteryman1961
08-03-2018, 11:06 AM
Hey Anthony,I agree. I have always ran 32 to 36 max,but these tyre guys always say go the 40.
Does it make them wear quicker?? Only time and mileage will tell. I was amazed the original front
wore within the 15k,I had 36 in them and when I got the wheels aligned they said within spec.
What do you do? Trying Pirrellis now and the original back ones still in top condition.I live in suburbia
wher roundabouts rule along with stop and give way signs.Its a jungle.Its like the directions on the washing
powder pack:Use 1 full scoop but the washing machine manu man says,quarter that.Its better and they want
you to buy more powder or tyres..LOL

Screwdriverone
08-03-2018, 04:11 PM
I run 40 psi in my R36 to shut the tyre pressure warning system up and my toyos wear evenly and slowly, even though their wet performance is pretty terrible, I'll be looking at Michelin Sport 4s when the car needs new boots as they seem to be the recommended price/performance/wear compromise for the R36.

Cheers,

Chris

2008 R36 Reflex Silver Wagon

Kachingg
08-03-2018, 05:17 PM
i got 235/35/19 on my golf alltrack and i run 36psi tyres are ventis v12 at 13k now tyres barley worn and i do give em a hard time

mysteryman1961
09-03-2018, 08:44 AM
Tyres are a big talking item......well they are very important and you can only ask for
opinions and then do what you think is right that also suits your ride.

Rocket36
09-03-2018, 09:14 AM
Tyres are a big talking item......well they are very important and you can only ask for
opinions and then do what you think is right that also suits your ride.

Well said. There is no right or wrong answer.

Hillbilly
09-03-2018, 10:37 AM
On my B7 which has done 36000 the tyres still have nearly 4mm on them with mainly highway driving.Usually run at 40lb

Courier and babying a car Thats an Oxymoron isnt it LOL

curly747
10-03-2018, 06:01 PM
I have continental contisport on my new All Track with only 5000 KMs. I have noticed some wear already which surprised me. If they only last 15000 kms I will be pretty annoyed. They seem to have a pretty bad reputation for wear on review sites.

ope126
30-03-2018, 05:02 PM
I have continental contisport on my new All Track with only 5000 KMs. I have noticed some wear already which surprised me. If they only last 15000 kms I will be pretty annoyed. They seem to have a pretty bad reputation for wear on review sites.

Here is my experience with the Contis...Passat 140TDI Highline tyre replacement (235/45R18) (http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f235/passat-140tdi-highline-tyre-replacement-235-45r18-122592.html)

ope126
30-03-2018, 05:08 PM
On my B7 which has done 36000 the tyres still have nearly 4mm on them with mainly highway driving.Usually run at 40lb

Courier and babying a car Thats an Oxymoron isnt it LOL

Tyres needs to be changed when the manufacture date is more than 10yrs on the tyre (not the car)...
I wonder if you can stretch it out Hillbilly...
What do you need to know about the age of your tires? (https://www.continental-tyres.com.au/car/technology/tyre-knowledge/lex-1-2)