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kamold
10-11-2017, 12:30 PM
Hi All,
I have just enabled DLA for a B8 Passat.
There seem to be a number of possibilities with respect to BCM and headlight range module combinations, so this is still under investigation...hoping this might be possible to achieve with just coding and adaption - keep watching this space.

Dynamic Light Assist
Dynamic Light Assist < Technical Glossary < Innovation & Technology < Volkswagen International (http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/technical-glossary/dynamic_light_assist.html)

Thanks to DR074 for the link to instructions here:
Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - up to MY 2017 - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.ascoding.ch/en/activating-dynamic-light-assist-dla/)

There is a VCP parameter set for Passat B8 with highline LED and A3 with Matrix LED but this is only required to change the light startup sequence (the headlight dance). It is possible to fully enable the feature with just coding and adaptation through VCDS.

NOTE: if you have the older VCDS HEX-USB or HEX+CAN it is NOT able to see a module at address 4B. This is the address of the headlight control module in newer Tiguans.
VCDS V2 interfaces and VCP can see and change settings in this module.
Will update once I test OBD11.

Wynnston
10-11-2017, 12:40 PM
I am assuming most AU delivered B8 Passats with LED headlights would not have that headlight, or do most have them?

Is this the full DLA or just HBA?

Given you upload a different parameter set, will it count as flashing which may modify checksums in the control module, therefore potentially throwing a TD1 flag?

Are there any VCP owners in Perth?

Cheers.

kamold
10-11-2017, 01:13 PM
This is full DLA - as far as I am aware. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I have no idea what Passats get what headlights sorry.

A VCDS autoscan will list the LED LeiMo li. part numbers.

With respect to TD1 to be honest I don't know the answer to that question. I will try and find out and report back.

Wynnston
10-11-2017, 02:25 PM
Hi All,
I have just enabled DLA for a B8 Passat.

Dynamic Light Assist
Dynamic Light Assist < Technical Glossary < Innovation & Technology < Volkswagen International (http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/technical-glossary/dynamic_light_assist.html)

In the B8 it requires the LED high headlights 7PP 941 572 AB.

Unfortunately it requires the upload of a suitable parameter set using VCP, and some coding/adaptation changes, then basic settings.

There look to be parameter sets for the following cars:
A3 with headlight range controller 7P6907357D
Passat B8 with headlight range controller 7P6907357C

All of this information required for VCP owners is available in the VCP forums.
If anyone is in Sydney and wants this enabled let me know.

Outside of Sydney VCP owners check the English forum, let me know if you have any trouble with it. Just need to get the sequence right and it's all done in 15mins.

Mine scan as 7PP 941 572 A (MY 17 206 Passat). So I guess they're different.

kamold
10-11-2017, 02:31 PM
Mine scan as 7PP 941 572 A (MY 17 206 Passat). So I guess they're different.What is the part number of your BCM?

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Wynnston
10-11-2017, 04:36 PM
What is the part number of your BCM?

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5Q0 937 086 BH (BCM PQ37BOSCH) 032 0222

ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyControlModul1UDSBosc 017002

Headlight Range Control is HW: 7P6 907 357 B

*** This is probably easier for you ****
Address 55: Headlight Range (J745) Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 C HW: 7P6 907 357 B
Component: AFS-ECU H01 0120
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 03A603000F210200
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08XXX
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB 001001
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB_VW48.rod
VCID: 3F8DA667A6BDA0BEB3-806A

Led Headlamp Powermodule Left:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 572 AB HW: 7PP 941 572 A Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LED LeiMo li. H09 0003
Coding: E02400

Led Headlamp Powermodule Right:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 572 AB HW: 7PP 941 572 A Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LED LeiMo re. H09 0003
Coding: E02400

Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3G0 941 329 _ HW: 3G0 941 329 _ Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo links H02 0003
Coding: E02400

Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 3G0 941 329 _ HW: 3G0 941 329 _ Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo rechts H02 0003
Coding: E02400

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 BH HW: 5Q0 937 086 BH
Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 032 0222
Revision: -------- Serial number: 86581108160XXX
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 08XXX
ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 017002
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017_VW27.rod
VCID: 0109609F90C9164E85-8054

kamold
10-11-2017, 04:42 PM
Should work, but you'll need VCP.
Same BCM as the one I did this morning.
LED is a slightly different revision but I don't think that should preclude the feature being activated.

Wynnston
10-11-2017, 04:45 PM
Hi All,
I have just enabled DLA for a B8 Passat.

Dynamic Light Assist
Dynamic Light Assist < Technical Glossary < Innovation & Technology < Volkswagen International (http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/technical-glossary/dynamic_light_assist.html)

In the B8 it requires the LED high headlights 7PP 941 572 AB.

Unfortunately it requires the upload of a suitable parameter set using VCP, and some coding/adaptation changes, then basic settings.

There look to be parameter sets for the following cars:
A3 with headlight range controller 7P6907357D
Passat B8 with headlight range controller 7P6907357C

All of this information required for VCP owners is available in the VCP forums.
If anyone is in Sydney and wants this enabled let me know.

Outside of Sydney VCP owners check the English forum, let me know if you have any trouble with it. Just need to get the sequence right and it's all done in 15mins.

I think you need to know the PN of the actual headlight unit. One has on/off shutters and the other has rollers (I think)

kamold
10-11-2017, 05:11 PM
Mine scan as 7PP 941 572 A (MY 17 206 Passat). So I guess they're different.

Ok so that part is actually the LED ballast, so that looks like it doesn't describe what type of LED headlamp assembly is in front of it...

It might be easier to tell from the PR codes maybe.
Do you know where the list of PR codes for all the parts installed in your car is located?
It used to be in the wheel well but when I looked in a Golf 7.5 the other night it wasn't there so I assume it is in the car's service book or manual.

DR074
10-11-2017, 06:42 PM
Hi Wynnston,

Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - up to MY 2017 - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/activate-dynamic-light-assist-dla-mj-2017/)

The above worked on my 206, DLA is working on my car. Used OBD11

kamold
10-11-2017, 07:02 PM
Hi Wynnston,

Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - up to MY 2017 - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/activate-dynamic-light-assist-dla-mj-2017/)

The above worked on my 206, DLA is working on my car. Used OBD11Is your headlight range controller at address 55 or 4B?
And what is the pn of your BCM?
There seem to be 3 variations....

My16 has address 55 and BCM which can be coded
My17 has address 4b and BCM which has no coding, only adaptation channels.

Then the last variant (which nobody seems to have encountered until now) has the older address 55 headlight controller and new adaptation only BCM.
This last variant requires a parameter set upload to address 55 to activate AFS with MFD (masking).

First 2 variants require coding and adaptation only.
Last one needs coding, adaptation and a parameter set.

Hopefully we can figure out by model and year how these break down in Australia.

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DR074
10-11-2017, 07:26 PM
Hi
The address for headlight is 55, not sure what the pn is. Still a noob at all this stuff.

Does any of the below help?

Backup
Control unit: 55 Headlight Regulation
System description: AFS-ECU
Software number: 7P6907357C
Software version: 0120
Hardware number: 7P6907357B
Hardware version: H01
Serial number: --------------
ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB
ODX version: 001001
Backup name: 55
Long coding:
03A60300CF210200
Subsystems:
Subsystem: LeiMo links
Long coding: E02400
Subsystem: LeiMo rechts
Long coding: E02400
Subsystem: LED LeiMo li.
Long coding: E02400
Subsystem: LED LeiMo re.
Long coding: E02400

fingers crossed

kamold
10-11-2017, 07:31 PM
Hi
The address for headlight is 55, not sure what the pn is. Still a noob at all this stuff.

Does any of the below help?

Backup
Control unit: 55 Headlight Regulation
System description: AFS-ECU
Software number: 7P6907357C
Software version: 0120
Hardware number: 7P6907357B
Hardware version: H01
Serial number: --------------
ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB
ODX version: 001001
Backup name: 55
Long coding:
03A60300CF210200
Subsystems:
Subsystem: LeiMo links
Long coding: E02400
Subsystem: LeiMo rechts
Long coding: E02400
Subsystem: LED LeiMo li.
Long coding: E02400
Subsystem: LED LeiMo re.
Long coding: E02400

fingers crossedOk how about address 09 central electrics? (BCM)
I'm guessing you followed the my16 coding ?

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DR074
10-11-2017, 07:40 PM
Oops, I may have posted the wrong link. From memory, used the from 17.

Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - from MY 2017 - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/activating-dynamic-light-assist-dla/)

Below is the backup for 09. No coding, all adaptations. Needed google translate.

Backup
Control unit: 09 Central Electrics
System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
Software number: 5Q0937086BH
Software version: 0222
Hardware number: 5Q0937086BH
Hardware version: 032
Serial number: 865811081601M1
ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
ODX version: 017002
Backup name: 9
Long coding:

Took some fiddling from memory

Wynnston
10-11-2017, 07:40 PM
Hi Wynnston,

Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - up to MY 2017 - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/activate-dynamic-light-assist-dla-mj-2017/)

The above worked on my 206, DLA is working on my car. Used OBD11

So are yours on Main Beam all the time and then when a car is oncoming it only dims that portion, or does it turn Main Beam off all together?

DR074
10-11-2017, 07:41 PM
Just checked that second link, ah no. definitely pre 17.

DR074
10-11-2017, 07:43 PM
Sorry, yes its on all the time and it dims them from main beam when a car drives past or you come up on street lights.

kamold
10-11-2017, 07:53 PM
it just dims them from main beam.What does the startup sequence for the headlights look like?
If it's DLA you see the lights sweep up and down then out and in with a definite mask visible in the middle.
Regular AFS sees light all across the frontal area.
Not sure if this makes sense...

Here is a video of DLA startup in slomoTapatalk Cloud - Downlaoad File VID_1510282960396.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5a057736d3554/VID_1510282960396.mp4)

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DR074
10-11-2017, 07:58 PM
Yep, the start sequence does the dancing headlights. Sweep out, in, up and down.

kamold
10-11-2017, 08:08 PM
Yep, the start sequence does the dancing headlights. Sweep out, in, up and down.But can you see the masking in the middle?
My 2009 car with AFS does the sweeps.
But it cannot mask like that.

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DR074
10-11-2017, 08:16 PM
If masking means the big gap of light in the middle when the lights sweep out, then no.

They definitely dip beam when approaching oncoming traffic though.

Wynnston
10-11-2017, 08:18 PM
But can you see the masking in the middle?
My 2009 car with AFS does the sweeps.
But it cannot mask like that.

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I can't code the CE module in VCDS, it's all done through adaptations.

Also, I can't see bit 6 on Byte 4 on the 55 - (headlight range) module either.

kamold
10-11-2017, 08:19 PM
If masking means the big gap of light in the middle when the lights sweep out, then no.

They definitely dip beam when approaching oncoming traffic though.That's HBA high beam assist.
Not DLA.
You need the parameter set applied to your headlight range module.

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Wynnston
10-11-2017, 08:19 PM
If masking means the big gap of light in the middle when the lights sweep out, then no.

They definitely dip beam when approaching oncoming traffic though.

That sounds like you've enabled HBA to me.

kamold
10-11-2017, 08:20 PM
I can't code the CE module in VCDS, it's all done through adaptations.

Also, I can't see bit 6 on Byte 4 on the 55 - (headlight range) module either.You will need to just manually change the bit.
Counting from right to left where the right hand side is bit 0 (if using vcds)

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DR074
10-11-2017, 08:22 PM
Ok, cool. That's what I was after.

kamold
10-11-2017, 08:25 PM
I can't code the CE module in VCDS, it's all done through adaptations.

Also, I can't see bit 6 on Byte 4 on the 55 - (headlight range) module either.Sorry bit of confusion with similar terms..
By masking I mean the dark spot which is being created on the centre of the beam pattern on startup.
The BCM has no coding, it's all masked as zeros.
All behaviour is controlled through adaptation channels.

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Wynnston
10-11-2017, 08:32 PM
Ok, yeah, looks like we can only get HBA to work without Kamold's parameters, and even then, we might not have the right headlights.

Kamold, I'll try and get under my bonnet tomorrow and note down the part codes of the physical headlight. It may help you work out which ones are high and which ones are not.

DR074
10-11-2017, 09:00 PM
Just checked, definitely no light gap.

Sorry boys for the run around, just trying help. I've got so much cool stuff out of these forums. Thought I better try give back.

kamold
10-11-2017, 09:12 PM
Just checked, definitely no light gap.

Sorry boys for the run around, just trying help. I've got so much cool stuff out of these forums. Thought I better try give back.

This is all brand new to me as I don't have a new Passat.
So your assistance has helped clarify the situation further :)

Thus far it looks like the Aus delivered LED Passats are all category 3 requiring parameter upload to complete the puzzle (if you count 2 from 2 as anything like a significant sample size lol).

kamold
10-11-2017, 09:13 PM
Ok, yeah, looks like we can only get HBA to work without Kamold's parameters, and even then, we might not have the right headlights.

Kamold, I'll try and get under my bonnet tomorrow and note down the part codes of the physical headlight. It may help you work out which ones are high and which ones are not.

Maybe even just a close up photo of the headlamps from the front (with the lights off) and I will try and get one to compare.

Wynnston
10-11-2017, 09:43 PM
Ok, well I stand corrected.

I played around a little more and got it working with DLA (as far as settings are concerned). Took the car for a drive and it activated over 60 in a dimly lit area. The activation was more of a roll up of the light rather than the instant shutter with HBA.

I'm going to eat some dinner then go for a longer drive where I can do 100 km/h and it's dark (I live in the middle of the city).

My headlights didn't do the funky DLA startup, just the normal AFS wink process. I noticed that there is an adaptation option for "Presentation Mode" which I can't activate because I don't have a security key. This might be the key to getting the fancy startup mode.

Does anyone know what the security key for Module 55 - Headlight Range Control might be?

Wynnston
11-11-2017, 12:01 AM
So I can confirm that it's working as DLA. The headlights dance all around the place and cutoff the beam with oncoming traffic. I was a little concerned it wasn't working properly, I had a car with dim tail lights about 100m away and it looked like I was blasting them with high beam, so I'll only use it on open country roads whenever I travel down south.

The good thing is that you still have full control over it, so you simply don't have to turn it on if you don't want to, or you can have manual main beam control with an extra push on the stalk.

I have to note that I don't get the fancy startup sequence. It's still the same level adjust up and down followed by the AFS dance.

kamold
11-11-2017, 05:58 AM
Try login 20103 for the A5 camera if you need it.
Did you run basic settings, and then acknowledge basic settings after you changed the coding in A5 and 55 and the adaptations in 09?

I wonder what the differences are between your car and DR074s that mean yours can enable AFS and his is only HBA?

DR074
11-11-2017, 06:18 AM
I'm trying to look through my settings now to see if anything stands out. Only thing I can find is below;

Control Unit: 09
Fernlicht_assistent: Erweiterte_Fernlichtsteuerung: AFS, FLA, Fernlicht (GLW,MDF)
Static AFS light: bei Rueckwaertsfahrt: both sides

Static AFS light: Vorschrift: ECE R119

kamold
11-11-2017, 06:38 AM
You need to set bit 6 manually in VCDS - there isn't a description in the label file currently.
Sorry I don't have a B8 so hopefully this desciption will help:

The raw coding is counted from right to left, starting at bit 0:
Coding
0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1
7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
Bit number

So if your coding is 00100101, you need to change bit 6 to active, making your new coding 01100101

kamold
11-11-2017, 07:14 AM
So I can confirm that it's working as DLA. The headlights dance all around the place and cutoff the beam with oncoming traffic. I was a little concerned it wasn't working properly, I had a car with dim tail lights about 100m away and it looked like I was blasting them with high beam, so I'll only use it on open country roads whenever I travel down south.

The good thing is that you still have full control over it, so you simply don't have to turn it on if you don't want to, or you can have manual main beam control with an extra push on the stalk.

I have to note that I don't get the fancy startup sequence. It's still the same level adjust up and down followed by the AFS dance.

Given your success I am getting a feeling that the parameter set may only change the startup sequence of the headlight range contoller, rather than activating the feature.
We should be able to come to a conclusion with DR074's car hopefully - if he can also enable DLA and still have the old startup sequence (and he is willing to try) we can then change between the AFS with MFD parameter set and the regular AFS set and see if there is any difference other than startup.

DR074
11-11-2017, 07:19 AM
What Byte would the above Bit be in?

Ahhh, I only have OBD11.

The only long coding I have in Control Unit 09 is in the subsystems for WWS and RLHS

Hmmmm.

DR074
11-11-2017, 07:21 AM
Would the backup file for some of the control units help?

How do I upload a .txt here?

kamold
11-11-2017, 07:33 AM
Would the backup file for some of the control units help?

How do I upload a .txt here?Were you able to apply all the coding and adaptations per the link you posted?
If so then you need to run basic settings on address 55 headlight range, and then run acknowledge basic settings.
I haven't done this with obd11 so you'll have to check if these two are available. They are 2 seperate routines. Both need to be run to success (a few seconds each only)

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DR074
11-11-2017, 07:58 AM
I couldn't code Byte 2 Hex 0E, but did the rest.

Dynamic Light Assist came up in the centre console as an option, ticked, ran basic settings and acknowledge basic settings.

Tested, when I flick the left stork forward for high beam, a white icon comes up in AID like the one in on the DLA website, High Beams are not on. Lights are on Main Beam. In testing, lights were normal until no cars were coming toward me, then the light increased a little bit. There is no difference in light when in normal or with 1 flick forward of the stork.

A second flick forward of the left stork puts on the actual High Beam, with the little blue high beam icon. High beams are now on.

A flick back of the high beam stork, puts lights back to normal.

Is the HBA, or DLA?

kamold
11-11-2017, 08:02 AM
I couldn't code Byte 2 Hex 0E, but did the rest.

Dynamic Light Assist came up in the centre console as an option, ticked, ran basic settings and acknowledge basic settings.

Tested, when I flick the left stork forward for high beam, a white icon comes up in AID like the one in on the DLA website, High Beams are not on. Lights are on Main Beam. In testing, lights were normal until no cars were coming toward me, then the light increased a little bit. There is no difference in light when in normal or with 1 flick forward of the stork.

A second flick forward of the left stork puts on the actual High Beam, with the little blue high beam icon. High beams are now on.

A flick back of the high beam stork, puts lights back to normal.

Is the HBA, or DLA?I think the clearest indication would be coming up behind a car - did you see a darker section in the middle protecting the car in front from being dazzled?
Hopefully Wynnston can give a better description than me as he actually owns a B8 [emoji3]

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Wynnston
11-11-2017, 08:04 AM
Were you able to apply all the coding and adaptations per the link you posted?
If so then you need to run basic settings on address 55 headlight range, and then run acknowledge basic settings.
I haven't done this with obd11 so you'll have to check if these two are available. They are 2 seperate routines. Both need to be run to success (a few seconds each only)

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So, I don't have the startup sequence of the DLA system but can confirm it is working because it manages the beam when oncoming traffic approaches instead of just turning off like HBA. I'd love to work it out to get the DLA presentation working because it looks so much cooler.

There are two sets of instructions on that page. I followed the instructions for => 2017 models, but I did not have 4B so I followed the instructions on coding the 55 module from the < 2017 version, I didn't have Byte 4 bit 6 as a tickbox so I manually modified the code (byte 4 is now 4F Added a 1 to position 2 in the binary (is bit 6), I then also ran basic settings and then the apply basic settings. I had "Light Assist" errors come up in the MFD before that, now no errors.

DR074 probably has his working just like mine and we may have confused eachother because the startup sequence didn't change.

DR074
11-11-2017, 08:12 AM
I think you are right Wynnston, I may be confused. The description on the DLA website sounds right, but could be mistaken.

My testing may be skewed, as its daytime, I had to close the garage door. This may not be the best test, as I think the camera picks up the garage door. I will do more testing tonight, coming up behind a car, etc, and see what that does.

Wynnston
11-11-2017, 08:20 AM
I think you are right Wynnston, I may be confused. The description on the DLA website sounds right, but could be mistaken.

My testing may be skewed, as its daytime, I had to close the garage door. This may not be the best test, as I think the camera picks up the garage door. I will do more testing tonight, coming up behind a car, etc, and see what that does.

It wont work under 58 KPH and I dont think either of us have the fancy startup sequence. Here is a good example in this youtube video of how DLA would behave, the fog does exaggerate it a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x_siXqBN10&t=1s

DR074
11-11-2017, 08:49 AM
ahhhh, that video makes sense. That looks cool. I don't think mine does that, but will check tonight and report back. I'm short odds on not.

Wynnston
11-11-2017, 08:52 AM
ahhhh, that video makes sense. That looks cool. I don't think mine does that, but will check tonight and report back. I'm short odds on not.

A less dramatic video (without the fog)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWfFgjhl_-Q

DR074
11-11-2017, 08:55 AM
Fog might be the key to the test, we get a bit of fog in Canberra. First time I have ever wished for fog.

Wynnston
11-11-2017, 12:49 PM
My only concern is that DLA works two ways. It uses a roller to carve the beam and shutters when it needs to be more dramatic. I'm hoping that our headlights have both, otherwise it might think its rolling the beam aside when it's not, therefore potentially blinding people. Until I work this out I will only use it like normal high beam and only get the benefit from not being blinded by large traffic signs with high beam on, but dip it whenever I see a car.

DR074
12-11-2017, 06:31 AM
No fog last night, more testing required.
When I turned on "DLA" (via the menu) and push forward on the stork, white icon appears. When there are no cars or lights (completely dark and over 60kph), I noticed that it automatically brightened the headlights. The blue high beam icon appeared. never noticed that before. So I assume is HBA.

When I came up on another car, oncoming, the lights went back to normal, and high beam icon disappeared. Some thing else funny happened, the lights lowered a little bit. When I came up on other cars from behind, it seemed to do the exact same thing.

I didn't notice the lights do exactly what was in the video by Wynnston, just seemed to lower them a bit.

I think it does what it needs to in different situations. I'll report back if it does any different.

Rainesh
12-11-2017, 09:24 AM
One question for you guys.

When you do basic setting of the headlights...are you sitting IN the car or do the basic setting from outside the car?

When you do basic setting while sitting in the car, the lamps are a bit raised because of the drivers weight. When doing it from outside the car (vcds cable goes through your window) the basic setting will be performed as it should be. Your lights won't be slightly raised and no blinding etc.

DR074
12-11-2017, 09:55 AM
cool, i'll try doing from outside the car

Rainesh
12-11-2017, 04:48 PM
cool, i'll try doing from outside the carMake sure your car is on level ground and if possible a wall in front of you. Use something to mark your current headlight light beam on the wall. Also when sitting in the car.

Then do the basic setting from outside the car, then you will see the difference.

I did this on an Arteon. The first time while sitting in the car, people were still flashing because they were blinded. After doing setting outside car, it was good. No more blinding.

Wynnston
12-11-2017, 05:23 PM
I'll try and take a video with my GoPro tonight to show you what it's doing.

Wynnston
14-11-2017, 11:14 PM
Well, holy crap it works well... I don't know why this just isn't enabled from factory.

I'm down in the country and got a chance to try it out. I know high beam is good, but it's brilliant when you can be behind someone and still have a bunch of light. It masked out the car in-front very well. I think it gets confused a bit with dim street lights, but that may be a characteristic of the system.

Now I've just got to realign them slightly for low beam as they're point down too much. I must have stuffed it when doing the basic settings.

kamold
15-11-2017, 07:39 AM
Well, holy crap it works well... I don't know why this just isn't enabled from factory.

I'm down in the country and got a chance to try it out. I know high beam is good, but it's brilliant when you can be behind someone and still have a bunch of light. It masked out the car in-front very well. I think it gets confused a bit with dim street lights, but that may be a characteristic of the system.

Now I've just got to realign them slightly for low beam as they're point down too much. I must have stuffed it when doing the basic settings.

That's cool :)
Did you manage to capture some footage on the GoPro?
I'm really keen to see it in action.

DR074
15-11-2017, 03:31 PM
Hi Wynnston,

That's great news.

Do you mind if I check some of my settings with you?

Any help would be great, as i'm really happy with HBA, but after seeing the video, that would be awesome to get.

Thanks

DR074
16-11-2017, 08:25 PM
Well, finally got it working as in the video, and wow. This is brilliant, and works well. My only criticism is that sometimes it gets tricked by the road side reflectors on bends, but on the highway is awesome.

So, in "Eco" Driving mode in the DCC, its High Beam Assist. When you select "Normal" Driving Mode in the DCC, its DLA.

This is now working on my car.

Wynnston
18-11-2017, 03:41 PM
Well, finally got it working as in the video, and wow. This is brilliant, and works well. My only criticism is that sometimes it gets tricked by the road side reflectors on bends, but on the highway is awesome.

So, in "Eco" Driving mode in the DCC, its High Beam Assist. When you select "Normal" Driving Mode in the DCC, its DLA.

This is now working on my car.

Excellent. Did you get the new startup sequence to work, or do you still have the same one?

DR074
18-11-2017, 06:37 PM
I have the same start up sequence. I usually drive around in Eco anyway, but i'll try and start it in Normal and see if that changes.

Seriously though, how cool is this car.

Wynnston
18-11-2017, 07:25 PM
I have the same start up sequence. I usually drive around in Eco anyway, but i'll try and start it in Normal and see if that changes.

Seriously though, how cool is this car.

Yeah, very. Lots of hidden features. I suspect a lot of features were not coded because they don't want it to conflict with the 80-90k Audi A4.

I am still yet to work out why I have Dynamic Lane Assist on my car, I certainly didn't code it. I noticed it's not in the menu of my friends 206 but its on my menu and it works a treat on long drives.

DR074
18-11-2017, 08:53 PM
Start up sequence in Normal Mode is same as my usual, not like Komald's video of start up.

Yeah, Adaptive Lane Guidance (I think that's what you mean) wasn't in my menu originally, I had to code it.

kamold
18-11-2017, 08:55 PM
Start up sequence in Normal Mode is same as my usual, not like Komald's video of start up.

Yeah, Adaptive Lane Guidance (I think that's what you mean) wasn't in my menu originally, I had to code it.It's looking like the parameter set only adds the change to startup sequence, not any functionality.
So whilst it might look a little cooler it doesn't appear to be a requirement.
Not possible on A3/S3 with led unless it's matrix led.
Not sure yet on Tiguan with AFS led I think it might be possible.
Passat LED with AFS is a definate YES [emoji3]

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Wynnston
18-11-2017, 08:56 PM
Start up sequence in Normal Mode is same as my usual, not like Komald's video of start up.

Yeah, Adaptive Lane Guidance (I think that's what you mean) wasn't in my menu originally, I had to code it.

The only thing that's different about my car is that it was the first in WA and was supposed to be the dealer demo, so maybe they coded it to showcase it or something...

pyridinite
24-11-2017, 10:41 PM
Hi guys,

Trying to activate this via my obdeleven device and I can't access long coding in the central electrics at all to be able to adjust the byte as per the linked directions. Have correctly entered security codes and stuff so I don't think that's the issue.

Help would be warmly appreciated.

DR074
25-11-2017, 06:01 AM
Hi guys,

Trying to activate this via my obdeleven device and I can't access long coding in the central electrics at all to be able to adjust the byte as per the linked directions. Have correctly entered security codes and stuff so I don't think that's the issue.

Help would be warmly appreciated.

Hi

Both Wynnston and I had to follow half of the Pre 17 and half of the Post 17 instructions. If your Headlights are in Control Unit 4B, use that part of the instruction. Our Headlights are in 55.

I think that Byte 02 - Bit 0 is the same as changing the below (I could be wrong, but has worked)
Control unit: 09 Central Electrics
Adaptations: Fernlicht_assistent: Erweiterte_Fernlichtsteuerung: AFS, FLA, Fernlicht (GLW,MDF)

Don't forget to do the below;
Once coding in Control Unit A5 and 55 (or 4B) is completed,
Clear errors
Run Basic Settings for headlights
Acknowledge Basic Settings
Clear errors

Soft reset in MIB2
Car > Settings > Factory Reset > Lights > Reset

Car needs to be in "Normal" Driving Mode for DLA to work as in the video.

Happy hunting

pyridinite
25-11-2017, 11:19 AM
Hi

Both Wynnston and I had to follow half of the Pre 17 and half of the Post 17 instructions. If your Headlights are in Control Unit 4B, use that part of the instruction. Our Headlights are in 55.

I think that Byte 02 - Bit 0 is the same as changing the below (I could be wrong, but has worked)
Control unit: 09 Central Electrics
Adaptations: Fernlicht_assistent: Erweiterte_Fernlichtsteuerung: AFS, FLA, Fernlicht (GLW,MDF)

Don't forget to do the below;
Once coding in Control Unit A5 and 55 (or 4B) is completed,
Clear errors
Run Basic Settings for headlights
Acknowledge Basic Settings
Clear errors

Soft reset in MIB2
Car > Settings > Factory Reset > Lights > Reset

Car needs to be in "Normal" Driving Mode for DLA to work as in the video.

Happy hunting

Thanks, that got it working. All sorted!

kamold
25-11-2017, 05:11 PM
Updated the original post with some info that's deeper in the thread to assist ease of use.
Have enabled it on a Tiguan this morning after realizing my older VCDS cannot see address 4B for the newer headlight control modules...had to use VCP.

Wynnston
25-11-2017, 06:26 PM
Updated the original post with some info that's deeper in the thread to assist ease of use.
Have enabled it on a Tiguan this morning after realizing my older VCDS cannot see address 4B for the newer headlight control modules...had to use VCP.

We don't access 4B either on the Passsat. It's 55 - Headlight Range Control.

kamold
25-11-2017, 06:31 PM
We don't access 4B either on the Passsat. It's 55 - Headlight Range Control.Correct.
In the Passat it's the traditional 55 headlight range controller.
But when I went looking for a 55 or 4B in vcds in a Tiguan I couldn't find either, so incorrectly assumed it didn't have a control module for headlights.
But I now know it's a limitation of Hex+can vcds

Rainesh
26-11-2017, 08:33 AM
With VCP you will find 4B :)

mythik
18-12-2017, 06:31 PM
Curiously, my old MY16 Passat Alltrack definitely didn't have the blinds and shutters (only shutters for beam height control). High beam assist was fun to enable on that. Worked well... mostly. A bit blindy at times for oncoming traffic as it wasn't perfect.

Fast forward; My new MY18 Passat R-Line appears to be the same. I took a note of the headlight assembly part number: 3G2 941 082 G. I coded the car properly and there are no errors. It just doesn't appear to do the blockout effect.

Side by side with an arteon my18 and golf r wolfy my18 everything about the passat headlight behavior is different. To my eyes these lights are not DLA compliant. DLA lights behave consistently and look different.

Please argue away, this is an amazing thread and I love we're all trying to further enable our purchases to be more feature rich!

mythik
21-12-2017, 06:35 PM
Right! Thanks to a generous set of circumstances I've spent a great deal of time investigating this. AU delivered Passats of any variety _do not_ have the DLA hardware in them. I've verified this with Arteon and Golf R Wolf. The coding difference between the cars with and without the proper rollers is clear. When attempting to change this setting the module notices that the motors are not present for this feature and endlessly errors.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! We're able to have semi-dynamic lights, not all. The setup with the coding above is a bit blindy but better than nothing.

31899

mythik
21-12-2017, 06:38 PM
More interestingly is module 4B Byte 11 - Bit 2 which was enabled on the Arteon - Predictive AFS.

Ok who wants to test what it seems to actually change? :)

kamold
21-12-2017, 06:42 PM
More interestingly is module 4B Byte 11 - Bit 2 which was enabled on the Arteon - Predictive AFS.

Ok who wants to test what it seems to actually change? :)Is that where it uses map data to bend the lights before you get to a curve?

mythik
21-12-2017, 07:26 PM
Is that where it uses map data to bend the lights before you get to a curve?

YES! It is. I just tried it and holy **** it works. I manually enabled headlights and watched AFS data and sure enough before the corner the headlights are already moving. WOW.

Edit: that being said, it seems to get it wrong more than it gets it right. I'm leaving this one off.

zzc2010
21-12-2017, 07:32 PM
Right! Thanks to a generous set of circumstances I've spent a great deal of time investigating this. AU delivered Passats of any variety _do not_ have the DLA hardware in them. I've verified this with Arteon and Golf R Wolf. The coding difference between the cars with and without the proper rollers is clear. When attempting to change this setting the module notices that the motors are not present for this feature and endlessly errors.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! We're able to have semi-dynamic lights, not all. The setup with the coding above is a bit blindy but better than nothing.

31899

I noticed there were roller shutters when I was trying to enable DLA.

Facing a wall, turn your car high beam on, ignition off and you can see the blockage of the light and a "U" shape shadow in the middle on the wall.

Have a try.

Neal

kamold
21-12-2017, 07:42 PM
YES! It is. I just tried it and holy **** it works. I manually enabled headlights and watched AFS data and sure enough before the corner the headlights are already moving. WOW.

Edit: that being said, it seems to get it wrong more than it gets it right. I'm leaving this one off.Lol maybe it should be called 'crazy mind of their own' AFS rather than 'predictive' ?

zzc2010
21-12-2017, 07:44 PM
Lol maybe it should be called 'crazy mind of their own' AFS rather than 'predictive' ?

Maybe it is not connected to the Nav Data like the DSR


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mythik
25-12-2017, 02:47 PM
What's curious is;

Arteon - approach car in front - blacks out car in front / keeps high beam on
Golf R - same as arteon
Passat - can block out left and right individually, not centre. When above situation would occur system simply turns off back to low beam.

The setting in the module that tells the car it has a roller highbeam compatible headlight is why. This is because there isn't a roller in the headlights in the Passat B8. ALTERNATIVELY. It needs some special coding / software. I'm not certain. It just doesn't enable as it should. See my code snippet above as to what should be visible in 4B Byte 3 for DLA roller headlights.

Anyone have an autoscan from a DLA enabled Passat B8 from Germany to compare? :)

zzc2010
25-12-2017, 03:01 PM
What's curious is;

Arteon - approach car in front - blacks out car in front / keeps high beam on
Golf R - same as arteon
Passat - can block out left and right individually, not centre. When above situation would occur system simply turns off back to low beam.

The setting in the module that tells the car it has a roller highbeam compatible headlight is why. This is because there isn't a roller in the headlights in the Passat B8. ALTERNATIVELY. It needs some special coding / software. I'm not certain. It just doesn't enable as it should. See my code snippet above as to what should be visible in 4B Byte 3 for DLA roller headlights.

Anyone have an autoscan from a DLA enabled Passat B8 from Germany to compare? :)

Never know Golf R has DLA as well

The only car in VW has DLA enabled from factory should be Arteon in Australia

I could be wrong. Can’t remember.


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kamold
25-12-2017, 03:17 PM
What's curious is;

Arteon - approach car in front - blacks out car in front / keeps high beam on
Golf R - same as arteon
Passat - can block out left and right individually, not centre. When above situation would occur system simply turns off back to low beam.

The setting in the module that tells the car it has a roller highbeam compatible headlight is why. This is because there isn't a roller in the headlights in the Passat B8. ALTERNATIVELY. It needs some special coding / software. I'm not certain. It just doesn't enable as it should. See my code snippet above as to what should be visible in 4B Byte 3 for DLA roller headlights.

Anyone have an autoscan from a DLA enabled Passat B8 from Germany to compare? :)I wonder if the parameter set for the AFS module does more than just change the startup sequence perhaps?

zzc2010
25-12-2017, 03:18 PM
I wonder if the parameter set for the AFS module does more than just change the startup sequence perhaps?

I feel so.


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murmeltier
06-01-2018, 08:59 AM
What's curious is;
Anyone have an autoscan from a DLA enabled Passat B8 from Germany to compare? :)

Hi

There is an autoscan from a VW Aerton with factory-DLA:



Fahrzeugtyp: 3H-VW48 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 14 15 16 17 19 22 29 2B 36 39 42 44
47 4B 52 5F 6C 6D 75 A5 A9 BB BC CA D6 D7


Fahrzeug-Ident.-Nr.: WVWZZZ3HZHE702358 Kilometerstand: 305km
01-Motorelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
02-Getriebe -- Status: i.O. 0000
03-Bremsenelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
05-Zugangs-/Startber. -- Status: Fehler 0010
08-Klima-/Heizungsel. -- Status: i.O. 0000
09-Zentralelektrik -- Status: i.O. 0000
10-Einparkhilfe 2 -- Status: i.O. 0000
13-Distanzregelung -- Status: i.O. 0000
14-Raddämpfung -- Status: i.O. 0000
15-Airbag -- Status: i.O. 0000
16-Lenkradelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
17-Schalttafeleinsatz -- Status: i.O. 0000
19-Diagnoseinterface -- Status: i.O. 0000
22-Allrad -- Status: i.O. 0000
29-Lichtsteuerung li. -- Status: i.O. 0000
2B-Lenksäulenverrieg. -- Status: i.O. 0000
36-Sitzverst. Fahr. -- Status: i.O. 0000
39-Lichtsteuerung re. -- Status: i.O. 0000
42-Türelektr. Fahrer -- Status: i.O. 0000
44-Lenkhilfe -- Status: i.O. 0000
47-Soundsystem -- Status: i.O. 0000
4B-Multifunktionsstg. -- Status: i.O. 0000
52-Türelektr. Beifahr. -- Status: i.O. 0000
5F-Informationselek. I -- Status: i.O. 0000
6C-Rückfahrkamera -- Status: i.O. 0000
6D-Heckklappe -- Status: i.O. 0000
75-Telematik -- Status: i.O. 0000
A5-Front-/Vorfeldkamera -- Status: i.O. 0000
A9-Körperschallaktuator -- Status: i.O. 0000
BB-Türelektronik hinten links -- Status: i.O. 0000
BC-Türelektronik hinten rechts -- Status: i.O. 0000
CA-Schiebedachelektronik -- Status: i.O. 0000
D6-Lichtsteuerung links 2 -- Status: i.O. 0000
D7-Lichtsteuerung rechts 2 -- Status: i.O. 0000
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Adresse 09: Zentralelektrik (J519) Labeldatei:. DRV\5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
Teilenummer SW: 5Q0 937 086 BM HW: 5Q0 937 086 BH
Bauteil: BCM PQ37BOSCH 034 0242
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 865821041700P1
Betriebsnr.: WSC 00015 115 08193
ASAM Datensatz: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 018001
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_018.rod
VCID: 065464E2A8A99D07616-8052
Steuergerät für Wischermotor:
Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer SW: 3G1 955 119 A HW: 3G1 955 119 Labeldatei: DRV\5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
Bauteil: WWS 170401 042 0607
Seriennummer: 170419161555
Codierung: 0E4DDD
Sensor für Regen- und Lichterkennung:
Subsystem 2 - Teilenummer SW: 81A 955 547 A HW: 81A 955 547
Bauteil: G397_RLFS H06 0002
Seriennummer: 20227625X81A955547A0
Codierung: 00006E
Lichtschalter:
Subsystem 3 - Teilenummer SW: 3G8 941 633 HW: 3G8 941 633
Bauteil: E1 - LDS MQB H01 0032
Seriennummer: 22 02 2017 10000613
Geber für Luftfeuchtigkeit: innen:
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 10: Einparkhilfe 2 (J446) Labeldatei:| DRV\5Q0-919-294.clb
Teilenummer SW: 5QA 919 294 B HW: 5QA 919 294
Bauteil: PDC 8 KanalH07 0044
Seriennummer: 000308418617095
Codierung: 0471151811
Betriebsnr.: WSC 05311 115 00073
ASAM Datensatz: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009035
ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000.rod
VCID: 4BC295D6F34BA06FFE8-801E
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 17: Schalttafeleinsatz (J285) Labeldatei:| DRV\5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
Teilenummer SW: 3G0 920 791 C HW: 3G0 920 791 C
Bauteil: KOMBI 405 3193
Codierung: 07A4101BFF84000801806B031001000880000000
Betriebsnr.: WSC 00015 115 00001
ASAM Datensatz: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009058
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 290E0F5E5977927F2C4-807C
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 19: Diagnoseinterface (J533) Labeldatei:* Keine
Teilenummer SW: 3Q0 907 530 C HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
Bauteil: GW MQB High 515 5286
Seriennummer: 23041710800233
Codierung: 030300047F085900FB00827E9C0F0001000107000000000000 0000000000
Betriebsnr.: WSC 05311 115 00073
ASAM Datensatz: EV_GatewNF 013020
ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW27.rod
VCID: 2F3AE1466793FC4FF20-807A
Generator:
Steuergerät für Multifunktionslenkrad:
Subsystem 2 - Teilenummer SW: 5G0 959 442 K HW: 5G0 959 442 K Labeldatei: DRV\3C8-959-537.CLB
Bauteil: E221__MFL-DC1 H17 0040
Seriennummer: 46170001122840117166
Codierung: 2DFFFF
Steuergerät für Batterieüberwachung:
Subsystem 3 - Teilenummer SW: 5Q0 915 181 J HW: 5Q0 915 181 J
Bauteil: J367-BDMConti H03 1050
Seriennummer: 7588600000170420035C
Analoguhr:
Subsystem 4 - Teilenummer SW: 3G0 919 204 C HW: 3G0 919 204 C
Bauteil: Analoguhr 209 2002
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 29: Lichtsteuerung li. (J1018) Labeldatei: 8V0-907-399.clb
Teilenummer SW: 8V0 907 399 B HW: 8V0 907 399 B
Bauteil: LCM_MLBevoH08 0014
ASAM Datensatz: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736 001012
ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW48.rod
VCID: 45D6A3EED52F561F28C-8010
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 39: Lichtsteuerung re. (J1023) Labeldatei: 8V0-907-399.clb
Teilenummer SW: 8V0 907 399 B HW: 8V0 907 399 B
Bauteil: LCM_MLBevoH08 0014
ASAM Datensatz: EV_LCMRightHELLAAU736 001012
ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW48.rod
VCID: 45D6A3EED52F561F28C-8010
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 4B: Multifunktionsstg. (J745) Labeldatei:* Keine
Teilenummer SW: 3Q0 907 338 HW: 3Q0 907 338
Bauteil: FCM MQB Low 001 0285
Seriennummer: 27041710802533
Codierung: 000000050100045207106F0502000000000000000000000000 0000000000
Betriebsnr.: WSC 05311 000 08193
ASAM Datensatz: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X 001010
ROD: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X_VW27.rod
VCID: 72BC2832B42191A75DE-8026
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse 5F: Informationselek. I (J794) Labeldatei:| 5G0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
Teilenummer SW: 5NA 035 022 HW: 5NA 035 022
Bauteil: MU-H-LND-EU H51 1077
Seriennummer: A846D0HB003010
Codierung: 02840301000000005111010200880A101F010AE4012004009E
Betriebsnr.: WSC 05311 115 00073
ASAM Datensatz: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS 001001
ROD: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS_VW37.rod
VCID: 70B8223ABA2DA3B7ABA-8024
Anzeige- und Bedienungseinheit 1 für Informationselektronik:
Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer SW: 5G6 919 606 HW: 5G6 919 606
Bauteil: ABT_High-2 H50 9120
Seriennummer: VWZ6ZHT1290422
Datenträger:
Subsystem 2 - Teilenummer SW: V03 959 800 QQ HW: -----------
Bauteil: ECE 2017 --- 0157
Seriennummer: --------------------
Compact Disc Datenbank:
Subsystem 3 - Teilenummer SW: V03 959 800 EG HW: -----------
Bauteil: Gracenote2 --- 1015
Seriennummer: --------------------
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse A5: Front-/Vorfeldkamera (R242) Labeldatei:| DRV\3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
Teilenummer SW: 3Q0 980 654 J HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
Bauteil: MQB_B_MFK H07 0273
Seriennummer: 21041712P13099
Codierung: 0004080400000401002223448150A90094000E300040
Betriebsnr.: WSC 00015 115 08193
ASAM Datensatz: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_VW36.rod
VCID: 3E24CC02B0F905C7696-806A
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse A9: Körperschallaktuator (J869) Labeldatei: Keine
Teilenummer SW: 3G8 907 159 HW: 4H0 907 159 A
Bauteil: SAS-GEN 2 H07 0003
Seriennummer: 170407203707
ASAM Datensatz: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_VW26.rod
VCID: 71BE273EB127AABFA44-8024
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse D6: Lichtsteuerung links 2 (A31) Labeldatei: 7PP-941-572.clb
Teilenummer SW: 7PP 941 572 AB HW: 7PP 941 572 A
Bauteil: LED1L H09 0003
Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Datensatz: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736 001004
ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW48.rod
VCID: 167434A2F8092D87916-8042
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
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Adresse D7: Lichtsteuerung rechts 2 (A27) Labeldatei: 7PP-941-572.clb
Teilenummer SW: 7PP 941 572 AB HW: 7PP 941 572 A
Bauteil: LED1R H09 0003
Betriebsnr.: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Datensatz: EV_LEDModRightMELCOAU736 001004
ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW48.rod
VCID: 167434A2F8092D87916-8042
Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
Ende--(Dauer: 02:44, Batt.-Spannung Start/Ende: 11.7V/11.8V. VIgn 11.9V)---




Hope it helps you :-)

Regards

kamold
06-01-2018, 03:05 PM
Hi

There is an autoscan from a VW Aerton with factory-DLA:



Hope it helps you :-)

RegardsThanks for that are you also able to get an adaptation channel map from the A5 camera module and 4b led controller?

murmeltier
06-01-2018, 10:13 PM
Thanks for that are you also able to get an adaptation channel map from the A5 camera module and 4b led controller?

Yeah of course. I uploaded everything to my website, because it wasn't possible to upload a *.csv file here...
VW Aerton, MY2017 - VCDSSchweiz (https://www.vcdsschweiz.ch/en/vw-aerton-my2017/)

Hope it will help you. Until now I never had a MY2018 to code...

Blackpaladin67
06-01-2018, 11:08 PM
Hi Guys
There's also a rainy day mode with the Arteon which can be set to auto to change the light setting when it's raining. Only have OBD11 but if you need a download, just tell me how to do it, and happy to share as you all have helped immensely with your posts to get a bunch of stuff working on my Arty.

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jmj
09-01-2018, 11:37 AM
If this option is available in the Golf and Tiguan... why does the Passat miss out?

kamold
09-01-2018, 11:44 AM
If this option is available in the Golf and Tiguan... why does the Passat miss out?If you read the thread you'll find it was first enabled on Passats

zzc2010
09-01-2018, 11:51 AM
I enabled Rain Mode once. Barely noticed the difference in the rain. Checked full speced EU Passat and they don’t enable this function. Thus, I kept it disabled.

The thing is Passat has fog lights and all the Audi and Arteon don’t (all weather lights instead).

Rain Mode and All Weather lights can be easily replaced by fog lights, can’t they?

Same functions different looks.

You can enable all modes and weather lights in the codings. You need to try and see if there are differences.


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Wynnston
13-01-2018, 08:42 AM
So does anyone have a definitive answer on whether the AU Passat has all the right hardware for full DLA?

kamold
13-01-2018, 08:57 AM
So does anyone have a definitive answer on whether the AU Passat has all the right hardware for full DLA?We believe zzc2010 has it fully enabled with the DLA parameter set for the headlight controller installed.

Jap
13-01-2018, 09:46 AM
I have a UK golf 7 facelift with DLA from the factory (central electronics is adaptions only no long coding) and OBDeleven, do you need me to look at anything?

Wynnston
19-01-2018, 10:03 PM
We believe zzc2010 has it fully enabled with the DLA parameter set for the headlight controller installed.

zzc2010. So from your car, do you believe you have all the right gear, or is it a hybrid approach that is mimicking DLA? I successfully enabled it on my car and it appeared to do all the right stuff, but I did get flashed a few times so I was concerned it wasn't using rollers and instead just moving the AFS around a bit.

zzc2010
19-01-2018, 10:22 PM
zzc2010. So from your car, do you believe you have all the right gear, or is it a hybrid approach that is mimicking DLA? I successfully enabled it on my car and it appeared to do all the right stuff, but I did get flashed a few times so I was concerned it wasn't using rollers and instead just moving the AFS around a bit.

Coding only does the appearance.

It seems to work but the parameters are not right. That’s why you got flashed. In my test driving, the high beam shade (the U) was way too close to the cars nearby. They are not right and blinding others for sure. I told a lot of forum members it is very dangerous. Do not do the coding only.

If you have some knowledges of robotics you should understand why parameters are so important.

I have no answers whether mine is mimicking or not because there is no DLA officially in AUS excepting Arteon.

All we did were just taking the risk and trying the new stuffs.

I can not give you any conclusive answers really.

From my observing of activating all the functions after productions from VAG, a VCP could be the right tool.

Neal

Wynnston
19-01-2018, 11:07 PM
Coding only does the appearance.

It seems to work but the parameters are not right. That’s why you got flashed. In my test driving, the high beam shade (the U) was way too close to the cars nearby. They are not right and blinding others for sure. I told a lot of forum members it is very dangerous. Do not do the coding only.

If you have some knowledges of robotics you should understand why parameters are so important.

I have no answers whether mine is mimicking or not because there is no DLA officially in AUS excepting Arteon.

All we did were just taking the risk and trying the new stuffs.

I can not give you any conclusive answers really.

From my observing of activating all the functions after productions from VAG, a VCP could be the right tool.

Neal

Yeah, I wasn't certain it was right either and did notice that the cutout was way too close to other objects so I reverted all my settings. The last thing I want to do is blind someone and make them have an accident.

zzc2010
19-01-2018, 11:08 PM
Yeah, I wasn't certain it was right either and did notice that the cutout was way too close to other objects so I reverted all my settings. The last thing I want to do is blind someone and make them have an accident.

You did the right thing!

Have fun investigating.

Cheers


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Rocket36
22-01-2018, 10:21 PM
So if the LED headlights we have are capable of something, why isn't it enabled? That doesn't make much sense. Even the basics of auto-dipping high beams. I have a 2012 Jeep that does that! (albeit not perfect)

zzc2010
22-01-2018, 11:31 PM
So if the LED headlights we have are capable of something, why isn't it enabled? That doesn't make much sense. Even the basics of auto-dipping high beams. I have a 2012 Jeep that does that! (albeit not perfect)

Then you will have a Audi with VW pricetag. More on marketing. VW is competing with Toyota or so in AUS.

jmj
23-01-2018, 07:32 AM
I notice that Dynamic Light Assist is standard on the Arteon and included with the driver assistance package on some Golfs.

Rocket36
23-01-2018, 07:36 AM
Then you will have a Audi with VW pricetag. More on marketing. VW is competing with Toyota or so in AUS.

LOL! Not a chance! After just testing the Audi, Volvo, Merc and Skoda and having hired a Toyota recently, VW is easily as good as other Euros. They’re just not ridiculously overpriced because of a badge. Take the XC60 as an example... Same specs and with some EXTRA features on the VW, the VW literally misses heads up display and vented/cooling front seats. It has EVERYTHING else the $80,000+ XC60 has. VW ACC and Lane Assist are easily as good. And all for $30,000 less. Price and badge do not mean it’s not in the same class. It absolutely is. The so called “premium” name plates of Europe were a let down because when I was quoted, I expected soooooo much more. VW is bang on in terms of value for money.

zzc2010
23-01-2018, 07:42 AM
LOL! Not a chance! After just testing the Audi, Volvo, Merc and Skoda and having hired a Toyota recently, VW is easily as good as other Euros. They’re just not ridiculously overpriced because of a badge. Take the XC60 as an example... Same specs and with some EXTRA features on the VW, the VW literally misses heads up display and vented/cooling front seats. It has EVERYTHING else the $80,000+ XC60 has. VW ACC and Lane Assist are easily as good. And all for $30,000 less. Price and badge do not mean it’s not in the same class. It absolutely is. The so called “premium” name plates of Europe were a let down because when I was quoted, I expected soooooo much more. VW is bang on in terms of value for money.

Clearly what middle class saying. In the premium market, they don’t talk about value. XD


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kamold
23-01-2018, 07:48 AM
LOL! Not a chance! After just testing the Audi, Volvo, Merc and Skoda and having hired a Toyota recently, VW is easily as good as other Euros. They’re just not ridiculously overpriced because of a badge. Take the XC60 as an example... Same specs and with some EXTRA features on the VW, the VW literally misses heads up display and vented/cooling front seats. It has EVERYTHING else the $80,000+ XC60 has. VW ACC and Lane Assist are easily as good. And all for $30,000 less. Price and badge do not mean it’s not in the same class. It absolutely is. The so called “premium” name plates of Europe were a let down because when I was quoted, I expected soooooo much more. VW is bang on in terms of value for money.Most of the components (like radar modules, cameras, abs modules etc) are the same as they are made by the same suppliers like Bosch, Continental or TWR etc.

They are calibrated to the car manufacturers' requirements but the hardware is essentially off the shelf.

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Rocket36
23-01-2018, 07:52 AM
Clearly what middle class saying. In the premium market, they don’t talk about value. XD


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Fair point that one! I don’t think it’s smart to spend $30k just to be able to say “I drive a XXXXXXX”.

zzc2010
23-01-2018, 07:53 AM
Fair point that one! I don’t think it’s smart to spend $30k just to be able to say “I drive a XXXXXXX”.

Otherwise you won’t buy a VW. Haha. Picking up options in premium brands is a hell of pain in AxX.


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murmeltier
23-02-2018, 07:22 AM
Hey guys

I have an update for the DLA. Try this coding for the 4B:


00 00 00 05 01 00 07 4A 03 10 6F 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


I will update my website www.ascoding.ch (http://www.ascoding.ch) as soon as possible with the new coding :-)
Regards

Wynnston
23-02-2018, 09:15 PM
Hey guys

I have an update for the DLA. Try this coding for the 4B:


00 00 00 05 01 00 07 4A 03 10 6F 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


I will update my website www.ascoding.ch (http://www.ascoding.ch) as soon as possible with the new coding :-)
Regards

What does that change? Does it fix the presentation and the roller shutter behaviour?

murmeltier
23-02-2018, 09:28 PM
What does that change? Does it fix the presentation and the roller shutter behaviour?

No, it fixes the error message when the DLA isn't working. I heard about two VW Tourans with the problem and with this coding, it should work.

Wynnston
23-02-2018, 09:32 PM
No, it fixes the error message when the DLA isn't working. I heard about two VW Tourans with the problem and with this coding, it should work.

Ah ok. Thanks.

I think most of the B8 owners that tried this didn't get an error, it's just that our Australian delivered models don't have the correct parameters to work legally.

murmeltier
26-02-2018, 04:26 AM
Ah ok. Thanks.

I think most of the B8 owners that tried this didn't get an error, it's just that our Australian delivered models don't have the correct parameters to work legally.

Ah, i see! :-)

Rocket36
26-02-2018, 10:14 AM
I don't want lights that automatically turn high beam on and off. I want lights that black out the high beam from the spot where the oncoming car is so the high beam can stay on and illuminate around it.

Having automatic high beam on/off I find it never works as it should. Turns off when there's no cars and sometimes stays on when there is.

zzc2010
26-02-2018, 10:17 AM
I don't want lights that automatically turn high beam on and off. I want lights that black out the high beam from the spot where the oncoming car is so the high beam can stay on and illuminate around it.

Having automatic high beam on/off I find it never works as it should. Turns off when there's no cars and sometimes stays on when there is.

DLA is your active blocking you are talking about.


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Rocket36
26-02-2018, 10:58 AM
DLA is your active blocking you are talking about.

Hmmmm... Reading through, it reads to me as though it's auto on/off.

If it's proper dynamic, then I want to turn it on for sure.

zzc2010
26-02-2018, 11:00 AM
Hmmmm... Reading through, it reads to me as though it's auto on/off.

Light Assist - auto on/off

Dynamic Light Assist - auto on/off + active shuttering.


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Rocket36
26-02-2018, 02:38 PM
Yeah OK. So How do I enable DLA? And don't say with OBD11 or whatever. Who can do it for me in Melbourne not a dealer.

Hole46
12-03-2018, 02:14 PM
I read in the instructions for DLA enable, it states “do the basic settings for headlights “. What, where is this (using OBD eleven)?


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Blackpaladin67
12-03-2018, 02:28 PM
I read in the instructions for DLA enable, it states “do the basic settings for headlights “. What, where is this (using OBD eleven)?


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Hole46
12-03-2018, 02:30 PM
Means you need to buy an obd2 programmer

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Pass.


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DR074
16-03-2018, 08:18 AM
Pass.


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Yeah, but means you get to unlock heaps of features that would normally cost way more than the device.

Rocket36
16-03-2018, 10:52 AM
Yeah, but means you get to unlock heaps of features that would normally cost way more than the device.

Only if you know what you're doing. You also end up being able to seriously screw things up!

FarQ
16-03-2018, 01:38 PM
Is this available on the Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg?

zzc2010
16-03-2018, 01:48 PM
Is this available on the Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg?

No you don’t have the LED High.


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doc_777
16-03-2018, 01:50 PM
No you don’t have the LED High.


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high and low are both LED on the Alltrack Wolfsburg.

zzc2010
16-03-2018, 01:54 PM
high and low are both LED on the Alltrack Wolfsburg.

No I mean the model.

Wolfe Passat don’t have lens and moving modules.


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FarQ
16-03-2018, 04:27 PM
No I mean the model.

Wolfe Passat don’t have lens and moving modules.


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ok, thought it might as when the LED headlights come on they start in a higher position and move down....

zzc2010
16-03-2018, 05:40 PM
ok, thought it might as when the LED headlights come on they start in a higher position and move down....

Yes level only. Y Axis No X Axis movements.

No AFS.


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Rocket36
19-03-2018, 01:58 PM
One of the reasons I didn't buy an Alltrack Wolfe... There's no reason it shouldn't have the same kit as the 206 R-Line.

zzc2010
19-03-2018, 02:02 PM
One of the reasons I didn't buy an Alltrack Wolfe... There's no reason it shouldn't have the same kit as the 206 R-Line.

That’s right! Strongly agree.


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raven2k1
16-07-2018, 04:00 PM
Hey guys

I have an update for the DLA. Try this coding for the 4B:


00 00 00 05 01 00 07 4A 03 10 6F 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


I will update my website www.ascoding.ch (http://www.ascoding.ch) as soon as possible with the new coding :-)
Regards

Just did the mod on my 2018 Arteon - it works with just byte10 - no need to do extra modifications.
The only issue I had was with the headlights adjustment which did not start - but hitting stop seemed to save...
Thank you !!

Jondalar
16-07-2018, 05:16 PM
I had full Adaptive headlights on my previous car, pretty pointless IMHO. The LED's on the Wolfsberg give better light. The swiveling when cornering was also known to induce motion sickness in some.


One of the reasons I didn't buy an Alltrack Wolfe... There's no reason it shouldn't have the same kit as the 206 R-Line.

golfi_vend
22-03-2019, 07:52 AM
I didn't quite catch the thread if there was definite answer.

But! My 2 good friends just acquired this function in their cars. First car is 2015 Passat B8 with module 55, where we did Driver Assist Camera retrofit and second is 2018 Arteon with camera from factory, but no DLA, module 4B.

On both cars it was possible to activate DLA options just with coding/adaption. Both car owners complained that DLA doesn't work like their previous car DLA worked(Passat B7 and CC respectively).

I loaded VCP and both module datasets included option for DLA. Also headlight start pattern changed to check the DLA functionality.

B8:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/03/B8DLA-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/YGXHBc4x)


Arteon:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/03/arteonDLA-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yg6HG6Nd)

So per our testing, parameters are a MUST!

dArK5HaD0w
23-03-2019, 11:34 AM
I didn't quite catch the thread if there was definite answer.

But! My 2 good friends just acquired this function in their cars. First car is 2015 Passat B8 with module 55, where we did Driver Assist Camera retrofit and second is 2018 Arteon with camera from factory, but no DLA, module 4B.

On both cars it was possible to activate DLA options just with coding/adaption. Both car owners complained that DLA doesn't work like their previous car DLA worked(Passat B7 and CC respectively).

I loaded VCP and both module datasets included option for DLA. Also headlight start pattern changed to check the DLA functionality.

B8:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/03/B8DLA-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/YGXHBc4x)


Arteon:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/03/arteonDLA-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yg6HG6Nd)

So per our testing, parameters are a MUST!

wow.....this is exactly wat i need for my SLA (DLA equivalent for Skoda) retrofit in my Superb.
I need the parameter set uploaded into my existing 4B module.
similar to the Passat B8 in ur pic above.

i've got the SLA headlights and the correct AFS slave modules for each headlight.
but my existing 4B module doesn't have the parameters for "AFS_with_MDA".
i've got a full write-up here (https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?17243-Superb-3-Xenon-high-retrofit) on RossTech forums.

would b really great if i can get some advise/assistance from u.
Kamold has been of great assistance thus far, and he's advise is exactly that - that we need to upload the 4b parameters (which includes DLA/SLA) to my car.

golfi_vend
24-03-2019, 01:52 AM
If You feel comfortable around VAS5054a cable, then give me PM. Maybe we can work this out together with Kamold.

Wynnston
28-03-2019, 09:36 AM
If You feel comfortable around VAS5054a cable, then give me PM. Maybe we can work this out together with Kamold.

I'm interested too. But I'm in WA. Is there anyone over here that I could pay to do it?

kamold
28-03-2019, 08:25 PM
You can buy a Vas clone for $80

dArK5HaD0w
29-03-2019, 09:04 PM
If You feel comfortable around VAS5054a cable, then give me PM. Maybe we can work this out together with Kamold.

No, I've never used VCP - sorry.
I only have vcds.

I'm planning to meet up with Kamold on the coming Easter weekend - hoping to sort it out then :-)

dArK5HaD0w
11-05-2019, 09:34 PM
Finally got some good news to report - the final piece to the puzzle, the AFS_MDF data file, was successfully loaded, via ODIS, into the 4B module and the SLA (Skoda's version of DLA) functionality is now fully operational.

No errors. wooOoot

I went for a quick test drive and its certainly doing the fancy masking with the auto high beams, as expected.

A BIG BIG thanks to Kamold and Magnus with their assistance, and patience in sourcing the parameter file.


zzc2010
11-05-2019, 11:50 PM
Finally got some good news to report - the final piece to the puzzle, the AFS_MDF data file, was successfully loaded, via ODIS, into the 4B module and the SLA (Skoda's version of DLA) functionality is now fully operational.

No errors. wooOoot

I went for a quick test drive and its certainly doing the fancy masking with the auto high beams, as expected.

A BIG BIG thanks to Kamold and Magnus with their assistance, and patience in sourcing the parameter file.


Great to have a Superb with SLA


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Wynnston
12-05-2019, 10:28 AM
Is there anyone on here from WA that's got the tools. I am not fond of buying knock-off cables and the real deal is expensive just for a single coding job.

kamold
12-05-2019, 02:21 PM
Maybe you could sell it on after using it, or form a consortium of other guys in your same situation (only need it for a single use) and send it on to them once you've used it?

Wynnston
18-05-2019, 07:16 AM
Maybe you could sell it on after using it, or form a consortium of other guys in your same situation (only need it for a single use) and send it on to them once you've used it?

Good idea. "Kamold, the voice of logic and reason" :P

phonebooth
08-07-2019, 01:38 AM
So I had a crack at this tonight after building up what I thought was enough knowledge to attempt.

2019 Tiguan Highline w/ R-Line + Sound and Vision pack. Correct headlight assembly for DLA.

Following these instructions: Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - from MY 2017 - AS.Coding (https://www.ascoding.ch/en/activating-dynamic-light-assist-dla/)

Module 09 - Central Electrics
Erweiterte_Fernlichtsteuerung
New value: AFS, FLA, Fernlicht (GLW,MDF)
The other two requirements were already set to present due to HBA already being active.

A5 Front Sensors Driver Assistance System
New value: 000307060000010100022346C150A90098000E300040

4B Multifunction Module
New value: 000000050900084E07004F010A000000000000000000000000 0000000000

I then hopped out the car, cleared the headlight fault, ran basic settings, acknowledged the basic settings & cleared the headlight fault again. It cleared and all seemed good.

Jumped back in the car, saw that Dynamic Light Assist was ticked in the head unit. Pushed the high beam stalk forward and received "Light assist error"

I tried to follow the next steps in the guide if you received a light assist error. I completed the coding but was unable clear the headlight fault and run basic settings. OBD Eleven kept saying that there were minor errors preventing it from running.

Any help is appreciated.

kamold
08-07-2019, 10:04 AM
I am not sure it will work without a proper parameter set for the 4B multifunction module....this has been my experience with both Passat B8 and Superb 3 DLA.

Hole46
08-07-2019, 10:46 AM
So I had a crack at this tonight after building up what I thought was enough knowledge to attempt.

2019 Tiguan Highline w/ R-Line + Sound and Vision pack. Correct headlight assembly for DLA.

Following these instructions: Activate Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) - from MY 2017 - AS.Coding (https://www.ascoding.ch/en/activating-dynamic-light-assist-dla/)

Module 09 - Central Electrics
Erweiterte_Fernlichtsteuerung
New value: AFS, FLA, Fernlicht (GLW,MDF)
The other two requirements were already set to present due to HBA already being active.

A5 Front Sensors Driver Assistance System
New value: 000307060000010100022346C150A90098000E300040

4B Multifunction Module
New value: 000000050900084E07004F010A000000000000000000000000 0000000000

I then hopped out the car, cleared the headlight fault, ran basic settings, acknowledged the basic settings & cleared the headlight fault again. It cleared and all seemed good.

Jumped back in the car, saw that Dynamic Light Assist was ticked in the head unit. Pushed the high beam stalk forward and received "Light assist error"

I tried to follow the next steps in the guide if you received a light assist error. I completed the coding but was unable clear the headlight fault and run basic settings. OBD Eleven kept saying that there were minor errors preventing it from running.

Any help is appreciated.

The 4B module long coding on mine is
000000050107104F010A0000000000000000000000000000



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phonebooth
08-07-2019, 12:31 PM
The 4B module long coding on mine is
000000050107104F010A0000000000000000000000000000



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That's very different to mine. What car do you have?


I am not sure it will work without a proper parameter set for the 4B multifunction module....this has been my experience with both Passat B8 and Superb 3 DLA.

By parameter set you mean the basic set of available functions programmed into the module from the factory? Sorry, newbie here.

dArK5HaD0w
08-07-2019, 12:35 PM
i also had the "Light Assist" fault after i retrofitted the SLA (DLA for Skoda).
once the correct 4B parameter files was uploaded (via ODIS), thanks to @Kamold, it was all good.

there r 3 types of parameter files for 4B:-
1. Level Control Only
2. AFS
3. AFS with MDF

46744

mine had the "AFS" parameter file from factory.
we uploaded "AFS_with_MDF", and all was good after.

on some cars, VCP can do it.

46743

Hole46
08-07-2019, 02:25 PM
That's very different to mine. What car do you have?



By parameter set you mean the basic set of available functions programmed into the module from the factory? Sorry, newbie here.

2017 Tiguan R-Line 162


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phonebooth
08-07-2019, 02:43 PM
This is probably spanning a bit beyond my capability. I don't think OBD Eleven is capable of uploading a parameter set, nor do I know how to do it.

Hole46 - did you need to upload the parameter set dArK5HaD0w and kamold are referring to?

Hole46
08-07-2019, 02:45 PM
2017 Tiguan R-Line 162


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Sorry, just checked my OBD11 history, my 4B coding is
000000050100085607104F010A000000000000000000000000 00000000000, must have missed a few numbers.


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Hole46
08-07-2019, 02:49 PM
This is probably spanning a bit beyond my capability. I don't think OBD Eleven is capable of uploading a parameter set, nor do I know how to do it.

Hole46 - did you need to upload the parameter set dArK5HaD0w and kamold are referring to?

No, no parameters uploaded, just used the instructions about five times with the usual “Light assist “ & AFS errors. Can be frustrating.


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dArK5HaD0w
08-07-2019, 02:50 PM
Sorry, just checked my OBD11 history, my 4B coding is
000000050100085607104F010A000000000000000000000000 00000000000, must have missed a few numbers.


Even if u sort out the long coding, it won't work unless u upload the correct 4B parameter file.

Once u have the file, then u will either need VCP or ODIS to upload it.
VCP couldn't do it for me, but ODIS was able to.

phonebooth
08-07-2019, 03:40 PM
No, no parameters uploaded, just used the instructions about five times with the usual “Light assist “ & AFS errors. Can be frustrating.


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I've just re-traced my steps offline in OBD Eleven and I still can't see where I'm going wrong. Very strange that it's possible in the 2017 Tiguan without any parameter sets but not in a 2019.

I'll re-try again tonight in a live state. This might sound silly but I did the coding with the lights off (DRLs on). I assume that's correct/doesn't make a difference?

Cheers

EDIT


Even if u sort out the long coding, it won't work unless u upload the correct 4B parameter file.

Once u have the file, then u will either need VCP or ODIS to upload it.
VCP couldn't do it for me, but ODIS was able to.

Must've got this in as I was writing my reply. Might not bother re-trying tonight then!

dArK5HaD0w
08-07-2019, 04:00 PM
p.s. when u see "Dynamic Light Assist" option in the infotainment, it could mean either HBA (high beam assist) or DLA (dynamic light assist) is enabled.

HBA does not require uploading of 4B parameter files.
DLA does require uploading of 4B parameter files, unless it was pre-loaded from factory, which i believe the Arteons and the newer Golfs are.
i don't know if the Tiguan fits in the same bucket too.

phonebooth
08-07-2019, 04:08 PM
I have HBA active at the moment (had it activated prior to attempting DLA) - that works perfectly and appears as "Light Assist" in the head unit. When I coded (or attempted to) DLA, it appeared as "Dynamic Light Assist"

Hole46
08-07-2019, 04:14 PM
I've just re-traced my steps offline in OBD Eleven and I still can't see where I'm going wrong. Very strange that it's possible in the 2017 Tiguan without any parameter sets but not in a 2019.

I'll re-try again tonight in a live state. This might sound silly but I did the coding with the lights off (DRLs on). I assume that's correct/doesn't make a difference?

Cheers

EDIT



Must've got this in as I was writing my reply. Might not bother re-trying tonight then!

With me, it was just persistence, if you managed to change the coding in 09 toAFS, FLA, Fernlicht (GLW,MDF), you shouldn’t need to change any parameters.


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kamold
08-07-2019, 05:12 PM
Whilst it is entirely possible that the 4b multifunction controller has the DLA parameter set from factory, with it disabled just by coding, I find this unlikely.
Even if it's coded correctly and not faulting, is it actually properly performing DLA functions as opposed to HBA?
For one it won't have the correct startup sequence (side to side, down and up, then masking inside to out).
It's very difficult to do but if possible could you show a video of DLA functionality?

Hole46
08-07-2019, 05:31 PM
Whilst it is entirely possible that the 4b multifunction controller has the DLA parameter set from factory, with it disabled just by coding, I find this unlikely.
Even if it's coded correctly and not faulting, is it actually properly performing DLA functions as opposed to HBA?
For one it won't have the correct startup sequence (side to side, down and up, then masking inside to out).
It's very difficult to do but if possible could you show a video of DLA functionality?

It’s not HBA, I had that enabled previous to DLA, and the startup sequence is different, similar to what you mention.


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kamold
08-07-2019, 05:49 PM
That's a bonus.
When we enabled it in a B8 previously the startup sequence didn't change until the parameter set was loaded.
So at some point in the production cycle they must have changed the configuration so that the 4B controllers so that they are pre-loaded with DLA parameter set.

dArK5HaD0w
08-07-2019, 06:35 PM
that is a bonus indeed - getting away without requiring the MDF parameter file to be uploaded.

p.s. this is how the DLA looks like on start-up.....

https://youtu.be/Yu1Hpecfv10

and in action......

https://youtu.be/gd_y-yimVx0

Ozsko
08-07-2019, 11:34 PM
I really like the way it operates with one question. If you are following a car on a long straight, say 300/400 metres behind with no oncoming traffic will it shade that car from full high beam? Has anyone tried the experiment?

zzc2010
08-07-2019, 11:42 PM
I really like the way it operates with one question. If you are following a car on a long straight, say 300/400 metres behind with no oncoming traffic will it shade that car from full high beam? Has anyone tried the experiment?

Yes. That’s the U shape of high beam. DLA operates when the car is higher than 65km/h, high beam assist auto triggered and the environment is dark enough. Also, not in eco mode. If the car sense itself can not shade the cars, it won’t use high beam.


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phonebooth
09-07-2019, 12:10 AM
Tried again tonight, still no luck. Wondering if I have to undo my coding for High Beam Assist then try? Perhaps it's conflicting.

If all else fails, I'll admit defeat and move on.

Hole46
09-07-2019, 07:39 AM
Tried again tonight, still no luck. Wondering if I have to undo my coding for High Beam Assist then try? Perhaps it's conflicting.

If all else fails, I'll admit defeat and move on.

I admitted defeat about three times, but every time I thought “I’ll give it one more try.”


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dArK5HaD0w
09-07-2019, 09:14 AM
Yes. That’s the U shape of high beam. DLA operates when the car is higher than 65km/h, high beam assist auto triggered and the environment is dark enough. Also, not in eco mode. If the car sense itself can not shade the cars, it won’t use high beam.


+1.
however mine activates above 40 km/h.

LED (matrix) headlights, like that on VW, will mask more accurately.
on my Superb, being bi-xenon, uses rollers and shutters to do the masking - hence not as "flexible" as those used in the VW stable.

phonebooth
09-07-2019, 02:14 PM
I admitted defeat about three times, but every time I thought “I’ll give it one more try.”


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I really can't see where I'm going wrong. I've got someone that's going to try it for me with VCDS to see if it makes a difference. Beginning to think they've changed something in the MY19 cars where that 4B parameter set isn't included.

zzc2010
09-07-2019, 04:27 PM
+1.
however mine activates above 40 km/h.

LED (matrix) headlights, like that on VW, will mask more accurately.
on my Superb, being bi-xenon, uses rollers and shutters to do the masking - hence not as "flexible" as those used in the VW stable.

Keep an eye on the high temperatures using high beams at lower speed. I got some high temperature errors when using DLA in dark city roads. Probably too busy for the beams to high low left right. Then, I turn to use DLA when it’s nice long dark high speed roads. The LEDs has some specific modes too so it illuminates quite well generally for example city, high way and rain modes.


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Hillbilly
09-07-2019, 05:46 PM
I have mine coded supposedly correctly for High Beam Assist but am somewhat disappointed as all it does is drop high beam into dip mode with traffic oncoming and go back to high afterwards.

When the lights come on in the garage they do the dance but do NOT put the two patches up high like in the Skoda video, so therefore dont do the blackout like it does. Mine dip on both sides

phonebooth
09-07-2019, 07:50 PM
I have mine coded supposedly correctly for High Beam Assist but am somewhat disappointed as all it does is drop high beam into dip mode with traffic oncoming and go back to high afterwards.

When the lights come on in the garage they do the dance but do NOT put the two patches up high like in the Skoda video, so therefore dont do the blackout like it does. Mine dip on both sides

Have you tried the linked instructions in the first post? I'd be interested to see if you have some success.

I've tried to compare instructions from various forums, all slightly different, all fail. I'm in the 4B missing parameter set bucket kamold and dArK5HaD0w mentioned I think!

Hillbilly
09-07-2019, 08:38 PM
Have you tried the linked instructions in the first post? I'd be interested to see if you have some success.

I've tried to compare instructions from various forums, all slightly different, all fail. I'm in the 4B missing parameter set bucket kamold and dArK5HaD0w mentioned I think!

No because I wonder why this is being discussed in a PASSAT forum when we have TIGUANS. Also I only have an OBDEleven , not a vcds. It seems the instructions are for a Passat which is may be not the same as the Tiguan and my dealers workshop manager did say our lights do not have the capacity to do that.

phonebooth
09-07-2019, 08:52 PM
It seemed like the most mature thread on the topic. If you read back through the pages in this thread there are a couple of people with Mk2 Tiguans that have successfully activated it. The Tiguan Allspace in AU comes stock with DLA activated (my brother just bought one). From reading other threads I have the "mid" beam LED lights which are DLA capable.

I have been doing all the coding with OBD Eleven, it can see the required modules and do the required changes. The only thing it can't do is upload a parameter set which some users have said may be required. You'll need the pro version to access long coding.

dArK5HaD0w
09-07-2019, 08:53 PM
Keep an eye on the high temperatures using high beams at lower speed. I got some high temperature errors when using DLA in dark city roads. Probably too busy for the beams to high low left right. Then, I turn to use DLA when it’s nice long dark high speed roads. The LEDs has some specific modes too so it illuminates quite well generally for example city, high way and rain modes.


As I mentioned earlier - the Superb has Bi-xenons, not LEDs like VW.
The xenon bulb is always on. It's the rollers n shutters that do the high beam masking trickery.
So no possible heating issues that u describe off.
With VW, it's the matrix LEDs that do the trickery.

phonebooth
10-07-2019, 01:44 AM
So I had some success tonight. I managed to get DLA activated albeit with 3 errors. I had to omit some of the extra coding on page 2 of the instructions, specifically "byte 8 - binary 03". That prevented me from running the basic settings on the headlights.

Check left low beam light - cycling the ignition cleared this
Check right low beam light - cycling the ignition cleared this
AFS (cornering light) error - unable to clear this one. Will need to research more.

Also I can confirm that the LED light "startup dance" is different with DLA activated. You can clearly see it has two square blocks. I saw it after acknowledging the basic settings and clearing the headlight "no basic settings" fault in 4B.

Hillbilly
10-07-2019, 07:42 AM
d. You'll need the pro version to access long coding.


Which i have

phonebooth
10-07-2019, 07:56 PM
Ok, tonight we have a complete success. I've managed to get it all activated with no errors!!

2019 Tiguan SWB Highline with Sound & Vision and R-Line packs.

All steps completed with OBD Eleven Pro

My 4B coding below, note I already had HBA activated. That includes Central Electrics 09 Byte 2 bits 0 & 1 enabled. Not sure if that would make a difference or not.

Follow the initial linked instructions until you get to module 4B.
My module 4B value: 000000050900084E07104F050A000000000000000000000000 0000000000

Run basic headlight settings then acknowledge, clear the headlight basic setting fault in 4B - noticed the DLA headlight dance at this point.

After that, I went into the Discover Pro, Menu > Vehicle > Factory Defaults > Lights. Then I soft reset the MIB. Turned the ignition off, turned it back on, started the engine, all working.

Something to note is the cornering lights, despite not showing an error, didn't work until I did the above steps.

I'll get out on the road tonight and give it a whirl.

Hillbilly
11-07-2019, 09:29 PM
I can follow most of that except im unsure how to run basic settings and acknowledge them

I changed the adaptation to AFS,FLA Fernlicht(GLW,MDF) and it did the correct dance, down up flick then out and left the dark patch in the middle then full high beam

But then when i pushed the stalk forward I got an HBA error and the A didnt come up in the headlight assist icon.

Also a soft reset is just turn it off and on again without holding it down till it comes back on?????

My lights like range control seem to be in 55

phonebooth
11-07-2019, 09:54 PM
Hi Hillbilly,

My headlight coding was in module 4B but I believe it's the same as 55.

Before you attempt to run basic settings you should try to clear the headlight basic settings fault in module 55. In OBD Eleven when you're in control unit 55, before you go into long coding you'll see a list of available options (history, adaptions, long coding etc). In that list you'll see basic settings. Tap that menu and you'll see another list. Pick "headlight basic settings" tap and hold the green tick then go back into the previous menu. Select "acknowledge basic settings". After this go back into faults and clear the headlight basic settings fault.

Yep - soft reset is holding down the power button on your head unit until it powers back up.

Hillbilly
12-07-2019, 04:03 PM
Hi Hillbilly,

My headlight coding was in module 4B but I believe it's the same as 55.

Before you attempt to run basic settings you should try to clear the headlight basic settings fault in module 55. In OBD Eleven when you're in control unit 55, before you go into long coding you'll see a list of available options (history, adaptions, long coding etc). In that list you'll see basic settings. Tap that menu and you'll see another list. Pick "headlight basic settings" tap and hold the green tick then go back into the previous menu. Select "acknowledge basic settings". After this go back into faults and clear the headlight basic settings fault.

Yep - soft reset is holding down the power button on your head unit until it powers back up.

Heres the data from 4B


4B Multifunction Module

System description: FCM MQB Low
Software number: 3Q0907338C
Software version: 0345
Hardware number: 3Q0907338C
Hardware version: 002
Serial number: 31101810804244
ODX name: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X
ODX version: 002006
Long coding: 000000050900084E07000F010A000000000000000000000000 0000000000

Trouble codes:
C107E54 - Headlight No basic setting
Active


Have got that fixed and now no faults anywhere Just dont know what to do as lots of light options in there

phonebooth
13-07-2019, 04:38 PM
Let us know how you go after you attempt the instructions I PMd you.

Hillbilly
13-07-2019, 05:08 PM
Let us know how you go after you attempt the instructions I PMd you.

Thanks muchly I will get onto it possibly Monday as have visitors atm

Wynnston
16-07-2019, 08:39 AM
Ok, tonight we have a complete success. I've managed to get it all activated with no errors!!

2019 Tiguan SWB Highline with Sound & Vision and R-Line packs.

All steps completed with OBD Eleven Pro

My 4B coding below, note I already had HBA activated. That includes Central Electrics 09 Byte 2 bits 0 & 1 enabled. Not sure if that would make a difference or not.

Follow the initial linked instructions until you get to module 4B.
My module 4B value: 000000050900084E07104F050A000000000000000000000000 0000000000

Run basic headlight settings then acknowledge, clear the headlight basic setting fault in 4B - noticed the DLA headlight dance at this point.

After that, I went into the Discover Pro, Menu > Vehicle > Factory Defaults > Lights. Then I soft reset the MIB. Turned the ignition off, turned it back on, started the engine, all working.

Something to note is the cornering lights, despite not showing an error, didn't work until I did the above steps.

I'll get out on the road tonight and give it a whirl.

Hey, I know this is on a Tig but I managed to get it working on the Passat too. The downside is that we all think it still required further programming to work properly, not just module parameter changes, but actual programming.

I could get it to do all the stuff, except it wouldn't do the DLA style dance at start-up, just the normal one. It was also a bit slow to react to oncoming cars and cars from behind. It did it, but it was slow. I came to the conclusion that it wasn't quite working as it should and reverted it as I didn't want to blind someone in traffic. I understand from previous posts that the Tigs and some newer cars might already have this programming present, if it doesn't then you might want to look into getting it put in place before using it.

Happy to share my findings in detail over a PM, otherwise, I too am in Perth and have VCDS if you want to try some different things.

Wynnston
16-07-2019, 08:42 AM
p.s. when u see "Dynamic Light Assist" option in the infotainment, it could mean either HBA (high beam assist) or DLA (dynamic light assist) is enabled.

HBA does not require uploading of 4B parameter files.
DLA does require uploading of 4B parameter files, unless it was pre-loaded from factory, which i believe the Arteons and the newer Golfs are.
i don't know if the Tiguan fits in the same bucket too.

Does anyone in Perth have VCP or ODIS that could help me with this? It's a pretty cool feature that I want to get working properly on my car.

dArK5HaD0w
16-07-2019, 09:39 AM
Hey, I know this is on a Tig but I managed to get it working on the Passat too. The downside is that we all think it still required further programming to work properly, not just module parameter changes, but actual programming.

I could get it to do all the stuff, except it wouldn't do the DLA style dance at start-up, just the normal one. It was also a bit slow to react to oncoming cars and cars from behind. It did it, but it was slow. I came to the conclusion that it wasn't quite working as it should and reverted it as I didn't want to blind someone in traffic. I understand from previous posts that the Tigs and some newer cars might already have this programming present, if it doesn't then you might want to look into getting it put in place before using it.


my understanding is the Passat B8 certainly requires the 4B parameter file to be uploaded, either via VCP or ODIS.
the screenshot below was taken from when a B8 was being activated for DLA, via VCP.

that's how we knew that we needed to do the same thing, but for the Superb.

46814

phonebooth
17-07-2019, 12:33 PM
Does anyone in Perth have VCP or ODIS that could help me with this? It's a pretty cool feature that I want to get working properly on my car.

Hi Wynnston,

I'm Perth based with this working in my car (Tig). Fully activated with startup dance included. I activated it via OBD Eleven (no parameters required).

I'm happy to loan you my OBD Eleven if you want to have a crack? Should work on the newer Tiguans but if you have a Passat probably not much use to you.

Cheers

Hillbilly
17-07-2019, 12:40 PM
Ok, tonight we have a complete success. I've managed to get it all activated with no errors!!

2019 Tiguan SWB Highline with Sound & Vision and R-Line packs.

All steps completed with OBD Eleven Pro

My 4B coding below, note I already had HBA activated. That includes Central Electrics 09 Byte 2 bits 0 & 1 enabled. Not sure if that would make a difference or not.

Follow the initial linked instructions until you get to module 4B.
My module 4B value: 000000050900084E07104F050A000000000000000000000000 0000000000

Run basic headlight settings then acknowledge, clear the headlight basic setting fault in 4B - noticed the DLA headlight dance at this point.

After that, I went into the Discover Pro, Menu > Vehicle > Factory Defaults > Lights. Then I soft reset the MIB. Turned the ignition off, turned it back on, started the engine, all working.

Something to note is the cornering lights, despite not showing an error, didn't work until I did the above steps.

I'll get out on the road tonight and give it a whirl.

Got it done thank you Seems to be doing the right sequence when lights do the dance so will see what happens in the dark tonight

Cleared all the errors as per instructions but when I did a full scan afterwards got 5 faults in control modules They came good after clearing them and they were Light control front left and right, one in 4B, one in A5 and one in 09 but all good now. Cornering lights are working when i turn the wheel in the dark in the garage

Light pattern Light pattern.mp4 - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LfwLK-uIX50UdhJG2T9myef-WRUrEfuR/view?usp=sharing)

phonebooth
17-07-2019, 01:27 PM
Got it done thank you Seems to be doing the right sequence when lights do the dance so will see what happens in the dark tonight

Cleared all the errors as per instructions but when I did a full scan afterwards got 5 faults in control modules They came good after clearing them and they were Light control front left and right, one in 4B, one in A5 and one in 09 but all good now. Cornering lights are working when i turn the wheel in the dark in the garage

Nice one! Glad to see you got it working.

Hillbilly
17-07-2019, 09:14 PM
I noticed in the module for lights there is a setting for PREDICTIVE LIGHTS I wonder if thats what the Superbs have got and what would happen if it was enabled?????
wonder if it would need coding or just turning on

kamold
17-07-2019, 09:56 PM
I noticed in the module for lights there is a setting for PREDICTIVE LIGHTS I wonder if thats what the Superbs have got and what would happen if it was enabled?????
wonder if it would need coding or just turning onPACC predictive ACC is the next level again.
Available on Arteon (have seen it enabled on other cars but a lot of work) it fuses map data with camera and radar to bend lights before an upcoming bend, adjust speed before corners and adjust speed based on road sign recognition...

Wynnston
17-07-2019, 10:08 PM
Hi Wynnston,

I'm Perth based with this working in my car (Tig). Fully activated with startup dance included. I activated it via OBD Eleven (no parameters required).

I'm happy to loan you my OBD Eleven if you want to have a crack? Should work on the newer Tiguans but if you have a Passat probably not much use to you.

Cheers

Hey thanks, but I already have OBDEleven and VCDS. BTW, we have VW group coffee meets every Saturday morning @ Elixir Nedlands (8-10am). There's also a PerthVW Group page which is great for talking to local people about VW stuff too.

Hillbilly
17-07-2019, 10:31 PM
PACC predictive ACC is the next level again.
Available on Arteon (have seen it enabled on other cars but a lot of work) it fuses map data with camera and radar to bend lights before an upcoming bend, adjust speed before corners and adjust speed based on road sign recognition...

Sounds like it might be a bit overpowering if it does all that and the speed sign recognition isnt exactly perfect here as i have seen it put some odd speeds up when in fact they werent anywhere to be seen which makes me think that some of it is done from GPS location.
Have also seen that it apparently gave some drivers motion sickness as it was somewhat disconcerting to see the lights drift sideways and the car wasnt.

Can you remember the coding for the autoretracting drivers seat in a Passat??? I think you told me once about the time of the folding mirrors

dArK5HaD0w
18-07-2019, 08:02 AM
I noticed in the module for lights there is a setting for PREDICTIVE LIGHTS I wonder if thats what the Superbs have got and what would happen if it was enabled?????
wonder if it would need coding or just turning on

Certainly not enabled in the Superb - standard AFS, or SLA.
As Kamold said, I think it requires the TSR in Fusion mode with the maps.

While PACC would b nice to have, I don't want my car determining the speed I take a corner :)

Hillbilly
18-07-2019, 08:28 AM
Certainly not enabled in the Superb - standard AFS, or SLA.
As Kamold said, I think it requires the TSR in Fusion mode with the maps.

While PACC would b nice to have, I don't want my car determining the speed I take a corner :)

Might be the Arteon then but as the Traffic sign recognition is a bit flaky I agree with you.

The other day coming through the roadworks on the Bruce north of Caloundra the icon changed speeds a couple of times when the signs gave a constant 80. At one point was 40 showing, which makes me wonder if the GPS has something to do with it

dArK5HaD0w
18-07-2019, 10:46 AM
Might be the Arteon then but as the Traffic sign recognition is a bit flaky I agree with you.

The other day coming through the roadworks on the Bruce north of Caloundra the icon changed speeds a couple of times when the signs gave a constant 80. At one point was 40 showing, which makes me wonder if the GPS has something to do with it

my TSR is setup to only read speed signs detected by the camera. i.e. not fusion mode.
so the only speed signs it shows on the infotainment or centre cluster r the ones it sees on the road.

Fusion mode uses both GPS map data and the camera.

the RoW map data does not seem to have the necessary data for fusion mode to work properly. at least is the case with the Columbus infotainment unit in Skoda.
hence my TSR is coded/set to "Road Sign Detection" mode.

However, given the Arteon uses the same RoW maps, and they have no issues - maybe the required data does exist in it. I may need to play around elsewhere with the "predictive" settings, that will then make Fusion mode happy. don't know.

Truth b told, i reckon this is a SwaP-controlled feature, controlled by VAG, requiring an activation code for a particular car.

zzc2010
18-07-2019, 11:21 AM
my TSR is setup to only read speed signs detected by the camera. i.e. not fusion mode.
so the only speed signs it shows on the infotainment or centre cluster r the ones it sees on the road.

Fusion mode uses both GPS map data and the camera.

the RoW map data does not seem to have the necessary data for fusion mode to work properly. at least is the case with the Columbus infotainment unit in Skoda.
hence my TSR is coded/set to "Road Sign Detection" mode.

However, given the Arteon uses the same RoW maps, and they have no issues - maybe the required data does exist in it. I may need to play around elsewhere with the "predictive" settings, that will then make Fusion mode happy. don't know.

Truth b told, i reckon this is a SwaP-controlled feature, controlled by VAG, requiring an activation code for a particular car.

Arteons still has a ding and error when startup after activating the TSR.

I remember I saw it in the CC forum.


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Hillbilly
18-07-2019, 11:52 AM
Arteons still has a ding and error when startup after activating the TSR.

I remember I saw it in the CC forum.


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Hole46
18-07-2019, 11:54 AM
Might be the Arteon then but as the Traffic sign recognition is a bit flaky I agree with you.

The other day coming through the roadworks on the Bruce north of Caloundra the icon changed speeds a couple of times when the signs gave a constant 80. At one point was 40 showing, which makes me wonder if the GPS has something to do with it

Mine picks up any speed signs it sees, slip road exit speed signs, etc.


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zzc2010
18-07-2019, 11:59 AM
MY Tiguan doesnt beep or anything at all with TSR

Probably they fixed it on the later models then.

What’s your firmware version of A5 module?



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Hillbilly
18-07-2019, 12:08 PM
Mine picks up any speed signs it sees, slip road exit speed signs, etc.


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So does mine its the ones that ARENT there that are a bother, as in cruising through 80k roadworks and all of a sudden it says 40k and alarm goes off

Hillbilly
18-07-2019, 12:11 PM
Probably they fixed it on the later models then.

What’s your firmware version of A5 module?



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Hardware version H09

Software number 3Q0980654A

Software version 072

serial 31071812k12020

phonebooth
18-07-2019, 04:52 PM
Hardware version H09

Software number 3Q0980654A

Software version 072

serial 31071812k12020

Mine doesn't chime but has a visual alert in the AID just after I start driving.

zzc2010
18-07-2019, 05:00 PM
So does mine its the ones that ARENT there that are a bother, as in cruising through 80k roadworks and all of a sudden it says 40k and alarm goes off

You can turn off the alarm in your settings.

The car should decrease the speed from 80 to 40 if yours is working when using ACC.

Yours probably is not.


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zzc2010
18-07-2019, 05:01 PM
Mine doesn't chime but has a visual alert in the AID just after I start driving.

The chime is off then.


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phonebooth
18-07-2019, 05:14 PM
The chime is off then.


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What makes you say that? Hillbilly has the same. My chime works for everything else; seat belts, doors, gear, ignition etc.

zzc2010
18-07-2019, 05:20 PM
What makes you say that? Hillbilly has the same. My chime works for everything else; seat belts, doors, gear, ignition etc.

So you two’s working or not?

Is it in fusion sign detect?

Errors when drive off little bit or start up?


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Hillbilly
18-07-2019, 05:24 PM
You can turn off the alarm in your settings.

The car should decrease the speed from 80 to 40 if yours is working when using ACC.

Yours probably is not.

Is it in fusion sign detect?

Errors when drive off little bit or start up?


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It s the overspeed alarm for whats on the roadsign and Ive reset it to much higher so I dont get it as much but having to have it 50 over is a bit much

Mine had to change from Road sign Fusion to just Road sign detection to make it work in A5 Adaptation /Road sign detection Fusion Mode

phonebooth
18-07-2019, 05:26 PM
So you two’s working or not?

Is it in fusion sign detect?

Errors when drive off little bit or start up?


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My TSR works fine. It just doesn't chime when I drive away, only a visual alert. It's in "Road Sign Detection" not Fusion.

zzc2010
18-07-2019, 05:40 PM
My TSR works fine. It just doesn't chime when I drive away, only a visual alert. It's in "Road Sign Detection" not Fusion.

Then we are on the same page man.

Only a working fusion TSR is fine.

We are keen on getting TSR to work in fusion.


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zzc2010
18-07-2019, 05:40 PM
It s the overspeed alarm for whats on the roadsign and Ive reset it to much higher so I dont get it as much but having to have it 50 over is a bit much

Mine had to change from Road sign Fusion to just Road sign detection to make it work in A5 Adaptation /Road sign detection Fusion Mode

Same page.

I’m talking about a working fusion TSR.


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Hillbilly
18-07-2019, 08:02 PM
Same page.

I’m talking about a working fusion TSR.


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You are talking confusion. What do you actually mean TSR with GPS as well as camera.

Hillbilly
21-07-2019, 10:01 AM
Just been up the road a little way where there are several different speed zones Heres what happened.

Took off No speed signs Car showed 60 (correct) But!!! no sign

Left shops showed 60 still correct Turned corner onto main road NO SIGN Changed to 70 as I turned.
200m around sweeping corner is the 80 sign stayed at 80 and popped up the "TSR is working in restricted mode" NO SOUND
Turn into off ramp changed to 70 NO SIGN Get to the 80 sign and it changes up.
Shortly after is the 60 sign which it changes to correctly.. It didnt pick up the 100 sign on the left of the right hand road going to the motorway

WTF is going on as it changes to speeds that arent there without a sign anywhere

GPS has historic speed areas still in it?????????. A bloody mystery as it has done the same on the highway at roadworks where it has changed to speeds not shown and no signs to indicate speed anywhere in vision

Heres where I travelled from bottom left to Coles then up to intersection at top centre then left across

and down slip road back to bottom left

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@-26.6169233,153.0811888,1794m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Wynnston
28-07-2019, 08:37 AM
Just been up the road a little way where there are several different speed zones Heres what happened.

Took off No speed signs Car showed 60 (correct) But!!! no sign

Left shops showed 60 still correct Turned corner onto main road NO SIGN Changed to 70 as I turned.
200m around sweeping corner is the 80 sign stayed at 80 and popped up the "TSR is working in restricted mode" NO SOUND
Turn into off ramp changed to 70 NO SIGN Get to the 80 sign and it changes up.
Shortly after is the 60 sign which it changes to correctly.. It didnt pick up the 100 sign on the left of the right hand road going to the motorway

WTF is going on as it changes to speeds that arent there without a sign anywhere

GPS has historic speed areas still in it?????????. A bloody mystery as it has done the same on the highway at roadworks where it has changed to speeds not shown and no signs to indicate speed anywhere in vision

Heres where I travelled from bottom left to Coles then up to intersection at top centre then left across

and down slip road back to bottom left

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@-26.6169233,153.0811888,1794m/data=!3m1!1e3)

The Fusion part means that it's fusion between GPS data and Camera Data. The Camera data is fine but the additional meta data is missing in the maps data for the speed, despite showing it in your main GPS screen. Unless they put the right information in the mapping data for AUS (I highly doubt it) then you're not going to get fusion working without it complaining. *EDIT* I think it has the right data in maps for highways/motorways, just not streets.

Hillbilly
28-07-2019, 08:48 AM
The Fusion part means that it's fusion between GPS data and Camera Data. The Camera data is fine but the additional meta data is missing in the maps data for the speed, despite showing it in your main GPS screen. Unless they put the right information in the mapping data for AUS (I highly doubt it) then you're not going to get fusion working without it complaining. *EDIT* I think it has the right data in maps for highways/motorways, just not streets.

It It only shows the sign icon in the top row of the AID. I understand what Fusion means.

Its just that the incorrect icon appears and there are no signs so where does the info come from.


EDIT

This morning when I got in car in garage a message came up in the AID " No Speed signs Available"

Also first time Ive noticed as I dont have main Nav screen on much that the speed sign appears in top left corner.

Still showing speed signs that arent there

d_nunn88
20-11-2019, 12:34 AM
Hey phonebooth, I’m going to attempt activating DLA tomorrow with my new OBD eleven pro V2. I presume when you say “follow initial linked instructions” you are referring to the ascodings document?

Saul
30-11-2019, 04:36 PM
Does anyone know if the MY20 (AW) Polo GTI (Fully Optioned) for the Aussie market;
Has the hardware to do dynamic light assist??

Not just high beam assist, i.e. can change angle of lighting etc, not just high/low switch.
I'm not sure if it's enabled by default, but there may be the hardware in place for it?

Will be collecting my new Polo GTI in ~1week. Have bought OBD11v2 & may eventually get VCDS.

Hillbilly
30-11-2019, 08:22 PM
Does anyone know if the MY20 (AW) Polo GTI (Fully Optioned) for the Aussie market;
Has the hardware to do dynamic light assist??

Not just high beam assist, i.e. can change angle of lighting etc, not just high/low switch.
I'm not sure if it's enabled by default, but there may be the hardware in place for it?

Will be collecting my new Polo GTI in ~1week. Have bought OBD11v2 & may eventually get VCDS.

Read reply 8 in this thread IT WORKS if you have the correct headlights

my journey to activating DLA on a MY17 Tiguan (https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/my-journey-activating-dla-my17-tiguan-128250.html)

Hillbilly
30-11-2019, 08:23 PM
Hey phonebooth, I’m going to attempt activating DLA tomorrow with my new OBD eleven pro V2. I presume when you say “follow initial linked instructions” you are referring to the ascodings document?


Read reply 8 in this thread

my journey to activating DLA on a MY17 Tiguan (https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f238/my-journey-activating-dla-my17-tiguan-128250.html)

IT DEFINITELY WORKS if you have the correct headlights

zacdaman
10-12-2019, 12:31 PM
Does anyone know if the MY20 (AW) Polo GTI (Fully Optioned) for the Aussie market;
Has the hardware to do dynamic light assist??

Not just high beam assist, i.e. can change angle of lighting etc, not just high/low switch.
I'm not sure if it's enabled by default, but there may be the hardware in place for it?

Will be collecting my new Polo GTI in ~1week. Have bought OBD11v2 & may eventually get VCDS.

Nah, the Polo GTI doesn't have the hardware to do DLA

Saul
16-12-2019, 06:29 PM
Nah, the Polo GTI doesn't have the hardware to do DLA

@zacdaman

I researched all over the net to try and confirm this, but came up with nothing conclusive.
I don't suppose you finger where it's verified, that it's not doable for the Oz MY20 PoloGTI?

Thank-you very much, & BR. :biggrin:

Hillbilly
16-12-2019, 06:42 PM
@zacdaman

I researched all over the net to try and confirm this, but came up with nothing conclusive.
I don't suppose you finger where it's verified, that it's not doable for the Oz MY20 PoloGTI?

Thank-you very much, & BR. :biggrin:

Has your Polo got LED headlights

Saul
16-12-2019, 06:51 PM
Pretty sure that came with the Luxury, S&V, or DAP options I paid for, will confirm later.

Thanks!

Hillbilly
16-12-2019, 07:08 PM
Pretty sure that came with the Luxury, S&V, or DAP options I paid for, will confirm later.

Thanks!

Doesnt quite answer the question

SdvolksArteon
04-01-2020, 01:46 PM
I didn't quite catch the thread if there was definite answer.

But! My 2 good friends just acquired this function in their cars. First car is 2015 Passat B8 with module 55, where we did Driver Assist Camera retrofit and second is 2018 Arteon with camera from factory, but no DLA, module 4B.

On both cars it was possible to activate DLA options just with coding/adaption. Both car owners complained that DLA doesn't work like their previous car DLA worked(Passat B7 and CC respectively).

I loaded VCP and both module datasets included option for DLA. Also headlight start pattern changed to check the DLA functionality.

B8:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/03/B8DLA-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/YGXHBc4x)


Arteon:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/03/arteonDLA-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yg6HG6Nd)

So per our testing, parameters are a MUST!

Did you get an error after uploading those perimeters to the Arteon? I get a Light error left and right front turn signal error and AFS error

dArK5HaD0w
06-01-2020, 11:00 AM
Did you get an error after uploading those perimeters to the Arteon? I get a Light error left and right front turn signal error and AFS error

i had the same Passat B8 parameters successfully loaded to my Superb's 4B module, and it cleared all the Light Assist errors i was getting (after retrofitting SLA/DLA headlights).

SdvolksArteon
06-01-2020, 11:14 AM
i had the same Passat B8 parameters successfully loaded to my Superb's 4B module, and it cleared all the Light Assist errors i was getting (after retrofitting SLA/DLA headlights).

Did you you load all three Parameters? And was it the passat_b8_7p6907357c.zdc file?

dArK5HaD0w
06-01-2020, 08:08 PM
Did you you load all three Parameters? And was it the passat_b8_7p6907357c.zdc file?

No, only the "AFS_MDF" parameter file was loaded.
My car already had normal AFS.

kamold, a forum member here, loaded the file for me. He has access to VCP and ODIS tools, which is required to load the parameter file.

Micky 32
17-02-2020, 10:48 PM
I'm not sure i'd bother with this to be honest. Mine came with it from the factory and if i had a penny for everytime i got flashed i'd be rich! It can be slow to react or it doesn't do a great job of masking. Useless to be honest in the B8 Passat.

dArK5HaD0w
19-02-2020, 06:36 AM
I'm not sure i'd bother with this to be honest. Mine came with it from the factory and if i had a penny for everytime i got flashed i'd be rich! It can be slow to react or it doesn't do a great job of masking. Useless to be honest in the B8 Passat.

Given the Superb shares the same Passat B8 parameter file, I'm surprised.

Maybe ur camera needs recalibration.

I've driven many many hundreds of kms with SLA (aka DLA) on windy roads, as well as highways/freeways and its been pretty good at reacting/masking to oncoming traffic.

zzc2010
19-02-2020, 12:57 PM
Given the Superb shares the same Passat B8 parameter file, I'm surprised.

Maybe ur camera needs recalibration.

I've driven many many hundreds of kms with SLA (aka DLA) on windy roads, as well as highways/freeways and its been pretty good at reacting/masking to oncoming traffic.

I can confirm the DLA works well on my Passat.


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Micky 32
24-02-2020, 03:06 AM
The Passat’s LED lights are brighter than the Superbs xenons. Hence you might not get flashed as much.

dArK5HaD0w
24-02-2020, 06:00 PM
The Passat’s LED lights are brighter than the Superbs xenons. Hence you might not get flashed as much.

Bhahaha....that's a funny!!
LED or Xenon, doesn't matter - it will dazzle an oncoming driver the same.

Yes, the LED "performs better" than Xenons, no doubt, but if the DLA is not masking correctly, or quickly, then u'll get flashed.

Micky 32
25-02-2020, 09:11 AM
Unfortunately the DLA on the Passat in some cases doesn’t mask correctly or quick enough at times.

jgazengel
26-04-2020, 06:08 AM
Finally got some good news to report - the final piece to the puzzle, the AFS_MDF data file, was successfully loaded, via ODIS, into the 4B module and the SLA (Skoda's version of DLA) functionality is now fully operational.

No errors. wooOoot

I went for a quick test drive and its certainly doing the fancy masking with the auto high beams, as expected.

A BIG BIG thanks to Kamold and Magnus with their assistance, and patience in sourcing the parameter file.



Hi, I'm very interesting of activating the MDF on my Passat B8 2017, I already set up everithing but my DLA is not working propely, I'm equiped with ODIS (but not VCP), here you say that you successufully download AFS_MDF file in 4B module with ODIS, could you please give more information about it ?

many thanks for your Help

The frenchy

kamold
26-04-2020, 05:08 PM
You'll need the Passat parameter file, not Superb.
Unfortunately it's available in VCP as a sec file not XML so you can't apply with ODIS.
If you have odis online access it's possible to use a technique to obtain the parameter file.

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jgazengel
27-04-2020, 08:13 PM
You'll need the Passat parameter file, not Superb.
Unfortunately it's available in VCP as a sec file not XML so you can't apply with ODIS.
If you have odis online access it's possible to use a technique to obtain the parameter file.

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ok... never mind I must find someone with VCP who can Help !

maybe one of you come to France for holidays :cool: :P

thank you for replying..

jgazengel
29-04-2020, 02:49 AM
Hi All !

I'm back again...


has anybody ever tried to convert an Odis-e XML dataset file to a VCP one ?

GitHub - jilleb/odis2vcp: Converter for ODIS XML Datasets to VCP XML format (https://github.com/jilleb/odis2vcp)



I found a converter and I am really curious to know !


the problem is that I don't have any xml files. I need to upload the AFS_WITH_MDF dataset in the 4B controler.


does anybody have this xml file, even from superbe, I know dArK5HaD0w does it into a SKODA.


Thanks for helping

dArK5HaD0w
02-05-2020, 05:08 PM
does anybody have this xml file, even from superbe, I know dArK5HaD0w does it into a SKODA.
Thanks for helping

Hey - PM me ur email address and I can send u the Superb 4B parameter file for the AFS_with_MDF.

jgazengel
03-05-2020, 08:25 PM
Hi dArK5HaD0w

I sent you a Mp with my mail.

many thanks, I was desparating waiting for an xml file to see how it 's formated.

all the best to you

jgazengel
04-05-2020, 02:16 AM
Bixenon xml file into Leds headlamp...

the facts :

- I checked the reference of my 4B controler, is the same as the xml file

- I baked up all the 4B coding before transfering the file you sent me.

- I transfered the file with Odis E, all goes fine but...

- I have a defect into the 4B module:
--> event 5081F1[5276145] (SAE code C1081F1) Left HeadLamd power output stage incorectly coded
--> event 5082F1[5276401] (SAE code C1082F1) Right HeadLamd power output stage incorectly coded


the shame is that I forget to backup the sub module 6D coding of each side !

defect in sub Module:
00013[19] SAEC119F00, projector variant not plausible(SOA mismatch)

does anybody have an idea where I can find back the right coding of this two sub 4B controller for Led Headlamps ?

jgazengel
04-05-2020, 03:44 AM
I Have try to cod back again the power output stage (D6 and D7) but when I start coding I receive a message telling it was not possible to "read the controller coding !", all bytes =0 I

I tried to code a value I found on a scan on a forum, HEX "E02400" but rejected ! It feel like the controler is not codable anymore...

maybe if I transfert the right xml file for led Headlamp it reactivate the right coding ??

waiting for any suggestion ... I'm out of ideas ! :facepalm:


Ho My god I even don't have high beam anymore ! :(

kamold
04-05-2020, 08:04 AM
As I said you need the correct parameter file for your vehicle.
This will then also correct the sub modules.
If you cant get the right file you will need to visit a dealer and have them perform software configuration online with ODIS.

jgazengel
04-05-2020, 04:03 PM
thank you Kamold,

this is a bit comforting...


does someone can tell me where to find some xml files ? I've drained all google post without success..

dArK5HaD0w how did you get yours ?

jgazengel
04-05-2020, 08:20 PM
one more thing…
if I transfert the right file with VCP does it code back my D6 and D7 sub modules ?
I prefer to be sure, cause VCP is about 300 euros !!!

thanks again

dArK5HaD0w
04-05-2020, 09:40 PM
As I mentioned in our private messages - kamold hepled source the file from an overseas member who was able to get the source file from a "donor" Superb.

My understanding is that coding the 4B module correctly will correct the slave modules, in this case the afs controllers.
This is also the case with the parameter file.

MinTze
07-05-2020, 03:12 PM
I’m having a problem with AFS when I’m trying to do the DLA coding. The worse part is my back-up was corrupted. I’m wondering anybody don’t mind to share the original coding of Passat B8? Thanks guys!

tolgahankazan
08-05-2020, 07:45 AM
Guys I'm new in this forum and i read all the posts. I have my15 b8 passat with a5 cam. Like the others i didnt get the DLA.

According to post i need to have 4b parameters to be coded with vcp and the vcds coding at all. Is it right ?
Could someone help me?

vaggelis4
12-05-2020, 03:18 PM
Hello, I’m trying to figure out what it going to be for my car.
Im having a Passat B8 MY2016 with LED High with normal AFS. So thus until now it won’t work as it should if I don’t upload the parameters, right?
I have in my hands obd11pro, Vcds and I’m waiting for a vcp (cracked) from China which comes with a dongle for zdc files.
There is a probability that the usb dongle won’t include the AFS MDF zdc file (I think) is there anyone that could provide it to me in order to upload it with the vcp? Or at least an .xml file for Odis e, because vcp originally cost around 300(!).
Your help is much appreciated!

55 Headlight Regulation
System description: AFS-ECU
Software number: 7P6907357C
Software version: 0110
Hardware number: 7P6907357B
Hardware version: H01
Serial number: --------------
ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 039202000F210200

kamold
12-05-2020, 03:22 PM
Vcp files can't be shared.
That's their secret sauce.
The zdc files are encrypted per cable the clone you are getting is out dated so won't have the file you need.
There are techniques for getting the odis XML file but you need official online access.

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vaggelis4
12-05-2020, 04:08 PM
So I need to buy the official Vcp cable or get to a dealer who won’t probably do the job.
But if I have access to an Odis cable with an official online access, how it’s going to work? Because the parameters is related with the vin of my car which it doesn’t factory fitted with DLA, is there any way of offline uploading the parameters?

kamold
14-05-2020, 04:17 PM
There is a way to do it contact me via PM and I can explain what you need to do.

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jgazengel
04-07-2020, 06:19 AM
Hi. Group.. A little question Vcp. Does the paramer set for led headlight afs dla of an arteon 4B module works for a B8 passât 4B 3Q0907338 version 0285 module? I don't find the passat zdc file in vcp??

Oxxomxxo
13-11-2021, 10:52 PM
You'll need the Passat parameter file, not Superb.
Unfortunately it's available in VCP as a sec file not XML so you can't apply with ODIS.
If you have odis online access it's possible to use a technique to obtain the parameter file.

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Would you mind sharing how to pull a parameter file from odis online? Thank you in advance.