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xtturbo
20-01-2008, 05:50 PM
Hey Guys,

Have just bought a White Polo GTI so of course i've been busily researching modifications! One thing I've wondered is howcome no one seems to mention ATPs GT28RS kit:

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-163&Category_Code=VVWTK

its considerably cheaper than other options and looks to be the simplest too!

Thoughts?

PoloGTi
20-01-2008, 08:13 PM
Might be due to a polo GTI with a Ko4 and a few mods struggles to get traction let alone a gt28rs.
Its not just the price of the turbo upgrade its upgrading everything eles suspension, brakes, drivetrain, LSD, FMIC, exhaust, intake.
This would all be needed to gain the most from the turbo.
Does this kit include softwear, injectors, FPR?
The price is cheap in US dollars and once you pay import duty and frieght would be getting up there in price.
The KO4 is a much simpler step not as many uprated componets required.
Plus there is strong support in Aus for companies like APR REVO and GIAC.
My thoughts right or wrong cheers Rob.

99gti
20-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Might be due to a polo GTI with a Ko4 and a few mods struggles to get traction let alone a gt28rs.
Its not just the price of the turbo upgrade its upgrading everything eles suspension, brakes, drivetrain, LSD, FMIC, exhaust, intake.
This would all be needed to gain the most from the turbo.
Does this kit include softwear, injectors, FPR?
The price is cheap in US dollars and once you pay import duty and frieght would be getting up there in price.
The KO4 is a much simpler step not as many uprated componets required.
Plus there is strong support in Aus for companies like APR REVO and GIAC.
My thoughts right or wrong cheers Rob.

I agree completly. K04 IMO represents a lot more bang for your buck.

xtturbo
20-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Might be due to a polo GTI with a Ko4 and a few mods struggles to get traction let alone a gt28rs.
Its not just the price of the turbo upgrade its upgrading everything eles suspension, brakes, drivetrain, LSD, FMIC, exhaust, intake.
This would all be needed to gain the most from the turbo.
Does this kit include softwear, injectors, FPR?
The price is cheap in US dollars and once you pay import duty and frieght would be getting up there in price.
The KO4 is a much simpler step not as many uprated componets required.
Plus there is strong support in Aus for companies like APR REVO and GIAC.
My thoughts right or wrong cheers Rob.

Yeah, I've been doing a lot of reading and the K04 is easily the simplest upgrade, but lots of us sites seem to pay it out as only adding 20-40hp headroom over the K03s. You can get a K04 pretty cheap from the us though :D

That said, what good is a GT2X, GT28RS etc if there is no software support?

Why arn't there any tuning shops that will do custom tunes like there are for Fords, Nissans etc?

PoloGTi
20-01-2008, 08:28 PM
There are a few APR does have a GT28RS tune and i am sure REVO and GIAC would have something too. But again you need to have all the support components in place.
Its big dollars no matter what you choose.
What do you want form your car?
Fast in a line, fast around a track?

xtturbo
20-01-2008, 08:29 PM
There are a few APR does have a GT28RS tune and i am sure REVO and GIAC would have something too. But again you need to have all the support components in place.
Its big dollars no matter what you choose.
What do you want form your car?
Fast in a line, fast around a track?

I'd imagine ARP's GT28RS kit is for there stage 3 setup, which uses a custom manifold, afm etc etc, so it would only be applicable to their kit.

Line. I love engines :D

Kai
20-01-2008, 08:32 PM
3071R kthx.

PoloGTi
20-01-2008, 08:33 PM
lol Well in that case The APR polo made 151kw ATW with the KO4 how much more are you after?

xtturbo
20-01-2008, 08:39 PM
lol Well in that case The APR polo made 151kw ATW with the KO4 how much more are you after?

Lol, I just get the feeling that the K04 will still feel a bit sedate :P I want the whole pushed back into my seat hard thing ;)

Probably not going to happen for a while though!

PoloGTi
20-01-2008, 08:42 PM
lol yeah i know what u mean is your polo chipped?
Do this first then u will quench your thirst for a few weeks for more power.
I hope some of the guys that have been lucky enough to have been in the APR polo for a ride can tell you what its like. Kai your polo is pretty quick at the mo what the feeling like when ur hard on the gass?

xtturbo
20-01-2008, 08:50 PM
lol yeah i know what u mean is your polo chipped?
Do this first then u will quench your thirst for a few weeks for more power.
I hope some of the guys that have been lucky enough to have been in the APR polo for a ride can tell you what its like. Kai your polo is pretty quick at the mo what the feeling like when ur hard on the gass?


Heheheh I haven't chipped it yet but I've pretty much decided on the APR tune based on the upgrade path avaliable. I wont be doing any hardware mods for a while as I figure I should keep it stock for a while at least :)

But the budget is there for when the time is right so :D

PoloGTi
20-01-2008, 08:54 PM
I think a dude in the UK is going down the gt25rs path at the mo have to wait and see.
Great choice of car tho :) is this ur first VW? What part of Aus are you from?

xtturbo
20-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I think a dude in the UK is going down the gt25rs path at the mo have to wait and see.
Great choice of car tho :) is this ur first VW? What part of Aus are you from?

Yup its my first VW. My previous car was a '05 Ford Falcon BA ute. I basically got sick of driving round such a large vehicle, and I was pretty disappointed by the level of refinement offered by the factory lpg engine (it ran a bit like a diesel and it stalled sometimes). I've wanted a performance car for a while and was looking at nissans or v8s but I didn't want an older car or a rediculous fuel bill (really, pushing a 1800kg car around with a big v8 is just wasteful).

When I came across the GTI I was instantly in love. Its such a beautiful shape, it has a lovely interior and the engine has so much potential... I mean its got 20 valves!!! :D Kinda wish it was a bit revier but perhaps once i've paid off the loan and got another daily driver i'll be able to do some serious power mods to it :)

I'm from Melb - the knox area.

Heh, from what i've seen this forum has got quite a good community going - its great that we've got a car that has so much genuine tuning potential. I've been on the ford forums a bit and its actually quite depressing... sponsors etc are pushing products that have absolutely no performance value and fanbois are furthering the myth that they make a difference.

For instance, several companies have made clone 'brake upgrade packages' that use inferior quality rotors/pads etc or even entirely different calipers painted the same colour as the performance varients... its heart breaking!

Oh well, I'm in happy VW land now where we can get 40kw just from a tune, and genuine brembo brake packages can be had for $2500 :D

DaveMack
20-01-2008, 11:07 PM
Mine breaks traction in second quite easily (and gets a bit 'squirrely' from about 50kph thru 80kph) ... & I don't even have the KO4 upgrade. :D

I think if you want that much more power ... rather than spend 10s of thousands of bux upgrading U'r Pogo ... why not just get an R32 & put twin turbos on it? :D

Dave

ralphk
21-01-2008, 12:35 AM
Lol, I just get the feeling that the K04 will still feel a bit sedate :P I want the whole pushed back into my seat hard thing ;)

Probably not going to happen for a while though!

I have the KO4/LSD/FMIC etc etc etc....plenty of "pushed back into my seat hard thing" , no more power required, unless you are after dyno numbers. My next most desirable mod I think would be a diff to the rear in an effort to get traction but I guess it would be cheaper to by an R32 and turbo that...hmmmm there is a thought.

Sharkie
21-01-2008, 07:21 AM
This might sound like heresy, but I'd rather then buy an A3 Quattro and mod it up. The 2.0T now has a lot of mods available and at the moment you can have a modded A3 (225kw) for about the same drive-away price as an R32.

Flaps
21-01-2008, 07:53 AM
The Disco Potato j:

Sleepy
21-01-2008, 08:18 AM
Thought i would chip in...I have a b5 Passat and well i upgraded to the k04 and i must say i was a bit dissapointed...so thats the reason why i have gone the way of the gt2871r but i guess the ko4 will have a bigger impact on the Polo due to size and weight???

Kai
28-01-2008, 09:44 PM
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-119&Category_Code=VVWTK

Will this fit ours? :?

jasn78
28-01-2008, 09:50 PM
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-119&Category_Code=VVWTK

Will this fit ours? :?

kai dont show me things like that:( lol

Kai
28-01-2008, 10:02 PM
Im tempted.

Have the money here.

I want to go faster. But i dont want to pay 10k for the apr kit.

DaveMack
29-01-2008, 01:07 AM
Reading the specs, Kai ... don't see why it shouldn't fit the Pogo. It did mention a new inlet manifold ... didn't it? The KO3 manifold wouldn't take it (I'm pretty sure).

Dave