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wandaria
19-01-2008, 11:04 PM
Folks I live in Queensland, anyone know a place in Queensland that supplies air bag rated bull bars to multivan comfortlines. I live in the country and animal strikes are a big problem.

thanks

Tim

jaimo
20-01-2008, 10:46 AM
Hi,
Try
QLD Bull-bars.
Rockhampton, QLD 4700
p: 1800 773093

As they have made great T4 bars in the past.
Jaimo.

BobD
20-01-2008, 01:12 PM
Wandaria,

How is the under floor oil cooler going on the gravel roads? I was driving on several gravel roads during the Christmas holidays and I noticed stones wedged in the fins and some bent fins where stones had hit but nothing that seems to matter.

I regularly drive at 100 to 120 on gravel so maybe the stones hit harder than for more cautious drivers but it (the cooler) does look very vulnerable.

Seano
21-01-2008, 08:22 AM
Wandaria........http://www.ettvehicles.com/index.htm, based in Sydney, build ambulances. Their T5 based ambulances often have a bullbar fitted...regrettably an over bumper arrangement....but what the hey, eh? I suggest you ask them where they get them from.

The oil (?) cooler was one of the first things I noticed under the T5.......and thought was.......'vulnerable'. It really needs a perforated bash plate...

pjbplumbing@bigpond.com
22-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Dude,
see Bocar's web site, at http://www.bocar.com.au/4wd/4WD_VOLKSWAGEN_MODELS/4WD_CARAVELLE.htm

Seano
23-01-2008, 09:12 AM
Dude,
see Bocar's web site, at http://www.bocar.com.au/4wd/4WD_VOLKSWAGEN_MODELS/4WD_CARAVELLE.htm

Agree that Bocar are a likely option for a T5 but that model bullbar is for a T4 (which Wandaria doesn't have).

A good bar nonetheless......a customised version (to reduce the size of the roo catching hole in the middle) of one adorns my own T4

wandaria
25-01-2008, 07:22 AM
I spoke with a company in Brisbane, technically speaking the t5 bullbar will fit the multivan, the only reason they don't is because, waite for it, there are parking sensors on the front of the car, which would be covered/removed if you put a bull bar on them, but naturally enough if you come up with another way to attach them or remove them altogether then the t5 bullbar ( a nice alloy one) will fit the multivan. At least that is what they told me.

MultiplexMan
15-02-2008, 02:58 PM
I spoke with a company in Brisbane, technically speaking the t5 bullbar will fit the multivan, the only reason they don't is because, waite for it, there are parking sensors on the front of the car, which would be covered/removed if you put a bull bar on them, but naturally enough if you come up with another way to attach them or remove them altogether then the t5 bullbar ( a nice alloy one) will fit the multivan. At least that is what they told me.

Which company did the T5 bull bar?

The only T5 bar I have seen is a nudge/A bar...

tapsy
06-07-2008, 01:40 PM
Which company did the T5 bull bar?

The only T5 bar I have seen is a nudge/A bar...

Yeah i'd like to know that too :-)):)

Tornado T5
06-07-2008, 09:00 PM
How about this one, not a full bull bar however better then most nudge bars.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/07/P5150145a-1.jpg

tapsy
06-07-2008, 10:28 PM
Nup, don't like that, it's a bit light on..

MultiplexMan
12-01-2011, 05:32 AM
Reviving an old thread :rolleyes:

A couple new bull bar options for the T5.

Formula Off Road - bumper replacement needs the plastic bumper panel trimmed in order to use the grille portion. They also do it in powder coated steel.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2011/01/2237-1.jpg

MultiplexMan
12-01-2011, 05:39 AM
Baker and Priem have been doing a tubular bull bar for some time.

I'm not sure how it would hold up to a roo strike at 110km/hr...

http://www.bakerandpriem.com.au/cart.php?target=image&action=detailed_image&id=62

MultiplexMan
12-01-2011, 05:48 AM
Tuff BullBars

http://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/media/SITE_19/media/images/product/enlarge/110743.jpg

Rebuild
12-01-2011, 12:57 PM
Tuff BullBars

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/

Yuk.

Where's the air horns and running lights?

Transporter
12-01-2011, 01:45 PM
The Formula Off Road one looks OK.

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Seano
13-01-2011, 09:02 AM
Baker and Priem have been doing a tubular bull bar for some time.

I'm not sure how it would hold up to a roo strike at 110km/hr...

Probably the same as any other properly made bull bar......it'll crumple into the front end.

I've never seen a bullbar survive a roo strike (steel or alloy) at highway speeds on any car, ute or SUV......except one.

Which was a handmade thing that was massively overbuilt and fitted to a LandCrusier ute - when it suffered a roo strike at around 100km/h, the bar didn't bend at all. What did bend was the chassis rails, one of which was shortened by 65mm and twisted about 10 degrees.

If that T5 with the Tuff bar hits a roo at highway speeds......it'll be thoroughly rooted. But it'll look wonderfully tuff doing it....<fail>

upeggs
05-02-2011, 11:03 AM
Folks I live in Queensland, anyone know a place in Queensland that supplies air bag rated bull bars to multivan comfortlines. I live in the country and animal strikes are a big problem.

thanks

Tim

Hi Tim
Bought a new T5 multivan,tried to have nudge bar and rear bar fitted but was unable due to parking sensors.Real pain as We also have animal strikes around here.
Richard.

Transporter
05-02-2011, 03:26 PM
Hi Tim
Bought a new T5 multivan,tried to have nudge bar and rear bar fitted but was unable due to parking sensors.Real pain as We also have animal strikes around here.
Richard.

Install parking cameras and disable parking sensors, that's what I would do. :)

flyingfridge
05-02-2011, 04:52 PM
Probably the same as any other properly made bull bar......it'll crumple into the front end.

I've never seen a bullbar survive a roo strike (steel or alloy) at highway speeds on any car, ute or SUV......except one.

Which was a handmade thing that was massively overbuilt and fitted to a LandCrusier ute - when it suffered a roo strike at around 100km/h, the bar didn't bend at all. What did bend was the chassis rails, one of which was shortened by 65mm and twisted about 10 degrees.

If that T5 with the Tuff bar hits a roo at highway speeds......it'll be thoroughly rooted. But it'll look wonderfully tuff doing it....<fail>

Which is why fitting any bull bar to a modern car is thoroughly pointless. With modern crash design anything of substance is going to make the whole front of the car crumple regardless, and anything small enough not to do damage will just deform the plastic front bar momentarily before it pops back to shape. I'm originally from the country in Western Victoria and have hit plenty of animals at high speed (no roos thankfully, have come close a couple of times though) - I recall one where I hit a hare in a Fiesta XR4 at a speed I can't repeat here, got him right on the front left fog light no damage at all, the bumper just flexed when he impacted.

If you want to ruin the look of your car and reduce the effectiveness of the cooling and parking sensors, go right ahead. Otherwise just leave it alone.

Transporter
05-02-2011, 06:33 PM
Probably the same as any other properly made bull bar......it'll crumple into the front end.

I've never seen a bullbar survive a roo strike (steel or alloy) at highway speeds on any car, ute or SUV......except one.

Which was a handmade thing that was massively overbuilt and fitted to a LandCrusier ute - when it suffered a roo strike at around 100km/h, the bar didn't bend at all. What did bend was the chassis rails, one of which was shortened by 65mm and twisted about 10 degrees.

If that T5 with the Tuff bar hits a roo at highway speeds......it'll be thoroughly rooted. But it'll look wonderfully tuff doing it....<fail>

I hit the roo at 80km/h in Subaru Lseries with the roobar and I didn't get stranded 100km from Wilpena pound Flinders ranges, suffered only minor damage to the bonnet and broken headlight.
Put it that way, any damage to the car when you hit something will be greater than $300 insurance excess, even with the roobar, but the roobar should save the radiator and you can continue to drive (it can save your life).

Seano
07-02-2011, 09:42 AM
....any damage to the car when you hit something will be greater than $300 insurance excess, even with the roobar, but the roobar should save the radiator and you can continue to drive (it can save your life).

Correct. That's all a good bar is supposed to do. To expect anything better is........unreasonable.

Ivo
07-02-2011, 03:49 PM
I saw this one on ebay. Probably the best looking one so far.

Alloy Bullbar VW Transporter T5 (eBay item 170597544109 end time 10-Feb-11 13:46:33 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Alloy-Bullbar-VW-Transporter-T5-/170597544109?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b867f0ad)

Seano
08-02-2011, 07:39 AM
I saw this one on ebay. Probably the best looking one so far.

Alloy Bullbar VW Transporter T5 (eBay item 170597544109 end time 10-Feb-11 13:46:33 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Alloy-Bullbar-VW-Transporter-T5-/170597544109?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b867f0ad)


That's the ECB bar work that goes on the NSW ambulances - looks like they are different between the T5.1 and the T5.2
ECB Volskwagen Transporter Bullbars Nudge Bars Frontal Protection Equipment (http://www.ecb.com.au/model/transporter.htm)

http://www.ecb.com.au/model/Transporter/BV03SYB_Etch.jpg
This is for the 5.2

http://www.ecb.com.au/model/Transporter/BV02SYZ_PURPLE%20(Custom).jpg
This is the 5.1

and there's also a nudge bar for both...

MultiplexMan
08-02-2011, 10:56 AM
@ Seano - OK I'll bite. I cannot spot the difference between the models except for the "white" blinkers. Perhaps the mounting/fixing kit?

TRIVETT
08-02-2011, 10:38 PM
Folks I live in Queensland, anyone know a place in Queensland that supplies air bag rated bull bars to multivan comfortlines. I live in the country and animal strikes are a big problem.

thanks

Tim
As someone who sold 4wds from Vic to NSW to Nth Qld regularly for last 25 plus years & drove up once a week & flew home from Cairns weekly, before moving from rural to city 4 years ago due to continuos droughts affecting sales in rural areas , some nights I counted over 300 roos between Goondiwindi to Banana to Rockhampton etc & regardless of what all us city dwellers think as we sleep whilst you drive , I believe you rural people need to give yourself best chance of no drama & there is not a VW radiator available on every corner have no doubt & re roadside service in those areas forget it, most who live in those areas believe all good looking alloy bars are good enough only for hanging pretty lights off, forget the looks & buy what you need, best peace of mind is get as good as you can & HOPE & in my personal opinion bars built in those areas are made to suit the area & its not the 300 we see tonight that cause the drama , it is the one we don,t see that causes the grief !

Seano
10-02-2011, 12:23 PM
@ Seano - OK I'll bite. I cannot spot the difference between the models except for the "white" blinkers. Perhaps the mounting/fixing kit?

Almost certainly the mounting kit. These bars are mounted over the original vehicle bumper. Given the slight differences between the two models (mid life refresh and all that bollocks) then it'd be related to where to mounting points are on each model.

Stupid really. Over bumper bars like this add a few tens of kgs to the front end and can potentially upset things. If they got rid of the OE bumper then the weight penalty would be minor.....but that'd make the bar expensive.

pjondeck
11-02-2011, 07:16 AM
Hi, East Coast Bullbars, check out ECB Volskwagen Transporter Bullbars Nudge Bars Frontal Protection Equipment (http://www.ecb.com.au/model/transporter.htm)
tel.0738975700, make a nice 76mm alloy bar for Transporter 01/10 onwards airbag and ADR compliant.
I have ordered a nudge bar (just to carry lights and antenna) for my one day old T5 comfortline. I too have run into the problem of the front sensors. The people at Trivett inform me that they don't think they can be messed with without causing a permanent alarm situation.
Does anyone have any info regarding this before I get hit with a restocking fee!
ta

mikinoz
11-02-2011, 07:25 AM
@ Seano - OK I'll bite. I cannot spot the difference between the models except for the "white" blinkers. Perhaps the mounting/fixing kit?

Take a look at the inside lower corners of the headlights and there is a chamfer on one but not the other.

mikinoz
11-02-2011, 07:27 AM
Hi, East Coast Bullbars, check out ECB Volskwagen Transporter Bullbars Nudge Bars Frontal Protection Equipment (http://www.ecb.com.au/model/transporter.htm)
tel.0738975700, make a nice 76mm alloy bar for Transporter 01/10 onwards airbag and ADR complidant.
I have ordered a nudge bar (just to carry lights and antenna) for my one day old T5 comfortline. I too have run into the problem of the front sensors. The people at Trivett inform me that they don't think they can be messed with without causing a permanent alarm situation.
Does anyone have any info regarding this before I get hit with a restocking fee!
ta

I am fairly certain that the sensors can be disabled via VAGCOM on the front only. Don't quote me on that, but I know it can be done on other models. It may be that the sensors need to be disabled entirely.

pjondeck
11-02-2011, 03:43 PM
Hi all
Don't know what happenned to my post this morning but will try again.
Have a look at ECB Volskwagen Transporter Bullbars Nudge Bars Frontal Protection Equipment (http://www.ecb.com.au/model/transporter.htm) These bars are ADR and Airbag compliant.
I ordered a nudge bar but have asked the dealer to hold off 'til I resolve what happens about the parking sensors.
One VW specialist I spoke to thinks that the warning I had from the dealer that it would cause a permanent alarm if I disconnected two of the front sensors may be true but only to the extent that when he plugs the diagnostic system into the car it tells him that there is a malfunction. It may not cause too much of a problem day to day.
Does anyone have any more on that please?
cheers

pjondeck
11-02-2011, 08:46 PM
Thanks Mikinoz, excuse my ignorance but can you enlighten me on what means VAGCOM please?
Many thanks for your response.

mikinoz
11-02-2011, 08:48 PM
VAGCOM is the interface between the ECU and a programming device, like a laptop.

Details on this are available from here. Ross-Tech: Home (http://www.ross-tech.com/)

pjondeck
12-02-2011, 08:02 AM
Hi again, I just tried the "JustAnswer" option. Out of curiosity as much as anything I think.
I simply asked if the two centre detectors could be removed to facilitate a nudge bar.
The response was:
"You cannot disable the two centre sensors.
I would fit a different type of system that uses radio wave rather than ultrasonics."

I am expected to pay $22 for that! I expect I can do a lot better than that on VWwatercooled! The bloke obviously has no idea of the implications.
cheers

Bug_racer
18-09-2012, 09:04 PM
So Ive had a customer ask me about a full wrap around bullbar for a facelift T5 . Ive asked around and no-one seems to sell them . I tried a few links posted on here and they dont work . Anyone have any idea who makes them or is going to release them soon ?

batty
16-10-2012, 09:25 PM
Try East Coast bull bars its not a bumper replacment but looks ok.

MultiplexMan
22-10-2012, 03:39 PM
I use a Formula Offroad bull bar Type 51 - full bumper bar replacement unit. It is well made and fits well. I optioned two cutouts for Hella DRLs.

Steel Bullbars - Formula Offroad - Steel Bullbars - Sydney (http://www.formulaoffroad.com.au/bullbars.html)

No other option I could find locally...

Hugh4702
29-06-2015, 05:49 AM
Has anyone had any recent luck fitting a bull bar to the new Multivan?
Have tried all that have been listed here except Qld Bullbars and they all say that they can do a Transporter but not a Multivan but a salesman in Brisbane assures me that a bullbar manufacturer in Brisbane makes a bumper replacement bar that still allows the use of the sensors(refitted in the bar)and he would email through pictures (probably three weeks ago now).

b_star
09-06-2016, 02:21 PM
Just going to bump this up to see if anyone knows anything new about Bullbars for Multivans. Has anyone fitted one?
The only one I can see is from QLD Bullbars.
Volkswagen Caravelle - QLD Bullbars (http://qldbullbars.com.au/portfolio/volkswagen-caravelle/)

dunc4wd
26-06-2016, 03:54 PM
the one above in the link is the one i have fitted to mine, it is as fitted to the T5 ambulances. Airbag compliant

Bangers
15-06-2019, 06:56 PM
Could you tell me we’re you bought this bull bar from or did you get it made

Bangers
15-06-2019, 07:40 PM
How about this one, not a full bull bar however better then most nudge bars.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2008/07/P5150145a-1.jpg

Hi I was hoping you could tell me we’re you purchased your bull bar from

Ades
18-03-2020, 12:07 PM
I have a T5 Multivan (2006) and because I live in a regional town, people seem to be unable to park on the street without any regard for other road users, so many times now I have found another car almost butted up to my car, making it almost impossible to get out.
My main worry is some yokel reversing into my front bumper.
I have a modified ARB nudge bar awaiting fitting for some time now and am considering fitting it, with mounting modification and modified fwd parking sensor mounting.
looking at the mounting looks to be an issue, the main area to mount the bar is from under the van from the engine/gearbox subframe, it has a few holes under it (drain holes i can gather). The fabricator in me says to drill those holes right through the subframe and mount the nudgebar from underneath from purpose made mounts, the engineer in me says this could cause a weak point in the structure.
other wise the other way would be to drill across the frame and make a mount adapter to mount from the side of the subframe.

I think the majority of transporter mountings seem to be from the frame rails at the front from what I can interpret in the pictures online.

thoughts

Ades

Kombi
18-03-2020, 12:35 PM
Hi Ades, I have also done a fair bit of research on the internet for Multivan nudge bar options, I recall as you say, some bars going all the way underneath the front bumper to mount underneath the van somewhere, no sure where, some only mount via plates through the front, I reckon mounting from underneath and also two plates through to the front plate is probably the sturdiest option.

Ades
20-03-2020, 06:25 PM
Hey kombi,

thanks for the feedback, yes i forgot to mention about the mounts from the front of the frame rails. noting the weight of the nudge bar I think mid support would be called for and reduce the stress on the subframe mount.

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/03/drawingresized-1.jpg

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/03/subframeresized-1.jpg

Kombi
20-03-2020, 09:41 PM
Maybe a retro T2 bar will look cool ...

Kombi
21-03-2020, 02:06 PM
Hi Ades, I’ve posted photos in the past but now I can’t, tips please

Kombi
21-03-2020, 02:43 PM
48072

T1on T5

Kombi
21-03-2020, 02:58 PM
48073

Hiace bar could possibly be modified for retro look

Kombi
21-03-2020, 03:09 PM
48074

Queensland Bullbars Nudgebar

Kombi
21-03-2020, 03:45 PM
48075
East Coast Bullbars

Kombi
21-03-2020, 03:54 PM
Ades, notice neither these two nudgebar goes under bumper, QB mounted through black plastic air vent and ECB mounted through bottom part of bumper.

Ades
29-03-2020, 08:00 PM
Thanks Kombi, a nice selection of bars there, the upper mount would definitely be a consideration to take the weight of the bar as it is bloody heavy, noting its a multivan the mounting from the front the bar might be a little different from the transporter.

the Hiace bar mounts on two big studs through the bumper and may not be practical for the VW Van, although it is a nice looking factory nudge bar that mounts spot lights quite well

this one is a widened ARB built Honda CRV nudge bar that was heading towards my old T4 transporter.

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/03/imagepng-1.jpg